Re: 4.0.24.22 - No downloading certain messages
Hello Bat People, For a couple of recent versions, I've noticed that emails on from certain mailing lists would show up in MailWasher but would not be downloaded into TB. At my next mail check the same message was still on my ISP's server as a new message. The only way I can get rid of the message is to go to my ISP's HTML web mail site and delete it. TB just won't download it. Is there anything in the following header codes that might explain why this is happening? Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from noehlo.host ([127.0.0.1]) by mx-herron.atl.sa.earthlink.net (EarthLink SMTP Server) with SMTP id 1kjYTH3X63Nl34a0; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:57:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wsmarth-ovenbird.pas.sa.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.247]) by mx-herron.atl.sa.earthlink.net (EarthLink SMTP Server) with SMTP id 1kjYTHI3Nl34a0 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:57:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whmx-tenant.pas.sa.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.229]) by wsmarth-ovenbird.pas.sa.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #4) id 1KJyth-0007Qa-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:57:57 -0700 X-ELNK-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from noehlo.host ([127.0.0.1]) by whmx-tenant.pas.sa.earthlink.net (EarthLink SMTP Server) with SMTP id 1kjYTd5B03NZFmB0; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.rirctennis.com ([70.107.255.125]) by whmx-tenant.pas.sa.earthlink.net (EarthLink SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1kjYTc2qP3NZFmB0 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:57:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.rirctennis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8258CC786 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:57:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.rirctennis.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s2jMu9V30wuP for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:57:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.rirctennis.com (Postfix, from userid 33) id BB665CC795; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:57:23 -0400 (EDT) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Tram Update, July 22-23 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:57:23 -0400 From: Roosevelt Island Racquet Club [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: PHPMailer [version 1.73] X-Mailer: phplist v2.10.3 X-MessageID: 118 X-ListMember: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type=text/html; boundary=b1_fab5ba59e3b9c9b7608e1ed3b9fa4f4f X-ELNK-Received-Info: spv=0; X-ELNK-Received-Info: sbv=0; sbrc=.0; sbf=0b; sbw=000; X-ELNK-Received-Info: spv=0; X-ELNK-AV: 0 X-ELNK-Info: sbv=0; sbrc=.0; sbf=0b; sbw=010; -- Best regards, Richard mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] = Using The Bat! v4.0.26.4 on Windows XP5 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.0.26.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.22 - No downloading certain messages
Hello Richard For a couple of recent versions, I've noticed that emails on from certain mailing lists would show up in MailWasher but would not be downloaded into TB Do you use any antispam plugin? -- Best regards, Andrew Current beta is 4.0.26.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.22 - No downloading certain messages
Hello Andrew, Monday, July 28, 2008, 12:27:02 PM, you wrote: AG Do you use any antispam plugin? Yes, Antispamsniper for The Bat v 2.8.1.1 but I don't see any trace that these emails are being blocked or even handled by Antispamsniper. And I don't think Antispamsniper is processing these because I think TB isn't downloading them. -- Best regards, Richardmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Using The Bat! v4.0.26.4 on Windows XP5 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.0.26.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.22 - No downloading certain messages
Hello Richard Yes, Antispamsniper for The Bat v 2.8.1.1 but I don't see any trace that these emails are being blocked or even handled by Antispamsniper. And I don't think Antispamsniper is processing these because I think TB isn't downloading them. Yeah, as I thought. In its settings in the Servers tab inside the account properties there is a checkbox for POP3 'Store the copies of messages deleted by headers on the server, for allowing undeleting the false positives'. That should give you an explanation. -- Best regards, Andrew Current beta is 4.0.26.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.22 - No downloading certain messages
Hello Andrew, Monday, July 28, 2008, 2:29:35 PM, you wrote: AG In its settings in the Servers tab inside the account properties AG there is a checkbox for POP3 'Store the copies of messages deleted AG by headers on the server, for allowing undeleting the false AG positives'. That should give you an explanation. I unchecked the box (I assumed that is what you meant) and there is no difference in behavior. We should I be looking for an explanation? Sorry for being so dense on this. -- Best regards, Richardmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Using The Bat! v4.0.26.4 on Windows XP5 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.0.26.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.22 - No downloading certain messages
