Re: The Bat! v8.8 MSI files

[Gunivortus Goos]

A quick question,

already aince quite a few udates The Bat does not start anymore
after a cold start or a warm reboot of my Windows.
In the settings, The Bat ist set to start when Windows starts.
Did something related to that change in the new updates?

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Gunivortus Goos

The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 8.8
Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 17134



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The Bat! 8.8 runs fine on wine - was: The Bat! v8.8 MSI files

[Joerg Schiermeier]

Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA wrote:

> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_32_8-8.msi
> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_8-8.msi

New MSI files means also new tests against brand new wine v4.1 which was 
released just some days ago (February 4, 2019):

Both are running on Linux (Debian64) on latest wine without any (known) 
serious problems. See also Wines application database about "The Bat!":


There are also described three different installation methods how to 
install "The Bat!" on Linux/Wine.

If you find something not working related to wine please send a bug report  
to wine: 
IMPORTANT: Please do not send it to this list (NOT to tbbeta).

Please note:
1.) Plugins which are created for use under 32bit didn't work with 64bit   
version of "The Bat!" (not a wine problem). Unless there are no native 64bit 
plugins available, this will not be fixed.

2.) A known issue is about the system tray in KDE:

So I recommend to switch of the system tray icon in "The Bat!s" preferences.

Please notice: this tests were done by some scripts to get a quick check if 
there are some new problems since the last MSIs

Thanks for your nice work Maxim!

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Best regards,

Joerg Schiermeier
Bielefeld, Germany
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test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta
wine: v4.1 - Debian64/buster: v4.19.16-1 (2019-01-17)




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Re: The Bat! Voyager 8.8.0.1

[Lüko Willms]

Hello everybody,

on Dienstag, 12. Februar 2019 at 12:18  Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA 
 wrote
re The Bat! Voyager 8.8.0.1

> Please try The Bat! Voyager 8.8.0.1 from
> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/voyager_install-8-8-0-1.exe

   Also the mobile version up & running. 
   
   When will Voyager be packaged for the PortableApps.com platform? 


Cheers,
Lüko Willms
Frankfurt am Main
Germany

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using: TheBat! 8.8.0.1 (Voyager)
OS: Windows 7(NT 6.1 Build 7601 - Service Pack 1)
CPU: AMD  amd athlon(tm) 64 x2 dual core processor 4200+
MEM: 4097 MB 
 Current beta is 8.7.0.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: The Bat! v8.8 MSI files

[Martin]

Hi The

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 7:25:46 PM you wrote:

> Then what, if 8.2.4.3 starts freezing as well? Shall I downgrade to 7?

As you were told that Ritlabs only changed the key. So if you
re-register Thebat it should work.

> Please, understand that before trying anything like that I need to see at
> least that the cancel button works after a failed oauth procedure, or I will
> be forced to give up The Bat completely.

Why? Gmail messages are still stored on there server - you are loosing
nothing! So you could erase TheBat completely on your machine and
re-install it and re-install the Gmail account again.

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   Martin
   mar...@postzone.org

TheBat! 8.8 Pro (32bit, with OTFE) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1



 Current beta is 8.7.0.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
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Re: The Bat! v8.8 MSI files

[Luca via TBBETA]

Martin:

> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 2:33:08 PM you wrote:
> > Martin:
> 
> >> Hi The
> >> 
> >> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 12:33:42 PM you wrote:
> >> 
> >> > Luca via TBBETA:
> >> 
> >> > I'm scared of trampling with that. If 8.2.4.3 also stops working I'd be 
> >> > kicked
> >> > out of my email and I couldn't use TB anymore.
> >> 
> >> Or you could set up an other email address with an other provider with
> >> which you can receive/send mail with TB and go to Google Webmail 
> 
> > C'mon, that's not a solution, it's an awful workaround. It would be far more
> > comfortable to switch to Thunderbird completely.
> 
> I mentioned it not as a solution but as a temporary workaround when
> you try to unregister Thebat and re-register it with Gmail.

