Changes in QT's
Hello Tbbeta, I am trying to get ny old QT back in place and I am sure that I had one with the handle of this would then expand out to ... entering in theis handle and then pressing Ctrl + space brings up the list of QT and not the QT it's self. Has this behaviour changed? -- Best regards, David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Changes in QT's
[Reply to: »David Elliott« · 2008-03-04 · 09:57 h (CET)] Moin, David! [QT handles with special characters] Has this behaviour changed? Seems to be related to the problem discussed in the thread starting with this message ([The Bat! 4.0.14] Problem with Quick Template): mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe you support this wish, too: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6794 Cheers! VA - -- QA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] — [2008-03-04] Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! Using The Bat! 4.0.14.9 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 2. »I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.« — Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001) Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A draft folder
Dear David_E, @4-Mar-2008, 03:54 David Elliott [DE] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: DE I would like to open a discussion for the need for a draft folder. DE Views ? Create a new folder. Name it Draft. Now drag any parked draft / unfinished message from the outbox to the Draft folder. Enjoy! -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v4.0.14.9 on Windows Vista 6.0.6000 ' pgpAku6bIJRvD.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A draft folder
Hello David, I would like to open a discussion for the need for a draft folder. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
AV when closing 4.00.14.09
Had to kill TB with TaskManager. Details: Date: 04 Mar 2008 08:19:45 Address: 00BA84E0 ClassName: EAccessViolation Message: Access violation at address 00BA84E0 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 03D8 IsOSException: 1 Modules: 0040 20080228212837 C:\Program Files\The Bat\thebat.exe Stack: 00BA84E0 [0040] 004744DF [0040] 0047452C [0040] 00ADCC0A [0040] 0043F950 [0040] 0043F960 [0040] 00B5E76E [0040] 00A1ABB7 [0040] 00A1ACAC [0040] 00531809 [0040] 005306FA [0040] 00531731 [0040] 005306FA [0040] 00530700 [0040] 0054E8A7 [0040] 00552AEE [0040] 00489F4D [0040] 0052D6E1 [0040] 005520C0 [0040] 00467B50 [0040] 00552BEB [0040] 0052F70E [0040] 0055468D [0040] 005307D1 [0040] 00A1BB5A [0040] 0054E8A7 [0040] 00489F4D [0040] 00552AEE [0040] 0052D6E1 [0040] 005520C0 [0040] 005520D5 [0040] 005520C0 [0040] 00467B50 [0040] 00552BEB [0040] 0052F70E [0040] 0054EEF1 [0040] 005303C8 [0040] 0054E8A7 [0040] 00489F4D [0040] 0047C7FC [0040] 00552AEE [0040] 0052D6E1 [0040] 005520C0 [0040] 00467B50 [0040] 0054978A [0040] 00535969 [0040] 005359A2 [0040] 00535BFA [0040] 00C2B0DB [0040] 00C2EE7D [0040] 00C33CD0 [0040] Using The Bat! v3.99.27.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 -- What is life choices about? — Bush, speaking to student athletes. Source: Federal Document Clearing House, President Welcomes NCAA Champs, Feb. 24, 2003 Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: A draft folder
Hello MAU, Tuesday, March 4, 2008, 9:53:00 AM, you wrote: I would like to open a discussion for the need for a draft folder. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 :) You will find me adding my 2 penny worth on 11 Dec 2005 at 12:36 -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A draft folder
Hello David, I would like to open a discussion for the need for a draft folder. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 :) You will find me adding my 2 penny worth on 11 Dec 2005 at 12:36 Then you will know it is a completely lost battle :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Strange Address book behavior when copying and pasting
I don't know if this has been reported When I controlC copy from the address book and paste into a group, the original entry disappears. Same if I copy in one group and paste into others. (main address book or groups = same behavior) Confirm anyone? -- Rick Republicans - OUT! v4.0.14.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange Address book behavior when copying and pasting
3/4/2008 2:37 PM Hi Rick, On 3/4/2008 Rick Grunwald wrote: RG When I controlC copy from the address book and paste into a group, RG the original entry disappears. Same if I copy in one group and paste RG into others. (main address book or groups = same behavior) Uncheck the Group properties item named Hide items if not explicitly selected - -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.99.4 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A draft folder
Hello David, I would like to open a discussion for the need for a draft folder. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 :) You will find me adding my 2 penny worth on 11 Dec 2005 at 12:36 Then you will know it is a completely lost battle :) But your supporters are growing! -- Rick The American Republican Party: Supporting Big Business - serfdom for the people v4.0.14.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange Address book behavior when copying and pasting
3/4/2008 2:37 PM Hi Rick, On 3/4/2008 Rick Grunwald wrote: RG When I controlC copy from the address book and paste into a group, RG the original entry disappears. Same if I copy in one group and paste RG into others. (main address book or groups = same behavior) Uncheck the Group properties item named Hide items if not explicitly selected They were all unchecked and it also happens in the address book itself -- Rick Are we in the Post-Bush era yet? v4.0.14.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[The Bat! 4.0.14.9] Cannot send message to Addressbook Group
