Normal TB! database to OTFE - is it working?
Hi, I need to import data from Thunderbird to TB! (about 6GB all together), sort it into folders and remove duplicates. I could do all of it on OTFE except duplicates removal that is not working at all. Do you guys know if making a backup file from non encrypted TB! can be imported later on to OTFE? Can play with a TrueCrypt and TB! as I did it for Thunderbird for a while but not going to have TB! on it for rest of my life :) Hope that they can sort it out quite soon :) BTW, is there a limitation to database file for TB! ? It's gonna be about 3-4GB after it's compressed (Thunderbird compressed with 7ZIP is about 3GB). -- Best regards, RS The Bat! 5.0.8 Windows7 Professional (x64) Polish (SP1) OTFE Enabled ; so far only 3 POP3 accounts The Bat! 5.0.10 Windows7 Ultimate (x64) English (SP1) OTFE Enabled ; so far only 3 POP3 accounts Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Normal TB! database to OTFE - is it working?
Hallo RS, On Sat, 7 May 2011 16:54:49 +0800GMT (7-5-2011, 10:54 , where I live), you wrote: R Do you guys know if making a backup file from non encrypted TB! can be R imported later on to OTFE? Can be done. The other way around can be done too. Actually that is the way you need to go when you to switch from plain to otfe or back. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof Ever see a Moderator who would admit the problem was his? http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.12.1 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpERvgyrjNnz.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
No Filters fix yet. Hardd to believe
If find it so hard to believe, that it has been almost two months since the dreaded release of v5 and there is still no fix for major basic functionally such as filters, virtual folders and hangs. Is it really too much to ask? I am begging, not shouting... PLEASE FIX THE FILTER ISSUES. (Yes, a known reported bug) Please fix the hangs. Every morning I have to restart TheBat as it is hung. (Yes a known reported bug) Please fix the virtual folders issues. (Yes a known reported bug) I have pleaded you Ritlabs to fix these issues and they assured me that they will. I have been in product development, and I can tell you it doesn't take 2 months to fix basic, promised, documented functionally which leads me to believe something bad is happening at RitLabs. I have to ask: What are your new customers saying. I mean, if someone is purchasing TheBat for the first time, installs v5 and filters and virtual folders don't work as advertised, and the product AV's and hangs constantly, what are these customers to think??? Maybe TheBat doesn't have any new customers That would explain the lack of urgency to fix these issues. To be honest, I read these lists and I usually get a laugh out of people venting. I have never done that, however, I am so frustrated and disillusioned with this product and the RitLabs team that I felt it necessary to vent. Just to calm me down every morning when I go through the ritual of restarting TheBat and then cleaning up all the errors the filters made and then restating the bat again to clean up folder counts. I hate what this product has made be become... a list ventor... Sorry to all reading this -- Best regards, Joe 5.0.10 Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No Filters fix yet. Hardd to believe
On Sat, 7 May 2011 07:18:55 -0400, Joe wrote: To be honest, I read these lists and I usually get a laugh out of people venting. At least there's nothing wrong with your sense of humor. Arjan -- I am here to lose control Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No Filters fix yet. Hardd to believe
Title: Re: No Filters fix yet. Hardd to believe Hi Joe, Saturday, May 7, 2011, 8:18:55 AM, Joe wrote: I hate what this product has made be become... a list ventor... Sorry to all reading this I hope you feel better. I must admit that I don't actually have any of your problems. Windows 7 64 bit, filters work most of the time (there are some filters that only work manual, if there's a problem with the IMAP connection then filtering stops), refilter works flawlessly, no hangs, I don't even get any AVs any more. Weird how the same program can behave so differently on different platforms. -- __ _ Debian GNU User Simon Martin / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ __ Project Manager / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / Milliways / /__| | | | | |_| | mailto:smar...@milliways.cl \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1)
Title: Re[3]: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1) Hi All Courier users, Thursday, May 5, 2011, 8:44:05 AM, Tbbeta wrote: Hi Raymund, Thursday, May 5, 2011, 3:20:23 AM, Raymund wrote: Hi Simon, That brings us back to the original question: which server is that? My server is Courier. Okay, every time someone saw that problem there was a Courier server involved if I recall correctly. I guess someone should raise a bug report with them. I agree. Could someone who is NOT using Courier please save the mail, zip it and PM it to me please. I'll then do some tests here and then log the bug with the courier developers. Raymund resent me the original post by Gene. I forwarded it to myself and received it correctly. To do this I modified my courier configuration. If you are are using Debian or one of it's derivatives (Ubuntu for example) then edit /etc/courier/esmtpd and edit /etc/courier/esmtpd-ssl, add the following lines, other distributions will have to read the documentation: BOFHBADMIME=accept MIME=none MIME=none is actually implicit in the BOFHBADMIME=accept, but just to make it complete... Can others confirm that this works? Regards. -- __ _ Debian GNU User Simon Martin / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ __ Project Manager / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / Milliways / /__| | | | | |_| | mailto:smar...@milliways.cl \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No Filters fix yet. Hardd to believe
