36: Failure of Ctrl-Right (reading unread messages)

2005-07-04 Thread Bill McCarthy
Hello TB Beta List,

I use Ctrl-Right to read mail.  It skips to the next
unread message in the current folder (or the next
folder when all messages are marked read in the current
folder).

It is no longer going to the first unread message.
Here is an example.  Suppose a folder (in threaded
view) has this structure (all other mails are read):

A - read
   B - unread
   C - unread

If I position on message A and then go to the account
name in the folder tree, pressing ctrl-right brings me
to message C instead of message B.

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Re: 36: Failure of Ctrl-Right (reading unread messages)

2005-07-04 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Bill,

On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 01:29:54 -0500GMT (4-7-2005, 8:29 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

BM I use Ctrl-Right to read mail.  It skips to the next
BM unread message in the current folder (or the next
BM folder when all messages are marked read in the current
BM folder).

BM It is no longer going to the first unread message.

Can't confirm.

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Re: 36: Failure of Ctrl-Right (reading unread messages)

2005-07-04 Thread Michael Acklin
Monday, July 4, 2005, 1:29:54 AM, (Internet Time - @312) you wrote:

Hello Bill,

BM A - read
BMB - unread
BMC - unread

BM If I position on message A and then go to the account
BM name in the folder tree, pressing ctrl-right brings me
BM to message C instead of message B.

   I tried this also, but what I got was the message A being
   highlighted. Not the message C.

   Sorry can't confirm either.


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Re: 36: Failure of Ctrl-Right (reading unread messages)

2005-07-04 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Mon 4-Jul-05 8:17am -0500, Michael Acklin wrote:

 Monday, July 4, 2005, 1:29:54 AM, (Internet Time - @312) you wrote:

 Hello Bill,

BM A - read
BMB - unread
BMC - unread
BM
BM If I position on message A and then go to the account
BM name in the folder tree, pressing ctrl-right brings me
BM to message C instead of message B.

I tried this also, but what I got was the message A being
highlighted. Not the message C.

Sorry can't confirm either.

You have a far more serious problem.  Since message A
has been marked read, you should NEVER get to it with
ctrl-right.  Perhaps you have reassigned ctrl-right?

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Re: 36: Failure of Ctrl-Right (reading unread messages)

2005-07-04 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Mon 4-Jul-05 1:53am -0500, Roelof Otten wrote:

 Hallo Bill,

 On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 01:29:54 -0500GMT (4-7-2005, 8:29 +0200, where I
 live), you wrote:

BM I use Ctrl-Right to read mail.  It skips to the next
BM unread message in the current folder (or the next
BM folder when all messages are marked read in the current
BM folder).
BM
BM It is no longer going to the first unread message.

 Can't confirm.

Thanks for checking, Roelof.

I understand and can see the same behavior with all
messages visible.  When I started this thread, I didn't
realize that the behavior is different with my view
mode - which only shows unread mail.

let's first make sure we are in (no view mode).

In your TB! Beta folder, with all messages read, press
Alt+1 then Ctrl+= to be in standard threaded mode with
all messages visible - we should have a common starting
point.

Now find the same structure and mark them unread so you
have, anywhere in a thread:

A - unread
   B - unread
   C - unread

Now do View-Display-Only Unread messages.  Only those
three messages will be visible.

Position on message A, mark it read (Ctrl+M) and then
go to the account name in the folder tree.

Finally, when you press Ctrl+Right, you will be
positioned on message C instead of message B.

Can you confirm that?

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Re: 36: Failure of Ctrl-Right (reading unread messages)

2005-07-04 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Bill McCarthy  everyone else,

on 04-Jul-2005 at 08:29 you (Bill McCarthy) wrote:

 If I position on message A and then go to the account name in the folder
 tree, pressing ctrl-right brings me to message C instead of message B.

Are you sure that message B is really unread, and not just part of a
(collapsed) thread where message C is located, and only message C is
unread?

Other than that... I don't see CTRL+right being the standard shortcut for
move to next unread, its CTRL+ALT+right, I've used that forever since,
and it does not fail here. *shrug*

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Re: 36: Failure of Ctrl-Right (reading unread messages)

2005-07-04 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Mon 4-Jul-05 11:48am -0500, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

 Hello Bill McCarthy  everyone else,

 on 04-Jul-2005 at 08:29 you (Bill McCarthy) wrote:

 If I position on message A and then go to the
 account name in the folder
 tree, pressing ctrl-right brings me to message C instead of message B.

 Are you sure that message B is really unread, and not just part of a
 (collapsed) thread where message C is located, and only message C is
 unread?

Yes, I am sure but you must be in Only Unread message
mode to see this.  Please read:

mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Other than that... I don't see CTRL+right being the standard shortcut for
 move to next unread, its CTRL+ALT+right, I've used that forever since,
 and it does not fail here. *shrug*

That is surprising.  If I look at Customize, I see
three standard ways of doing this:

Ctrl+Alt+Right
Ctrl+Right
Ctrl+]

You must have deleted the other two - or may the fact
that the menu only shows the first one listed has you
confused.

I used to use Ctrl+], but since using a laptop I've
switched to Ctrl+Right - the Right is only three keys
away from Ctrl :-)  I have no idea why you choose to
press an extra key - finger exercise?

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Re: 36: Failure of Ctrl-Right (reading unread messages)

2005-07-04 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Bill,

On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:34:37 -0500GMT (4-7-2005, 18:34 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

BM Finally, when you press Ctrl+Right, you will be
BM positioned on message C instead of message B.

BM Can you confirm that?

Still can't confirm.

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Re: 36: Failure of Ctrl-Right (reading unread messages)

2005-07-04 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Mon 4-Jul-05 2:34pm -0500, Roelof Otten wrote:

 Hallo Bill,

 On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:34:37 -0500GMT (4-7-2005, 18:34 +0200, where I
 live), you wrote:

BM Finally, when you press Ctrl+Right, you will be
BM positioned on message C instead of message B.
BM
BM Can you confirm that?

 Still can't confirm.

Thanks for trying it again.

I just repeated my test 6 times with a thread that
started of as:

Unread
Unread
Unread
Unread
Unread
Unread
Unread

All other mails in the folder were read, so these were
the only ones visible.  Each time, I marked the top
message read, clicked on the top account folder and hit
Ctrl+Right.  Each of the first five times I landed on
the SECOND unread message.

Of course, on the sixth test, there was only one unread
mail remaining and Ctrl+Right went to it.

This is repeatable every try.

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Re: 36: Failure of Ctrl-Right (reading unread messages)

2005-07-04 Thread Maurice Snellen
On Monday, July 4, 2005 at 23:15 (which was Tuesday, July 5, 2005 at
6:15 where I am) Bill Mccarthy wrote:

 Each time, I marked the top message read, clicked on the top account
 folder and hit Ctrl+Right. Each of the first five times I landed on
 the SECOND unread message.

That is weird. Since there are too many unread messages in my folders
that I don't want to mark read at this time, I cannot reproduce this
entirely, but I have noticed that there is something weird about the
way TB! handles 'go to next unread' when the currently selected
'folder' is an account name itself.

For instance, I have at the top of my account list, the acounts of
myself and my wife:

HyperCube Maurice
HyperCube Brenda

There are unread messages in both accounts. If I select the account
name and for my wife and hit Ctrl-Right or Ctrl-], TB! goes to the
first unread message of the 'HyperCube Maurice' account instead of
what I expected to happen, the first unread message in 'HyperCube
Brenda'.

This means that in order to get to the unread messages in her account,
I am forced to expand her account and select at least the top folder
there in order to be able to use Ctrl-Right or Ctrl-].

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