Re: Release?
Sveiki, Monday, December 13, 2010, 11:15:48 PM, you wrote: Hello! I am doing my time sheduling for the rest of the year right now. I'd like to know, if there is any upcoming release of The Bat! which needs (of course) time resouces for translations in this year or January. We are doing our best to release it in 2010. And we have just added more than 300 new strings today. What about IMAP sync functionallity? It still doesn't work. And without it we cannot test other bugs related to IMAP and submitted on BT. -- Best regards, Vilius Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Release?
Hello Vilius, VŠ What about IMAP sync functionallity? It will be available soon. Hopefully, it won't take too long to re-implement. -- Cheers! Stefan ...What you get is a living; what you give is a life. - Lilian Gish, American actress Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Release?
Hello Marek, MM I trust You are, but I fear this is possible: MM - virtual folders are not working MM - image download manager is not working and where is old configuration MM import? MM - view modes are not working MM - message list tabs are not working MM - there are many problems with new message list pane MM - new search bar is still buggy like it was introduced Sure, we are willing to fix all of these issues, but please add BT tracking numbers or better links to such statements. The reason is - there are many unconfirmed reports on BT, so it's really difficult to find whether a bug can be localised and fixed right away or we must spend hours or even days trying to reproduce it... -- Cheers! Stefan ...Always glad to share my ignorance - I've got plenty. Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.117
Hello Krzysztof, The Bat! 5.0.0.117 BETA is available at KK account / imap commands / manage imap folders = not working (exchange | KK imap) Do you mean - you use this command and nothing just happens? -- Cheers! Stefan ...Error reading FAT Table. Try Skinny one? (Y/N). Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.117
Do you mean - you use this command and nothing just happens? Exactly. Nothing happens. -- Pozdrowienia, Krzysztof Kudłacik Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.117
Hello Krzysztof, Do you mean - you use this command and nothing just happens? KK Exactly. Nothing happens. Is the IMAP session active on that account at that moment? -- Cheers! Stefan ...Technological progress is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal. - Albert Einstein Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Release?
Hello all, Tuesday, December 14, 2010, Maxim Masiutin wrote: I trust You are, but I fear this is possible: I understand your concerns. Anyway, we are not pushed to release a buggy version. We will release the version when it will be ready and stable. We have just added new translation strings in advance to give time to the people who translate. OK, then it is fine, lets translate :-) and please remove new About dialog, it is better to display nothing than this... The about dialog is purely technical to display version, copyright and registration information, we are in no need of whistles and bells here, we will keep the current about dialog. well, even Internet Explorer and others apps has better About than this, there is no need to add bells and whistles, but it should look better. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 5.0.0.118 BETA under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7600 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.5.1 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.40 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.0.0.118 BETA
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, at 16:49:41 [GMT -0500] (which was 22:49 where I live) Ron Secord wrote: F4 (Reply quoting selected text) still not working here. Cant confirm -- Met vriendelijke groet, Henk M. de Bruijn _ The Bat! Natural Email System 5.0.0.118 BETA on Windows 7 Ultimate Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.33GHz, 2333 MHz 64 bits AntispamSniper for The Bat! Pro 3.2.4.5 pgpMhwURYpUeq.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.0.0.118 BETA
Hi Henk, F4 (Reply quoting selected text) still not working here. Cant confirm Can't confirm either and I tried all editors (without a restart though). But I selected only 'F4 (Reply quoting...' but got ' F4' instead of ' F4' as I would expect. -- Best regards Raymund Using 5.0.0.118 BETA on Windows 7 (64 Bit) Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.117
I installed 5.0.0.117. When exiting the program, it deleted all my messages and emptied my folders. Lucky me, I had a backup from the day before. Back to 4.2.3.64 for now. Andreas 2010/12/12 Maxim Masiutin m...@ritlabs.com: The Bat! 5.0.0.117 BETA is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb500117.rar What's new in 5.0.0.117 since 5.0.0.116: [-] (#0008183) Search in message headers wasn't working on IMAP folders (Beta issue) [-] Message List Tab Properties could not be edited by the Properties of Tabs' local menu command (Beta issue) Current beta is 5.0.0.117 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- Rechtsanwalt Andreas Schwartmann Gleueler Str. 249 D-50935 Köln Tel: +49 (221) 3559205 | Fax: +49 (221) 3559206 Skype: schwartmann50733 www.rechtsanwalt-schwartmann.de www.xing.com/profile/Andreas_Schwartmann Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Release?
Am 14.12.2010 04:02, schrieb Vilmos Kertesz: Dont do that Everybody knows, that i would support this. I _DO_ like the Christmas Edition, but why can it not be a late Christmas or a Epiphany Release - this would give some more time. I would feel very sad, if another half-finished Version will be released... -- Jens Franik je...@gmx.de Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Release?