Moin, folks! After a long time I wanted to send a message to all members of one of my addressbook groups: Rightclick in To: field - Context menu - Group - All items In the To: field Addressbook Group list appears as expected, but when I hit the Send button or shortcut, the following error popped up: --- Edit Mail Message - Addressbook Group list --- Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED], subject Subject Line, is not properly addressed --- OK --- Any confirmations? Cheers! VA - -- QA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] — [2008-03-04] Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! Using The Bat! 4.0.14.9 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 2. »Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.« Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »Last Chance to See« Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: A draft folder
Hello Marck, Tuesday, March 4, 2008, 9:42:40 AM, you wrote: Dear David_E, @4-Mar-2008, 03:54 David Elliott [DE] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: DE I would like to open a discussion for the need for a draft folder. DE Views ? Create a new folder. Name it Draft. Now drag any parked draft / unfinished message from the outbox to the Draft folder. Enjoy! -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A draft folder
Dear David_E, Create a new folder. Name it Draft. Now drag any parked draft / unfinished message from the outbox to the Draft folder. Enjoy! :)):)):)):)):)):)):)) -- Rick If one candidate’s trying to scare you, and the other one’s trying to get you to think; if one candidate’s appealing to your fears, and the other one’s appealing to your hopes; you better vote for the person who wants you to think and hope. - Bill Clinton, 2004 v4.0.14.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: A draft folder
Hello Marck, Tuesday, March 4, 2008, 9:42:40 AM, you wrote: @4-Mar-2008, 03:54 David Elliott [DE] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: DE I would like to open a discussion for the need for a draft folder. DE Views ? Create a new folder. Name it Draft. Now drag any parked draft / unfinished message from the outbox to the Draft folder. Enjoy! ¡ Marck ! A sensible suggestion please. 1) Extra and unnecessary effort to do this. 2) To edit it I need to move it back to the Outbox. 3) Extra and unnecessary effort to undo this. P.S. Sorry for the extra email I was testing this suggestion and it got sent by mistake. :) -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A draft folder
Dear David_E, @4-Mar-2008, 17:56 David Elliott [DE] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: ... snip DE I would like to open a discussion for the need for a draft folder. DE Views ? Create a new folder. Name it Draft. ... snip DE A sensible suggestion please. It was one. DE 1) Extra and unnecessary effort to do this. DE 2) To edit it I need to move it back to the Outbox. DE 3) Extra and unnecessary effort to undo this. ... snip The fact remains it is a minority request for which there is already sufficient functionality implemented in the software. The Parked in outbox method works superbly and the majority do NOT want to see TB bloated with redundant features to please the minority. The fact remains, parking remains the method used in *this* client for keeping drafts and postponed sends alike. A better (more palatable?) suggestion would be for you to define a colour group to differentiate the two and assign drafts a different colour to one or the other to make them stand out in the outbox. I suggest that last one is actually a far better solution than a drafts folder anyway. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v4.0.14.9 on Windows Vista 6.0.6000 ' pgpilZy0kmtiS.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Using internal RTF viewer causes immediate crash
Hello, when You open message with RTF attachment and select this file in tab, TB crashes immediatelly. reported in https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6889, message with RTF attachment added to report. -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.14.9 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: A draft folder
Hello All, Tuesday, March 4, 2008, 5:47:55 PM, you wrote: Hello MAU, Tuesday, March 4, 2008, 9:53:00 AM, you wrote: I would like to open a discussion for the need for a draft folder. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 :) You will find me adding my 2 penny worth on 11 Dec 2005 at 12:36 This is what I was writing back then. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 8 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- DE If a message is in the outbox it is ready to be sent. It might be DE parked because you do not want to send it now. DE If a message is draft folder it is there because it is not finished DE with. DE Both are very different trying to combine it with 'parked' messages in DE the outbox proves that you have not thought the different statuses that DE a message can go [through]. DE I have asked for a draft folder since I started using the bat in beta DE (about ver 1.3 I think) I have not said anything recently about it DE because it has always fallen on deaf ears. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 8 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A draft folder
Greetings, I would like to open a discussion for the need for a draft folder. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 :) You will find me adding my 2 penny worth on 11 Dec 2005 at 12:36 Then you will know it is a completely lost battle :) Well said. That discussion has been around for years.g A parked message in the outbox is transparent to sending of queued mail. I'm not sure exactly why, but the concept of a draft folder falls on deaf ears at RIT Labs. Old habits are hard to break. I have *never* had a parked message get sent until I was ready (or goofed and ctrl-enter'ed the message accidentally). -- Neal Using TheBat! v4.0.14.5 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 AntispamSniper 2.7.1.7 OTFE enabled Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using internal RTF viewer causes immediate crash
