4.1.11.19
The Bat! 4.1.11.19 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb49.rar What's new in 4.1.11.19 since 4.1.11.18: [-] Dates were formatted using the language specified Windows's locale, regardless the language of The Bat! interface [-] (#0007460) it wasn't possible to use viewer profiles for printing [-] Work in progress on the postponed delivery dialog Current beta is 4.1.11.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.1.11.19
The Bat! 4.1.11.19 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb49.rar What's new in 4.1.11.19 since 4.1.11.18: [-] Dates were formatted using the language specified Windows's locale, regardless the language of The Bat! interface [-] (#0007460) it wasn't possible to use viewer profiles for printing [-] Work in progress on the postponed delivery dialog Up and Running I like the new ability to create your own defaults for postponed sending -- Rick Some people come into our lives and quickly go. Some stay for awhile and leave footprints on our hearts. And we are never, ever the same. - Unknown v4.1.11.19 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.11.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.1.11.19
Hi Maxim, Attachment icons are still missing if there is more than 1 attachment with an e-mail :-(( Steve Harris Current beta is 4.1.11.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.1.11.19
Confirmed Jerry -- Ethan J. Mings Principal, The Desk Consulting Group Inc., Oakville, Ontario, Canada. e-mail: je...@thedesk.ca Web: http://www.thedesk.ca Phone: 905-825-9938 or 1-877-763-7776 -Original Message- From: Steve Harris st...@croftmedia.com Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 19:25:55 To: Maxim Masiutintbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com Subject: Re: 4.1.11.19 Hi Maxim, Attachment icons are still missing if there is more than 1 attachment with an e-mail :-(( Steve Harris Current beta is 4.1.11.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current beta is 4.1.11.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.1.11.19
On Fri, 1 May 2009, at 20:55:56 [GMT +0300] (which was 19:55 where I
live) Maxim Masiutin wrote:
The Bat! 4.1.11.19 is available at
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb49.rar
What's new in 4.1.11.19 since 4.1.11.18:
[-] Dates were formatted using the language specified Windows's
locale, regardless the language of The Bat! interface
[-] (#0007460) it wasn't possible to use viewer profiles for printing
[-] Work in progress on the postponed delivery dialog
Up and running, so far so good ;-)
--
Met vriendelijke groet,
Henk M. de Bruijn
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The Bat! Natural Email System 4.1.11.19 on Microsoft® Windows Vista™
Home Premium Versie 6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Build 6001 64 bit
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.33GHz, 2333 MHz,4 core('s),4 logic
processors
AntispamSniper for The Bat! Pro 3.2.0.6
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Current beta is 4.1.11.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
S/MIME with 4.1.11.19
Hi Maxim, on Fri, 1 May 2009 20:55:56 +0300GMT (01.05.2009, 19:55 +0200GMT here), you wrote: MM The Bat! 4.1.11.19 is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb49.rar I still cannot use my new S/MIME certs. (See: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7573) For me that is far more important than any attachment icons or if it is better to speak of postponed or delayed messages. Please take care of S/MIME, so that TB! can handle it well again. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v4.1.11.19 :beta: on WinXP, SP3, 5, 1, build 2600 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, several news groups via MyGate OTFE disabled AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 1024 MB RAM Current beta is 4.1.11.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.1.11.19
Hello Maxim, [-] Work in progress on the postponed delivery dialog Please have a look at the attached screen shot: 1. These arrows don't work as expected: The arrows increase or decrease the selected element (hour or minute) by exactly one step. Afterwards the user has to activate hour or minute again before it can be changed again by one step. [The other time-change-element in More-section works correctly.] 2. Please add a p to Temlate. -- Best regards, mse Using The Bat! v4.1.11.19 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 attachment: Postponed Delivery_1.png Current beta is 4.1.11.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.1.11.19
[Reply to: »Maxim Masiutin« · 2009-05-01 · 19:55 h (CET)] Moin, Maxim! The Bat! 4.1.11.19 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb49.rar What's new in 4.1.11.19 since 4.1.11.18: [-] Dates were formatted using the language specified Windows's locale, regardless the language of The Bat! interface Confirmed. [-] (#0007460) it wasn't possible to use viewer profiles for printing Not fixed. – For printing the »Default« viewer profile is used, although a print specific profile was selected in print setup. [-] Work in progress on the postponed delivery dialog Arrows of the Time box are still not working. See mid:1348910022.20090427230...@ahrendt.net And still the rhetorical question: »Why make matters simple when they could be complicated?« … AFAIK it is common use that checkboxes are for *multiple-choice* (e.g. A *and* B) and radio buttons for unique selections (A *or* B). – Do not mix this up, please. Different dialog titles depending on a change of checkboxes are still more confusing than my draft: mid:566587429.20090429112...@ahrendt.net Just for clarification: I do not want a 100% acceptance of my draft – that’s why I called it draft ;-) –, but in my opinion your solution is still *suboptimal*. Cheers! VA - -- Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! QA mailto:va%20%3...@ahrendt.net%3e?subject=[tbb]%20 Using /\^o^/\! 4.1.11.19 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 3. »I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.« – Douglas Adams (* March 11, 1952; † May 11, 2001) Current beta is 4.1.11.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat and Windows 7 RC
