Voyager migratng help
Hello List, Here's one of those things that I recall reading about, thought Gee, that sound useful, but at the time I didn't have any need for it and the info has since slid out of my head. Someone here told of a method to use for Voyager where you could just copy the entire folder from a USB drive to your hard drive as needed. I seem to remember that it involved mostly one particular file that you need to name/rename depending on which drive it was that you were currently transferring the data to. Does this ring a bell with anyone? -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 4.1.11.1] [OS: Windows Vista 6 0] Current beta is 4.1.11.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager migratng help
Reply to message sent 3/28/2009, @ 19:13:42 (1:13 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Mackley, I am right ? Yes, but there was a work around with some file that once you registered it for each drive you could then copy it back and forth without needing to register it each time (if my memory is correct). I just can't recall what file that was and what or how it needed to be changed or renamed. Current beta is 4.1.11.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager migratng help
Reply to message sent 3/28/2009, @ 18:14:56 (1:14 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Hamish, - There is a tokenact.dat file... That's exactly what I was referring to. Thanks a lot! But... I got the following from Nick Danger some time ago. Did I really send this to you at some earlier date? Sheesh, if so then my memory is worse than I even thought it was. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 4.1.11.1] [OS: Windows Vista 6 0] Current beta is 4.1.11.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager
Reply to message sent 01/21/2009, @ 01:16:57 (5:16 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Maxim, We have also compiled the new Voyager: Works fine so far just running it through normal paces. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 4.1.11.1] [OS: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5 2] Current beta is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager 4.1.7.3
Reply to message sent 01/12/2009, @ 19:12:45 (12:12 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Peter, Your registration of The Bat! should work, provided you registered a pro version. I'm going to guess he's referring to the need to buy an upgrade with the jump in Voyager versions. Like the already mentioned gotcha with the upgrade, there is no warning that the new version of Voyager will require you to purchase an upgrade before you load it in. It didn't catch me totally by surprise since I've been following the beta list, but I can see where that's probably more exception than the norm. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 4.1.7.3] [OS: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5 2] Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Quick Template Image Help
Can this be done, and if so, how - as I can't seem to get it to work: My screen capture autosaves to ScreenCap.jpg I want to create a QuickTemplate where I can use it to insert the capture into an email as an inline picture. I realize I need to have the format as HMTL Only. I try creating a quicktemplate and using the insert image function, then selecting the file. It inserts it fine into the quicktemplate but when calling the template from inside a message it doesn't work for me. Any help, suggestions, or final word that it's impossible? TIA, -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 4.1.7.3] [OS: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5 2] Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager 4.1.7.3
Reply to message sent 01/05/2009, @ 18:22:50 (10:22 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Maxim, Please make a TBK backup with your Voyager and try the new version: Conversion appears at first glance to have been successful with no missing/empty folders that I've come across yet. More testing ahead... -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 4.1.7.3] [OS: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5 2] Current beta is 4.1.7.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: An irritating problem (edit message window)
Reply to message sent 10/21/2008, @ 16:12:43 (8:12 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Costas, When I create a new message the window is off screen to my right and I have to drag it to the left in order to center it. I confirm the problem happening with Voyager also. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 4.0.34] [OS: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5 2] Current beta is 4.0.34.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: An irritating problem (edit message window)
Reply to message sent 10/21/2008, @ 17:45:24 (9:45 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Costas, This is rather embarrassing for me :oops:, because I found the answer: Under the View menu, enable the Store window position. Thanks for bringing that to my attention! Fixed it for me also. Sure seems like that ought to be the default. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 4.0.34] [OS: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5 2] Current beta is 4.0.34.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager - backup - relative path
Reply to message sent 9/13/2008, @ 19:07:11 (12:07 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Martin, IMHO it makes no sense to store the backup files on drive C:\ Just to offer up a differing opinion... I backup my voyager files onto my main computer so the location is always the same. While there might be some merit to backing up to the USB drive Voyager is on, I'd suggest that's not the best idea as if the USB goes bad - there goes Voyager and your backups. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 4.0.34] [OS: Windows Vista 6 0] Current beta is 4.0.34.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager - small edit window glitch
Reply to message sent 09/12/2008, @ 10:22:39 (3:22 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Martin, Over here I have a small edit window glitch: The position of the edit window seems not to be stored. Confirmed. I use dual monitors at work and the window always opens up hanging off the left and extending partially into the right. I'll also add to this that Voyager acts funny when starting up on machines with different screen resolutions - often even changing window split mode by itself. When switching between work and home computers I have to resize the window and reset the split mode each time. Seems like it ought to be able to sense resolution and adapt accordingly. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 4.0.34] [OS: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5 2] Current beta is 4.0.34.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager, SmartBat
Reply to message sent 09/05/2008, @ 22:18:26 (3:18 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Michal, V There is no Minimize, Resize and Maximize icons at this window. V Only the X is visible. It's a tool type window, thus no additional icons. I have the full set of options available here. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 4.0.34] [OS: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5 2] Current beta is 4.0.34.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager 4.0.32.1 [Can't add addresses from editor]
Reply to message sent 08/23/2008, @ 21:11:44 (1:11 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Maxim, From inside the MicroEd editor, if I click on the address book icon to add addresses I get a window titled Pick e-mail addresses but all it shows is the current address and an option to manually type in additional address. There appears to be no way to reach my address book. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 4.0.32.1] [OS: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5 2] Current beta is 4.0.28.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager 4.0.32.1 [Can't add addresses from editor]
