Re: HTML media

2021-07-31 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Thomas,

On Sat, 31 Jul 2021 16:47:48 + GMT (31-Jul-21, 8:33 +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:

> Hello MAU,

> On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 20:22:20 +0200 GMT (31-Jul-21, 1:22 +0700 GMT),
> MAU wrote:

>>> How about a button on the received message to create a rule, as we
>>> used to have? Right now, I have a button to decide to dwonload
>>> pictures of rthis message, and it would be good to have the choice
>>> to create the rule again, i.e. "always download images from this URL".

>> And which is "this URL"?. A single message may have more than just one
>> URL.

> I mean the sender. We used to have an menu item for that when clicking on the 
> IDM in the past.

I now have choicxes, such as "Download images for this message" and "Download 
images" (which I assume means all images for all messages).

So to be precise, my suggestion is to add a choice "Always download images from 
this sender". And then this sender will be added to the IDM. I htink this is 
how it worked in the past.

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Re: HTML media

2021-07-31 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas,

> How about a button on the received message to create a rule, as we
> used to have? Right now, I have a button to decide to dwonload
> pictures of rthis message, and it would be good to have the choice
> to create the rule again, i.e. "always download images from this URL".

And which is "this URL"?. A single message may have more than just one
URL.

> Having to copy the URL and paste it manually into Tools / Image
> Download Manager / Create Rule and then paste it, is not efficient.

You  don't  need  to  copy  the  URL and paste it. Just open the Image
Download  Manager  and on the Downloads tab select the URL you want to
create the rule for and click on Create Rule button.

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Re: HTML media

2021-07-31 Thread Gunivortus Goos
Hello Stefan,


> By "known" actually meant URLs  allowed by download rules there.

This is both confusing and costs time, each day again.
Each morning, after starting my pc and The Bat!, I mark pro inbound
the spam mails, send them to the Spamtrap at the mailserver and
add them as spam in Antispamsniper.
 
It might be an idea to also blacklist the URLs or adresses of those
marked spam mails in a blacklist tied to the IDL. 

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Re: HTML media

2021-07-30 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU,

On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 20:22:20 +0200 GMT (31-Jul-21, 1:22 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

>> How about a button on the received message to create a rule, as we
>> used to have? Right now, I have a button to decide to dwonload
>> pictures of rthis message, and it would be good to have the choice
>> to create the rule again, i.e. "always download images from this URL".

> And which is "this URL"?. A single message may have more than just one
> URL.

I mean the sender. We used to have an menu item for that when clicking on the 
IDM in the past.

>> Having to copy the URL and paste it manually into Tools / Image
>> Download Manager / Create Rule and then paste it, is not efficient.

> You  don't  need  to  copy  the  URL and paste it. Just open the Image
> Download  Manager  and on the Downloads tab select the URL you want to
> create the rule for and click on Create Rule button.

I didn't see anything like that just now. I saw a whole confusing list of URLs. 
When clicking on the tab Rules, I saw some email addresses that I had 
whitelisted earlier. Something like this I would expect, so that I just need to 
click OK. Or, as in the past, a menu item "Whitelist this sender" in addition 
to "Open IDM". Will make for increased work efficiency.


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Re: HTML media

2021-07-30 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Stefan,

On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 12:32:24 +0300 GMT (30-Jul-21, 16:32 +0700 GMT),
Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote:

>> How about a button on the received message to create a rule, as we used to 
>> have?

> I think it's a good point :)  Actually, we have some relatively fresh ideas 
> about image download management, we're going to come up with some in future 
> (I hope).

I am looking forward to what is going to come! ;-)

>> By the way, in the drop-down menu under Tools, there is an arrow missing 
>> after the words "Image Download Manager".

> There was no arrow after "Image Download Manager", AFAIR - at least the menu 
> structure didn't change, we've just re-enabled the menu command and made it 
> visible.

I mentioned this with consistency in mind. It's cosmetic only. All other menu 
items that do not directly create action when clicked on, but offer a choice or 
soemthing else to clock before an action is taken, have an arrow.

