Re: 5.0.0.101
On Friday, November 12, 2010, 0:01:39, Jernej Simončič wrote: - I somehow ended with a folder that shows 3 unread messages in the folders pane, but they're nowhere to be seen when I actually enter the folder ... err, make that 5 I now also have a folder with -1 unread message :) -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ [ The Bat! 5.0.0.101 ALPHA on Windows 7 6.1.7600. ] The bigger they are, the harder they hit. -- Perkin's Postulate Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.101
On Thursday, November 11, 2010, 11:08:13, Maxim Masiutin wrote: The Bat! 5.0.0.101 ALPHA is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb500101.rar Something I forgot to report yesterday: deleting an account left me with No template defined (or something similar) message in the message list - had to restart The Bat to get the list back. Also, is there some way to disable the tooltips when hovering over the folders and message list? They're annoying. (Oh, and I now have two Trash folders showing -1 unread message) -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ [ The Bat! 5.0.0.101 ALPHA on Windows 7 6.1.7600. ] If a computer cable has one end, then it has another. -- Lyall's Conjecture Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.99
Hello all. Now i am testing current alpha (5.0.0.101) and now i have some notes about hints: 1. On the beginning - you must provide a interface to configure each class of hints, because it can be sometimes very irritate, the current global configuration is too simple 2. Still the hints are not enough sensitive, when i move mouse position to another item when current hint is visible, hint no change. Anyway, i think that current hints design is effect of lack idea about good interface design. Why i think in this way - because information in hints duplicate information from other parts of interface. For example: * hint over subject shows image of message - this is a worse duplicate of Auto-view. Why worse - because sometimes message is readable (short), sometimes not (long message). For typical not so short messages the hint is not readable and, in this case, is this hint for ? * hint over sender, receiver - copy of context menu in message view when you use RPM over line From, or To * hint over folder in folder tree - copy of Properties window. In my opinion, the better solution will be when context-menu will be more context sensitive, for example context menu in message list should be different in each column: different for column with addresses, different for column with attachments, different for column with Subject. Next, will be good when menu auto hide rare used items. Third, user should have tool for adjustment context menu for each class/group. As the effect the interface will be cleaner and still useful. Bottomline: please move hints functionality to more context sensitive context menu and will be OK! -- G_K (Spamołap) Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.101
Hello Jernej, A reminder of what Jernej Simončič typed on: Friday, November 12, 2010 at 09:11:41 GMT +0100 - I somehow ended with a folder that shows 3 unread messages in the folders pane, but they're nowhere to be seen when I actually enter the folder ... err, make that 5 JS I now also have a folder with -1 unread message :) I am seeing this as well. Both in POP and IMAP. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:scu...@mts.net Using The Bat! v5.0.0.101 ALPHA On Windows 7 6.1 Build #7600 Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.101
Hello Jernej, A reminder of what Jernej Simončič typed on: Friday, November 12, 2010 at 10:03:39 GMT +0100 JS Also, is there some way to disable the tooltips when hovering over the JS folders and message list? They're annoying. I have turned my tooltips off, but I still have an annoyance with the tool tip that pops up while reading an HTML mail. If there is a link in the email a tool tip pops upshowing the link and it often covers up what you are trying to read. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:scu...@mts.net Using The Bat! v5.0.0.101 ALPHA On Windows 7 6.1 Build #7600 Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.101
Hello all, Thursday, November 11, 2010, Maxim Masiutin wrote: The Bat! 5.0.0.101 ALPHA is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb500101.rar What's new in 5.0.0.101 since 5.0.0.99: with this build, CC size is not saved anymore here. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 5.0.0.101 ALPHA under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7600 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.5.1 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.40 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.101
Hello Miroslav, Thursday, November 11, 2010, 5:30:41 PM, you wrote: - the position of the editor window is not stored Please select View|Store Window Position in the editor's menu, so the position will be stored. By default The Bat! lets Window position the editor window. -- Best regards, Maximmailto:m...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.101