Reply to message sent 08/25/2008, @ 19:08:51 (12:08 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Henk, Try the little arrow to the right next to the address book.. I have no little arrow to the right, only to the left which is for adding an address to the address book. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 4.0.32.1] [OS: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5 2] Current beta is 4.0.28.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager 4.0.32.1 [Can't add addresses from editor]
Reply to message sent 08/25/2008, @ 21:45:47 (2:45 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Marek, check global.ini for [Address selector] and set for example Separator=282 That seems to fix it. Thanks for a work around! -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 4.0.32.1] [OS: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5 2] Current beta is 4.0.28.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Smart Bat New Pad
Not sure if this is a beta only problem but that's what I'm using so I'll report it here. If you pick the Smart Bat always on top option and try to make a new pad, the name file window opens up under the Smart Bat window rendering the program unusable. At least for me. Can anyone confirm whether this is more than an aberration I'm experiencing. (Unknown whether this might be a Voyager thing or not) Thanks, -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 4.0.24.12] [OS: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5 2] Current beta is 4.0.24.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Voyager 4.0.24.12 - Viewer Profiles (bug)
Viewer Profile selection does not stick. Voyager always resets to default profile upon start-up. Any confirmations? -- ò.ó Nick Danger Current beta is 4.0.24.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager 4.0.24.12 - Viewer Profiles (bug)
Reply to message sent 05/20/2008, @ 18:28:37 (11:28 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Krzysztof, What do you mean exactly? Pls - describe it step by step; Set up an alternate viewer profile: Options|Preferences|Message Viewer/Editor [New...] Change to that profile: View|Viewer Profile Close Voyager. Open Voyager. Profile has been reset to default. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 4.0.24.12] [OS: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5 2] Current beta is 4.0.24.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Damaged folders in Voyager
Reply to message sent 04/18/2008, @ 08:33:06 (1:33 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Maurice, I'm experiencing a lot of problems with damaged folders in my Voyager installation. 1) What can I do to prevent this from happening again? 2) What is the best procedure to restore Voyager from a backup? I'm afraid I can't really help with the questions but I can state I have lived through this also. It seems once a folder gets corrupted somehow it's lights out and there's no fixing it. I had to finally just delete the folders that were giving me problems and start over with them. I spent days fooling with them and in the end I lost messages. Backups didn't help as every time I restored a backup I just got the corrupted folders back. I never mentioned it here as I have no idea what causes them to go bad. If it was repeatable I'd have hoisted a flag, but since it just happens out of the blue it's hard to report a specific problem. Although, it is at times like this that I wish encryption with Voyager was optional. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 4.0.18.4] [OS: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5 2] Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager: new filter doesn't work
Reply to message sent 04/02/2008, @ 20:42:18 (1:42 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Peter, has anyone tried to create a new filter in the latest Voyager? Just created a new one and tested it. It worked fine here. (filter on sender address, send to different folder) -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 4.0.18.4] [OS: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5 2] Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager 4.0.18.4
Reply to message sent 03/19/2008, @ 09:36:41 (8:36 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Vili, - if a folder contains e.g. 1000 messages, it shows the content of that folder slower than before. For seconds, the mail list pane is empty... Can't confirm. I have 5 folders with 1K messages and can flip between them and the last message displays almost instantly here. In other news... trying to correct my common filter issue over the weekend I ended up with a lot of corrupted folders and decided to just do a fresh install of Voyager. Having cleared out the registry of any RIT stuff I installed Voyager and with nothing but that welcome message in there I had a flapping bat instead of a spinning compass. Again, it doesn't bother me but it sure is weird how I get that. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 4.0.18.4] [OS: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5 2] Current beta is 4.0.18.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager 4.0.18.4
Reply to message sent 03/19/2008, @ 10:05:50 (9:05 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Vili, It happens after new mails arrive into that box. I forgot to mention it. Just so happens one of those folders is this beta folder, and when I just checked it for your message it opened right up. My flappin' bat is faster than your spinnin' compass! ;-) -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 4.0.18.4] [OS: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5 2] Current beta is 4.0.18.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Common Filters lose share
Just started today, all my common filters lose their sharing checks on shutdown. Each time I restart Voyager all the shared boxes are cleared. (of which I have about 70) The only thing even remotely different was go through a few folders and set them for max time to keep messages and remove old messages on close. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 4.0.18] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.18: Two TB! entries in Task Manager
Reply to message sent 03/14/2008, @ 23:14:07 (11:14 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Thomas, I have two entries for The Bat! in the task manager under Tasks. There is only one entires under Processes. Is that normal? I can't answer to how normal it is, but I use Powerpro's virtual desktops and it has two entries on there also. For what that's worth. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 4.0.18] [OS: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5 2] Current beta is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager v4: Bug: SmartBat
Reply to message sent 03/13/2008, @ 13:17:15 (7:17 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Kertész, I open SmartBat (F6) and there are no Tabs on the bottom of the window to be able to select different notepads. If I switch to the Scheduler and back, the tabs reappear. Confirmation? Can't confirm. Here tabs are visible upon first opening. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 4.0.18] [OS: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5 2] Current beta is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager v4: Bug: SmartBat
Reply to message sent 03/13/2008, @ 09:12:26 (8:12 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Vili, Would you try to download again and see if maybe it is a different install? Done. Still flapping and have smartbat tabs on opening. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 4.0.18] [OS: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5 2] Current beta is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message viewer/editor quirks.