Hello Scott, Sunday, April 26, 2009, 13:01:37, you wrote: Well something needs to be done. Can Ritlabs confirmed they have looked into this issue and it cannot be fixed? No, we didn't look to this issue yet. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Ritlabs SRL http://www.ritlabs.com/ Current beta is 4.1.11.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Postponed Sending dialogue
Hello Mse, Sunday, April 26, 2009, 13:38:12, you wrote: 1. Another typo is in Temlate macro. The p is missing. Thank you, we have just fixed it, but the last beta came out before this. 2. What exactly is the macro for a message delay? The user interface here says '%DELAY=...' in QT it is '%POSTPONE=...'. It should be consistent. Yes, thank you. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Ritlabs SRL http://www.ritlabs.com/ Current beta is 4.1.11.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language file, should be fixed ASAP
Hello Vili, Thursday, April 30, 2009, 22:42:38, you wrote: If a user upgrades TB or Voyager, TB replaces the thebat.lng/voyager.lng file. Should not or it should ask if the user wants it. The reason is that we have our own English/Hungarian lng file (600 kB) and it is always overwritten by the huge lng file that comes with TB, so users lose their language settings in TB. According to Windows Installer File Versioning Rules http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa368599(VS.85).aspx Versioned Files Win — A versioned file gets installed over a nonversioned file. thebat.lng which comes in the MSI have booth a file version and a digital signature. You can click right mouse button in Windows Explorer on this file to see the file version. To add a version to thebat.lng file, just create a resource-only dll file and append the lng file to this dll: copy /b your_version.dll + source\thebat.lng destination\thebat.lng I have attached the sample resource dll and rc file to illustrate the point. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Ritlabs SRL http://www.ritlabs.com/ VersionInfo.rar Description: Binary data Current beta is 4.1.11.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can I have confirmation the attachment icons still need fixing?
Hello Steve, Sunday, April 26, 2009, 17:07:05, you wrote: Could you just confirm there is indeed still a problem with the attachment icons disappearing if there is more than one attachment? Why do you think that it is a problem? We've made the graphic shown only in case that there is exactly one file attached. In case of multiple files, we are just showing the number, to save horizontal space. When the graphics comes left or right to digits, it looks redundant and ugly, especially when there is a column when each item have multiple attachments. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Ritlabs SRL http://www.ritlabs.com/ attachment: attachments.png Current beta is 4.1.11.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
A small aggravating annoyance.
For as long as I can remember, whenever a final alert box pops up, like the one after compressing a folder for example, the cursor moves to a position just a pixel or two too high to allow clicking without needing to move the mouse. This is, as the subject line says a small but aggravating annoyance. Can anything be done about this? Thanks. -- Best regards, John mailto:jwsher...@gmail.com The Bat!: 4.1.11.12 Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 4.1.11.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can I have confirmation the attachment icons still need fixing?
Hello all, Saturday, May 2, 2009, Maxim Masiutin wrote: Could you just confirm there is indeed still a problem with the attachment icons disappearing if there is more than one attachment? Why do you think that it is a problem? We've made the graphic shown only in case that there is exactly one file attached. In case of multiple files, we are just showing the number, to save horizontal space. When the graphics comes left or right to digits, it looks redundant and ugly, especially when there is a column when each item have multiple attachments. as many people confirmed including me, in many latest builds numbers are not displayed including build 4.1.11.19. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.1.11.19 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.0.6 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 4.1.11.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.1.11.19
Hello all, Friday, May 1, 2009, Maxim Masiutin wrote: [-] Work in progress on the postponed delivery dialog still same issues reported to 4.1.11.17: 1) predefined next day has macro definition %DELAY=8:00, it means today, not tomorrow! it must be %DELAY=8:00 1d or did You fixed this and it will not be changed in already configurations? 2) when I try to delete entry in Account properties, following dialog appears: --- The Bat! --- Could not execute the command line! --- Ano Ne --- 3) it is possible to create entry with empty description and with no setting 4) Button Help still do not work 5) Delay icon in editor's status bar and in Account properties are is still constricted -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.1.11.19 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.0.6 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 4.1.11.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can I have confirmation the attachment icons still need fixing?
