Re: 10.2.1.2 Attachment auto-preview

2022-10-16 Thread George Salnik

Sunday, October 16, 2022, 12:20:35 PM, you wrote:

> Hello Zygmunt,


> Sunday, October 16, 2022, 12:04:19 PM, you wrote:

>> Howdy!

>> Вы писали 15 октября 2022 г., 22:56:32:
>>> On Saturday, October 15, 2022, at 19:54:50 [UTC+0200] (Saturday, October
>>> 15, 2022 19:54 my local time) I wrote:

 You can get it under right mouse button on attachment panel.
>>>  
>>> Sorry for this abbreviated response sent from my smartphone.
>>>  
>>> I want to reply to George Salnik, asking where is the attachment 
>>> autopreview. Yes, the option is under RMB, but unfortunately, it does not 
>>> work. 
>>>  
>>>  
>>> - 
>>> Best regards,
>>>  Zygmunt Wereszczynski
>>>  (Using 64-bit The Bat! v10.2.1.2 in OTFE mode with AntispamSniper 3.3.5.3
>>>  on 64-bit Windows 10.0 Build 19044 )

>> I do find that 10.2.1 is stay alive (tblauncher.exe) and I do run old 
>> version when new version is already installed (thebat.exe). That's why I was 
>> can't find this feature. Now I see this checkbox in attachment panel. Why 
>> this checkbox not in the attachment security options? 
>>  
>> And yes, it not works! I was try to see emails with pdf/xls/docx - it not 
>> shows previews! 
> Stop! It works, I do find how it works. You are need to click that attachment 
> and then TB! shows preview. Cool. If it really generate html-preview without 
> any scripts/macros in office document than - I will use it this for some not 
> so significant attachments.
 
Never mind! This is my loving feature after hour of work with it. Thanks, 
RitLabs. It saves many time for not so urgent emails with some attachments. 
What the converter do you use it for this auto-previews? 




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Re: 10.2.1.2 Attachment auto-preview

2022-10-16 Thread George Salnik
Hello Zygmunt,


Sunday, October 16, 2022, 12:04:19 PM, you wrote:

> Howdy!

> Вы писали 15 октября 2022 г., 22:56:32:
>> On Saturday, October 15, 2022, at 19:54:50 [UTC+0200] (Saturday, October
>> 15, 2022 19:54 my local time) I wrote:

>>> You can get it under right mouse button on attachment panel.
>>  
>> Sorry for this abbreviated response sent from my smartphone.
>>  
>> I want to reply to George Salnik, asking where is the attachment 
>> autopreview. Yes, the option is under RMB, but unfortunately, it does not 
>> work. 
>>  
>>  
>> - 
>> Best regards,
>>  Zygmunt Wereszczynski
>>  (Using 64-bit The Bat! v10.2.1.2 in OTFE mode with AntispamSniper 3.3.5.3
>>  on 64-bit Windows 10.0 Build 19044 )

> I do find that 10.2.1 is stay alive (tblauncher.exe) and I do run old version 
> when new version is already installed (thebat.exe). That's why I was can't 
> find this feature. Now I see this checkbox in attachment panel. Why this 
> checkbox not in the attachment security options? 
>  
> And yes, it not works! I was try to see emails with pdf/xls/docx - it not 
> shows previews! 
Stop! It works, I do find how it works. You are need to click that attachment 
and then TB! shows preview. Cool. If it really generate html-preview without 
any scripts/macros in office document than - I will use it this for some not so 
significant attachments.
 
  
 
 
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Re: 10.2.1.2 Attachment auto-preview

2022-10-16 Thread George Salnik
Howdy!

Вы писали 15 октября 2022 г., 22:56:32:
> On Saturday, October 15, 2022, at 19:54:50 [UTC+0200] (Saturday, October
> 15, 2022 19:54 my local time) I wrote:

>> You can get it under right mouse button on attachment panel.
>  
> Sorry for this abbreviated response sent from my smartphone.
>  
> I want to reply to George Salnik, asking where is the attachment autopreview. 
> Yes, the option is under RMB, but unfortunately, it does not work. 
>  
>  
> - 
> Best regards,
>  Zygmunt Wereszczynski
>  (Using 64-bit The Bat! v10.2.1.2 in OTFE mode with AntispamSniper 3.3.5.3
>  on 64-bit Windows 10.0 Build 19044 )

I do find that 10.2.1 is stay alive (tblauncher.exe) and I do run old version 
when new version is already installed (thebat.exe). That's why I was can't find 
this feature. Now I see this checkbox in attachment panel. Why this checkbox 
not in the attachment security options? 
 
