Re: 5.0.0.112
Not new: Can't use this build either. 107 is the last build that works with my IMAP configuration. Anyone else getting this communications black out behaviour? I haven't created a BugTraq entry because nobody but me seems to have the problem. I am using it with Alt-N MDaemon 12 Mailserver and have had no issues with any of latest TB versions. I am actually that they work far better than the old versions. -- Marcus J. Using The Bat v5.0.0.112 BETA on Windows 7 Pro Current beta is 5.0.0.112 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TBBeta Mission Statement
The system cannot find the path specified (Z:\Internet Software\The Bat\TBUDL\MISSBETA.txt) Current beta is 5.0.0.112 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TBBeta Mission Statement
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings Beta Listers, This is your monthly message from the moderation team to remind you of the primary purpose of this discussion list. To review the list rules, follow the link at the end of this message. Before posting a question to the list, please check The Bat! User's FAQ at: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/FAQ.html and the list archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/tbb...@thebat.dutaint.com. To join the list, send a message to mailto:tbbeta-j...@thebat.dutaint.com TBBETA Mission statement The TBBETA list has been set up for the purpose of discussing The Bat! officially released Beta test versions and related issues. For general topics of a more simple nature regarding full release versions, refer to TBUDL. For more complex topics refer to TBTECH. An 'officially released' beta version is one which has been announced *by RITlabs* on the TBBETA list, usually with a list of changes. Simply send messages to tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com to send it to the whole list. See the notes at the end of this message for details about how to manage your list membership or to leave the list. It would probably be a good idea for you to set up a folder to keep TBBETA messages in. If you do this, the next most useful thing to have in place is an automatic filter to move mail from your inbox into your TBBETA folder. Set up a filter for incoming mail which looks for: Header Field [Reply-To] Contains [tbb...@thebat] The Roguemoticon Project It's nice to see your contact's face in the header ... and for them to see yours. That's what roguemoticons are all about. If you wish to add yourself, then you'll need to visit this site http://www.pcwize.com/thebat What this place will do for you is to allow you to create an account, add your image and then let you download a .ZIP file containing all the files you'll need to be able so see people's faces without having to send or receive any real images in any messages. To trigger the roguemoticon display in the message header for anyone reading your message using TB, you have the choice of using the X-Rogue: header or a signature trigger. How to use a signature trigger The image is triggered by a 'Handle' you've defined in your account, and when that Handle appears in a message it gets replaced on the client side by the corresponding image. A handle could look like anything you want it to look like pretty much. For example: :Marck_Pearlstone: Just add this text to your standard message signature block. How to create the X-Rogue: header You can do that with this macro: %SetHeader('X-Rogue',':your_handle:')%- in your templates for this and other tb-lists. However, the macro alone won't do the trick. TB'll say: 'Hey, that's not any RFC822 header I know about', so you'll have to define it as such: Options .. Preferences .. Messages .. Message headers .. 'Add' Now you'll get a pop-up to define the header Display as: X-Rogue (or whatever, it isn't very important) RFC header: X-Rogue Uncheck: 'This field is an address list' (because it isn't) Check: 'Allow this field to be edited in the message editor' Uncheck: 'Display this field in the scrollable part of the header pane' Now you're done and every TB-user can see your lovable face when they've installed the roguemoticons. For you to see peoples faces: To get this going, you should be running TB! v2.12 or later. Fetch the following file: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/smileys/rogues.zip Unzip it to the 'Images' directory that's in your TB! installation directory: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images You should now have a directory called 'rogues' containing many images as well as the file 'rogues.msl' in your Images directory. Go into the preferences, and bring up the View/Editor options. Now hit Shift-CTRL-Alt-T while TB! is in focus. This will re-fetch TB!'s smiley set from disk and load the new images. Within TB itself, select Options -- Preferences and click on 'Viewer/Editor and enable 'Use smiley icons in HTML editor'. TBOT - The Bat off topic discussion list One of our members has created a list for those occasional off topic discussions
Re: 5.0.0.112
Hello Dwight, On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 18:50:18 -0600GMT Dwight Corrin wrote: DC should add jumping to next folder does not take to an unread message. jumps to the folder but to the last marked message, not the unread one. -- Regards, Feli:de-bb: The Bat! 5.0.0.112 BETA on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3 Jedes Ding hat drei Seiten: Meine, Deine und die richtige [also doch meine] Current beta is 5.0.0.112 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TBBeta Mission Statement
