Re: 5.3.2.12 Quick reply window in Virtual folder
No certain suggestions!! However I do know that TB does not always behave consistently, sometimes when one makes a setup change it will be accepted immediately but at other times one has to restart TB to get a change to start operating. What I am going to shy should not be true, however ... I have found that after replacing a new beta EXE, I never report problems until after a system reboot, which make some initial errors disappear. You are correct on some settings not sticking until you restart the prog -- Rick People are made to be loved and things are made to be used... The confusion in this world is that people are being used and things are being loved... v5.3.2.12 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.3.2.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! MSI
Hello Tbbeta, Could you please try the following MSI files: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_rus_5-3-4.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_5-3-4.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_5-3-4.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_5-3-4.msi -- Best regards, Maxim mailto:m...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 5.3.2.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! MSI
Maxim Masiutin schrob am Freitag, 30. November 2012 um 18:54 Zeit: Could you please try the following MSI files: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_rus_5-3-4.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_5-3-4.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_5-3-4.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_5-3-4.msi Should we just install them over the existing The Bat! installation? Current beta is 5.3.2.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! MSI
Hi, MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_5-3-4.msi Installed ok over v5.2.2. -- MfG, Altomailto: pgpoPxBntbZ5Q.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.3.2.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
FR: a macro for software edition
Hello , See my signature. I use Home and don't specify this since this would be hard-coding. Omitting this already caused a misunderstanding in one case. Something like %SOFTWARENAME expanding to The Bat! Pro/The Bat! Home Edition of %SOFTWAREEDITION (the name part is unlikely to be different ;) ) would solve this. -- Best regards, Ivan mailto:v...@mail.mipt.ru 5.3.2.11 (BETA) on Windows XP Current beta is 5.3.2.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! MSI
Hello Maxim, Friday, November 30, 2012, 12:54:57 PM, you wrote: MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_5-3-4.msi Installed fine. UR -- Best regards, Richardmailto:the...@newmangroup.com -- Using The Bat! v5.3.4 on Windows 7 v6 7601 Current beta is 5.3.2.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! MSI
Hello tux-, Friday, November 30, 2012, 8:00:35 PM, you wrote: Should we just install them over the existing The Bat! installation? Yes, you can install over existing BETA or release version. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin managing director Ritlabs S.R.L. Current beta is 5.3.2.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! MSI
Maxim Masiutin schrob am Freitag, 30. November 2012 um 19:26 Zeit: Yes, you can install over existing BETA or release version. OK. I installed it over my latest beta installation. It removed the super-bar item (I pinned The Bat! so I can access it faster), the context menu does not have a pin to taskbar item anymore. :-( Current beta is 5.3.2.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! MSI
On Friday, November 30, 2012, 11:54:57 AM, Maxim Masiutin wrote: Could you please try the following MSI files: fine here -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.3.4 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.3.2.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! MSI
Hello Maxim, UpRunning... Best regards, Stuart This message was delivered by MDaemon - http://www.altn.com/MDaemon/ Current beta is 5.3.2.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! MSI
Minimizing The Bat! to the tray leaves spaces in my taskbar. :( http://i4.minus.com/ibo2KyW6ct1CIE.png Current beta is 5.3.2.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! MSI
Hi Stuart, Friday, November 30, 2012, 12:02:45 PM, you wrote: SP Hello Maxim, SP UpRunning... Ditto - Thanks as always to Maxim and the team at RitLabs! -- Take Care, Bob -- I am here to only be of help. I am here to represent the One who sent us. Someday, we'll all realize that this is true for every last one of us. Using The Bat! 5.3.4 Windows 6.2 build 9200 Current beta is 5.3.2.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! MSI
Hi Maxim, Friday, November 30, 2012, 10:54:57 AM, you wrote: MM Hello Tbbeta, MM Could you please try the following MSI files: MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_rus_5-3-4.msi MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_5-3-4.msi MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_5-3-4.msi MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_5-3-4.msi I installed it right over the 5.2.2 msi (which had the updated .exe files added over time), and I checked the start The Bat option, also. The installation was quick and flawless. My caveat, as usual, is that I haven't checked all of TB's more exotic features. -- Take Care, Bob -- I am here to only be of help. I am here to represent the One who sent us. Someday, we'll all realize that this is true for every last one of us. Using The Bat! 5.3.4 Windows 6.2 build 9200 Current beta is 5.3.2.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: FR: a macro for software edition