And yes, it not works! I was try to see emails with pdf/xls/docx - it not shows 
previews! 


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Re: 10.2.1.2 Less ecurity with attchment viewes!?

2022-10-15 Thread Thomas ML
Hello George,

Saturday, October 15, 2022, 11:52:00 PM, you wrote:

 [+] Built-in viewer for most of Office documents (DOC, DOCX, XLT,
 XLTX, PPT, PPTX) as well as MD, EPUB, FB2
 [+] "Attachment autopreview" option to allow automatic switch to
 the attachment's tab of the preview pane (if any)
>>> Automatic viewers for PDF, DOC, XLS etc.? Really?
>>> How can we view mail content in a safe mode with such viewers? 
>>> Attachments are not blocked anymore by The Bat!s Settings for Attachment 
>>> Security?
>> Hmm - I also see no need to solve this internally. We all have external 
>> programmes that do that.
> Is this feature can't be disabled? If can be - I don't see any problem to 
> paranoic maniac like you and me.
I agree with this. Anybody who does not want to use the feature can disable it.
 
I might give it a try with my antivirus enabled once I am back home at my 
"play" computer.
 
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Re: 10.2.1.2 Attachment auto-preview

2022-10-15 Thread Zygmunt Wereszczynski
On Saturday, October 15, 2022, at 19:54:50 [UTC+0200] (Saturday, October
15, 2022 19:54 my local time) I wrote:

> You can get it under right mouse button on attachment panel.
 
Sorry for this abbreviated response sent from my smartphone.
 
I want to reply to George Salnik, asking where is the attachment autopreview. 
Yes, the option is under RMB, but unfortunately, it does not work. 
 
 
- 
Best regards,
 Zygmunt Wereszczynski
 (Using 64-bit The Bat! v10.2.1.2 in OTFE mode with AntispamSniper 3.3.5.3
 on 64-bit Windows 10.0 Build 19044 )



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OD: 10.2.1.2 Attachment auto-preview

2022-10-15 Thread zyga...@data.pl
You can get it under right mouse button on attachment panel.
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Re: 10.2.1.2 Attachment auto-preview

2022-10-15 Thread George Salnik
Howdy!

Вы писали 14 октября 2022 г., 18:52:07:
> [+] "Attachment autopreview" option to allow automatic switch to the 
> attachment's tab of the preview pane (if any)
Where is this? I don't see checkbox in the settings - attachment security




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Re: 10.2.1.2 and auto-update

2022-10-15 Thread George Salnik
Howdy!

Вы писали 14 октября 2022 г., 18:52:07:

> The Bat! v10.2.1.2 is available for testing. 
And my Bat says that there is no updates. Why don't we need this links when 
version is with auto-update feature? 
 
Please do two-things:
- In settings of updates add checkbox "receive beta-versions"
- Do auto-update for such TB! with this enabled checkbox.
 
Save your and our time!


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Re: 10.2.1.2 Less ecurity with attchment viewes!?

2022-10-15 Thread George Salnik
Howdy!

Вы писали 14 октября 2022 г., 20:46:22:
> Hi Gwen

> On Friday, October 14, 2022 7:13:54 PM you wrote:

>>> [+] Built-in viewer for most of Office documents (DOC, DOCX, XLT,
>>> XLTX, PPT, PPTX) as well as MD, EPUB, FB2
>>> [+] "Attachment autopreview" option to allow automatic switch to
>>> the attachment's tab of the preview pane (if any)
>> Automatic viewers for PDF, DOC, XLS etc.? Really?
>> How can we view mail content in a safe mode with such viewers? 
>> Attachments are not blocked anymore by The Bat!s Settings for Attachment 
>> Security?
> Hmm - I also see no need to solve this internally. We all have external 
> programmes that do that.
Is this feature can't be disabled? If can be - I don't see any problem to 
paranoic maniac like you and me.



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Re: 10.2.1.2 Less ecurity with attchment viewes!?

2022-10-15 Thread Gwen
Hello Stefan,

On Fri, 14 Oct 2022, at 20:32:20 [GMT +0300] (which was 19:32 where I
live) Stefan wrote:

>> Automatic viewers for PDF, DOC, XLS etc.? Really?