Hello Richard I unchecked the box (I assumed that is what you meant) and there is no difference in behavior. We should I be looking for an explanation? Sorry for being so dense on this. The plug-in optionally leaves copies of messages deleted by headers on the server. It possible to restore good messages mistakenly deleted from the server by their headers using the filtering log. To undelete a message, select the corresponding record in the log and click the Restore deleted messages toolbar button (or select the Undelete context menu item). The restored messages will be downloaded next time you check the mailbox in the mail client. Copies of deleted messages are stored on the server until the corresponding records are stored in the filtering log. To delete these messages stored on the server, click the Mark spam on the server for deletion toolbar button. The messages will be deleted automatically next time you check the mailbox in the mail client. It is possible to disable leaving copies of deleted messages on the server on the POP3 tab of the account settings. Restoring messages deleted by their headers will be impossible for the corresponding mailbox. -- Best regards, Andrew Current beta is 4.0.26.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.22 - No downloading certain messages
Hello Andrew, I think our conversation isn't Beta related and as such will be responding to you via private email. -- Best regards, Richardmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Using The Bat! v4.0.26.4 on Windows XP5 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.0.26.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.22
Dear Neal, @27-Jun-2008, 16:21 -0800 (28-Jun 01:21 here) Neal Laugman [NL] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: ... snip MM [-] Fixed an AV that might happen when simultaneously checking multiple accounts with TLS MP I have been having to task-manager close a locked TB at least twice a MP day up to this version and I *do* have multiple accounts with TLS. So MP far, I haven't had that problem with this build. I'll keep watching. NL Still using .22 and I've had some problems shutting down and TB NL hanging. I have reverted to .22 and have just successfully left it running overnight. That doesn't happen often here, so it seems so far that this build cures the hang for me but it is broken in earlier build and .23. ... snip NL track of. I'm sure Antispam Sniper can account for half of that. Not using local anti-spam anymore. NL I think there is memory loss going on here, but no AV. No AV or memory loss for me. Just a complete stop on all functionality - icon stops mid-flap (if it happens to be flapping at the time) and ticker stops mid-scroll. No right click menu on icon, no mail check activity. All very quiet and need a task manager culling to get control back. NL at least the last time. I tried dropping various threads (using NL Process Explorer) so see if I could find the one that was hanging NL up the shutdown, I don't have hanging on exit. I just have (or had - none with this build) random hanging during use. ... snip While this was true of build .22, it is not true if ,23. I am getting freeze-ups again. NL I will upgrade to .23 and check it out. Marck - do you purge and NL compress at shutdown? Yes. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v4.0.24.22 on Windows Vista 6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 ' pgpvPkFP9KYwb.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.24.23 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.22
Hello Marck, Friday, June 27, 2008, 11:59:29 PM, you wrote: MDP Dear Neal, MDP @27-Jun-2008, 16:21 -0800 (28-Jun 01:21 here) Neal Laugman [NL] in MDP mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: snip MDP Not using local anti-spam anymore. I have too many mail accounts not to use one, otherwise, I'd snag all of it on the server. NL I think there is memory loss going on here, but no AV. MDP No AV or memory loss for me. Just a complete stop on all MDP functionality - icon stops mid-flap (if it happens to be flapping at MDP the time) and ticker stops mid-scroll. No right click menu on icon, no MDP mail check activity. All very quiet and need a task manager culling to MDP get control back. I've seen the freeze before and the virtual lock-up of the desktop, but not for quite some time now (praise be to Stef and Max). NL at least the last time. I tried dropping various threads (using NL Process Explorer) so see if I could find the one that was hanging NL up the shutdown, MDP I don't have hanging on exit. I just have (or had - none with this MDP build) random hanging during use. MDP ... snip While this was true of build .22, it is not true if ,23. I am getting freeze-ups again. NL I will upgrade to .23 and check it out. .23 had less memory requirements and I've just installed .24 - we shall see. NL Marck - do you purge and compress at shutdown? MDP Yes. So you have never seen the status dialog not fully painted with no idea where the shut-down process is at? It's a scary thing to see with OTFE with my current mail-bases now approaching 1GB! But I back up early and often. -- Neal Using TheBat! v4.0.24.24 on Windows XP Service Pack 3 AntispamSniper 2.8.1.1 OTFE enabled Current beta is 4.0.24.23 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.22