Reply to message sent 03/12/2008, @ 15:27:49 (8:27 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Maxim, Please test other capabilities and let us know the results! Thanks! Up and running with the following observed so far: Message viewer/editor: Custom profile changes to quoted text does not take affect till restart. Changes made to default profile do take affect right away. Also, if profile is changed to a custom profile upon restart profile does not stick but is reset to default. Really minor and one I'm not sure of: You have mail tray animation is flapping bat, which seems odd to me so I'm thinking it used to have been the Voyager compass spinning? I honestly can't remember right now. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 4.0.18] [OS: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5 2] Current beta is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message viewer/editor quirks.
Reply to message sent 03/12/2008, @ 18:44:57 (12:44 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Peter, Yes, it's the spinning compass here. Did you do a new installation? Nope, I installed over the existing app. Weird. Not that big of thing, and actually I think I like the flap over the spin! Just figured I'd bring it up as an oddity for bug reporting purposes. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 4.0.18] [OS: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5 2] Current beta is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager v4 published!
Reply to message sent 03/11/2008, @ 10:38:29 (9:38 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Vili, So, this is the headline, I would like to read That's just cruel. I glanced at that subject line, my eyes got wide and my pants started dancing around the room. Then I opened the post and put the gun barrel against my temple. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.99.8] [OS: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5 2] Current beta is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager v4 published!
Reply to message sent 03/11/2008, @ 11:45:41 (10:45 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Vili, Are you from TX? As a matter of fact I am! Seriously: I think, we should ask for a Voyager. The slow shutdown really pisses me off, and I would be grateful for the new improvements also. What file system are you using with Voyager? I'd swear we discussed this awhile ago (maybe a long while ago?) and found that Fat32 vs NTFS made a difference on shutdown. NTFS being fast vs. Fat32 being slow. Of course, I could be remembering this all wrong - what with the shock and disappointment of your original post and all. ;) -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.99.8] [OS: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5 2] Current beta is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager v4 published!
Reply to message sent 03/11/2008, @ 19:15:49 (1:15 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Mark, Personally I still haven't tried it out yet because ... Only Fools Tolerate Encryption ... even if one isn't stupid enough to rely on a soon to die piece of hardware Exactly what are you implying here? People that use Voyager are stupid fools? -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.99.8] [OS: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5 2] Current beta is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Voyager's future.
Hello, Is the Voyager version of TB! going to continue on into version 4, or will it be a casualty of progress? Thanks for any info. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.99.8] [OS: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5 2] Current beta is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager's future.
Reply to message sent 02/07/2008, @ 16:54:42 (8:54 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Maxim, We will release Voyager V4 Good news. after fixing important bugs of The Bat! V4. Even better news! Thanks. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.99.8] [OS: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5 2] Current beta is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Interface Inconsistencies
Reply to message sent 08/22/2007, @ 17:06:17 (4:06 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Indie_Dev, And if I breached anonymity and told the list who I was, you'd know that apart from being a highly trained and well respected developer, that I'm probably the _last_ person you'd want to be messing with at the personal [attack] level. Steve? Steve Lamb? Have you returned? -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.99.8] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager 3.99.8
Reply to message sent 05/31/2007, @ 21:18:52 (1:18 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Maxim, What's new in The Bat! Voyager 3.99.8 comparing to The Bat! Voyager 3.99.4? I've not given it a super close inspection but been running it for 24 hours now under normal work load and no hiccups. Regards, -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.99.8] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Voyager - a break through moment.
The one major complaint I've had with using Voyager was that it took around 15 minutes for it to clear itself from Window's processes after shutting it down. If I shut it down and suddenly remembered something I needed it for I had to go in and manually stop it before I could restart Voyager. Anyway... I found out the culprit, and it kills me that it was so easy that I've struggled with it this long. The solution? I reformatted my USB drive to NTFS. I'm guessing it came formatted as FAT as I never bothered to reformat it upon buying it. Running it as NTFS, I can close Voyager down and it closes and clears memory faster almost instantaneously. So if anyone else has had this problem of voyager.exe hanging around in memory for far too long, check to see how your USB drive is formatted - it may make a difference. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.99.4] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager - a break through moment.
Reply to message sent 05/21/2007, @ 11:02:29 (10:02 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Vili, I think, it was not the FAT/NTFS change. It was the fact that when you reformatted the drive, you inherently defragmented the drive. Well, I was about to say I didn't think so as I had defragged the drive before hoping that would help but it didn't. But before sending off that post I figured I'd try some actual testing and reformatted back to FAT to see what would happened. Fired up Voyager, and quit - and sure enough it just sat there hanging around in memory until I went in and killed it myself. So I can confidently say that at least in my case the change to NTFS solved the problem. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.99.4] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager - a break through moment.
Reply to message sent 05/21/2007, @ 16:27:20 (11:27 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Doug, How many Voyager lives did you use up in this test? It seems that every time I reformat my drive, I have to reactivate the key. I think I am down to one or two activations left, so I am not eager to procede with the reformat to NTFS, even though I've been wanting to do this for some time. Just one. As the drive ID includes format I needed a new one for the NTFS format. Other than that I just change the volume ID number back to what it was before reformatting. I use both a USB stick and USB external drive but have them both ID'd the same so I can just update whatever drive I want to use with my current Voyager installation and run with it. HTH -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.99.4] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager - a break through moment.