On Friday, May 1, 2009, 6:15:10 PM, Maxim Masiutin wrote: Why do you think that it is a problem? We've made the graphic shown only in case that there is exactly one file attached. In case of multiple files, we are just showing the number, to save horizontal space. When the graphics comes left or right to digits, it looks redundant and ugly, especially when there is a column when each item have multiple attachments. Here it is a problem because there is no indication that there is an attachment. no graphic and no number -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.1.11.19 on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 3) Current beta is 4.1.11.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[U+R] Re: 4.1.11.19 + Results of Newinstall / Backup + Restore
Freitag, 1. Mai 2009 at 19:55, Maxim Masiutin wrote: The Bat! 4.1.11.19 is available up + running, after System new install. Now running Debian Linux with XP in VirtualBox. After Backup and Restore all my Common Quick-Templates are gone. I am very glad, that the Common Filters are all here again. My Virtual Subfolder of Common Folders do not refresh with the Filter Conditions, i have to refresh manually. Settings for Headers displayed in Messagelist are not backuped and restored. There is no Hint which gives a warning about installed Plugins in Backup System to the Restore in new System. Changes in the Symbol Bars are not in backup. Now i will go to sleep and restore my Quick Templates tomorrow... Please ignore the Signature :-( -- With kind Regards Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg Schnellvorlage tbver konnte nicht gefunden werden Schnellvorlage winversion konnte nicht gefunden werden Schnellvorlage pcinfo konnte nicht gefunden werden Schnellvorlage popinfo konnte nicht gefunden werden Current beta is 4.1.11.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Postponed Sending dialogue
Hello Netvicious, Sunday, April 26, 2009, 0:17:45, you wrote: But when we are defining a custom delay for a message I think the more button should not be applied here. I suggest you to place the text with the real date-time of the sending without pressing any button, because it's a good way to test the info we set on the dialog. On the custom delay I think the template and the calendar selection doesn't applies. I agree with your suggestions. We should think how to implement it better. Also, when the user selects %POSTPONE macro from the macros menu when editing a template, an editor should also appear, the same way as a file dialog opens when the user wishes to include a file. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Ritlabs SRL http://www.ritlabs.com/ Current beta is 4.1.11.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Hold Over
Hello Paul, Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 12:59:53, you wrote: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 9:47:49 AM, you wrote: Dictionaries give hold over as a sinonym for postpone or delay, with the following examples: Hold over is not something that a native English speaker would say in this context. We have changed hold over to add to current date/time. It should better explain the functionality. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Ritlabs SRL http://www.ritlabs.com/ Current beta is 4.1.11.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Postponed Sending dialogue
Hello Volker, Monday, April 27, 2009, 0:00:35, you wrote: The arrows of the Time box do not work (see attachment), but you can type a different time in the corresponding field. This is a behaviour of a standard windows calendar control. Do you know other software when it works not the same as in The Bat!? -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Ritlabs SRL http://www.ritlabs.com/ Current beta is 4.1.11.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.1.11.18 Postponed Time Warp
Hello Jens, Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 14:41:53, you wrote: If you mean that the dates are formatting using the language configured Windows regional/language settings, rather than interface language of The Bat!, we will fix it in the next beta. I did not expect, that there are different Timezones used? No, the timezones aren't used. It's just the language to display the date, mostly the names of the months. The beta .19 displays the date in the correct language. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Ritlabs SRL http://www.ritlabs.com/ Current beta is 4.1.11.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Postponed Sending dialogue
Hello Jens, Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 14:49:07, you wrote: And i still do not understand why to compare to a date? Maybe, the wording was too perplexing Now we have rephrased it and it is now easier to understand without sacrifice in functionality. For me it would be enough if the Dialog tells me This Message, according to your choices in this Dialog, then will be sent at: _Weekday_ _DATE_ _TIME_ In .19, it's the way you want, I hope. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Ritlabs SRL http://www.ritlabs.com/ Current beta is 4.1.11.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Postponed Sending dialogue
Hello Jens, Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 15:06:53, you wrote: That is enough (until i understand why to have more than that): http://www.de2all.de/thebat/screen78.png You were right, while remaking the dialog we've lost some links that turn off some checkboxes when the user clicks the other... It should have been impossible to check them all. You can try .19 to figure out that it is all right. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Ritlabs SRL http://www.ritlabs.com/ Current beta is 4.1.11.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Postponed Sending dialogue
