Re: 10.2.1.2 Attachment auto-preview
Sunday, October 16, 2022, 12:20:35 PM, you wrote: > Hello Zygmunt, > Sunday, October 16, 2022, 12:04:19 PM, you wrote: >> Howdy! >> Вы писали 15 октября 2022 г., 22:56:32: >>> On Saturday, October 15, 2022, at 19:54:50 [UTC+0200] (Saturday, October >>> 15, 2022 19:54 my local time) I wrote: You can get it under right mouse button on attachment panel. >>> >>> Sorry for this abbreviated response sent from my smartphone. >>> >>> I want to reply to George Salnik, asking where is the attachment >>> autopreview. Yes, the option is under RMB, but unfortunately, it does not >>> work. >>> >>> >>> - >>> Best regards, >>> Zygmunt Wereszczynski >>> (Using 64-bit The Bat! v10.2.1.2 in OTFE mode with AntispamSniper 3.3.5.3 >>> on 64-bit Windows 10.0 Build 19044 ) >> I do find that 10.2.1 is stay alive (tblauncher.exe) and I do run old >> version when new version is already installed (thebat.exe). That's why I was >> can't find this feature. Now I see this checkbox in attachment panel. Why >> this checkbox not in the attachment security options? >> >> And yes, it not works! I was try to see emails with pdf/xls/docx - it not >> shows previews! > Stop! It works, I do find how it works. You are need to click that attachment > and then TB! shows preview. Cool. If it really generate html-preview without > any scripts/macros in office document than - I will use it this for some not > so significant attachments. Never mind! This is my loving feature after hour of work with it. Thanks, RitLabs. It saves many time for not so urgent emails with some attachments. What the converter do you use it for this auto-previews? 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.2.1.2 Attachment auto-preview
Hello Zygmunt, Sunday, October 16, 2022, 12:04:19 PM, you wrote: > Howdy! > Вы писали 15 октября 2022 г., 22:56:32: >> On Saturday, October 15, 2022, at 19:54:50 [UTC+0200] (Saturday, October >> 15, 2022 19:54 my local time) I wrote: >>> You can get it under right mouse button on attachment panel. >> >> Sorry for this abbreviated response sent from my smartphone. >> >> I want to reply to George Salnik, asking where is the attachment >> autopreview. Yes, the option is under RMB, but unfortunately, it does not >> work. >> >> >> - >> Best regards, >> Zygmunt Wereszczynski >> (Using 64-bit The Bat! v10.2.1.2 in OTFE mode with AntispamSniper 3.3.5.3 >> on 64-bit Windows 10.0 Build 19044 ) > I do find that 10.2.1 is stay alive (tblauncher.exe) and I do run old version > when new version is already installed (thebat.exe). That's why I was can't > find this feature. Now I see this checkbox in attachment panel. Why this > checkbox not in the attachment security options? > > And yes, it not works! I was try to see emails with pdf/xls/docx - it not > shows previews! Stop! It works, I do find how it works. You are need to click that attachment and then TB! shows preview. Cool. If it really generate html-preview without any scripts/macros in office document than - I will use it this for some not so significant attachments. -- С ув. Георгий Сальник, Директор ООО "Белрус" 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.2.1.2 Attachment auto-preview
Howdy! Вы писали 15 октября 2022 г., 22:56:32: > On Saturday, October 15, 2022, at 19:54:50 [UTC+0200] (Saturday, October > 15, 2022 19:54 my local time) I wrote: >> You can get it under right mouse button on attachment panel. > > Sorry for this abbreviated response sent from my smartphone. > > I want to reply to George Salnik, asking where is the attachment autopreview. > Yes, the option is under RMB, but unfortunately, it does not work. > > > - > Best regards, > Zygmunt Wereszczynski > (Using 64-bit The Bat! v10.2.1.2 in OTFE mode with AntispamSniper 3.3.5.3 > on 64-bit Windows 10.0 Build 19044 ) I do find that 10.2.1 is stay alive (tblauncher.exe) and I do run old version when new version is already installed (thebat.exe). That's why I was can't find this feature. Now I see this checkbox in attachment panel. Why this checkbox not in the attachment security options? And yes, it not works! I was try to see emails with pdf/xls/docx - it not shows previews! Best Regards, George Salnik RitLabs Russian Forum Moderator 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.2.1.2 Less ecurity with attchment viewes!?