Reply to message sent 05/21/2007, @ 21:27:25 (2:27 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Mark, Are you talking about a USB HD or a USB memory stick? Memory stick, but it was purchasing a USB hard drive that brought the problem to light. I formatted the hard drive to remove all the preinstalled stuff I didn't want and then changed the volume ID. When Voyager needed to be reactivated, that's what caused me to realize I never formatted my USB stick and it was FAT. So to make it easy to swap Voyager back and forth I formatted my stick to NTFS and BAM! I noticed how quickly Voyager suddenly exited memory. I didn't format the hard drive to FAT to see if that caused Voyager to hang on it. Mainly because I already have a bunch of stuff on it and don't feel like dealing with the hassle. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.99.4] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing
I've noticed an appreciable slow down when trying to print out an email with this latest release. Time from invoking the print command till the print window appears is 20-25 seconds whereas in previous versions it was 5 or less. Anyone else notice this phenomenon? -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.99.4] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.99.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Protocol log bug
Reply to message sent 05/07/2007, @ 10:39:43 (9:39 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Vili, Anybody using Voyager: does the POP3 protocol logging works for you? I don't normally use it so I went and enabled it, did a manual mail check and looked at the log file. It seemed to be logging darn near everything that happened. If there was anything in particular you wanted checked out in the log let me know. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.99.4] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.99.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager 3.99.4
Reply to message sent 04/29/2007, @ 22:51:23 (2:51 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Maxim, [-] List of files in the pop-up menu in the attachment panel was improperly displayed (as a edit-combo box) Also fixed pop-up wackiness in spell check and account picker. Nice job! -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.99.4] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.99.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager 3.99.3
Reply to message sent 04/26/2007, @ 08:16:35 (1:16 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Krzysztof, I recived messages with attachment/s but... I don't understand function of windows shown - see in attached screen. Confirmed, when attachments are hidden to button. Do you also get this type of blank menu window when you right click on a misspelled word? -- ň.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.99.3] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.99.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager 3.99.3
Reply to message sent 04/25/2007, @ 13:35:32 (5:35 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Maxim, Voyager 3.99.3 Installed cleanly. Noticed Options|Preferences|Other Options finally fixed! Don't care for the new popout menu for changing accounts on the fly (via bottom menu bar) [*] Significantly improved speed of working with attachments Noticeably! Oops, misspelling that made me notice that right clicking on a misspelled word brings up a blank suggesting list and you must click suggest more to get to corrections. Way more cumbersome than previous implementation. More comments as I use it throughout the day. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.99.3] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.99.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving on.
Reply to message sent 04/23/2007, @ 15:23:22 (4:23 PM Locally) ~~~ Good bye Leif, I'm officially hanging up my moderator hat and my list member subscriptions As a silent but long time member let me add my thanks and good luck wishes. Also, in a bit of nostalgia, let me add as a snicker the sig line from my favorite protagonist poster of the past: I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your main connection to the switchboard of souls. Cheers! -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.98.6] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.99.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager 3.98.6
Reply to message sent 03/23/2007, @ 17:07:27 (11:07 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Marek, when was installation finished, system reported error in thebat.exe, error message attached. When I started thebat.exe manually after this, it started normally. I had the exact same experience here. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.98.6] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.98.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager 3.98.6
Reply to message sent 03/23/2007, @ 23:38:23 (5:38 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Zygmunt, Another problem is lack of Update section in Preferences (see attached picture). As a consequence, the remain sections are shifted and reference wrong settings. Confirmed as not fixed. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.98.6] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.98.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager bug, 3.95.06
Reply to message sent 02/23/2007, @ 09:08:29 (8:08 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Vili, After starting Voyager, the very first time I click on an email to write a new mail, it gives me a No disk in drive error. Can't confirm, and I regularly use Voyager on three different computers. (all using XP, should that matter) -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.95.06] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.96.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager hanging on mail check?
Reply to message sent 01/05/2007, @ 15:49:19 (3:49 PM Locally) ~~~ I've been using Voyager 3.95.06 and over the last couple of days noticed that TB!began hanging after a few mail checks I've been closely motoring this for the past couple of weeks and think I've come to a conclusion the problem is/was part local and part TB!. The reason TB! was hanging is that I was getting internet drops during its checks. That's the local portion of the problem. The TB! part is that once it hung up due the drop TB! never cleared itself, even with manual help in trying to abort the task. With that, there was no way to exit TB! without going into task manager and stopping it. It was just an odd coincidence that the intermittent connection problems I was having corresponded to upgrading to the latest Voyager beta. Once the connection stabilized the hanging wasn't a problem anymore since TB! could complete the connection uninterrupted. So I'm calling it a non-beta issue and just a continuation of the long standing problem of TB! hanging if it runs into some kind of issue while connecting and the user being unable to affect it at that point. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.95.06] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Voyager hanging on mail check?
