Re: Replying inline to HTML messages

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Ira,

On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 20:28:19 -0700 GMT (12-Jun-21, 10:28 +0700 GMT),
Ira wrote:


> Friday, June 11, 2021, 8:21:00 PM, you wrote:


>> When replying inline to HTML messages, the rpely looks like it was part of 
>> the original message that is being replied to.

> Yes, it does this.  The state of the new HTML editor is so far from usable 
> it's as if no one even tries to use it.
Kindly support: 0002128: Replying inline to HTML messages not shown as reply - 
Ritlabs Bug Tracker

(Sorry, I cannot just post the URL, the editor won't allow me to post as 
plaintext.)

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Re: Replying inline to HTML messages

[Ira]

Hello Thomas,
 
Friday, June 11, 2021, 8:21:00 PM, you wrote:
 

> When replying inline to HTML messages, the rpely looks like it was part of 
> the original message that is being replied to.
 
Yes, it does this.  The state of the new HTML editor is so far from usable it's 
as if no one even tries to use it. 
 
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Replying inline to HTML messages

[Thomas Fernandez]

Dear TBBETA,

When replying inline to HTML messages, the rpely looks like it was part of the 
original message that is being replied to.

Steps to reproduce: 

Hit "reply" on an HTML message. 
The original text will be behind a green vertical line.
Now hit  after the first paragraph and start typing the reply.

The reply is still behind the green line, i.e. identifying as quoted text. It 
also has the same font. So there is no way to see that this is the reply rather 
than the original text.

My suggestion is that the green line will be interrupted and the reply starts 
at the beginning of the line. This worked with the old HTML editor (but the 
line was blue and there was a problem with the width).

Any confirmations?

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Re: New HTML editor: Paste as plaintext does not work

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Thomas,

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 09:20:32 +0700 GMT (12-Jun-21, 9:20 +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:


> Hello mse,

> On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 16:42:48 + GMT (11-Jun-21, 23:42 +0700 GMT),
> mse wrote:


> Hello Thomas,

> Try to past a link or a formatted text (such as from a Word file) into an 
> HTML email. Normal paste (crtl-V or right-click Paste) works.

> If I want to paste as plaintext, shift-crtl-V will still paste formatted, and 
> right-click Paste as Plaintext is greyed out. So I always have to copy the 
> text into Notepad and then copy from there into TheBat.

> This started with the introduction of the new HTML editor.

> Confirmations?
> I can confirm. Additionally, Paste as quotation from the dropdown menu in 
> tool bar an in context menu is deactivated either.
> Kindly support https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2127
Still the same in 9.3.4.16.

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Re: 9.3.4.16 HTML bug fixes

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Stefan,

On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 22:09:26 +0300 GMT (12-Jun-21, 2:09 +0700 GMT),
Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote:

> Dear All,

> Version 9.3.4.16 ALPHA is available

> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.3.4.16-x64.7z

U

> Here is  a short list of changes:

> [-] Various bug fixes for HTML editor - caret positioning, links handling, 
> DPI issues etc (Alpha issue)

Caret positioning seems to be correct now on first try. Let me use this version 
for a couple of days and I will report back.

Links are clickable now.

According to the footer, these were not "Alpha" issues but "Apha" issues 
though. ;-)

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Re: New HTML editor: Paste as plaintext does not work

[Thomas Fernandez]

Title: Re: New HTML editor: Paste as plaintext does not work


Hello mse,

On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 16:42:48 + GMT (11-Jun-21, 23:42 +0700 GMT),
mse wrote:





Hello Thomas,





Try to past a link or a formatted text (such as from a Word file) into an HTML email. Normal paste (crtl-V or right-click Paste) works.

If I want to paste as plaintext, shift-crtl-V will still paste formatted, and right-click Paste as Plaintext is greyed out. So I always have to copy the text into Notepad and then copy from there into TheBat.

This started with the introduction of the new HTML editor.

Confirmations?



I can confirm. Additionally, Paste as quotation from the dropdown menu in tool bar an in context menu is deactivated either.



Kindly support https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2127 

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Re: 9.3.4.16

[Jernej Simončič]

On Friday, June 11, 2021, 23:53:07, Jernej Simončič wrote:


> Also, when inserting images into HTML messages, they appear at what looks 
> like 200% zoom – might be related to high contrast, too (let's see how this 
> inserted image appears once I send the message).
The image is definitely zoomed in for me.