Hello George, Saturday, October 15, 2022, 11:52:00 PM, you wrote: [+] Built-in viewer for most of Office documents (DOC, DOCX, XLT, XLTX, PPT, PPTX) as well as MD, EPUB, FB2 [+] "Attachment autopreview" option to allow automatic switch to the attachment's tab of the preview pane (if any) >>> Automatic viewers for PDF, DOC, XLS etc.? Really? >>> How can we view mail content in a safe mode with such viewers? >>> Attachments are not blocked anymore by The Bat!s Settings for Attachment >>> Security? >> Hmm - I also see no need to solve this internally. We all have external >> programmes that do that. > Is this feature can't be disabled? If can be - I don't see any problem to > paranoic maniac like you and me. I agree with this. Anybody who does not want to use the feature can disable it. I might give it a try with my antivirus enabled once I am back home at my "play" computer. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.2.1.2 Attachment auto-preview
On Saturday, October 15, 2022, at 19:54:50 [UTC+0200] (Saturday, October 15, 2022 19:54 my local time) I wrote: > You can get it under right mouse button on attachment panel. Sorry for this abbreviated response sent from my smartphone. I want to reply to George Salnik, asking where is the attachment autopreview. Yes, the option is under RMB, but unfortunately, it does not work. - Best regards, Zygmunt Wereszczynski (Using 64-bit The Bat! v10.2.1.2 in OTFE mode with AntispamSniper 3.3.5.3 on 64-bit Windows 10.0 Build 19044 ) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OD: 10.2.1.2 Attachment auto-preview
You can get it under right mouse button on attachment panel. 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.2.1.2 Attachment auto-preview
Howdy! Вы писали 14 октября 2022 г., 18:52:07: > [+] "Attachment autopreview" option to allow automatic switch to the > attachment's tab of the preview pane (if any) Where is this? I don't see checkbox in the settings - attachment security Best Regards, George Salnik RitLabs Russian Forum Moderator 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.2.1.2 and auto-update
Howdy! Вы писали 14 октября 2022 г., 18:52:07: > The Bat! v10.2.1.2 is available for testing. And my Bat says that there is no updates. Why don't we need this links when version is with auto-update feature? Please do two-things: - In settings of updates add checkbox "receive beta-versions" - Do auto-update for such TB! with this enabled checkbox. Save your and our time! Best Regards, George Salnik RitLabs Russian Forum Moderator 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.2.1.2 Less ecurity with attchment viewes!?
Howdy! Вы писали 14 октября 2022 г., 20:46:22: > Hi Gwen > On Friday, October 14, 2022 7:13:54 PM you wrote: >>> [+] Built-in viewer for most of Office documents (DOC, DOCX, XLT, >>> XLTX, PPT, PPTX) as well as MD, EPUB, FB2 >>> [+] "Attachment autopreview" option to allow automatic switch to >>> the attachment's tab of the preview pane (if any) >> Automatic viewers for PDF, DOC, XLS etc.? Really? >> How can we view mail content in a safe mode with such viewers? >> Attachments are not blocked anymore by The Bat!s Settings for Attachment >> Security? > Hmm - I also see no need to solve this internally. We all have external > programmes that do that. Is this feature can't be disabled? If can be - I don't see any problem to paranoic maniac like you and me. Best Regards, George Salnik RitLabs Russian Forum Moderator 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.2.1.2 Less ecurity with attchment viewes!?