Okay, this is going to be kinda vague and I don't have much in the way of empirical data on this, but this is what's happening to me: I've been using Voyager 3.95.06 and over the last couple of days noticed that TB!began hanging after a few mail checks with messages such as: 01/05/2007, 12:56:45: FETCH - receiving mail messages !01/05/2007, 12:57:14: FETCH - Could not connect to the server 01/05/2007, 13:00:45: FETCH - receiving mail messages 01/05/2007, 13:01:36: FETCH - Couldn't connect to 64.233.185.109 trying subsequent addresses... 01/05/2007, 13:01:46: FETCH - Connecting to 64.233.185.111... !01/05/2007, 13:02:00: FETCH - Could not connect to the server coming up in the log. Checking the Connection Centre would show all my accounts in continual check mode with times listed from the first check fail and counting up. For the heck of it I went back to 3.85.03 and haven't had a hang on check since. For what it's worth, these accounts are all gmail accounts. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.85.03] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager: Cookies don't work any more
Reply to message sent 01/04/2007, @ 18:25:00 (11:25 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Peter, something has changed with Voyager's handling of %COOKIES. I used to refer to the cookies.txt file by the relative path and it worked. Don't think I can confirm. I use the following in a QT: %COOKIE=%ProgramDir\smartbat\comments.txt: and it still works fine. Is that how you are referring to the relative path? -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.95.06] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager: Cookies don't work any more
Reply to message sent 01/04/2007, @ 21:19:42 (2:19 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Peter, No, I didn't use %ProgramDir before. But now I do and it works fine. That's what I was after. Thank you! :) It's nice to finally be of use to someone after all these years of hanging around the community! -- ò.ó Nick Danger Who's hoping this doesn't constitute enough for a TBOT trouting. [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.95.06] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager 3.95.06
Reply to message sent 01/02/2007, @ 12:07:33 (11:07 AM Locally) ~~~ I have not yet found anything that does not function flawlessly and quickly. Am I the only one that has the Options|Preferences menu acting wacky with everything below Other options are out of whack? It's been this way with this and the release previous to this for me. But fine with any version prior to those. I swear I thought others had stated the problem but I've slept many times since then and may be recalling things wrong. Thanks for any confirmation or lack thereof. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.95.06] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager 3.95.06
Reply to message sent 01/02/2007, @ 20:34:50 (1:34 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Peter, Confirmed, the Updates entry appears to be missing from the tree on the left side. I wonder if it's an XP thing then since Paul doesn't see this problem and he's running 2K. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.95.06] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager 3.95.06
Reply to message sent 01/02/2007, @ 15:32:27 (2:32 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Paul, It is available at [Other Options]. See Attached. But are all the nested menus under there okay? For at least three of us they are out of sync with smart bat functions missing. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.95.06] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager 3.95.06
Reply to message sent 01/02/2007, @ 16:04:47 (3:04 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Paul, Confirmed. I never looked beyond seeing Updates had moved down to other options but I agree it is the missing Updates entry that is the cause. I couldn't find an existing entry in bug tracker (but I'll admit to being pretty lost as to how to do a thorough search) so I submitted one on this issue: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6158 Hopefully I didn't botch protocol too awfully bad. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.95.06] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager 3.95.06
Reply to message sent 12/28/2006, @ 15:39:59 (7:39 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Maxim, Please try Voyager 3.95.06 It installed fine but the other options menu items in preferences are still messed up as they were in 3.85.06 They are fine in 3.85.03. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.95.06] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat Voyager
Reply to message sent 10/21/2006, @ 15:06:48 (3:06 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Raymond, I installed this version when it was posted here by Max and it just seems to decay over time. As I stated in am earlier post I had to bail on it also as it seemed to lock up or at the very least grab way too much CPU time after a couple hours of running. I know that was it as whenever my machine started slowing to a crawl if I went in and manually killed voyager.exe everything was back up to speed immediately. Have never seen that problem with 3.85.03 -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.85.03] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: voyager_install-3-86-03.exe
Reply to message sent 10/15/2006, @ 17:36:23 (9:36 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Maxim, Could you please test I know this isn't going to be terribly informative but I wanted to at least report it: This version locks up for me after about two hours. Since loading it up yesterday I've had to manually stop the program and restart it every 2-3 hours. I've rolled back to previous version which has been very reliable for me. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.85.03] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: voyager_install-3-86-03.exe
Reply to message sent 10/15/2006, @ 17:36:23 (9:36 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Maxim, Could you please test The Other options menus under preferences is all out of sequence here. Any confirmations? -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.86.03] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: voyager_install-3-86-03.exe
Reply to message sent 10/17/2006, @ 08:08:48 (8:08 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Stuart, Sorry, missed the fact that you were talking about voyager. Ah! Thought I had a local gremlin going as I had reinstalled and still had the problem. Then reverted back to previous version and it went away. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.86.03] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Possible bug
Reply to message sent 08/31/2006, @ 09:35:01 (10:35 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Leif, http://xn--ovg.com/watermark If you open the above URL in a browser (at least FF and IE) directly, it works fine. However, if you click on it from an e-mail from within TB, I always get an invalid URL error in the browser (FF). Works fine here from within Voyager. For what that's worth. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.81.14] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.81.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager: 3.80.04 version, SmartBat
Reply to message sent 08/16/2006, @ 11:01:39 (10:01 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Vili, I have the public version, and I have two annoying things in SmartBat. (Is there a Voyager Beta out there?) Not that I've been privy to. 1. Sometimes I cannot change between tabs. I click on the name of the next Tab, nothing happens... Yep, if you make any changes to a file you will not be able to tab away from it. 2. I write something in it, and press Esc. Data was not saved. Would you like to abandon changes?. If I hit Yes, that actually saves the data... Also confirmed. When I first mentioned this months ago I was told it was being taken care of but there has not been Voyager release since then so I have no confirmation of that. Not a show stopper, but annoying as heck. Especially since I use that wacky little thing (Smartbat) quite a bit. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.80.04] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Smart Bat Problems v/ Voyager 3.80.04
Reply to message sent 05/10/2006, @ 17:16:07 (10:16 AM Locally) ~~~ yes, I have already asked Stef to fix it. Does anyone know if this has been fixed? And if so, has there been any version released since then that I may have missed? This bug is advancing beyond the annoying stage for me at this point. Thanks, -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.80.04] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.81.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.81.03 BETA (Voyager?)
