Re: 5.3.2.12 Quick reply window in Virtual folder

2012-11-30 Thread Rick
No certain suggestions!! However I do know that TB does not always behave 
consistently, sometimes when one makes a setup change it will be accepted 
immediately but at other times one has to restart TB to get a change to start 
operating.

What I am going to shy should not be true, however ...
I have found that after replacing a new beta EXE, I never report problems until 
after a system reboot, which make some initial errors disappear. You are 
correct on some settings not sticking until you restart the prog


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The Bat! MSI

2012-11-30 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Tbbeta,

Could you please try the following MSI files:

http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_rus_5-3-4.msi
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_5-3-4.msi
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_5-3-4.msi
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_5-3-4.msi

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Re: The Bat! MSI

2012-11-30 Thread tux-
Maxim Masiutin schrob am Freitag, 30. November 2012 um 18:54 Zeit:

 Could you please try the following MSI files:

 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_rus_5-3-4.msi
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_5-3-4.msi
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_5-3-4.msi
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_5-3-4.msi

Should we just install them over the existing The Bat! installation?



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Re: The Bat! MSI

2012-11-30 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi,


MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_5-3-4.msi

Installed ok over v5.2.2.


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FR: a macro for software edition

2012-11-30 Thread Ivan Pozdeev
Hello ,

See my signature. I use Home and don't specify this since this would
be hard-coding. Omitting this already caused a misunderstanding in one
case.

Something like %SOFTWARENAME expanding to The Bat! Pro/The Bat!
Home Edition of %SOFTWAREEDITION (the name part is unlikely to be
different ;) ) would solve this.

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Re: The Bat! MSI

2012-11-30 Thread Richard Newman
Hello Maxim,

Friday, November 30, 2012, 12:54:57 PM, you wrote:
MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_5-3-4.msi
Installed fine. UR
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Re: The Bat! MSI

2012-11-30 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello tux-,

Friday, November 30, 2012, 8:00:35 PM, you wrote:

 Should we just install them over the existing The Bat! installation?

Yes, you can install over existing BETA or release version.

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Re: The Bat! MSI

2012-11-30 Thread tux-
Maxim Masiutin schrob am Freitag, 30. November 2012 um 19:26 Zeit:

 Yes, you can install over existing BETA or release version.

OK.
I installed it over my latest beta installation. It removed the
super-bar item (I pinned The Bat! so I can access it faster), the
context menu does not have a pin to taskbar item anymore. :-(



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Re: The Bat! MSI

2012-11-30 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Friday, November 30, 2012, 11:54:57 AM, Maxim Masiutin wrote:
 
 Could you please try the following MSI files: 

fine here 
  
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Re: The Bat! MSI

2012-11-30 Thread Stuart Pye
Hello Maxim,

UpRunning...





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Re: The Bat! MSI

2012-11-30 Thread tux-
Minimizing The Bat! to the tray leaves spaces in my taskbar. :(
http://i4.minus.com/ibo2KyW6ct1CIE.png



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Re: The Bat! MSI

2012-11-30 Thread Bob Riley
Hi Stuart,

Friday, November 30, 2012, 12:02:45 PM, you wrote:

SP Hello Maxim,

SP UpRunning...

Ditto - Thanks as always to Maxim and the team at RitLabs!

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Re: The Bat! MSI

2012-11-30 Thread Bob Riley
Hi Maxim,

Friday, November 30, 2012, 10:54:57 AM, you wrote:

MM Hello Tbbeta,

MM Could you please try the following MSI files:

MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_rus_5-3-4.msi
MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_5-3-4.msi
MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_5-3-4.msi
MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_5-3-4.msi


I  installed  it  right over the 5.2.2 msi (which had the updated .exe
files  added  over  time),  and  I checked the start The Bat option,
also.   The installation was quick and flawless.  My caveat, as usual,
is that I haven't checked all of TB's more exotic features.

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us.