Hi Maxim, Please select View|Store Window Position I've overlooked this option, the position is now stored. And also the editor header layout is stored, that was my fault, sorry. -- Best wishes Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.101
Hello Marek, Friday, November 12, 2010, 10:05:42 AM, you wrote: The Bat! 5.0.0.101 ALPHA is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb500101.rar What's new in 5.0.0.101 since 5.0.0.99: with this build, CC size is not saved anymore here. Was it ever saved? -- Best regards, Fastmailmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.101
Hello Maxim, Friday, November 12, 2010, 11:42:01 AM, you wrote: - the position of the editor window is not stored Please select View|Store Window Position in the editor's menu, so the position will be stored. By default The Bat! lets Window position the editor window. Sorry, I thought you were talking about the Connection Center. Its position and size is not stored. -- Best regards, Fastmailmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Information Tab
I notice the dialog in the information tab Compact the message base will remove delete messages. Then purge and compact is the next option. Is this correct or does the compact message need to be changed? Also you cannot copy from the Information tab When are we getting our OTHER tabs back? -- Rick There isn’t a health care system in the world that doesn’t have stories of people suffering; there isn’t a country in the world that doesn’t have waiting lists. In the United States the waiting list is pretty long - if you don’t have the money, you wait forever. Michael McBane, National Coordinator, www.medicare.ca v5.0.0.101 ALPHA on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Compacting Folders
I tried to compact a folder (from the hint) and got the following: --- The Bat! --- folder;\\\Vicki's - The system cannot find the file specified --- OK --- -- Rick Regular naps prevent old age, especially if you take them while driving. v5.0.0.101 ALPHA on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Compacting Folders
Hallo Rick, On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 14:41:11 -0500GMT (12-11-2010, 20:41 , where I live), you wrote: RG I tried to compact a folder (from the hint) and got the following: RG folder;\\\Vicki's - The system cannot find the file specified Can't confirm. However, compacting from the hint or the information tab gives me a pop-up window with a progress bart, while compacting from the menu bar or from the right mouse context menu freezes TB for the duration of the compact action without a pop-up. -- Groetjes, Roelof I have seen the future and it is now the past. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.0.101 ALPHA Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgp7xp1ek88SQ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Information Tab
Hallo Rick, On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 14:29:37 -0500GMT (12-11-2010, 20:29 , where I live), you wrote: RG I notice the dialog in the information tab Compact the message RG base will remove delete messages. Then purge and compact is the next option. RG Is this correct or does the compact message need to be changed? That's correct. RG Also you cannot copy from the Information tab That's not strange. Basically the info tab is nothing else than an alternate menu display. You cannot copy any menu in TB. (And off hand I can't think of a program that allows you to copy its menu bar) RG When are we getting our OTHER tabs back? Good question. -- Groetjes, Roelof Error 99: Dead mouse in hard drive. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.0.101 ALPHA Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpTTiyynBOTZ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Information Tab
On Friday, November 12, 2010, 1:29:37 PM, Rick wrote: When are we getting our OTHER tabs back? while return of the tabs would be a good thing, I find the more urgent question to be when will it be possible to browse deleted messages. Now, I have to resort to Thunderbird. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.0.101 ALPHA on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.101: CC size
Hello Fastmail, On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 12:28:31 -0600 GMT (13/Nov/10, 1:28 AM +0700 GMT), Fastmail wrote: The Bat! 5.0.0.101 ALPHA is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb500101.rar What's new in 5.0.0.101 since 5.0.0.99: with this build, CC size is not saved anymore here. F Was it ever saved? Yes, in all versions up to 4.x I have sized and positioned the CC once and forever. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.36.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
5.0.0.102