Hello, when You open message with RTF attachment and select this file in tab, TB crashes immediatelly. reported inhttps://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6889, message with RTF attachment added to report. -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Yes, a horrible bug, about the worst I encountered in the history of The Bat! Nobody noticed before? Should be corrected within 24 hours paleeeze - Max... Franz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.14.9 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using internal RTF viewer causes immediate crash
Hello all, Wednesday, March 5, 2008, Franz Schöler wrote: Yes, a horrible bug, about the worst I encountered in the history of The Bat! Nobody noticed before? this is betatesting, every tester must accept this. As I have checked this problem, it was introduced in current betatest, 4.0.14 final is working OK. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.14.9 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.7 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Forward indicator
I am not sure when this was broken. I have looked at 4.00.14.09 and 3.99.x. Select multiple messages and forward them as separate messages to an address (Address all messages to the address(es) below). The indicator does not display on the original message icons. If I forward the messages individually, I see the indicator. Has this worked before? I just tried forwarding several messages in this manner and got an individual av for each one -- Rick Republican Tax Cuts for the wealthy Look where it has got us so far! Lets do it some more! v4.0.14.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A draft folder
On Tuesday, March 4, 2008, 3:05:23 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: The fact remains it is a minority request for which there is already sufficient functionality implemented in the software. The Parked in outbox method works superbly and the majority do NOT want to see TB bloated with redundant features to please the minority. That is what they said about an HTML viewer, an HTML editor, etc. Of course some of the reason that a minority of users are IMAP users is because of foot dragging. Certainly the minority need the bloat related to dealing with PGP. There may be good reasons/excuses, but this isn't one of them. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.14.9 on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A draft folder
Dear Dwight, @4-Mar-2008, 18:57 -0600 (05-Mar 00:57 here) Dwight A Corrin [DC] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: ... snip The Parked in outbox method works superbly ... ... snip DC That is what they said about an HTML viewer, an HTML editor, etc. That existing HTML support worked well? Erm ... no that's not what was said. But it *is* what I'm saying about the handling of drafts in TB. ... snip DC Certainly the minority need the bloat related to dealing with PGP. PGP bloat would only have been bloat had it been added later. It was part of the *original* TB design and implementation - pre version 1. If you are going to take the route of calling innate functionality bloat then your argument becomes fundamentally flawed. DC There may be good reasons/excuses, but this isn't one of them. Like with like is the best way to compare. You've managed to not do that by only focusing on the last sentence of my post (which maybe I shouldn't even have bothered to say) and not the meaning. I think that the above quote from my post - the meat of what I was actually saying - *is* very far from what was said about HTML support. Yes the no bloat here is always a poor excuse when a feature is entirely lacking or the way of getting the functionality is convoluted. But my point was not about minority requests but about requests for functionality that already exists and works well. I accept that you (and others) like the idea of having a separate drafts folder. A folder you can edit messages in and they would never be sent. I personally don't think this idea offers any *new* functionality. I like keeping my drafts in the outbox, neatly parked, all in one place. Colour coding works well for differentiation if needed. if Stef or Max want to add a folder in which you could edit messages without them being sent ... up to them really. shrug What *could* be useful, and would make my initial suggestion of a roll your own drafts folder workable (I accept that it won't actually work as stands) would be making the Parked flag sticky across folders, so that messages can be moved in and out of the outbox without losing their parked status. That could help. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v4.0.14.9 on Windows Vista 6.0.6000 ' pgpBqMKQjMYSd.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A draft folder
Hey Marck and the group, snip What *could* be useful, and would make my initial suggestion of a roll your own drafts folder workable (I accept that it won't actually work as stands) would be making the Parked flag sticky across folders, so that messages can be moved in and out of the outbox without losing their parked status. That could help. I believe Thunderbird offers the option during setup to use one set of local folders as a catch-all for all accounts, or stay with a folder group for each account. It's not *our* precedent, but one all the same. I guess we all have out little pet peeves with TB - mine being a single SMTP for all accounts (in addition to the standard behavior let's not go OT on this). -- Neal Using TheBat! v4.0.14.5 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 AntispamSniper 2.7.1.7 OTFE enabled Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