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Re: FR: a macro for software edition

2012-11-30 Thread Vilmos Kertesz

 See my signature. I use Home and don't specify this since this would
 be hard-coding. Omitting this already caused a misunderstanding in one
 case.

 Something like %SOFTWARENAME expanding to The Bat! Pro/The Bat!
 Home Edition of %SOFTWAREEDITION (the name part is unlikely to be
 different ;) ) would solve this.



I think it would be a complete waste of time of the developers. Who cares
about if TB Home or TB Prof is used... It would unnecessarily increase the
code.

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Re: FR: a macro for software edition

2012-11-30 Thread Ivan Pozdeev
Who cares about if TB Home or TB Prof is used... It would unnecessarily 
increase the code.

The participants of this list do.

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Re[2]: FR: a macro for software edition

2012-11-30 Thread Paul Van Noord
11/30/2012  4:01 PM

Hi Ivan,

On 11/30/2012 Ivan Pozdeev wrote:

Who cares about if TB Home or TB Prof is used... It would unnecessarily 
increase the code.

IP The participants of this list do.

What percentage? I don't.

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Re: FR: a macro for software edition

2012-11-30 Thread Vilmos Kertesz

 Who cares about if TB Home or TB Prof is used... It would unnecessarily
 increase the code.

 The participants of this list do.


I rephrase my first sentence. Why is it important to indicate if someone is
using TB Home or Prof? It is like the old flight simulator in Excel...

The beta list has to focus on advancement of the software. That includes
bug fixes, advancement of operation. The customers (and their satisfaction
should be priority No 1.) wants a _stable_ TB with no bugs. Developer time
should be used for that.

Vili

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Re: The Bat! MSI

2012-11-30 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Friday, November 30, 2012, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

 Could you please try the following MSI files:

I can, but why, if You are not listening? :-((


1) Quick reply is not announced in changelog, so is it a new feature or
not? Seems not enough new to mention.

But changelog is strange enough, because adding PGP 10.0.2 is announced as
a bugfix.


2) when I click to QR pane and select context menu entry Message editor,
this AV appears:

---
The Bat!
---
Access violation at address 00C49B15 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 
001C
---
OK   
---


3) Quick Reply pane is now less intuitive than before, since You removed
text about Quick Reply and left whole pane empty including dropdown.

I have shown it to two users who never saw it before and they asked me what is
that empty pane for and why is that empty dropdown there.

Why you add features which can not be understood by regular users?

Maybe You should change Send to Send Quick reply...


4) why is Send button active when no text is entered to edit field? Why
is useful to send empty message??


5) why is still dropdown for selecting QR recipient not working after
weeks I have reported it?

AGAIN, I have selected last entry Reply to Recipient and default Reply
to sender was selected instead. Why is it there, if buggy??

Reported October 12th


6) when I enter text and hit Send, there is no indication that message was
sent - again You could change Send button to Message sent and remove it
when user changes message or clicks to QR edit field.


7) why cannot be this pane translated? :-(

Reported October 11th


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Re[2]: The Bat! MSI

2012-11-30 Thread Stuart Pye
Hello Marek,

Friday, November 30, 2012, 6:04:57 PM, you wrote:



MM But changelog is strange enough, because adding PGP 10.0.2 is announced as
MM a bugfix.

Would seem to be a feature addition.


MM 2) when I click to QR pane and select context menu entry Message editor,
MM this AV appears:

MM ---
MM The Bat!
MM ---
MM Access violation at address 00C49B15 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of 
address 001C
MM ---
MM OK   
MM ---

I cannot confirm this action, it works OK for me.


MM 3) Quick Reply pane is now less intuitive than before, since You removed
MM text about Quick Reply and left whole pane empty including dropdown.

I agree, except the dropdown has 4 entries.

MM I have shown it to two users who never saw it before and they asked me what 
is
MM that empty pane for and why is that empty dropdown there.

Perhaps place a text label _above_ the box:  Quick Reply (QR) Panel

MM Why you add features which can not be understood by regular users?