On Wednesday, December 1, 2010, 10:00:24, Marck Pearlstone wrote: The system cannot find the path specified (Z:\Internet Software\The Bat\TBUDL\MISSBETA.txt) Interesting mission statement :) -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ [ The Bat! 5.0.0.112 BETA on Windows 7 6.1.7600. ] Never say oops in the operating room. -- Law of Local Anesthesia Current beta is 5.0.0.112 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: full list
Hello Jernej, Friday, November 26, 2010, 11:19:21 PM, you wrote: There's still the random 'View mode was changed, do you want to save changes?' when changing folders. Are you sure that it is random, i.e. you didn't change sorting direction or someting like that of your current view mode? For example, when you have a view mode and click a message list column header to change sorting from ascending to descending, the view mode setting changes. You don't have to enter configuration window to change a view mode. -- Best regards, Maximmailto:m...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 5.0.0.112 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TBBeta Mission Statement
Dear Jernej, @1-Dec-2010, 15:44 +0100 (01-Dec 14:44 here) Jernej Simončič [JS] in mid:1011086806.20101201154...@eternallybored.org said to Marck: The system cannot find the path specified (Z:\Internet Software\The Bat\TBUDL\MISSBETA.txt) JS Interesting mission statement :) Yes - I know... move along, nothing to see!! Corrected statements sent within minutes. Still wiping the egg from my face. -- Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v5.0.0.107 ALPHA on Windows 7 6.1.7600 ' pgpC2ffaYPxEv.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.0.112 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: full list
Hello Vilius, Friday, November 26, 2010, 11:55:43 PM, you wrote: 2. Mark all as read doesn't work. How can I reproduce it? Do you speak about plain IMAP or POP3 folders or virtual folders? -- Best regards, Maximmailto:m...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 5.0.0.112 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.110 CoreDump
Hello Jens, Saturday, November 27, 2010, 12:48:02 AM, you wrote: I managed to get a Full CoreDump, Windows would have liked to send a Message to Microsoft about this. Poorly i was not able to save the .dmp Files for Debugging - i am sorry. Should you get the .dmp files in future, please send them to me. -- Best regards, Maximmailto:m...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 5.0.0.112 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Crash on almost every HTML Message
Hello Jens, Saturday, November 27, 2010, 12:43:39 AM, you wrote: browsing my Folder with HTML Mails only, The Bat! crashed on every (really!) Mail, on some Mails it crased 2-3 times until all images are loaded. Is it related to image downloading or just to HTML (no images are being downloaded)? If some specific HTML messages make The Bat! crash, please try to forward them to me. -- Best regards, Maximmailto:m...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 5.0.0.112 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: full list
Hello Stuart, Saturday, November 27, 2010, 3:33:22 AM, you wrote: Also folder counts do not show up in password protected accounts. For sure in pop, not sure about IMAP. Could you please add it to /bt/ -- Best regards, Maximmailto:m...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 5.0.0.112 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: full list
2. Mark all as read doesn't work. How can I reproduce it? Do you speak about plain IMAP or POP3 folders or virtual folders? IMAP. I have tried to reproduce this in 112 and it seems that it is fixed. -- Vilius Current beta is 5.0.0.112 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: full list
Hello Stuart, Saturday, November 27, 2010, 4:22:30 PM, you wrote: Filtering is mostly IMAP. Currently, when you do IMAP filtering, you should specify the source folder for each of the filters (folders tab). By default, a filter is enabled for all folders, and in this case after moving a message to another folder, The Bat! will start to filter it again from that folder (unless you restrict the source folder to Inbox, for example). -- Best regards, Maximmailto:m...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 5.0.0.112 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: full list
Hello Stuart, Saturday, November 27, 2010, 9:38:58 PM, you wrote: Also still having issues with Smartermail. As I wrote before about Smartermail, it replies to UID STORE +FLAGS by sequence numbers rather than by UIDs as required by RFC. Please contact Smartermail developers to fix this bug ASAP. For example, on a command 00031 UID STORE 92853 +FLAGS (\Seen) the server should reply * 14 FETCH (FLAGS (\Seen) UID 92853) The server instead replies by sequence number, not by UID, which mades flag changes by UID impossible. -- Best regards, Maximmailto:m...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 5.0.0.112 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.112