Dear Neal, @28-Jun-2008, 04:11 -0800 (28-Jun 13:11 here) Neal Laugman [NL] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: ... snip NL I've seen the freeze before and the virtual lock-up of the desktop, NL but not for quite some time now (praise be to Stef and Max). It's not a freeze of anything but TB here. It is completely hung in the tooltray. Nothing in the exception logs. Just a dead Bat. ... snip NL .23 had less memory requirements and I've just installed .24 - we NL shall see. So far, no hangs. NL So you have never seen the status dialog not fully painted with no NL idea where the shut-down process is at? NL It's a scary thing to see with OTFE with my current mail-bases now NL approaching 1GB! But I back up early and often. I don't use OTFE so I've not seen anything like it. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v4.0.24.24 on Windows Vista 6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 ' pgpD0WqfzcxID.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.24.23 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.22
Dear All, @18-Jun-2008, 09:49 Marck D Pearlstone [MP] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Maxim: MM [-] Fixed an AV that might happen when simultaneously checking multiple accounts with TLS MP I have been having to task-manager close a locked TB at least twice a MP day up to this version and I *do* have multiple accounts with TLS. So MP far, I haven't had that problem with this build. I'll keep watching. While this was true of build .22, it is not true if ,23. I am getting freeze-ups again. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v4.0.24.23 on Windows Vista 6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 ' pgpUj42fRYmZW.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.24.23 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.22
Hi Marck and the group, Dear All, @18-Jun-2008, 09:49 Marck D Pearlstone [MP] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Maxim: MM [-] Fixed an AV that might happen when simultaneously checking multiple accounts with TLS MP I have been having to task-manager close a locked TB at least twice a MP day up to this version and I *do* have multiple accounts with TLS. So MP far, I haven't had that problem with this build. I'll keep watching. * AV exception log attached * Still using .22 and I've had some problems shutting down and TB hanging. It's just gorged on private and virtual memory (at 500MB each) . Right now, it has 2800 handles open and 247 threads to keep track of. I'm sure Antispam Sniper can account for half of that. I think there is memory loss going on here, but no AV. at least the last time. I tried dropping various threads (using Process Explorer) so see if I could find the one that was hanging up the shutdown, but no luck with that. The last time, at exit(), it started going through its purge and compress cycle, and then just froze. I then had to kill it. While this was true of build .22, it is not true if ,23. I am getting freeze-ups again. I will upgrade to .23 and check it out. Marck - do you purge and compress at shutdown? -- Neal Using TheBat! v4.0.24.22 on Windows XP Service Pack 3 AntispamSniper 2.8.1.1 OTFE enabled Date: 23 Jun 2008 21:04:40 OS: Windows XP Service Pack 3 build 2600 PhysMemFreeTotal: 290/1022 MB VirtMemFreeTotal: 1969/2047 MB CommandLine: C:\Batmail\thebat.exe /NOLOGO Address: 0044C239 ClassName: EOSErrorW Message: System Error. Code: 121. Message: The semaphore timeout period has expired. Location: ConnectToRemoteServerPipe; WaitNamedPipe try counter exceeded IsOSException: 0 Modules: 0040 20080616160320 C:\Batmail\thebat.exe Stack: 0044C239 [0040] 0044C234 [0040] 00A4C8CA [0040] 00759120 [0040] 00A4D0C9 [0040] 00C491AD [0040] 00C49B4D [0040] 00C4DFC2 [0040] 00C52D84 [0040] Date: 23 Jun 2008 21:13:58 OS: Windows XP Service Pack 3 build 2600 PhysMemFreeTotal: 290/1022 MB VirtMemFreeTotal: 1969/2047 MB CommandLine: C:\Batmail\thebat.exe /NOLOGO Address: 0044C239 ClassName: EOSErrorW Message: System Error. Code: 121. Message: The semaphore timeout period has expired. Location: ConnectToRemoteServerPipe; WaitNamedPipe try counter exceeded IsOSException: 0 Modules: 0040 20080616160320 C:\Batmail\thebat.exe Stack: 0044C239 [0040] 0044C234 [0040] 00A4C8CA [0040] 00C49054 [0040] 00C49B4D [0040] 00C4DFC2 [0040] 00C52D84 [0040] Current beta is 4.0.24.23 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.22
Dear Maxim, @16-Jun-2008, 19:09 +0300 (16-Jun 17:09 here) Maxim Masiutin [MM] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: MM [-] Fixed an AV that might happen when simultaneously checking multiple accounts with TLS I have been having to task-manager close a locked TB at least twice a day up to this version and I *do* have multiple accounts with TLS. So far, I haven't had that problem with this build. I'll keep watching. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v4.0.24.22 on Windows Vista 6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 ' pgpTluOFwplFJ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.24.22 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.22
am Montag, 16. Juni 2008 um 18:09 schrieb Maxim Masiutin: The Bat! 4.0.24.22 is available up+running -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.24.22 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.0.24.22 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.22