See my signature. I use Home and don't specify this since this would be hard-coding. Omitting this already caused a misunderstanding in one case. Something like %SOFTWARENAME expanding to The Bat! Pro/The Bat! Home Edition of %SOFTWAREEDITION (the name part is unlikely to be different ;) ) would solve this. I think it would be a complete waste of time of the developers. Who cares about if TB Home or TB Prof is used... It would unnecessarily increase the code. -- Vili Current beta is 5.3.2.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: FR: a macro for software edition
Who cares about if TB Home or TB Prof is used... It would unnecessarily increase the code. The participants of this list do. -- Best regards, Ivanmailto:v...@mail.mipt.ru 5.3.2.11 (BETA) on Windows XP Current beta is 5.3.2.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: FR: a macro for software edition
11/30/2012 4:01 PM Hi Ivan, On 11/30/2012 Ivan Pozdeev wrote: Who cares about if TB Home or TB Prof is used... It would unnecessarily increase the code. IP The participants of this list do. What percentage? I don't. - -- Paul The Bat! v.4.2.44.2 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 6.1.7601 No IMAP No OTFE Current beta is 5.3.2.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: FR: a macro for software edition
Who cares about if TB Home or TB Prof is used... It would unnecessarily increase the code. The participants of this list do. I rephrase my first sentence. Why is it important to indicate if someone is using TB Home or Prof? It is like the old flight simulator in Excel... The beta list has to focus on advancement of the software. That includes bug fixes, advancement of operation. The customers (and their satisfaction should be priority No 1.) wants a _stable_ TB with no bugs. Developer time should be used for that. Vili Current beta is 5.3.2.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! MSI
Hello all, Friday, November 30, 2012, Maxim Masiutin wrote: Could you please try the following MSI files: I can, but why, if You are not listening? :-(( 1) Quick reply is not announced in changelog, so is it a new feature or not? Seems not enough new to mention. But changelog is strange enough, because adding PGP 10.0.2 is announced as a bugfix. 2) when I click to QR pane and select context menu entry Message editor, this AV appears: --- The Bat! --- Access violation at address 00C49B15 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 001C --- OK --- 3) Quick Reply pane is now less intuitive than before, since You removed text about Quick Reply and left whole pane empty including dropdown. I have shown it to two users who never saw it before and they asked me what is that empty pane for and why is that empty dropdown there. Why you add features which can not be understood by regular users? Maybe You should change Send to Send Quick reply... 4) why is Send button active when no text is entered to edit field? Why is useful to send empty message?? 5) why is still dropdown for selecting QR recipient not working after weeks I have reported it? AGAIN, I have selected last entry Reply to Recipient and default Reply to sender was selected instead. Why is it there, if buggy?? Reported October 12th 6) when I enter text and hit Send, there is no indication that message was sent - again You could change Send button to Message sent and remove it when user changes message or clicks to QR edit field. 7) why cannot be this pane translated? :-( Reported October 11th -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 5.3.4 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.3.1.5 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.40 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.3.2.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! MSI
Hello Marek, Friday, November 30, 2012, 6:04:57 PM, you wrote: MM But changelog is strange enough, because adding PGP 10.0.2 is announced as MM a bugfix. Would seem to be a feature addition. MM 2) when I click to QR pane and select context menu entry Message editor, MM this AV appears: MM --- MM The Bat! MM --- MM Access violation at address 00C49B15 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 001C MM --- MM OK MM --- I cannot confirm this action, it works OK for me. MM 3) Quick Reply pane is now less intuitive than before, since You removed MM text about Quick Reply and left whole pane empty including dropdown. I agree, except the dropdown has 4 entries. MM I have shown it to two users who never saw it before and they asked me what is MM that empty pane for and why is that empty dropdown there. Perhaps place a text label _above_ the box: Quick Reply (QR) Panel MM Why you add features which can not be understood by regular users? That's what beta testers are supposed to do: talk reality to developers that are too close to the product. Don't shoot the innovators, guide and praise them. MM Maybe You should change Send to Send Quick reply... Send QR MM 4) why is Send button active when no text is entered to edit field? Why MM is useful to send empty message?? Good point here. MM 5) why is still dropdown for selecting QR recipient not working after MM weeks I have reported it? Seems to work now. Am I not understanding you? MM Reported October 12th MM 6) when I enter text and hit Send, there is no indication that message was MM sent - again You could change Send button to Message sent and remove it MM when user changes message or clicks to QR edit field. Good user interface suggestion here. Best regards, Stuart mailto:stu...