Reply to message sent 06/13/2006, @ 16:02:45 (8:02 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Maxim, [-] (#0005877) Voyager wants to download normal TB! when checking for updates Is there a beta version of Voyager available to test? Thanks, -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.80.04] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.81.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Smart Bat Problems v/ Voyager 3.80.04
I just installed Voyager 3.80.04 and am having Smart Bat act funky. If I open it up and do anything to one of the pads I can't switch to another pad, and if I try to exit I get this message: Data was not saved. Do you wish to abandon changes? Yes/No/Cancel If I click Yes is closes and if I reopen the changes I made are still there, but the real sticking point is that it's impossible to changes more than one pad per session as I can't jump between pages. Can anyone confirm (I'm guessing this is Voyager specific, if it's not just a me problem.) Thanks -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.80.04] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TheBat and Voyager updates
Reply to message sent 05/01/2006, @ 20:35:04 (8:35 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Thomas, I would certainly like an indication of the version number on the download website. Yep, I did the same hunt this morning myself. An additional version number in the file number (like with the main program) would be appreciated. Seconded. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.72.03] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: release candidate
Reply to message sent 04/26/2006, @ 09:30:09 (8:30 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Vili, Because it affects corporate users VERY MUCH, please include this fix in the RC. I would like to toss my support to this proposal. This bug has also caught me with messages I thought had been sent to customers still sitting in my outbox when I've been called and reminded that they had not yet received a promised communication. [and please include in the next Voyager release] I love my Voyager! -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.72.03] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.72.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: what is going on with AntiSpamSniper?
Reply to message sent 04/20/2006, @ 15:04:52 (8:04 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Krzysztof, is this plugin developed further? I have no idea about that, but wanted to thank you for bringing this program to my attention. I've been trying to find an anti-spam filter that could run on a USB drive! I'm testing the puppy out now. Much thanks! -- ò.ó Nick Danger Current beta is 3.72.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Exchange server - not auto sending w/ mail check.
After extensive testing I can confirm the following: If while you're editing a message an auto mailcheck takes place, the message you're editing will just sit in the outbox and will not be sent. If you send the message before an autocheck happens the message will be properly sent. This is completely reproducible without fail for me. This is using MAPI protocol only. I've not noticed this with any other setting. I think it was Vili that first mentioned this, can anyone else using MAPI confirm? Thanks, -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.70.06 Beta] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.70.09 'Qigong' | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Exchange server - not auto sending w/ mail check.
Reply to message sent 02/15/2006, @ 09:08:08 (9:08 AM Locally) ~~~ Earlier I wrote After extensive testing After even further testing I think I've narrowed it down even more. There must be a saved (auto or manual) copy in the outbox when the mail check takes place. As I had my autosave set at 20 seconds this was pretty much a given combo for me, but further testing and playing around seems to have given me an optional work-around by setting the autosave feature out of useful range. Of course, I might lose a lot of work if something happens to my message I'm editing and there's no save, but it may be better than forgetting and having a message roosting in the outbox when I thought it was sent. Anyway, if any MAPI users have some spare time and would like to test out my findings I'd appreciate any comments - if anyone can confirm I'll submit a bug report. Thanks, -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.70.06 Beta] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.70.09 'Qigong' | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MAPI, mail is not sent - Nick Danger's issue
Reply to message sent 02/08/2006, @ 17:22:52 (4:22 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Vili, I think, the reason is this: you hit the Send button, but I have automatic checking, and if the automatic check starts before, during, or shortly after I hit the Send button, the mail wont be sent... Sounds like you might be onto something. I will check it out when I get some play around time. Thanks for idea. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.70.06 Beta] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.70.08 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Quick Template Using Hotkey
Reply to message sent 02/06/2006, @ 21:26:40 (8:26 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Paul, Every time it backspaces over the last word typed on a line or goes to the beginning of the line when only spaces or tabs are in front of it. It behaves normally when used from the Utilities Menu. Confirmations? Let's see, inserted via keyboard: This is a QT line Inserted via menu: This is a QT line Hmmm, seems to work fine here. Sorry. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.70.06 Beta] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MAPI/Exchange send hiccup
Reply to message sent 02/01/2006, @ 18:35:03 (5:35 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Vili, Hmm... I never had this problem before. What does the server/SMTP detailed log say? Just had this happen again. Checked the log and there's no mention of it ever trying to send it, not from the initial send command, nor from just sitting in the outbox. Once I hit the send queued mail button though it took off. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.70.06 Beta] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
MAPI/Exchange send hiccup
Hello TBbeta, My one quirk I've noticed in using MAPI and exchange server is that once in awhile a sent message hangs out in the outbox and doesn't go. I'll suddenly notice it camping out and have to manually resend it to get it out the door and on its way. I do not have delayed send, but do have confirm immediate send - so I do respond Yes to the Send? question, but apparently sometimes TB! thinks better of it and decides to ignore my preference. I can't pinpoint exactly when this started happening but I've noticed it for quite a few months now - before I began using Voyager for sure. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.70.06 Beta] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.70.06 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager spam filtering
Reply to message sent 01/26/2006, @ 19:05:24 (12:05 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Krzysztof, Regula Color me stupid, but I have no idea what that means. A quick Google doesn't do much to clarify. -- ò.ó Nick Danger Current beta is 3.70.03 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager spam filtering
Reply to message sent 01/26/2006, @ 23:28:44 (4:28 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Volker, That's the name of such a plugin: Website (German): http://www.gaijin.at/tbpregula.php Thanks, but as my German is strictly limited to board game terms I'm pretty much out of luck there. -- ò.ó Nick Danger Current beta is 3.70.03 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Voyager spam filtering
Hello TBeta, Is there a spam plugin or program that will work with Voyager? As in, doesn't install any needed components to the hard drive? Thanks, -- òžó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.65.02] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.70.02 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Mod: DEAD HORSE (was: The Bat! 3.70.02 Qigong is now available)
Reply to message sent 01/24/2006, @ 15:03:02 (2:03 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Paul, I run Voyager on a PIII 750 w/ 1 gig RAM and the flash drive connected to a USB 1.1 port (motherboard is too old for USB 2) and experience nothing like you describe. Just for balance, I run voyager via a USB 2 port and on shutting down the USB drive light remains on for nearly five minutes before TB completely unloads. I'll vouch for it being a PITA. -- òžó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.65.02] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.70.02 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager 3.64
Reply to message sent 12/22/2005, @ 19:41:36 (12:41 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Eddie, Probably some have their Christmas spoiled and will not Voyage(r) I have to say, though it was very quirky (at least for me) to get it up and running, now that it is it's a great gift! For someone who goes between a work computer and four different computers at home - it's something I've been wishing for. -- òžó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.64.01] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.63.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager cookies
Reply to message sent 12/06/2005, @ 22:42:51 (3:42 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Roelof, %ProgramDir Do you know if there's anyway to use that in the Run external action filter? I played around with it and wasn't able to get it to work, but I was guessing at what might the correct syntax. Thanks, -- Fly for now, òžó Nick Danger [MUA: The Bat! v3.63.07 (BETA)] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager - I'm crying Uncle.