Hello Dwight, Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 7:07:16 PM, you wrote: still doesn't remember connection centre belongs on 2nd monitor We are using exactly same routines to load and save positions for all windows, including the connection centre. Are the other windows remember that they are on the second monitor? -- Best regards, Maximmailto:m...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 5.0.0.112 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.112
Hello Marck, Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 10:16:11 PM, you wrote: MD 8.0.3 - works brilliantly with 5.0.0.107 and earlier builds. Could you please try MDaemon version 11.0.3, just whether it halts or not on that message that you have sent me? -- Best regards, Maximmailto:m...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 5.0.0.112 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: full list
Hi Maxim, 2. Mark all as read doesn't work. How can I reproduce it? Do you speak about plain IMAP or POP3 folders or virtual folders? For me it doesn't work with a common folder. So the folder is threaded and most of the threads are collapsed. Ctrl-M marks all as read but the threads stay bold as long as the threads are not opened completely. There's a refresh missing it seems. -- Best regards Raymund Using 5.0.0.112 BETA on Windows 7 (64 Bit) Current beta is 5.0.0.112 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.110 CoreDump
Am 01.12.2010 16:41, schrieb Maxim Masiutin: I managed to get a Full CoreDump, Windows would have liked to send a Message to Microsoft about this. Poorly i was not able to save the .dmp Files for Debugging - i am sorry. Should you get the .dmp files in future, please send them to me. Yes, i will do that, thanks for reply. -- Jens Franik je...@gmx.de Current beta is 5.0.0.112 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Crash on almost every HTML Message
Am 01.12.2010 16:42, schrieb Maxim Masiutin: browsing my Folder with HTML Mails only, The Bat! crashed on every (really!) Mail, on some Mails it crased 2-3 times until all images are loaded. Is it related to image downloading or just to HTML (no images are being downloaded)? If some specific HTML messages make The Bat! crash, please try to forward them to me. I sent you the ex_log Files, i guess it is due to downloading images, while The Bat! is still downloading the Message - but this is only my guess... -- Jens Franik je...@gmx.de Current beta is 5.0.0.112 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: full list
On Wednesday, December 1, 2010, 16:25:25, Maxim Masiutin wrote: Are you sure that it is random, i.e. you didn't change sorting direction or someting like that of your current view mode? For example, when you have a view mode and click a message list column header to change sorting from ascending to descending, the view mode setting changes. You don't have to enter configuration window to change a view mode. Judge for yourself: http://eternallybored.org/misc/thebat/viewmodechanged.gif -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ [ The Bat! 5.0.0.112 BETA on Windows 7 6.1.7600. ] Don't force it, get a larger hammer. -- Anthony's Law of Force Current beta is 5.0.0.112 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.112
Hello Gary, G Messages are not being deleted from the Trash Folder upon closing TB. My G various TB accounts are marked and set up to do so. Fixed, thanks for reminding! -- Cheers! Stefan ...Programmer - A red-eyed, mumbling mammal capable of conversing with inanimate objects Current beta is 5.0.0.112 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.112
On Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 08:12:29PM +0200 or thereabouts, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: Hello Gary, G Messages are not being deleted from the Trash Folder upon closing TB. My G various TB accounts are marked and set up to do so. Fixed, thanks for reminding! Thanks for fixing :) Gary Current beta is 5.0.0.112 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
5.0.0.122 - closing IMAP connection
I note that upon exiting TB, and looking at my IMAP logs, TB does not issue any IMAP command to close the connection(s). From my IMAP logs: Wed 2010-12-01 12:47:25: Socket connection closed by the other side (how rude!) Wed 2010-12-01 12:47:25: IMAP session terminated, (10715 bytes) Wouldn't a more elegant way of closing the connection be for TB to say/issue Wed 2010-12-01 12:45:42: -- A00012 LOGOUT Wed 2010-12-01 12:45:42: -- * BYE IMAP engine signing off (no errors) Wed 2010-12-01 12:45:42: -- A00012 OK LOGOUT completed Wed 2010-12-01 12:45:42: IMAP session complete, (4329 bytes) -- Gary Current beta is 5.0.0.112 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP ACL function
Will TB eventually support the IMAP ACL function ? Regards, -- Gary Current beta is 5.0.0.112 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.112
On Wednesday, December 1, 2010, 9:56:45 AM, Maxim Masiutin wrote: still doesn't remember connection centre belongs on 2nd monitor We are using exactly same routines to load and save positions for all windows, including the connection centre. Are the other windows remember that they are on the second monitor? Had never tried any other windows. But now, I have opened a window for to double click and open a particular folder from the preview pane. It sticks. The connection centre does not. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.0.112 BETA on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.0.0.112 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.112