Hello Roger, Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 15:13:48, you wrote: OK, you are perhaps correct about there not being any other way to test, but I'm still not sure exactly what is meant by an 'arbitrary' date and time, as distinct from a required time that is set in the 'postponed' programme. You were right that we've chosen inappropriate phrases, may be in beta .19 it will get better. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Ritlabs SRL http://www.ritlabs.com/ Current beta is 4.1.11.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Postponed sending : using arrows in Send on specific date and time
Hello, when is Time checkbox in Send on specific date and time box checked, arrows are working only when I click to hour or minute. But even I select one of them, arrows are working once only, they loose focus after first click. -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.1.11.19 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.0.6 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 4.1.11.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Postponed Sending dialogue
Hello Volker, Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 12:25:10, you wrote: A few more thoughts brought me to this real flexible solution (see attachment). Thank you for some nice thoughts! The postponed sending dialog is the graphical editor for the small textual argument of the %POSTPONE macro, e.g. “+2h” means “add two hours” or “8:12” means send on 8:12 today if it’s before 8:12, otherwise send tomorrow on that time, etc. Did I understand correctly that in your dialog, if I don’t’ want to specify the date, I should select “Send in 0 days” radiobutton? And if I don’t want to specify the time, i.e. just want the all the new messages to be sent in 2 days, I have to specify “current time plus 0 hours 0 minutes”? -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Ritlabs SRL http://www.ritlabs.com/ Current beta is 4.1.11.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrading and buying the right license?
Hello Tony, Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 14:50:27, you wrote: If I remember rightly, the switch to V4.1.x.x brought about the need to re-license from a V3 license - am I correct? Ritlabs.com website may point you to different dealers based on your IP location, browser language, etc, and different dealers may have different wording. In most cases, if you select The Bat! Pro upgrade from TB! v.1-3 or somtehing like that, it will be OK. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Ritlabs SRL http://www.ritlabs.com/ Current beta is 4.1.11.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can I have confirmation the attachment icons still need fixing?
Hello Maxim, In case of multiple files, we are just showing the number, to save horizontal space. I have just received an email with six (6) JPG photos and the attachments column doesn't shoe anything. NO graphic icon and no number either. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.11.19 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 4.1.11.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Postponed Sending dialogue
Hello Volker, Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 18:42:22, you wrote: Did you see my latest draft for the dialog? Yes, this dialog have made a valuable contribution to further design of the dialog that you may see in the .19 beta. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Ritlabs SRL http://www.ritlabs.com/ Current beta is 4.1.11.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Postponed Sending dialogue
Hello Volker, Monday, April 27, 2009, 0:00:35, you wrote: The arrows of the Time box do not work (see attachment), but you can type a different time in the corresponding field. This is a behaviour of a standard windows calendar control. Do you know other software when it works not the same as in The Bat!? I could name many. I was just using Quicken which uses similar controls for dates. Once you have highlighted one column (say) the month you can spin through the numbers until you get the one you want -- Rick Rogues are preferable to imbeciles because they sometimes take a rest. - Alexandre Dumas v4.1.11.19 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.11.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Postponed Sending dialogue
Hello Volker, Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 18:50:01, you wrote: And that has nearly nothing to do with the [More]-Button. So please think about my dialog draft. :-) We will probably remove the more button when it is not needed and/or replace it with another control, like in the attached image. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Ritlabs SRL http://www.ritlabs.com/ attachment: more-less-button.png Current beta is 4.1.11.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Postponed Sending dialogue
On Friday, May 1, 2009, 7:58:38 PM, Maxim Masiutin wrote: You were right that we've chosen inappropriate phrases, may be in beta .19 it will get better. when I try to choose a specific date and time, and tick the time and use the arrows to scroll it only allows me to scroll one hour, or minute. If I highlight the minute and hit the arrow it will move one digit, then cease being highlighted. I have to highlight again, to move one more minute. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.1.11.19 on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 3) Current beta is 4.1.11.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
