Re: v10 is now released

2022-05-07 Thread Ethan J. Mings
Saturday, May 7, 2022

Thanks for your email.  I've put my answers below.

Saturday, May 7, 2022, 10:01:29 AM, you wrote:

> It's one question, yes. I don't use exchange at all, nor Outlook. My system 
> calendar links to my Google calendar. I have to manually import any .ics 
> files using the Edge "App" for Google Calendar. Double-clicking an 
> appointment attachment used to open it in Windows Calendar. From the latest 
> build, TB has taken over handling them and does exactly the same job as 
> Windows calendar did - a bad one. The data is flattened and content is lost. 
> All that remains is the title and the time/date. For a teams meeting, it is 
> pretty useless. I have to export the file and manually import it to my 
> system/Google calendar.

> ... just to add an alternate and additional perspective.

Good perspective.

Bottom line, if one is using Exchange or Google, the Bat must be able to work 
with a serve based information.  IMAP is helpful, it does not go far enough in 
today's fast paced environment.

If Exchange and google synch are not added to the program, then the calender 
should be removed or allow users to turn it off.

Jerry




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Gmail SMTP

2022-05-07 Thread Jay Walker
I know everyone has probably heard this many times and figured it all out.
But I'm not finding the solution, and I am stumped for days.

Until now I've used Gmail with "less secure apps", and that worked fine for
me. Now, under the gun so to speak, I have disabled "less secure apps" and
set up OAUTH authentication. And this works fine for me when checking my
mail (POP3). But, try what I may, I cannot send mail via SMTP. My current
settings are:

SMTP Server: smtp.gmail.com
Connection: Secure to Dedicated port (TLS) (have also tried Regular and
StartTLS)
Port: 465
Authentication: Tried them all, but none seem to work

I keep getting error messages like: WantAuthError or warnings about "no
compatible authentication mechanisms detected".

Sorry to trouble you all... I know the focus is on TB10... but I could
really use some help here. What am I doing wrong or not doing right?
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Re: v10 is now released

2022-05-07 Thread Marck Pearlstone

On 07 May 2022 at 12:47 Ethan J. Mings wrote and made these points

... 
EJM>>> Also, it is picking up Microsoft Teams appointments when it should not.

>> I will second this. I received a teams appointment in an email yesterday and 
>> the calendar event created had discarded the link to join the meeting.

EJM> I think a real development question for the RIT labs is the question about 
exchange capability.  Most email clients today synch with Exchange servers in a 
seamless and effective manner.  Personally, while IMAP is ok, I would prefer my 
client to synch with exchange so that information on any device is accurate.  I 
dread looking at a calendar on one device only to find out its incorrect.

It's one question, yes. I don't use exchange at all, nor Outlook. My system 
calendar links to my Google calendar. I have to manually import any .ics files 
using the Edge "App" for Google Calendar. Double-clicking an appointment 
attachment used to open it in Windows Calendar. From the latest build, TB has 
taken over handling them and does exactly the same job as Windows calendar did 
- a bad one. The data is flattened and content is lost. All that remains is the 
title and the time/date. For a teams meeting, it is pretty useless. I have to 
export the file and manually import it to my system/Google calendar.

... just to add an alternate and additional perspective.

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TB! v10.0 on Windows 11 10.0.22000 

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Re: v10 is now released

2022-05-07 Thread Ethan J. Mings
Saturday, May 7, 2022

Thanks for your email.  I've put my answers below.

Saturday, May 7, 2022, 3:05:15 AM, you wrote:

EJM>> Also, it is picking up Microsoft Teams appointments when it should not.

> I will second this. I received a teams appointment in an email yesterday and 
> the calendar event created had discarded the link to join the meeting.


I think a real development question for the RIT labs is the question about 
exchange capability.  Most email clients today synch with Exchange servers in a 
seamless and effective manner.  Personally, while IMAP is ok, I would prefer my 
client to synch with exchange so that information on any device is accurate.  I 
dread looking at a calendar on one device only to find out its incorrect.

I realize some people don't want to be connected to a server all the time.  I 
would ask the team to give careful consideration to exchange server feature and 
the ability to turn off calendar as a choice.  

Finally, the bat does not have task features.  The power of tasks, along with 
calendar is the ability to synch across devices.  Another possible 
consideration to move to an allow the bat to connect to exchange for full 
synchronization capability. 

Jerry


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Re: v10 is now released

2022-05-07 Thread Marck Pearlstone

On 07 May 2022 at 01:01 Ethan J. Mings wrote and made these points

>> What do you mean by turning off and what is not working correctly?

EJM> The calendar feature does not work the Exchange server.  Therefore, the 
calendar is not useful or reliable for meeting appointments.

EJM> Also, it is picking up Microsoft Teams appointments when it should not.

I will second this. I received a teams appointment in an email yesterday and 
the calendar event created had discarded the link to join the meeting.

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