Then what, if 8.2.4.3 starts freezing as well? Shall I downgrade to 7? 
Please, understand that before trying anything like that I need to see at
least that the cancel button works after a failed oauth procedure, or I will
be forced to give up The Bat completely.
-- 
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 SP 1
The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 8.2.4.3 (OTFE) 
The Bat! Professional Edition 8.6.0.12 (BETA) (64-bit) (OTFE)

Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it



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Re: The Bat! v8.8 MSI files

[Lüko Willms]

Hello everybody,

on Dienstag, 12. Februar 2019 at 11:40  Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA 
 wrote
re The Bat! v8.8 MSI files

> Please try The Bat! v8.8 download MSI files to test:
> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_32_8-8.msi

  up and running 
  
  Voyager 8.8.0.1 also installed -- no real use yet, since that is only meant 
for times when I am traveling. 
  

Cheers,
Lüko Willms
Frankfurt am Main
Germany

using: TheBat! 8.8
OS: Windows 7(NT 6.1 Build 7601 - Service Pack 1)
CPU: AMD  amd athlon(tm) 64 x2 dual core processor 4200+
MEM: 4097 MB
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Re: Address book: Sometimes very slow, sometimes Out of System Resources

[Martin]

Hi The

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 6:34:40 PM you wrote:

> I'm facing a problem with address book. Maybe someone else, too. 

No problems so far.

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   Martin
   mar...@postzone.org

TheBat! 8.8 Pro (32bit, with OTFE) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1



 Current beta is 8.7.0.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
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Address book: Sometimes very slow, sometimes Out of System Resources

[mse]

Hello all,

I'm facing a problem with address book. Maybe someone else, too. 

Three days back I realized that when opening the address book window, 
the list of available address books is displayed very slowly. You can 
watch the list grow; switching between address books takes about 3 
seconds. A GIF is shown here:
https://www.batboard.net/index.php/Attachment/5844-Adressbuch-langsam-gif/

Dragging the address book window on title bar is also slow. When 
changing address books, the system workload increases from about 3% to 
about 30% for these two or three seconds that it takes. 

Version 8.8 does not load address book altogether. Instead I get an "Out 
of system resources"-message and The Bat has to be killed via Task 
Manager. 

I also know that I have used address book normally about two weeks 
back. However, some versions I tested back to Version 8.7.0 all showed 
a similar behaviour. The rest of The Bat works perfectly fine (Editor, 
SmartPad, search, quick templates, sorting office, ...).

I suspect that this is not The Bat's fault but rather some 3rd party 
related issue. I just have no idea how to find that out...

@Ritlabs: Could the extract from thebat_exceptions point into a 
direction? I attached one here.

Thank to everyone.

Best regards,
mse
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Using The Bat! Version 8.8 (32-bit) Pro on
Windows 10 (Build 17763) (64-bit) without OTFE
Date: 13 Feb 2019 18:01:04
OS: Windows 10  X64 (AMD or Intel) build 17763
PhysMemFreeTotal: 002047/002047 MB
VirtMemFreeTotal: 001745/002047 MB
MAPI #0: Windows Live Hotmail [Hotmail]; Path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet 
Explorer\hmmapi.dll (valid)
MAPI #1: Microsoft Outlook [Microsoft Outlook]; Path: 
C:\PROGRA~2\MICROS~1\Office14\OLMAPI32.DLL (valid)
MAPI #2:  [PackagedMail]; Path: mmgaclient.dll (not valid)
MAPI #3: The Bat! [The Bat!]; Path: C:\Program Files (x86)\The 
Bat!\tbmapi32.dll (valid)
Default Profile: Outlook
Address: 00542640
ClassName: EOutOfResources
Message: Out of system resources
IsOSException: 0
Modules: 
 0040 20190212103114 C:\Program Files (x86)\The Bat!\thebat32.exe
Stack: 
 00542640 [0040]
 0054263B [0040]
 005426DE [0040]
 0164EDE5 [0040]
 0054270F [0040]
 00547C87 [0040]
 0040B210 [0040]
 0040AD6C [0040]
 0040ABEC [0040]
 0040AEFA [0040]
 0040AF4B [0040]
 00548667 [0040]
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 00D93C5A [0040]
 00D926D5 [0040]
 00542286 [0040]
 00580883 [0040]
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 0057AEF0 [0040]
 0058081D [0040]
 00575952 [0040]
 0057A537 [0040]
 00579B04 [0040]
 004D3458 [0040]
 0078C4B5 [0040]
 0072FFFC [0040]
 00687605 [0040]
 0040729D [0040]
 00407260 [0040]
 00687721 [0040]
 00EDF185 [0040]
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 00579B3F [0040]
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 0040A5B6 [0040]
 00433440 [0040]
 004339D6 [0040]
 0040B8E5 [0040]
 0054263B [0040]
 0040A5B6 [0040]
 00433440 [0040]
 004339D6 [0040]
 0040B8E5 [0040]
 0051E9D0 [0040]
 0054263B [0040]
 005426DE [0040]
 0164EDE5 [0040]
 0054270F [0040]
 00547C87 [0040]
 0040B210 [0040]
 0040AD6C [0040]
 0040ABEC [0040]
 0040AEFA [0040]
 0040AF4B [0040]
 00548667 [0040]
 0054A7FB [0040]
 0054A3AB [0040]
 00D93C5A [0040]
 00D926D5 [0040]
 00542286 [0040]
 00580883 [0040]
 0057A701 [0040]
 0057AEF0 [0040]
 0058081D [0040]
 00575952 [0040]
 0057A537 [0040]
 00579B04 [0040]
 004D3458 [0040]
 0078C4B5 [0040]
 00687023 [0040]
 00687066 [0040]
 00687399 [0040]
 0180BC35 [0040]
 01835F60 [0040]