I go for the Eastern release, complete with Bunny et all. :) 2010/12/14 Jens Franik je...@gmx.de: Am 14.12.2010 04:02, schrieb Vilmos Kertesz: Dont do that Everybody knows, that i would support this. I _DO_ like the Christmas Edition, but why can it not be a late Christmas or a Epiphany Release - this would give some more time. I would feel very sad, if another half-finished Version will be released... -- Jens Franik je...@gmx.de Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- Rechtsanwalt Andreas Schwartmann Gleueler Str. 249 D-50935 Köln Tel: +49 (221) 3559205 | Fax: +49 (221) 3559206 Skype: schwartmann50733 www.rechtsanwalt-schwartmann.de www.xing.com/profile/Andreas_Schwartmann Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.117
Hello Andreas, On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 11:02:28 +0100GMT Andreas Schwartmann wrote: AS I installed 5.0.0.117. AS When exiting the program, it deleted all my messages and emptied my folders. That's why there is the message box with the warning on first start :-) -- Regards, Feli:de-bb: The Bat! 5.0.0.118 BETA on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3 die computerrevolution ist vorbei. die computer haben gewonnen. Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.117
Helle Feli, that's why I use Acronis True Image. :-) Grüße Andreas 2010/12/14 Feli Wilcke feli...@gmx.net: Hello Andreas, On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 11:02:28 +0100GMT Andreas Schwartmann wrote: AS I installed 5.0.0.117. AS When exiting the program, it deleted all my messages and emptied my folders. That's why there is the message box with the warning on first start :-) -- Regards, Feli :de-bb: The Bat! 5.0.0.118 BETA on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3 die computerrevolution ist vorbei. die computer haben gewonnen. Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- Rechtsanwalt Andreas Schwartmann Gleueler Str. 249 D-50935 Köln Tel: +49 (221) 3559205 | Fax: +49 (221) 3559206 Skype: schwartmann50733 www.rechtsanwalt-schwartmann.de Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.117
Is the IMAP session active on that account at that moment? How can i see it? -- Pozdrowienia, Krzysztof Kudłacik Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
v 5.x: no more image smileys
Hello Tbbeta, It's not at all a very important problem, but since the v 5.xx, the smileys (ie :-) ) appears not with the icon stored in the \images\Default folder of the program directory (but the rogues images appears correctly). Instead I obtain the characters squared with a black line. If I click on the button on the upper side of the new mail windows, I have the list of smileys with the icons. I have checked Display the raw messages using Microed, slower .. (I I have checked it seceral times !). Any ideas ? Bug or I have made something wrong ? -- Regards, Francis mailto:fran...@dhumes.fr French translator of TB! and ASS Message handmade on TB! 5.0.0.118 BETA on Windows 7 7600 AntispamSniper for TB! 3.2.4.5 Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.0.0.118 BETA
Howdy, On 12/13/2010, 4:00 PM, Maxim Masiutin wrote in mid:1174141523.20101213230...@ritlabs.com The Bat! 5.0.0.118 BETA is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb500118.rar I've been getting all sorts of Exceptions since .113, to the point that I have to keep restarting TB to even type this message. They're not consistent in their address locations, although if I recall there have been some pointer errors as well. Any others seeing similar behaviour? Thanks, Art -- Art Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands. :flag-cayman: __ The Bat! Pro v5.0.0.118 BETA on Windows 7 Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
V5 and Trusted Certificate
Hello Tbbeta, I just reinstalled Antispamsniper and when it start I get a trusted Root error. There are 2 options to View Certificate or Add to Trusted, but both are greyed out. I can select OK or Cancel and it continues without problems, but something needs to be done. Reported at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8199 -- Best regards, Stuart mailto:scu...@mts.net Using The Bat! v5.0.0.118 BETA On Windows 7 6.1 Build #7600 Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Release?
Hello Raymund, On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 08:26:03 +0100 GMT (14/Dec/10, 14:26 PM +0700 GMT), Raymund Tump wrote: You would have 10 days. Maybe enough to work on the software, but not to test it. RT And most of all update the documentation and help to be on par with RT the software. I think the last time the Help file was updated is about 10 years ago... but they did hire a professional at the time. I would agree that apart from a well-tested software, the documentation (in the form of a Help file) is an important deliverable. IMHO this holds true for each version. Especially though for this version 5, which is being watched all over. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.36.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.0.0.118 BETA
Hello Art, am Dienstag, 14. Dezember 2010 um 14:30 schriebst Du: I've been getting all sorts of Exceptions since .113, to the point that I have to keep restarting TB to even type this message. They're not consistent in their address locations, although if I recall there have been some pointer errors as well. Any others seeing similar behaviour? Confirmed. Startup errors, errors when I try to send messages, errors on closing TB! -- Viele Grüße, Christoph TheBat! v5.0.0.118 BETA unter Windows 7 6.1 Build 7600 Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.0.0.118 BETA
Christoph, On 12/14/2010, 10:28 AM, Christoph Koch wrote in mid:139614791.20101214162...@christoph-koch.de am Dienstag, 14. Dezember 2010 um 14:30 schriebst Du: Confirmed. Startup errors, errors when I try to send messages, errors on closing TB! Thanks! I've just moved back to .112 for the time being because I couldn't even read a message without getting an error message. -- Art Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands. :flag-cayman: __ The Bat! Pro v5.0.0.112 BETA on Windows 7 Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Release?
