Re: Empty space end of list
Hello Thomas, On Fri, 6 May 2005 21:46:46 +0700 GMT (06/05/2005, 21:46 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF I confirm that scrolling with the scrollbar shows the empty space TF again. TF And when I have a folder with that empty space, move to anotehr TF folder and then back to that folder, the empty space is gone. I just hit alt-click on the sender to find this message of mine. I had a huge empty space at the bottom. :-( But the reason I looked for this message is an additional report: The messages list pane is just so big that I can see the upper quarter of the next message's headers. (Hm, this sounds weird, so I'd better attach a screenshot). The reason for this is when I click on the last fully visible line, the message list moves up one line and the next message becomes the one under my cursor. This is *very* useful in the office where I leave the cursor and the same place, don't move the mouse, but only left-click to get the next unread message shown in the preview pane. I do this often daily when I skip through the department addresses. All unread messages are in the Inbox at the time, no threading. With the new behaviour of the message in this RC, that won't work any more. I will move to scroll or move the mouse, reducing efficiency to an unbearable point. I now glance over shipment pre-advices or so for maybe a quarter of a second and then go to the next message, stopping only when I see something extraordinary - a customer complaint, for example. These don't happen often. If I need to move the mouse for each of the 100 or 200 routine messages in each department account, it will cost me 300% of the time to skip through the messages. No guys, please reinstate the old behaviour of the message list, completely with no empty space at the bottom and all. -- Cheers, Thomas. Dates are for having fun, and people should use them to get to know each other. Even boys have something to say if you listen long enough. (Lynnette, age 8) Message reply created with The Bat! 3.5 Return RC4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 attachment: MessageList.jpg Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty space end of list
Hello Thomas, On Fri, 6 May 2005 21:46:46 +0700 GMT (06/05/2005, 21:46 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF I confirm that scrolling with the scrollbar shows the empty space TF again. TF And when I have a folder with that empty space, move to anotehr TF folder and then back to that folder, the empty space is gone. I just hit alt-click on the sender to find this message of mine. I had a huge empty space at the bottom. :-( But the reason I looked for this message is an additional report: The messages list pane is just so big that I can see the upper quarter of the next message's headers. (Hm, this sounds weird, so I'd better attach a screenshot). The reason for this is when I click on the last fully visible line, the message list moves up one line and the next message becomes the one under my cursor. This is *very* useful in the office where I leave the cursor and the same place, don't move the mouse, but only left-click to get the next unread message shown in the preview pane. I do this often daily when I skip through the department addresses. All unread messages are in the Inbox at the time, no threading. With the new behaviour of the message in this RC, that won't work any more. I will move to scroll or move the mouse, reducing efficiency to an unbearable point. I now glance over shipment pre-advices or so for maybe a quarter of a second and then go to the next message, stopping only when I see something extraordinary - a customer complaint, for example. These don't happen often. If I need to move the mouse for each of the 100 or 200 routine messages in each department account, it will cost me 300% of the time to skip through the messages. No guys, please reinstate the old behaviour of the message list, completely with no empty space at the bottom and all. -- Cheers, Thomas. Dates are for having fun, and people should use them to get to know each other. Even boys have something to say if you listen long enough. (Lynnette, age 8) Message reply created with The Bat! 3.5 Return RC4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2attachment: MessageList.jpg Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty space end of list
Hello Thomas, On Sat, 7 May 2005 18:54:56 +0700 GMT (07/05/2005, 18:54 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF I just hit alt-click on the sender to find this message of mine. I TF had a huge empty space at the bottom. :-( Another one: Delete the last message in the message list. An empty space remains. TF No guys, please reinstate the old behaviour of the message list, TF completely with no empty space at the bottom and all. -- Cheers, Thomas. Wer anderen die Stube fegt, will selber 'rein. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.5 Return RC4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty space end of list