 Current beta is 8.7.0.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: The Bat! v8.8 MSI files

[Martin]

Hi The

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 1:47:59 PM you wrote:

> Dear Luca, in wersion 8.2.4.3 was changed only google key for Thebat!
> May be it will help if you turn off 2factor auth temporarry and
> then try to register gmail account in theBat! agin

That was my advice already.

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   Martin
   mar...@postzone.org

TheBat! 8.8 Pro (32bit, with OTFE) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1



 Current beta is 8.7.0.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
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Re: The Bat! v8.8 MSI files

[Martin]

Hi The

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 2:33:08 PM you wrote:


> Martin:

>> Hi The
>> 
>> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 12:33:42 PM you wrote:
>> 
>> > Luca via TBBETA:
>> 
>> > I'm scared of trampling with that. If 8.2.4.3 also stops working I'd be 
>> > kicked
>> > out of my email and I couldn't use TB anymore.
>> 
>> Or you could set up an other email address with an other provider with
>> which you can receive/send mail with TB and go to Google Webmail 

> C'mon, that's not a solution, it's an awful workaround. It would be far more
> comfortable to switch to Thunderbird completely.

I mentioned it not as a solution but as a temporary workaround when
you try to unregister Thebat and re-register it with Gmail.

-- 
Best regards,
   Martin
   mar...@postzone.org

TheBat! 8.8 Pro (32bit, with OTFE) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1



 Current beta is 8.7.0.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: The Bat! v8.8 MSI files

[Stuart Pye]

Hello Maxim,

Tuesday, February 12, 2019, 5:40:45 AM, you wrote:


MMvT> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_8-8.msi

U



Best regards,

Stuart Pye


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Re: The Bat! v8.8 MSI files

[Luca via TBBETA]

andrei.sliusarenco via TBBETA:

> Wednesday, February 13, 2019, 1:33:42 PM, you wrote:
> > Luca via TBBETA:
> 
> >> Martin:
> >> > Did you
> >> > ever try to delete TheBat as three party app and later (after logout
> >> > and login again) to try to enable it again?
> 
> > I'm scared of trampling with that. If 8.2.4.3 also stops working I'd be 
> > kicked
> > out of my email and I couldn't use TB anymore.
> 
> Dear Luca, in wersion 8.2.4.3 was changed only google key for Thebat!
> May be it will help if you turn off 2factor auth temporarry and then try to 
> register gmail account in theBat! agin

Would you please describe this procedure step by step please? I'm not sure I'm
following you and again, I cannot risk Google shutting me out v. 8.2.4.3 as
well. Thanks.