> The files are converted by the built-in converter into HTML and
> displayed in the HTML viewer, actually. No scripts execution and
> other unsafe stuff. Do you still see anything to worry security wise?

Who at Ritlabs is running automated tests with attachments to check 
converters on buffer-overflows, Use After Free issues and other bugs? 
Any Security Auditing of such new features? If all is done in a so  
called "Sandbox" thet can be evaded.
I am sure that malicious senders are able create broken/special 
attachments causing a severe security hole. 

And in these bad times we are all much more concerned having no 
insecure programs being attacked by chinese, russian services and 
intruders.

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Re: 10.2.1.2

2022-10-14 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Friday, October 14, 2022, 17:52:07, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote:

> [+] Built-in viewer for most of Office documents (DOC, DOCX, XLT, XLTX, PPT, 
> PPTX) as well as MD, EPUB, FB2
> [+] "Attachment autopreview" option to allow automatic switch to the 
> attachment's tab of the preview pane (if any)

How about fixing the long-standing new HTML viewer bugs first instead?

- spacebar reading not working most of the time (moves to a different message), 
https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2195
- several UI problems in high contrast (invisible scrollbars, forced colors)
- URL hover tooltips at the bottom of the window being cut off
- some messages not appearing at all 


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Re: 10.2.1.2 Less ecurity with attchment viewes!?

2022-10-14 Thread Martin
Hi Gwen

On Friday, October 14, 2022 7:13:54 PM you wrote:

>> [+] Built-in viewer for most of Office documents (DOC, DOCX, XLT,
>> XLTX, PPT, PPTX) as well as MD, EPUB, FB2
>> [+] "Attachment autopreview" option to allow automatic switch to
>> the attachment's tab of the preview pane (if any)

> Automatic viewers for PDF, DOC, XLS etc.? Really?
> How can we view mail content in a safe mode with such viewers? 
> Attachments are not blocked anymore by The Bat!s Settings for Attachment 
> Security?

Hmm - I also see no need to solve this internally. We all have external 
programmes that do that.

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Re: 10.2.1.2

2022-10-14 Thread Joerg Schiermeier
On 2022-10-14 at 18:52 (UTC +0300) Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote:
> [+] Built-in viewer for most of Office documents (DOC, DOCX, XLT,
> XLTX, PPT, PPTX) as well as MD, EPUB, FB2 [+] "Attachment
> autopreview" option to allow automatic switch to the attachment's tab
> of the preview pane (if any)


Outlook 97 is back!
History repeating...


Srsly?

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Re: 10.2.1.2 Less ecurity with attchment viewes!?

2022-10-14 Thread Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA
Hello Gwen,

Friday, October 14, 2022, 8:13:54 PM, you wrote:

> Automatic viewers for PDF, DOC, XLS etc.? Really?

The files are converted by the built-in converter into HTML and displayed in 
the HTML viewer, actually. No scripts execution and other unsafe stuff. Do you 
still see anything to worry security wise?


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Re: 10.2.1.2 Less ecurity with attchment viewes!?

2022-10-14 Thread Gwen
Hello Stefan,

On Fri, 14 Oct 2022, at 18:52:07 [GMT +0300] (which was 17:52 where I
live) Stefan wrote:

> [+] Built-in viewer for most of Office documents (DOC, DOCX, XLT,
> XLTX, PPT, PPTX) as well as MD, EPUB, FB2
> [+] "Attachment autopreview" option to allow automatic switch to
> the attachment's tab of the preview pane (if any)

Automatic viewers for PDF, DOC, XLS etc.? Really?
How can we view mail content in a safe mode with such viewers? 
Attachments are not blocked anymore by The Bat!s Settings for Attachment 
Security? 

More user features vs. less security? 
I am concerned that The Bat! will go the same way as Thunderbird or 
Chromium with its browser related security vulnerabilities. 

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10.2.1.2

2022-10-14 Thread Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA
Hello All,

The Bat! v10.2.1.2 is available for testing. 

https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_32_10-2-1-2.msi
https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_64_10-2-1-2.msi

https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_32_10-2-1-2.msi
https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_64_10-2-1-2.msi

[+] Built-in viewer for most of Office documents (DOC, DOCX, XLT, XLTX, PPT, 
PPTX) as well as MD, EPUB, FB2
[+] "Attachment autopreview" option to allow automatic switch to the 
attachment's tab of the preview pane (if any)


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