Hello Thomas, On Sat, 7 May 2005 18:23:38 +0700 GMT (07/05/2005, 18:23 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF No guys, please reinstate the old behaviour of the message list, TF completely with no empty space at the bottom and all. Any seconders? -- Cheers, Thomas. My old aunts used to come up to me at weddings, poking me in the ribs and cackling, telling me, You're next! They stopped after I started doing the same thing to them at funerals. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.5 Return RC4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty space end of list
Hello Thomas, TF No guys, please reinstate the old behaviour of the message list, TF completely with no empty space at the bottom and all. Any seconders? It's a known bug and I assume it will be fixed sooner or later. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC4 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Winamp Playing: Diana Krall - Cry Me A River (Smoothjazz.Com - The worlds best Smooth Jazz - Live From Monterey Bay) Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty space end of list
Hello MAU, On Sat, 7 May 2005 19:00:35 +0200 GMT (08/05/2005, 00:00 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: M It's a known bug and I assume it will be fixed sooner or later. Thanks, I just saw it in Peter's list. I hope this will be fixed before the release, so that I can use the new version also in the office - I like the new interface. -- Cheers, Thomas. My wife and I were happy for twenty years then we met. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.5 Return RC5 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty space end of list
Hello Thomas, On Fri, 6 May 2005 01:00:42 +0700 GMT (06/05/2005, 01:00 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF I confirm that scrolling with the scrollbar shows the empty space TF again. And when I have a folder with that empty space, move to anotehr folder and then back to that folder, the empty space is gone. -- Cheers, Thomas. 2000 jahriges Bad Goegging wird 70 Jahre alt. * Message reply created with The Bat! 3.5 Return RC4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty space end of list
Hello Thomas, TF I confirm that scrolling with the scrollbar shows the empty space TF again. And when I have a folder with that empty space, move to anotehr folder and then back to that folder, the empty space is gone. It's a problem with vertical scroll bars not properly scaled. It was reported many moons, I mean betas, ago and still unfixed. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC4 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Winamp Playing: Kenny Loggins f. Michael McDonald - What A Fool Believes (Smoothjazz.Com - The worlds best Smooth Jazz - Live From Monterey Bay) Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Empty space end of list
Hi MAU On Friday, May 6, 2005 5:43:22 PM you wrote: Hello Thomas, TF I confirm that scrolling with the scrollbar shows the empty space TF again. And when I have a folder with that empty space, move to anotehr folder and then back to that folder, the empty space is gone. It's a problem with vertical scroll bars not properly scaled. It was reported many moons, I mean betas, ago and still unfixed. Perhaps this bug (and a lot of others) are classified as not important - and will be forgotten as a lot of very old bugs as well... -- Best regards, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat! 3.5 Return RC4 on Windows 98 4.10 A Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Empty space end of list
Hi Thomas On Friday, May 6, 2005 4:46:46 PM you wrote: Hello Thomas, On Fri, 6 May 2005 01:00:42 +0700 GMT (06/05/2005, 01:00 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF I confirm that scrolling with the scrollbar shows the empty space TF again. And when I have a folder with that empty space, move to anotehr folder and then back to that folder, the empty space is gone. I can't confirm this behaviour - empty space still there. -- Best regards, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat! 3.5 Return RC4 on Windows 98 4.10 A Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty space end of list
Hello Martin, Perhaps this bug (and a lot of others) are classified as not important - and will be forgotten as a lot of very old bugs as well... No, it is on Peter's list of unfixed bugs. See his mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC4 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Empty space end of list
Hello tbbeta, The empty space bug at the end of the message list still exists in RC2. -- Best regards, Martin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]attachment: empyspace.jpg Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty space end of list
Hello Martin, On Thu, 5 May 2005 19:04:26 +0200 GMT (06/05/2005, 00:04 +0700 GMT), Martin Schoch wrote: MS The empty space bug at the end of the message list still exists in MS RC2. Confirmed, and it's kind of annoying. Additional info: If you scroll up the message list and then down again, that empty space is not shown any more. -- Cheers, Thomas. I am loyal to my employer at all costs Please feel free to respond to my resume on my office voice mail. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty space end of list