Please, note that we are dealing with 2 different problems here, both very
serious:

1) Oauth process fails with any version of TB after 8.2.4.3

2) The failed Oauth process *crashes TB* 100% of the times. Even if this were
a problem caused by Google itself, the fact that I cannot even *open* TB in
any useful way, and I am forced to *kill TB process* entirely, that's a deadly
serious bug anyway and should be addressed independently.
-- 
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 SP 1
The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 8.2.4.3 (OTFE) 
The Bat! Professional Edition 8.6.0.12 (BETA) (64-bit) (OTFE)

Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it



 Current beta is 8.7.0.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: The Bat! v8.8 MSI files

[Luca via TBBETA]

Martin:

> Hi The
> 
> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 12:33:42 PM you wrote:
> 
> > Luca via TBBETA:
> 
> > I'm scared of trampling with that. If 8.2.4.3 also stops working I'd be 
> > kicked
> > out of my email and I couldn't use TB anymore.
> 
> Or you could set up an other email address with an other provider with
> which you can receive/send mail with TB and go to Google Webmail 

C'mon, that's not a solution, it's an awful workaround. It would be far more
comfortable to switch to Thunderbird completely.
-- 
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 SP 1
The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 8.2.4.3 (OTFE) 
The Bat! Professional Edition 8.6.0.12 (BETA) (64-bit) (OTFE)

Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it



 Current beta is 8.7.0.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: The Bat! v8.8 MSI files

[andrei.sliusarenco via TBBETA]

Title: Re: The Bat! v8.8 MSI files


Hello Luca,

Wednesday, February 13, 2019, 1:33:42 PM, you wrote:

> Luca via TBBETA:

>> Martin:
>> > Did you
>> > ever try to delete TheBat as three party app and later (after logout
>> > and login again) to try to enable it again?

> I'm scared of trampling with that. If 8.2.4.3 also stops working I'd be kicked
> out of my email and I couldn't use TB anymore.

Dear Luca, in wersion 8.2.4.3 was changed only google key for Thebat!
May be it will help if you turn off 2factor auth temporarry and then try to register gmail account in theBat! agin

--
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aslius



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Re: The Bat! v8.8 MSI files

[Martin]

Hi The

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 12:33:42 PM you wrote:

> Luca via TBBETA:

> I'm scared of trampling with that. If 8.2.4.3 also stops working I'd be kicked
> out of my email and I couldn't use TB anymore.

Or you could set up an other email address with an other provider with
which you can receive/send mail with TB and go to Google Webmail and
enable a deviation of the incoming mail on this new account.


-- 
Best regards,
   Martin
   mar...@postzone.org

TheBat! 8.8 Pro (32bit, with OTFE) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1



 Current beta is 8.7.0.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: The Bat! v8.8 MSI files

[Luca via TBBETA]

Luca via TBBETA:

> Martin:
> > Did you
> > ever try to delete TheBat as three party app and later (after logout
> > and login again) to try to enable it again?

I'm scared of trampling with that. If 8.2.4.3 also stops working I'd be kicked
out of my email and I couldn't use TB anymore.
-- 
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 SP 1
The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 8.2.4.3 (OTFE) 
The Bat! Professional Edition 8.6.0.12 (BETA) (64-bit) (OTFE)

Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it



 Current beta is 8.7.0.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: The Bat! v8.8 MSI files

[Luca via TBBETA]

Martin:

> Hi
> 
> On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 10:54:03 PM you wrote:
> 
> >> In the security settings (security check) in your Google account (last
> >> point: Access of three party apps) - did you allow TheBat to connect
> >> (read, write, delete)?
> 
> > Yes. And I repeat: v. 8.2.4.3 works perfectly, that's the last working one. 
> > It
> > is something that was introduced the build after, definitely.
> 
> Or Google does see something unsecure in the later versions. 

Hence, it is something that was introduced the build after, like I said.

> Did you
> ever try to delete TheBat as three party app and later (after logout
> and login again) to try to enable it again?

I found the same issue about an earlier version:
https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1401
They say it's fixed, but it's not.
-- 
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 SP 1
The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 8.2.4.3 (OTFE) 
The Bat! Professional Edition 8.6.0.12 (BETA) (64-bit) (OTFE)

Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it



 Current beta is 8.7.0.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html