Re: HTML rendering
Hello Stefan, On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 17:43:03 +0200 GMT (27-Oct-20, 22:43 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Hello Thomas, >> I have sent you two company emails with which TB! has problems rendering. >> Could you kindly look into this? > I actually replied yesterday. I only received it this morning. The delay may be a GMX thing, as they are "improving" their anti-spam system at the moment. > Looks like images from the last message was downloaded with slow speed. The > first message is rendered immediately here, so I'm wondering about the > hardware... Same hardware renders the same email much faster in Outlook. > To fix problem with slow sties, we are going to use file caching in the next > Beta, we'll see how it goes. I see some performance improvements with file > cache already, so it'll stay anyway, I guess. That might be a workaround, as these circulars always have the same pictures. However, Outlook renders them fast even on the first attempt, so my guess is that there is something in the code that slows it down. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.2.5.7 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML rendering
Hello Stefan, On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 19:16:43 +0200 GMT (28-Oct-20, 0:16 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: >> I am sure you can still read emails without fancy colours. But let's not go >> into this - you seem to be quite religious about it. > It's about visual comfort. We used dark theme similar to ChokoDark in Dos > Navigator back in 1992, long before dark themes become a trend. The Bat! had > a non-white default background for similar reasons, so this buzz about dark > themes is not just a toy :-) Well noted about the comfort, but I think being able to use TB! for work is important enough to honour the reason why I started this thread. TB! is now greatly decreasing efficiency. If this is not fixed, my company will have to move on. I wouldn't help if TB! became a very comfortable and inefficient email client. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.2.5.7 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML rendering
Hello Thomas, > I am sure you can still read emails without fancy colours. But let's not go > into this - you seem to be quite religious about it. It's about visual comfort. We used dark theme similar to ChokoDark in Dos Navigator back in 1992, long before dark themes become a trend. The Bat! had a non-white default background for similar reasons, so this buzz about dark themes is not just a toy :-) -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov pgpTkxsnpEXpO.pgp Description: PGP signature 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML rendering
Hello Thomas, > I have sent you two company emails with which TB! has problems rendering. > Could you kindly look into this? I actually replied yesterday. Looks like images from the last message was downloaded with slow speed. The first message is rendered immediately here, so I'm wondering about the hardware... To fix problem with slow sties, we are going to use file caching in the next Beta, we'll see how it goes. I see some performance improvements with file cache already, so it'll stay anyway, I guess. -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov pgptPMvKIdnfP.pgp Description: PGP signature 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.5.7
Hi Stefan, ST> Version 9.2.5.7 is available U -- With best regards, Sergey ( mailto:ad...@dotfix.net ) DotFix Software: http://www.dotfixsoft.com 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML rendering
Hello George, On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 10:16:57 +0300 GMT (27-Oct-20, 14:16 +0700 GMT), George Salnik wrote: [You skipped the import part, namely that the HTML rendering needs urgent attention] >> I see the colour schemes as a toy and less important than usability in a >> real working environment. > 1) Toy that up my speed of work. Stop works of that feature will be strange. > We need release without some child bugs. I am sure you can still read emails without fancy colours. But let's not go into this - you seem to be quite religious about it. > 2) TB! Use it Chromium core now. Is your email looks equal bad in the Chrome > or another chromium browser? It takes a full minute to render. Slows down work to an unacceptable time, and freezes TB! during that time. It totally interrupts the work flow. I think there is a difference. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.2.5 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.5.7
Howdy! Вы писали 26 октября 2020 г., 19:13:27: > Hello Gunivortus, >> Many of them kept white at first, then, after 1 - 6 seconds, they take >> the color of the dark theme. >> I do not understand the delay here. > That's because the dark theme is applied once the message is fully loaded and > those messages use images addressed by external links. We're already thinking > of how to optimize this - the most obvious solution would be applying the > theme after some timeout like 1-2 sec (i.e. when the text is rendered and > styles defined). Some of emails have this delay again and again. Just go to another email and return to it and need to wait again. Some do this for 1-2 sec, this is normal for me, some have delay more than 5 sec - this looks abnormal. What about to store "black" state after showing first time this message?, not re-render every time. Best Regards, George Salnik RitLabs Russian Forum Moderator 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML rendering
Howdy! Вы писали 27 октября 2020 г., 3:13:09: > I see the colour schemes as a toy and less important than usability in a real > working environment. 1) Toy that up my speed of work. Stop works of that feature will be strange. We need release without some child bugs. 2) TB! Use it Chromium core now. Is your email looks equal bad in the Chrome or another chromium browser? Best Regards, George Salnik RitLabs Russian Forum Moderator 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