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Re: HTML media

2021-07-30 Thread Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA
Hello Thomas, 

> How about a button on the received message to create a rule, as we used to 
> have? 

I think it's a good point :)  Actually, we have some relatively fresh ideas 
about image download management, we're going to come up with some in future (I 
hope).

> By the way, in the drop-down menu under Tools, there is an arrow missing 
> after the words "Image Download Manager".

There was no arrow after "Image Download Manager", AFAIR - at least the menu 
structure didn't change, we've just re-enabled the menu command and made it 
visible.

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Re: HTML media

2021-07-30 Thread Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA
Hello Gunivortus, 



> It was set to: Deny unknown.
> However, when is a sender unknown?

This is just an old wording and it just confirms my hyphothesis that the 
setting in the preferences is out of sync with the old setting of the image 
download manager ("Deny unknown" was the default before switching to Chromium 
Engine).
 
By "known" actually meant URLs  allowed by download rules there.
 

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Re: HTML media

2021-07-30 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Friday, July 30, 2021, 09:23:40, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

> How about a button on the received message to create a rule, as we used to 
> have? 

Agreed – the Image Download Manager should not be buried in the menu.

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Re: HTML media

2021-07-30 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Stefan,

On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 09:57:17 +0300 GMT (30-Jul-21, 13:57 +0700 GMT),
Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote:

>> In Preferences - HTML Viewer - Download external Media, it is set to 
>> "Automatically for all sources".
>> Nonetheless, both in older and new HTML mails, the pictures are not visible 
>> anymore.
>>  Yet, I'd like to have them in the mails to prevent me getting them for each 
>> mail separately.

> Please open the "Tools | Image Download Manager" and look at the Rules page - 
> what do you see there as the "Filter Type"? (I guess, we should rename it). 
> Presumably, you have something like "Deny all" or "Deny unknown".

How about a button on the received message to create a rule, as we used to 
have? Right now, I have a button to decide to dwonload pictures of rthis 
message, and it would be good to have the choice to create the rule again, i.e. 
"always download images from this URL".

Having to copy the URL and paste it manually into Tools / Image Download 
Manager / Create Rule and then paste it, is not efficient.

By the way, in the drop-down menu under Tools, there is an arrow missing after 
the words "Image Download Manager".

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Re: HTML media

2021-07-30 Thread Gunivortus Goos
Hello Stefan,

> Please open the "Tools | Image Download Manager" and look at the Rules page - 
> what do you see there as the "Filter Type"? (I guess, we should rename it). 
> Presumably, you have something like "Deny all" or "Deny unknown". 

It was set to: Deny unknown.
However, when is a sender unknown?

I am a long.time PayPal user, use it several times a week, and so,
I would not see consider paypal.com as unknown. Yet, all media of
my PayPal emails, (I've even a special folder for them) were grayed
out.
It is the same for companies I am subscribed to, to get their news, 
such as CCleaner, Ebay.de, etc.
I do not have any of them in an address book, as most of them
are newsletters - one-way mails.

I've set it now to allow all, but that is not preferred, as I do not need
media from spam mails, be they about bitcoins, sex or medicine
'offers'.

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Re: HTML media

2021-07-30 Thread Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA
Hello Gunivortus, 


> In Preferences - HTML Viewer - Download external Media, it is set to 
> "Automatically for all sources".
> Nonetheless, both in older and new HTML mails, the pictures are not visible 
> anymore.
>  Yet, I'd like to have them in the mails to prevent me getting them for each 
> mail separately.

Please open the "Tools | Image Download Manager" and look at the Rules page - 
what do you see there as the "Filter Type"? (I guess, we should rename it). 
Presumably, you have something like "Deny all" or "Deny unknown". 


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HTML media

2021-07-29 Thread Gunivortus Goos
Hello,

In Preferences - HTML Viewer - Download external Media, it is set to 
"Automatically for all sources".
Nonetheless, both in older and new HTML mails, the pictures are not visible 
anymore.
 Yet, I'd like to have them in the mails to prevent me getting them for each 
mail separately.

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