Also noticed another problem – the image file I was inserting was 8735 bytes on 
disk; when I saved the message as draft, it somehow became 12648 bytes; after I 
opened the draft and sent it, the image somehow became 16 kB, almost twice the 
size of the original. This probably shouldn't happen.

And a spell checker problem: in the word "shouldn't" above (and here), the 
"shouldn" part is treated as if spelled wrongly (red underline) – looks like 
the checker is treating ' as word separator for some reason.

Also, there's a misspelling in the version number: Apha :)

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Re: 9.3.4.16

[Jernej Simončič]

On Friday, June 11, 2021, 21:09:26, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote:
https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.3.4.16-x64-full.7z
I noticed that the colour drop-downs in Preferences are broken (at least in high-DPI mode):Also, when inserting images into HTML messages, they appear at what looks like 200% zoom – might be related to high contrast, too (let's see how this inserted image appears once I send the message).I can see that the scrollbars in HTML messages now have the arrow buttons, which were missing previously.
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Re: 9.3.4.16

[Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA]

Hello Gleason, 


> 404 error.

Thank you!  Fixed :)


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Re: 9.3.4.16

[Gleason]

Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA,

404 error.

> Dear All, 
> 
> Version 9.3.4.16 ALPHA is available 
> 
> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.3.4.16-x32-full.7z
> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.3.4.16-x64-full.7z
> 
> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.3.4.16-x32.7z
> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.3.4.16-x64.7z
> 
> Here is  a short list of changes:
> 
> [-] Various bug fixes for HTML editor - caret positioning, links handling, 
> DPI issues etc (Alpha issue)
> [-] (#2123) QR Code Generator was not functional (Alpha issue)
> 
> 
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> CEO @ Ritlabs S.R.L.
> 
> 
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9.3.4.16

[Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA]

Dear All, 

Version 9.3.4.16 ALPHA is available 

https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.3.4.16-x32-full.7z
https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.3.4.16-x64-full.7z

https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.3.4.16-x32.7z
https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.3.4.16-x64.7z

Here is  a short list of changes:

[-] Various bug fixes for HTML editor - caret positioning, links handling, DPI 
issues etc (Alpha issue)
[-] (#2123) QR Code Generator was not functional (Alpha issue)


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[wish]: Please add a feature in the address book to choose the direction of synchronisation

[Joerg Schiermeier]

Hi there!

I want to introduce my wish about the address book in The Bat! and it's
synchronisation against remote address books:

My setting:
I run a Nextcloud instance on my web server. There is also a remote
address book which I synchronise with The Bat!. At the moment remote
changes also effects the local address book and local changes also
effects the remote address book.

My wish:
I want to choose which direction this changes are:

a.) local changes effects remote changes to the remote address book,
remote changes effects local changes to the local address book
(symmetrical synchronisation)

b.) local changes effects remote
address book (changes are written also remote), remote changes are
ignored (asymmetrical synchronisation)

c.) remote changes effects local
address book (changes are written also local), local changes are ignored
(asymmetrical synchronisation)

The current way the synchronisation is done is letter a.)


If you like my wish so please support it in Ritlabs Bugtracker:



P.S.: Please excuse my wrong written "address book" in the
Bugtracker...!

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Re: New HTML editor: Paste as plaintext does not work

[mse]

Hello Thomas,

> Try to past a link or a formatted text (such as from a Word file) into an 
> HTML email. Normal paste (crtl-V or right-click Paste) works.

>  If I want to paste as plaintext, shift-crtl-V will still paste formatted, 
> and right-click Paste as Plaintext is greyed out. So I always have to copy 
> the text into Notepad and then copy from there into TheBat.

> This started with the introduction of the new HTML editor.

> Confirmations?
I can confirm. Additionally, Paste as quotation from the dropdown menu in tool 
bar an in context menu is deactivated either.
 
Best regards,
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New HTML editor: Paste as plaintext does not work

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello TBBETA,

Try to past a link or a formatted text (such as from a Word file) into an HTML 
email. Normal paste (crtl-V or right-click Paste) works.

 If I want to paste as plaintext, shift-crtl-V will still paste formatted, and 
right-click Paste as Plaintext is greyed out. So I always have to copy the text 
into Notepad and then copy from there into TheBat.

This started with the introduction of the new HTML editor.

Confirmations?