Reply to message sent 12/05/2005, @ 20:44:25 (1:44 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Robert, Get rid of that and let everything be relative to the General Mail Directory, and it works. Wow, what an adventure that turned out to be! I changed the directory of all my accounts to be defaulted to the normal mail folder. Suddenly TB crashed. Big time. Wouldn't start back up. Rebooted. Still no luck. Ran MSI repair. Nothing. Oh-oh. I had to do a complete uninstall and reinstall. Finally got Pro installed and running but guess what - I could never get my common filters loaded into Pro. I'm guessing there's a real problem associated with common filters and converting to Pro or Voyager. For giggles, since I was already in up to my neck, I added some new common filters to Pro and tried to get Voyager up and running. Well, changing my mail folders back to default did indeed fix the problem of Voyager trying to access stuff that didn't exist and I got all my accounts loaded and intact - but the new common filters I created in Pro didn't make the transfer. So I'm stuck rebuilding hundreds of common filters. After all this, I have these words for Ritlabs about Voyager: They really need to work out how to do a backup and restore from a program that is *not* using the default settings - I can't be the only person that was not using them. They also need to figure out what's happening with common filters. Still, overall I am very happy to have Voyager running - even if I have a lot of filter rebuilding ahead of me. -- Fly for now, òžó Nick Danger [MUA: The Bat! v3.63.07 (BETA)] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Voyager cookies
Is there any way to refer to a text file for cookies in Voyager without specifying a drive designation? Thanks, -- Fly for now, òžó Nick Danger [MUA: The Bat! v3.63.07 (BETA)] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager cookies
Reply to message sent 12/06/2005, @ 20:51:38 (1:51 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Peter, Maybe we need to be able to enter virtual/relative folders, like %maildir% or %programdir%. Yeah, it would also be nice for using filters to run external programs also located on the portable drive. -- ò.ó Nick Danger Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager cookies
Reply to message sent 12/06/2005, @ 22:42:51 (3:42 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Roelof, %ProgramDir BINGO! Thanks Roelof. -- ò.ó Nick Danger Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager cookies
Reply to message sent 12/06/2005, @ 22:42:51 (3:42 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Roelof, %ProgramDir Odd. It works fine when called directly, but doesn't seem to work when nested and called via a %QINCLUDE macro. -- ò.ó Nick Danger Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Voyager - I'm crying Uncle.
Well, I spent the better part of the weekend and this morning playing around trying to get Voyager to a useable point and am tossing in the towel. Here's my laundry list of woes: When trying to restore a backup from my main TB! program Voyager insists on writing the directories using the original path. So in my original mail folder I end up with all the normal files along with encrypted folders along side. If I make the original path unreadable all I get is errors in Voyager telling me it can't write to it - which it shouldn't be doing anyway! I have not been able to get any common filters copied over to it. If I just copy the folders from my main program over to the USB drive and try to point Voyager to use that as the home for a new account it doesn't recognize any of the content in those folders and just creates a new empty account. In trying countless numbers of restores to be able to use my existing folders, filters, etc. I would often end up getting .exe errors where the only way to get Voyager working again was to wipe it out completely and start over again fresh. On some fresh installs I would end up with a program that wouldn't allow any additions to filters. Any changes I made were lost between sessions. As a long time user of TB! I'm well aware of things not being user friendly and needing a pioneer spirit to work with the program but Voyager has kicked my ass. I upgraded to Pro just for the use of Voyager as it's the program I've been waiting for. Hopefully, it's just a matter of waiting a little longer and not a sign of how hard it might be to get all the years of getting TB! to work the way I want it transferred over to a mobile app. While I know the above sounds like a lot of complaining, it's coming more from days of frustration and I wrote it mainly to let Max and company know there's someone who is not having a good experience with the program and that there might be real problems with people trying to do a simple backup and restore from TB! to Voyager. -- Fly for now, òžó Nick Danger [MUA: The Bat! v3.62.14] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager - I'm crying Uncle.