am Montag, 16. Juni 2008 um 19:49 schrieb Richard Newman: MM but attachments are still opened twice. I'm starting to believe that someone thinks they are supposed to open twice. :-) Hm, if somebody suggested this to be WAD, normally nobody is informed. You maybe could be right? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.24.22 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.0.24.22 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.22
Hi Maxim, Monday, June 16, 2008, 10:09:02 AM, you wrote: The Bat! 4.0.24.22 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb402422.rar What's new in 4.0.24.22 since 4.0.24.21: [-] Fixed an AV that might happen when simultaneously checking multiple accounts with TLS Up an running with no problems using any of the features I use - except the well-reported phenomenon of attachments opening twice. -- Bon Jour, Messieurs! Bob -- Using The Bat! 4.0.24.22 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.0.24.22 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.22
Hello all, Tuesday, June 17, 2008, Bob Riley wrote: What's new in 4.0.24.22 since 4.0.24.21: [-] Fixed an AV that might happen when simultaneously checking multiple accounts with TLS Up an running with no problems using any of the features I use - except the well-reported phenomenon of attachments opening twice. it is already fixed, wait for next build. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.24.22 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 2.8.1.1 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 4.0.24.22 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.22
Hello Marek, Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 2:43:40 PM, you wrote: MM it is already fixed, wait for next build. Will folder views also work in the next build? -- Best regards, Richardmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Using The Bat! v4.0.24.11 on Windows XP5 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.24.22 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.22
Hi Maxim, The Bat! 4.0.24.22 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb402422.rar What's new in 4.0.24.22 since 4.0.24.21: [-] Fixed an AV that might happen when simultaneously checking multiple accounts with TLS Just so you know: I use TLS on at least six accounts that are querying the server constantly, and I've never had an AV whist this was happening. But I'm using AntispamSniper too, so that could be a difference. -- Neal Using TheBat! v4.0.24.22 on Windows XP Service Pack 3 AntispamSniper 2.8.1.1 OTFE enabled Current beta is 4.0.24.22 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.22
Hello Richard, On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:25:58 -0400 GMT (18/06/2008, 03:25 +0700 GMT), Richard Newman wrote: RN Hello Marek, RN Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 2:43:40 PM, you wrote: MM it is already fixed, wait for next build. RN Will folder views also work in the next build? And how about the Unread tab? -- Cheers, Thomas. A truly wise man never plays leapfrog with a unicorn. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.24.11 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.24.22 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
4.0.24.22
The Bat! 4.0.24.22 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb402422.rar What's new in 4.0.24.22 since 4.0.24.21: [-] Fixed an AV that might happen when simultaneously checking multiple accounts with TLS Current beta is 4.0.24.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.22
Hello Maxim, Monday, June 16, 2008, 12:09:02 PM, you wrote: MM The Bat! 4.0.24.22 is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb402422.rar Ok. View modes still not sticking to particular tree folders. -- Best regards, Richardmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Using The Bat! v4.0.24.22 on Windows XP5 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.24.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.22
Hello Marek, Monday, June 16, 2008, 1:40:29 PM, you wrote: MM but attachments are still opened twice. I'm starting to believe that someone thinks they are supposed to open twice. :-) -- Best regards, Richardmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Using The Bat! v4.0.24.22 on Windows XP5 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.24.22 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.22
Hello all, Monday, June 16, 2008, Maxim Masiutin wrote: The Bat! 4.0.24.22 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb402422.rar What's new in 4.0.24.22 since 4.0.24.21: [-] Fixed an AV that might happen when simultaneously checking multiple accounts with TLS up running but attachments are still opened twice. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.24.22 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 2.8.1.1 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 4.0.24.22 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.22
Hi Marek, but attachments are still opened twice. confirmed. Especially with pictures. It opens the standard image viewer and the internal TB! viewer - annoying. -- Best wishes Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu Current beta is 4.0.24.22 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