@slicenet.net This message was delivered by MDaemon - http://www.altn.com/MDaemon/ Current beta is 5.3.2.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: The Bat! MSI
Hello all, Saturday, December 1, 2012, Stuart Pye wrote: MM 3) Quick Reply pane is now less intuitive than before, since You removed MM text about Quick Reply and left whole pane empty including dropdown. I agree, except the dropdown has 4 entries. if You do not click to edit field, dropdown has no text, this is confusing. MM Why you add features which can not be understood by regular users? That's what beta testers are supposed to do: talk reality to developers that are too close to the product. Don't shoot the innovators, guide and praise them. if You were here for 14 years like me, You would understand what I am talking about. BTW this behaviour was changed since last beta, so Ritlabs changed it before compiling final release and as in the past, I expect, this MSI will be released to public unchanged. MM Maybe You should change Send to Send Quick reply... Send QR in The Bat!, QR is already used for QR code, so this is confusing. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 5.3.4 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.3.1.5 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.40 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.3.2.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: The Bat! MSI
Hello Marek, Friday, November 30, 2012, 6:36:48 PM, you wrote: MM if You do not click to edit field, dropdown has no text, this is confusing. Agreed. MM Why you add features which can not be understood by regular users? That's what beta testers are supposed to do: talk reality to developers that are too close to the product. Don't shoot the innovators, guide and praise them. MM if You were here for 14 years like me, You would understand what I am MM talking about. I've used TB since 1.61 or so, maybe 11 years, but I haven't been in the beta list that long. I'm not exactly new at this program, just have a different perspective, like all of us in this beta gang. MM BTW this behaviour was changed since last beta, so Ritlabs changed it MM before compiling final release and as in the past, I expect, this MSI will MM be released to public unchanged. You're probably right, but don't give up hope. MM Maybe You should change Send to Send Quick reply... Send QR MM in The Bat!, QR is already used for QR code, so this is confusing. OK, QS for Quick Send (QS) Panel text; Send Now, with the other button state changes you suggested. Best regards, Stuart Stuart Pye USA Mobile: +1-804-399-8303 Skype: stuartpye mailto:stu...@slicenet.net or mailto:stu...@nowire.us This message was delivered by MDaemon - http://www.altn.com/MDaemon/ Current beta is 5.3.2.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Flagging is intermittent (again)
Hello Stefan, Monday, October 29, 2012, 8:40:08 AM, you wrote: ST Hello Stuart, SP 5.3.2.5 has brought back the problem of disappearing message flags. Is SP anyone else seeing this?Did anyone else notice this in even earlier SP betas? ST Could you please add more details? The new .msi seems to have fixed the flagging. Even the folders that would not keep flags after reboot sessions now hold any flags I set, so I'm a _VERY_ happy camper. TB makes me excited and joyous today! It's still the world's best email program, IMHO. Thanks for fixing whatever you or someone else did. Really, thanks! Best regards, Stuart Stuart Pye USA Mobile: +1-804-399-8303 Skype: stuartpye mailto:stu...@slicenet.net or mailto:stu...@nowire.us This message was delivered by MDaemon - http://www.altn.com/MDaemon/ Current beta is 5.3.2.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! MSI
Hello Maxim, http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_5-3-4.msi Installed with no problems and running fine so far. I am happy to see that https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=119 Read Filters problem is resolved: Thank you Stef. I am just sorry I can't be as active a beta tester as I was in the past. However, https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=127 is still present. HTML mail not displayed correct if Smilies activated. The first line of the message will display: E HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN and it disappears as soon as Smilies are deactivated. I don't think this is a major issue though -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.3.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.3.2.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html