That's what beta testers are supposed to do: talk reality to
developers that are too close to the product. Don't shoot the
innovators, guide and praise them.



MM Maybe You should change Send to Send Quick reply...

Send QR


MM 4) why is Send button active when no text is entered to edit field? Why
MM is useful to send empty message??

Good point here.


MM 5) why is still dropdown for selecting QR recipient not working after
MM weeks I have reported it?

Seems to work now. Am I not understanding you?


MM Reported October 12th


MM 6) when I enter text and hit Send, there is no indication that message was
MM sent - again You could change Send button to Message sent and remove it
MM when user changes message or clicks to QR edit field.

Good user interface suggestion here.







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Re[3]: The Bat! MSI

2012-11-30 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Saturday, December 1, 2012, Stuart Pye wrote:

MM 3) Quick Reply pane is now less intuitive than before, since You removed
MM text about Quick Reply and left whole pane empty including dropdown.

 I agree, except the dropdown has 4 entries.

if You do not click to edit field, dropdown has no text, this is confusing.

MM Why you add features which can not be understood by regular users?

 That's what beta testers are supposed to do: talk reality to
 developers that are too close to the product. Don't shoot the
 innovators, guide and praise them.

if You were here for 14 years like me, You would understand what I am
talking about.

BTW this behaviour was changed since last beta, so Ritlabs changed it
before compiling final release and as in the past, I expect, this MSI will
be released to public unchanged.

MM Maybe You should change Send to Send Quick reply...

 Send QR

in The Bat!, QR is already used for QR code, so this is confusing.


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Re[4]: The Bat! MSI

2012-11-30 Thread Stuart Pye
Hello Marek,

Friday, November 30, 2012, 6:36:48 PM, you wrote:



MM if You do not click to edit field, dropdown has no text, this is confusing.

Agreed.

MM Why you add features which can not be understood by regular users?

 That's what beta testers are supposed to do: talk reality to
 developers that are too close to the product. Don't shoot the
 innovators, guide and praise them.

MM if You were here for 14 years like me, You would understand what I am
MM talking about.

I've used TB since 1.61 or so, maybe 11 years, but I haven't been in
the beta list that long. I'm not exactly new at this program, just
have a different perspective, like all of us in this beta gang.

MM BTW this behaviour was changed since last beta, so Ritlabs changed it
MM before compiling final release and as in the past, I expect, this MSI will
MM be released to public unchanged.

You're probably right, but don't give up hope.

MM Maybe You should change Send to Send Quick reply...

 Send QR

MM in The Bat!, QR is already used for QR code, so this is confusing.

OK, QS for Quick Send (QS) Panel text; Send Now, with the other button 
state changes you suggested.




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Re[2]: Flagging is intermittent (again)

2012-11-30 Thread Stuart Pye
Hello Stefan,

Monday, October 29, 2012, 8:40:08 AM, you wrote:

ST Hello Stuart,

SP 5.3.2.5 has brought back the problem of disappearing message flags. Is
SP anyone else seeing this?Did anyone else notice this in even earlier
SP betas?

ST Could you please add more details?

The new .msi seems to have fixed the flagging.  Even the folders that
would not keep flags after reboot sessions now hold any flags I set,
so I'm a _VERY_ happy camper.  TB makes me excited and joyous today!
It's still the world's best email program, IMHO.

Thanks for fixing whatever you or someone else did. Really, thanks!






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Re: The Bat! MSI

2012-11-30 Thread MAU
Hello Maxim,
 
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_5-3-4.msi

Installed with no problems and running fine so far.

I am happy to see that https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=119 Read
Filters problem is resolved:

Thank you Stef. I am just sorry I can't be as active a beta tester as I
was in the past.

However, https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=127 is still present.
HTML mail not displayed correct if Smilies activated. The first line of
the message will display:

E HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN

and it disappears as soon as Smilies are deactivated.

I don't think this is a major issue though

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