On Monday, December 13, 2010, 4:06:07 PM, Marek Mikus wrote: and please remove new About dialog, it is better to display nothing than this... while not pleasing to the eye, I disagree that not being able to gather the information it contains would be better. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.0.118 BETA on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Release?
On Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 1:26:03 AM, Raymund Tump wrote: And most of all update the documentation and help to be on par with the software. we've waited a long time for imap redo, don't make us wait months more for that. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.0.118 BETA on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Release?
Hi Dwight, we've waited a long time for imap redo, don't make us wait months more for that. Honestly, you can use the software as beta till the documentation is done and then it is released as release :-) -- Best regards Raymund Using 5.0.0.118 BETA on Windows 7 (64 Bit) Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Release?
Hi Raymund, Something completely different. I let this message sit there for a while before sending and now I have it parked seven times in the folder at the correct position (according to threading). -- Best regards Raymund Using 5.0.0.118 BETA on Windows 7 (64 Bit) Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
V118 View/Editor Preferences
Hello Bat People, See the non-English text below use smiley icons in HTML viewer (attached) in English version of Viewer/Editor. -- Best regards, Richard mailto:newmangr...@gmail.com = Using The Bat! v5.0.0.118 BETA on Windows XP6 Build 7600 attachment: v118.PNG Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: V118 View/Editor Preferences
Hello all, Tuesday, December 14, 2010, Richard Newman wrote: See the non-English text below use smiley icons in HTML viewer (attached) in English version of Viewer/Editor. It's russian text with mistakes... See attach. -- Regards, Sergey Voronov http://allbat.infoattachment: v118.PNG Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: V118 View/Editor Preferences
Hello Sergey, Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 3:59:21 PM, you wrote: SV It's russian text with mistakes... See attach. I figured it was probably Russian. But I'd never know if there were mistakes or not. -- Best regards, Richardmailto:newmangr...@gmail.com -- Using The Bat! v5.0.0.118 BETA on Windows XP6 Build 7600 Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Release?
martes, 14 dic 2010 at 16:56, it seems you wrote: while not pleasing to the eye, I disagree that not being able to gather the information it contains would be better. There was a button for copy the information, so I think there was no problem with the old about box. Max said they don't liked the credits in the same window, ok, remove the credits from the about box but please leave the graphic part of the old about box instead of the simply and ugly messagebox we have now. -- /\/ Using The Bat! 5.0.0.118 BETA Professional / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 3) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: AntiSpamSniper 3.2.5.1 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Spanish Translator of The Bat! Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Top posting (was: 5.0.0.117)
Hallo Andreas, On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 12:05:13 +0100GMT (14-12-2010, 12:05, where I live), you wrote: AS Grüße AS Andreas AS 2010/12/14 Feli Wilcke feli...@gmx.net: Hello Andreas, moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Andreas. ' This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message and b) It encourages excessive quoting. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one part of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof Cannot open file D:\Batmail\moderator.txt pgpxiWQdNxGxt.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Reply for new thread (was: Release?)
Hallo Raymund, On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 18:42:37 +0100GMT (14-12-2010, 18:42, where I live), you wrote: RTT Hi Raymund, RTT Something completely different. RTT I let this message sit there for a while before sending and now I have RTT it parked seven times in the folder at the correct position (according RTT to threading). moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Raymund. ' Please don't use reply to start a new thread. Your question has been posted at the bottom of an unrelated topic. The Bat! is a threading mail client. See View | View threads by | Reference to see where it ended up. The result is that it will only be seen by those reading that thread instead of by all users. I recommend that you post your question again using a New message if you want to see more replies to your query. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof pgp0WYNXWbmql.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.0.0.118 BETA
Hello Maxim, Monday, December 13, 2010, 4:00:40 PM, you wrote: MM The Bat! 5.0.0.118 BETA is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb500118.rar Sorry, was tied up recently and so I am a bit behind here. Can I just install the .118.exe over top of my 4.2 version or is there an MSI that I should run before I install the .118 beta? -- Best regards, MikeDmailto:miked_...@verizon.net Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