Reply to message sent 12/05/2005, @ 19:55:24 (12:55 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Roelof, ND When trying to restore a backup from my main TB! program Voyager ND insists on writing the directories using the original path. Can't confirm that. Yeah, I keep seeing the messages where people say that the restore to TBV went fine. Believe me I'm envious! So you weren't using OTFE, that's a difference with me. To be honest, I haven't a clue how to convert to OTFE. I just received my Pro registration and loaded up the latest .msi from Ritlabs over my home version. There was no option about converting that I've seen and no option in the menus. But yeah, the files/folders I backed up were not encrypted. Did you have all of your accounts stored in the same mail directory or were they in different locations? All the accounts are under one folder called mail. ND I have not been able to get any common filters copied over to it. Can't comment on that as I don't use those. Unfortunately, that all I use. Hundreds of them! ND If I just copy the folders from my main program over to the USB drive ND and try to point Voyager to use that as the home for a new account it ND doesn't recognize any of the content in those folders and just creates ND a new empty account. I guess that could be because of the unencrypted format of your current accounts, Probably. So... what's the trick to converting to OTFE in Pro? What version did you use? All of my tests were run with the first voyager.zip extracted and the latest beta put on top of it. That's exactly how I've been testing for the last twenty tries or so. Maybe it's the encypted/non-encrypted thing that creating problems. I'd love to convert my Pro over and give it another shot. -- Fly for now, òžó Nick Danger [MUA: The Bat! v3.62.14] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager - I'm crying Uncle.
Reply to message sent 12/05/2005, @ 20:44:25 (1:44 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Robert, What is your setting for Home Directory in Account Properties/Files Directories. Did you speficy a complete path or are you using Default. I have Default for each account and just a Mail Directory set in Preferences/System. A complete path. Because. and this is why I want Voyager so badly, I have the mail directories on a USB drive - not below the folder with all of TB's executables. I bet you have a hard coded path in your Account properties. Get rid of that and let everything be relative to the General Mail Directory, and it works. I guess I can try copying all my mail folders to the default position and try that. What's another hour or so after a wasted weekend! Keep your fingers crossed. -- Fly for now, òžó Nick Danger [MUA: The Bat! v3.62.14] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager - mobility?
Reply to message sent 12/3/2005, @ 01:20:44 (5:20 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Maxim, It's completely mobile. What's the problem? For me, when I try to run it on another computer I get errors as it's looking for the folders on drive letters that don't exist. In looking at the home directory in the configuration for my accounts it references I:\TB\mail\gmail. There is no drive labeled I on the other computer and all I got was errors messages references not being able to find the folder on the I drive. -- Nick Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager - QuickTemplate Error
Reply to message sent 12/3/2005, @ 00:42:40 (5:42 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Roelof, What version are you using? I had that error while using TBV 3.63.2.0 I upgraded to the recent beta and the quick template problem was fixed. Thanks. -- Nick Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Voyager - Filters
Can anyone tell me what file the filter information (specifically common filters) is kept in for Voyager? I can't seem to create any common files and wanted to wipe out that file and see if that helps. Thanks, -- Nick Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Voyager - mobility?
Hey all, I have Voyager up and running but when I took my USB drive and plugged it into another computer and then ran Voyager all I got was a plethora of error messages that it couldn't open folders as it was looking for a drive letter that didn't exist. This can't be right - I'm hoping! Ideas of what I might be doing wrong? -- Nick Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Voyager - QuickTemplate Error
Hello again, When I try to add/edit a quick template I get the following error: Ancestor for 'TBXPopupMenu' not found. Ideas? Thanks, -- Nick Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: A TBV preference question
Reply to message sent 12/3/2005, @ 16:26:03 (9:26 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Claude, Do you confirm this ? Now that is one the things that is working correctly for me. So I can't confirm that. -- Nick Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: A TBV preference question
Reply to message sent 12/3/2005, @ 09:43:25 (9:43 AM Locally) ~~~ Now that is one the things that is working correctly for me. So I can't confirm that. However, any changes I make to my filters are not saved from session to session. -- Nick Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Voyager - Filter assignments
An update on filters not keeping changes... It seems to be a bit more specific at least in my case. If I make any changes specifying to what accounts certain common filters are assigned, the changes are lost upon exiting Voyager. Thanks. -- Fly for now, òžó Nick Danger [MUA: The Bat! v3.63.07 (BETA)] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Message Format Option
Hi All, I just noticed an oddity that I don't recall seeing mentioned before. If you start a new message, change accounts using the bottom menu bar, the Message Format option under the options menu vanishes and is no longer an option. Can anyone confirm? -- Fly for now, ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: The Bat! v3.61.05 Echo (Beta)] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.61.06 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Message Format Option
Reply to message sent 9/22/2005, @ 21:33:02 (2:33 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Charlene, so I tested it with a new mail -same result. So: no confirmation. Interesting. I reloaded v3.61.06 (which is a show stopper for me because of the printing problem) and I still had the option disappear upon account switching. One confirmation, one mine works fine - you're nuts. What will be the tie breaker? -- Fly for now, ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: The Bat! v3.61.05 Echo (Beta)] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.61.06 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.04 BETA
Reply to message sent 9/13/2005, @ 10:39:11 (10:39 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Stuart, If this means reply to selected text when replying with HTML to an HTML e-mail, then it only partly works. The selection seems to be truncated at random places. Confirmed. And the themes seemed to have disappeared, at least in my case. -- Fly for now, òžó Nick Danger [MUA: The Bat! v3.61.04 beta] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.61.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/