Hi Gene, Weird how the same program can behave so differently on different platforms. Let me paraphrase that a program that has REAL problems with its installation process is going to have some pretty strange results from computer to computer Today got onto another issue while trying to install TB! Had TB! install file sorted with other installators (ex: D:\! INSTALL\INTERNET\E-MAIL CLIENTS\ THE BAT\TB 5.0.8 Pro\thebat_pro_5-0-8.msi) Couldn't install from there. Had to copy it out of the structure to install (other programs were installing properly from there - checked). Not big issue but shouldn't have place. -- Best regards, RS The Bat! 5.0.8 Windows7 Professional (x64) Polish (SP1) OTFE Enabled ; so far only 3 POP3 accounts The Bat! 5.0.10 Windows7 Ultimate (x64) English (SP1) OTFE Enabled ; so far only 3 POP3 accounts Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No Filters fix yet. Hardd to believe
Hi Simon, I hope you feel better. I must admit that I don't actually have any of your problems. Windows 7 64 bit, filters work most of the time (there are some filters that only work manual, if there's a problem with the IMAP connection then filtering stops), refilter works flawlessly, no hangs, I don't even get any AVs any more. Weird how the same program can behave so differently on different platforms. Using it on x64 W7 and finding problems even with filtering on OTFE as well as a lack of support for non-native OS characters as well as lack of refiltering on Virtual Folders (at least on OTFE) ... (issues I wrote about through last week). Today's New Matters :) 1. Hang it today while recovering backup file - repeatable issue. 2. Importing messages from other clients (not writing here about EML but about scanning other client file and import) is at least not implemented properly. TB! moved my 6000 e-mails into default Inbox account ; all would be good BUT it was from different e-mail address and all got mixed...) - had to do exporting and importing manually through EML. For instance, EML import could have implemented scanning subdirectories as well instead of selecting each of them manually. However, I still have hope and I'm still willing to give it a chance (unless we're going to reach version 6.0.99 and there is still no filtering over OTFE nor non-native OS characters support). -- Best regards, RS The Bat! 5.0.8 Windows7 Professional (x64) Polish (SP1) OTFE Enabled ; so far only 3 POP3 accounts The Bat! 5.0.10 Windows7 Ultimate (x64) English (SP1) OTFE Enabled ; so far only 3 POP3 accounts Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No Filters fix yet. Hardd to believe
Hello Joe, On Sat, 7 May 2011 07:18:55 -0400 GMT (07/May/11, 18:18 PM +0700 GMT), Joe wrote: J If find it so hard to believe, that it has been almost two months J since the dreaded release of v5 and there is still no fix for major J basic functionally such as filters, virtual folders and hangs. Is J it really too much to ask? I am begging, not shouting... PLEASE J FIX THE FILTER ISSUES. (Yes, a known reported bug) A reported show-stopper, not just a bug. J Please fix the hangs. Every morning I have to restart TheBat as J it is hung. (Yes a known reported bug) J Please fix the virtual folders issues. (Yes a known reported bug) See above. If the virtual filters don't work reliably (and some users still report problems), it's a show-stopper. J I have pleaded you Ritlabs to fix these issues and they assured me J that they will. I have been in product development, and I can tell J you it doesn't take 2 months to fix basic, promised, documented J functionally which leads me to believe something bad is happening at RitLabs. Note that v4 is an evolved program, and it is the best POP client in the world (I don't use IMAP, so I cannot comment on that). v5 is a completely new software, as it is written from scratch, and it therefore does have its teething problems. Of course it was released prematurely, but that was Ritlabs' decision. J I have to ask: What are your new customers saying. I mean, if J someone is purchasing TheBat for the first time, installs v5 and J filters and virtual folders don't work as advertised, and the J product AV's and hangs constantly, what are these customers to J think??? Maybe TheBat doesn't have any new customers That would J explain the lack of urgency to fix these issues. It is actually up to Ritlabs to make their marketing decisions. We are here only to report problems and add our own views about beta versions. J To be honest, I read these lists and I usually get a laugh out of J people venting. I have never done that, however, I am so frustrated J and disillusioned with this product and the RitLabs team that I J felt it necessary to vent. Just to calm me down every morning when J I go through the ritual of restarting TheBat and then cleaning up J all the errors the filters made and then restating the bat again to J clean up folder counts. I hate what this product has made be J become... a list ventor... Sorry to all reading this Cool down. I know this is the beta list and people are donating their time and energy to a product for free, and the developers appear to be not listening to the paying users' urgent requests. But it is their decision whether to listen and implement, and it is your decision whether to donate your time to a commercial product. There is never a reason to get all upset. If you need a working email client (and are using POP), TB!v4 is the way to go. If you want to participate in testing a completely new program (albeit with the look-and-feel of TB!v4), test v5 but don't get upset - it's a new software and supposed to have teething problems. It should be called TB!new.v0.1 ;-) Personally, I currently depend on email for both my own company as well as my PhD studies, and I don't have a spare computer to test a risky software. If you need a stable email client, I recommend TB!v4. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