Dear Maxim, @1-Dec-2010, 18:00 +0200 (01-Dec 16:00 here) Maxim Masiutin [MM] in mid:03643588.20101201180...@ritlabs.com said to Marck: MM Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 10:16:11 PM, you wrote: MD 8.0.3 - works brilliantly with 5.0.0.107 and earlier builds. MM Could you please try MDaemon version 11.0.3, just whether it halts or not on MM that message that you have sent me? I don't have access to that version - sorry :( -- Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v5.0.0.107 ALPHA on Windows 7 6.1.7600 ' pgpQE6qSLRSV3.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.0.112 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:5.0.0.112
On Tuesday, November 30, 2010 Maxim Masiutin, [MM] wrote: snipped a bit The Bat! 5.0.0.112 BETA is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb500112.rar I thought I saw somewhere where this was discussed, but I can't seem to find it again. Just upgraded to this version. I'm having a problem (quite often) that when I click on a message to open it, I get the message window open, but all it says is No Message Loaded. After messing with the message a bit by closing and re-opening or going to a different message and then back it will open. Anyone had this issue? -- Regards, Ron Secord The Bat! 5.0.0.112 BETA Professional AntispamSniper Pro 3.2.4.5 POP3 Accounts No OTFE Windows 7 6.1 7600 Current beta is 5.0.0.112 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.112
Hi Ron, On Wed, 1 Dec 2010 16:43:09 -0500 UTC (12/1/2010, 3:43 PM -0600 UTC my time), Ron Secord wrote: R Just upgraded to this version. I'm having a problem (quite often) that R when I click on a message to open it, I get the message window open, R but all it says is No Message Loaded. After messing with the message R a bit by closing and re-opening or going to a different message and R then back it will open. R Anyone had this issue? I also see this occasionally with IMAP. When this happens, once I go to another folder and return to that folder and message, the message(s) load normally. -- Gary Current beta is 5.0.0.112 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:5.0.0.112
On Wednesday, December 01, 2010 Gary, [G] wrote: snipped a bit On Wed, 1 Dec 2010 16:43:09 -0500 UTC (12/1/2010, 3:43 PM -0600 UTC my time), Ron Secord wrote: R Just upgraded to this version. I'm having a problem (quite often) that R when I click on a message to open it, I get the message window open, R but all it says is No Message Loaded. After messing with the message R a bit by closing and re-opening or going to a different message and R then back it will open. R Anyone had this issue? I also see this occasionally with IMAP. When this happens, once I go to another folder and return to that folder and message, the message(s) load normally. This is happening to me much more than occasionally. For instance, no matter what I do, I cannot open your reply to my message. The only way I could write this is to highlight your reply message go up to the toolbar and click the reply button. -- Regards, Ron Secord The Bat! 5.0.0.112 BETA Professional AntispamSniper Pro 3.2.4.5 POP3 Accounts No OTFE Windows 7 6.1 7600 Current beta is 5.0.0.112 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Compacting folder errors
On Friday, November 26, 2010 Rick, [R] wrote: snipped a bit I compacted a folder with [control] c. It compacted successfully but the OK message cascaded for a large number if times. Confirmed here. -- Regards, Ron Secord The Bat! 5.0.0.112 BETA Professional AntispamSniper Pro 3.2.4.5 POP3 Accounts No OTFE Windows 7 6.1 7600 Current beta is 5.0.0.112 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.112
miércoles, 1 dic 2010 at 22:43, it seems you wrote: Just upgraded to this version. I'm having a problem (quite often) that when I click on a message to open it, I get the message window open, but all it says is No Message Loaded. After messing with the message a bit by closing and re-opening or going to a different message and then back it will open. Anyone had this issue? Yes, I had this problem and I'm using POP accounts, the IMAP one doesn't works due to this bug [1] [1] https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8180 -- /\/ Using The Bat! 5.0.0.112 BETA Professional / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 3) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: AntiSpamSniper 3.2.5.1 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Spanish Translator of The Bat! Current beta is 5.0.0.112 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Compacting folder errors
On Friday, November 26, 2010 Rick, [R] wrote: snipped a bit I compacted a folder with [control] c. It compacted successfully but the OK message cascaded for a large number if times. Confirmed here. Confirmed again -- Rick When you're caffeinated, all is right with the world v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.0.112 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html