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Re: 9.3.4.2 - HTML cursor jumping

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Stefan,

On Thu, 3 Jun 2021 19:07:29 +0700 GMT (03-Jun-21, 19:07 +0700 GMT),
 Thomas Fernandez wrote:


> 1.  
> I am top-posting because I spoke too  fast: I deleted some text from the 
> quoted block, and now I cannot put the cursor under block any more, it does 
> jump into the sig.
>  I can now put the cursor under the block, so that is fixed. I am typing in 
> read now, because otherwise you wouldn't know that I am replying to this 
> paragraph == the green vertical line at the start of this line persists. It 
> should be broken the moment I hit  within the original text.

>  
> 2. The reason why I sent this reply is that the cursor jumping as desribed 
> below is still persisting.
>  
> Cursor jumping + no WYSIWYG = return to version with the old HTML editor.
>  
> On Sun, 2 May 2021 10:31:28 +0700 GMT (02-May-21, 10:31 +0700 GMT),
>  Thomas Fernandez wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 18:43:38 +0700 GMT (28-Apr-21, 18:43 +0700 GMT),
>>  Thomas Fernandez wrote:


 [-] New HTML Editor fixes: cursor jumping, selection issues, manual spell 
 checking, toolbar height in template editor (Alpha issues)

>>> Thanks, I will play with the editor and advise my findings.

>> I am creating this is HTML to stay on-topic. I found a number of problems, 
>> most are with the jumping cursor:

>> 1.) My reply template is as follows:

>>   ***
>> Hello %OFromFName,

>> %Cursor

>> %QInclude="mysig"

>> On%SETPATTREGEXP="(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))"%REGEXPMATCH="%HEADERS"
>>  GMT (%ODateShort, %OTime +0700 GMT),
>> %OFROMNAME wrote:

>> %Quotes 
>>  
>>   ***
>>  
>> a.) When I just start typing aftger hitting reply, everything is fine. 
>> However, in many cases, I first edit the word "Hallo" to show "Dear" 
>> instead. 
>>  
>> The I hit the  key twice in order to leave one blank line and start 
>> my reply. The cursor is not at the begining of the line but indented by one 
>> one character. When I start typing, the cursor moves down another line 
>> rather than starting where it was.
>> Whe I now hit enter, a line will be added as expected. When I hit enter 
>> again, no line will be added, the cursor just moves down. Mext time again, 
>> until it comes to the line where my sig starts, and then it behaves normally 
>> and also adds a line instead of just moving down.
This last problem still persists in 9.3.4.15, and it is reason for me to go 
back to the last release version.

0002125: Jumping cursor - Ritlabs Bug Tracker 

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Re: 9.3.4.14 HTML: Drag or pasting of pictures

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Jernej,

On Sat, 5 Jun 2021 17:03:37 +0200 GMT (05-Jun-21, 22:03 +0700 GMT),
 Jernej Simončič wrote:


> On Saturday, June 5, 2021, 04:00:06, Thomas Fernandez wrote:
>

>> Could you try with a .jpg file?
>  
> I can't paste a JPEG, because clipboard data is just a raw bitmap (and TB 
> itself [or, more likely CEF] converts it to PNG), and drag & drop doesn't 
> work (results in just a small blank square).
Fixed in 9.3.4.15.

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Re: 9.3.4.14 - File associations missing

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Stefan,

On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 10:00:05 +0700 GMT (04-Jun-21, 10:00 +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:

 This is a problem, as .MSG files are now suddenly associated with Outlook.

>>> The problem is, Microsoft took away this possibility from developers 
>>> because they were using it "too aggresively". Now, you should do it from 
>>> the "Default Apps" Windows settings.

>> Oh, I see. I just went to Settings, and there is no app associated with 
>> Email any more. So I clicked on the "+" and gopt a choice - which did not 
>> include TheBat.

>> So I went to "Choose by file type" where I had to scroll down to .msg 
>> (annoying that there is a search function), and again, I was given the 
>> choiuce of Notepad, Outlook and "Look at the MS store".

>> How do I assiciate TheBat now?

> Funny thing: I reinstalled the latest release version using the .msi file, 
> and now suddenly .msg files are associated with TheBat! again. Not with 
> Outlook any more, as was the case with the Alpha.

> So, there is something in the installation file that can indeed change the 
> file association.

> Options / Preferences / Associations  still does not show the options.

I see you added this link in 9.3.4.15. Thanks!

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