The Bat! 5.0.0.102 ALPHA is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb500102.rar What's new in 5.0.0.102 since 5.0.0.101: [-] (#0008155) 5.0.0.x Alpha. - TBUSER.EEF reset to default when starting TB! with OTFE [-] Fixed an IMAP AV on logon (BETA issue) [-] When protocol logging was enabled on IMAP, there were immediately the following error upon connection: 'EDosStreamError. Cannot open file ' [-] Fixed EOSError System Error. Code: 5. Access is denied exception in the log when the mouse was not available (BETA issue) [-] Finally fixed window positions on additional monitors (BETA issue) [-] (#0008153) 5.0.0.x alpha Export messages to text files creates empty files (BETA issue) [-] Fixed a rare AV in the message editor which could happen when closing the window (BETA issue) [*] Save messages to IMAP server-based outbox doesn't block input anymore (Beta issue) Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Voyager 5.0.0.103 ALPHA
Voyager 5.0.0.103 ALPHA is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/voyager_install_5-0-0-103.exe What's new in Voyager 5.0.0.103 ALPHA since Voyager 5.0.0.88 ALPHA: [-] Submission forms could not be submitten (Beta issue) [-]: Fixed bug 0007364 [-] (#0008069) 5.0.0.xx Alpha vs 4.2.36.4 discrepancies (Beta Issue) [-] (#0008067) 5.0.0.x Alpha: Messages count not displayed during loading (Beta Issue) [-] (#0008081) 5.0.0.58 IMAP vs 4.2.36.4 Message counts (Beta Issue) [-] (#0008028) Account list not showing all message totals (Beta Issue) [-] Previous alpha didn't work with IMAP (beta issue) [-] Fixed bug 0007364 [-] (#0008069) 5.0.0.xx Alpha vs 4.2.36.4 discrepancies (Beta Issue) [-] (#0008067) 5.0.0.x Alpha: Messages count not displayed during loading (Beta Issue) [-] (#0008081) 5.0.0.58 IMAP vs 4.2.36.4 Message counts (Beta Issue) [-] (#0008028) Account list not showing all message totals (Beta Issue) [-] Previous alpha didn't work with IMAP (beta issue) [-] Small IMAP fix (BETA issue) [-] (#0008122) 5.0.0.x Alpha. Cannot open clipboard AV [-] Some error messages were displayed as empty messages [*] IMAP message bases are now stored in a separate IMAP folders to prevent troubles when the user switches back and forth between versions 4 and 5 of The Bat! [-] Export message(s) to UNIX mailbox did't work (did export to a destination file and then immediately delete this file) in recent alphas (BETA issue) [*] Removed Create new chat folder and other chat-related menu items [-] Message|Save As wasn't working properly (Beta issue) [+] It's now possible to search for RegExp and other The Bat!-specific criterias in IMAP folders and in offline-mode (in cached messages only) [*] IMAP on-server search should be now functional for the Basic mode in Message Finder, other Finder modes are yet to come (Beta issue) [-] Fixed icon animation for Zahid [-] Message|Save As action was not working on IMAP [-] Changing of message's character set was removing messages from the list (Beta issue) [-] Messages from the .EML/.MSG files could not be copied into folders (Beta issue) [-] Fixed some bugs related to high memory consumption (BETA issue) [-] Fixed some bugs related to invalid HTML display (BETA issue) [*] The Bat! is now faster to compile [-] Advanced Search was not working correctly on IMAP folders (Beta issue) [-] IMAP search for text with non-ASCII characters was not working correctly (Beta issue) [*] The view mode changed exit confirmation is now not displayed when only sorting order or column widths have changed, in this case the changes in sorting and widths are discarded. [*] The about box is simplified [-] (#0008151) 5.0.0.x Alpha Two hints in Message Editor (BETA issue) [-] Some HTML hints were improperly displayed (BETA issue) [-] (#0007184) Connection Centre behaves strange [-] (#0007902) Connection Centre's show mode was not saved properly [-] Print preview window didn't remember its size and position (BETA issue) [*] The mouse cursor is hidden when it's over the QR Code Display window [-] (#0008155) 5.0.0.x Alpha. - TBUSER.EEF reseted to default when starting TB! with OTFE (BETA issue) [-] (#0006440) Ugly scrolling CC window [-] (#0006219) Connection Centre Display bug [-] (#0007623) Transparent Details-section of Connection Centre [-] (#0006469) Connection Centre shows black lines after scrolling [-] (#0004988) Details of Connection Center stay empty after deactivating and activating details [-] (#0006366) This message is currently locked by mail sending task error [-] (#0006351) Polling all acounts at start-up when it should not [-] (#0007184) Connection Centre behaves strange [-] (#0007902) A Connection Centre bug fixed [-] (#0008155) 5.0.0.x Alpha. - TBUSER.EEF reset to default when starting TB! with OTFE [-] Fixed an IMAP AV on logon (BETA issue) [-] When protocol logging was enabled on IMAP, there were immediately the following error upon connection: 'EDosStreamError. Cannot open file ' [-] Fixed EOSError System Error. Code: 5. Access is denied exception in the log when the mouse was not available (BETA issue) [-] Finally fixed window positions on additional monitors (BETA issue) [-] (#0008153) 5.0.0.x alpha Export messages to text files creates empty files (BETA issue) [-] Fixed a rare AV in the message editor which could happen when closing the window (BETA issue) [*] Save messages to IMAP server-based outbox doesn't block input anymore (Beta issue) -- Best regards, Maxim mailto:m...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