Hello Thomas Fernandez everyone else, on 05-Mai-2005 at 19:44 you (Thomas Fernandez) wrote: Additional info: If you scroll up the message list and then down again, that empty space is not shown any more. Only if I'm scrolling with the keyboard. Using the scrollbar shows the empty space all the time. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Blessed are the young, for they shall inherit the national debt. Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Empty space end of list
Hello Thomas, Thursday, May 5, 2005, 7:44:44 PM, you wrote: Hello Martin, On Thu, 5 May 2005 19:04:26 +0200 GMT (06/05/2005, 00:04 +0700 GMT), Martin Schoch wrote: MS The empty space bug at the end of the message list still exists in MS RC2. Confirmed, and it's kind of annoying. Additional info: If you scroll up the message list and then down again, that empty space is not shown any more. Can not confirm your additional info - the empty space is still there. -- Best regards, Martinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Empty space end of list
Hi Alexander On Thursday, May 5, 2005 7:48:13 PM you wrote: Hello Thomas Fernandez everyone else, on 05-Mai-2005 at 19:44 you (Thomas Fernandez) wrote: Additional info: If you scroll up the message list and then down again, that empty space is not shown any more. Only if I'm scrolling with the keyboard. Using the scrollbar shows the empty space all the time. But then the bar on the right side displays an empty space before the end - see picture. -- Best regards, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat! 3.5 Return RC2 on Windows 98 4.10 A attachment: emptyspace2.jpg Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty space end of list
Dear Martin, @5-May-2005, 19:48 +0200 (05-May 18:48 UK time) Martin Schoch [MS] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Thomas: MS The empty space bug at the end of the message list still exists in MS RC2. Confirmed, and it's kind of annoying. Additional info: If you scroll up the message list and then down again, that empty space is not shown any more. MS Can not confirm your additional info - the empty space is still MS there. It is there ... but only scrolled into if you move the scrollbar thumb. If you use the mouse wheel to scroll, the list will stop at the correct place but the scrollbar will show more data available. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.5 Return RC2 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpF3YoGVFRP0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty space end of list
Hello Alexander, On Thu, 5 May 2005 19:48:13 +0200 GMT (06/05/2005, 00:48 +0700 GMT), Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Additional info: If you scroll up the message list and then down again, that empty space is not shown any more. ASK Only if I'm scrolling with the keyboard. Using the scrollbar shows the ASK empty space all the time. I scroll with the scroll-wheel on the mouse. I confirm that scrolling with the scrollbar shows the empty space again. -- Cheers, Thomas. There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home. -- Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977 Message reply created with The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty space end of list
Hi Martin On Thursday, May 5, 2005 7:04:26 PM you wrote: The empty space bug at the end of the message list still exists in RC2. BTW - the empty space problem I found in the account/folder list, too. -- Best regards, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat! 3.5 Return RC2 on Windows 98 4.10 A Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty space end of list
Hello Marck, MS Can not confirm your additional info - the empty space is still MS there. It is there ... but only scrolled into if you move the scrollbar thumb. If you use the mouse wheel to scroll, the list will stop at the correct place but the scrollbar will show more data available. Correct. On March 8th in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I wrote: ,- [ ] | I am sure many of you have seen that sometimes the message list pane, or | the account/folder tree doesn't seem to scroll properly. This is what I | have verified. | | If vertical scroll is done by clicking on the lower arrow icon, or by | using the down arrow key or even using the End key, the scroll is done | correctly and it stops when the last message (or folder or account) is | displayed at the bottom of the pane. But look at Scroll_1.png attached. | In theses cases, the slider button does not move to the very bottom of | the slider and, if you drag this button further down, the pane will | scroll further showing some white space at the bottom (see | Scroll_2.png). `- For me it is still the same. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC2 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