Hello Stefan, On Fri, 14 Oct 2022, at 20:32:20 [GMT +0300] (which was 19:32 where I live) Stefan wrote: >> Automatic viewers for PDF, DOC, XLS etc.? Really? > The files are converted by the built-in converter into HTML and > displayed in the HTML viewer, actually. No scripts execution and > other unsafe stuff. Do you still see anything to worry security wise? Who at Ritlabs is running automated tests with attachments to check converters on buffer-overflows, Use After Free issues and other bugs? Any Security Auditing of such new features? If all is done in a so called "Sandbox" thet can be evaded. I am sure that malicious senders are able create broken/special attachments causing a severe security hole. And in these bad times we are all much more concerned having no insecure programs being attacked by chinese, russian services and intruders. -- Regards Gwen Using The Bat! Version 10.2.1.2 (32-bit) on Windows 11 10.0 (Build 22000 ) pgpR1mnGv4CH0.pgp Description: PGP signature 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.2.1.2
On Friday, October 14, 2022, 17:52:07, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > [+] Built-in viewer for most of Office documents (DOC, DOCX, XLT, XLTX, PPT, > PPTX) as well as MD, EPUB, FB2 > [+] "Attachment autopreview" option to allow automatic switch to the > attachment's tab of the preview pane (if any) How about fixing the long-standing new HTML viewer bugs first instead? - spacebar reading not working most of the time (moves to a different message), https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2195 - several UI problems in high contrast (invisible scrollbars, forced colors) - URL hover tooltips at the bottom of the window being cut off - some messages not appearing at all -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Nature abhors a vacuous experimenter. -- Campbell's Law TheBat! Version 10.2.1.2 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22621 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.2.1.2 Less ecurity with attchment viewes!?
Hi Gwen On Friday, October 14, 2022 7:13:54 PM you wrote: >> [+] Built-in viewer for most of Office documents (DOC, DOCX, XLT, >> XLTX, PPT, PPTX) as well as MD, EPUB, FB2 >> [+] "Attachment autopreview" option to allow automatic switch to >> the attachment's tab of the preview pane (if any) > Automatic viewers for PDF, DOC, XLS etc.? Really? > How can we view mail content in a safe mode with such viewers? > Attachments are not blocked anymore by The Bat!s Settings for Attachment > Security? Hmm - I also see no need to solve this internally. We all have external programmes that do that. -- Best regards, Martin mar...@postzone.org TheBat! 10.2.1 Pro (64bit, with OTFE) on Windows 10.0 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.2.1.2
On 2022-10-14 at 18:52 (UTC +0300) Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > [+] Built-in viewer for most of Office documents (DOC, DOCX, XLT, > XLTX, PPT, PPTX) as well as MD, EPUB, FB2 [+] "Attachment > autopreview" option to allow automatic switch to the attachment's tab > of the preview pane (if any) Outlook 97 is back! History repeating... Srsly? -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany ~~ productive: The Bat! pro v9.5.1.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v7.18 - Devuan (daedalus ceres): v5 emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17763) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.2.1.2 Less ecurity with attchment viewes!?
Hello Gwen, Friday, October 14, 2022, 8:13:54 PM, you wrote: > Automatic viewers for PDF, DOC, XLS etc.? Really? The files are converted by the built-in converter into HTML and displayed in the HTML viewer, actually. No scripts execution and other unsafe stuff. Do you still see anything to worry security wise? -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.2.1.2 Less ecurity with attchment viewes!?
Hello Stefan, On Fri, 14 Oct 2022, at 18:52:07 [GMT +0300] (which was 17:52 where I live) Stefan wrote: > [+] Built-in viewer for most of Office documents (DOC, DOCX, XLT, > XLTX, PPT, PPTX) as well as MD, EPUB, FB2 > [+] "Attachment autopreview" option to allow automatic switch to > the attachment's tab of the preview pane (if any) Automatic viewers for PDF, DOC, XLS etc.? Really? How can we view mail content in a safe mode with such viewers? Attachments are not blocked anymore by The Bat!s Settings for Attachment Security? More user features vs. less security? I am concerned that The Bat! will go the same way as Thunderbird or Chromium with its browser related security vulnerabilities. -- Regards Gwen Using The Bat! Version 10.2.1.2 (32-bit) on Windows 11 10.0 (Build 22000 ) pgps7DgikBeNx.pgp Description: PGP signature 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
10.2.1.2
Hello All, The Bat! v10.2.1.2 is available for testing. https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_32_10-2-1-2.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_64_10-2-1-2.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_32_10-2-1-2.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_64_10-2-1-2.msi [+] Built-in viewer for most of Office documents (DOC, DOCX, XLT, XLTX, PPT, PPTX) as well as MD, EPUB, FB2 [+] "Attachment autopreview" option to allow automatic switch to the attachment's tab of the preview pane (if any) -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html