Re: IMAP Expunge not working

2010-11-21 Thread Raymund Tump
Hi Stefan,

I emptied my spam folder and the web interface now shows all the
messages stroke through. But regardless which menu item I choose no
expunge command is sent to the server.

The same problem exists if you set up a move filter for an IMAP
folder. The message is moved but not deleted/expunged from the server.

More over I just found a mismatch between the counters in TB! and the
webinterface. TB! shows 0 unread messages for a folder while the
webinterface shows 1.

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Re: IMAP Expunge not working

2010-11-20 Thread Raymund Tump
Hi Gary and Stefan,

 You  should  switch  the  protocol  logging  on  to  see what actually
 happens.  Here,  I  see the Expunge commands sent and executed with no
 problem.

I did that and I can't see any EXPUNGE in any of the four IMAP logs I
get.

Maxim has a working GMX account maybe you could use that for testing?

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Raymund
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Re: IMAP Expunge not working

2010-11-20 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello Raymund,


 You  should  switch  the  protocol  logging  on  to  see what actually
 happens.  Here,  I  see the Expunge commands sent and executed with no
 problem.

RT I did that and I can't see any EXPUNGE in any of the four IMAP logs I
RT get.


Here's  what  I  get in my log when I delete messages and then use the
Folder|Compact command:

20.11.2010 12:47:17 C: 00048 UID STORE 321,346,350,355 +FLAGS (\Deleted \Seen)
20.11.2010 12:47:17 S: * 50 FETCH (FLAGS (\Deleted \Seen) UID 321)
20.11.2010 12:47:18 S: * 65 FETCH (FLAGS (\Deleted \Seen) UID 346)
20.11.2010 12:47:18 S: * 69 FETCH (FLAGS (\Deleted \Seen) UID 350)
20.11.2010 12:47:18 S: * 74 FETCH (FLAGS (\Deleted \Seen) UID 355)
20.11.2010 12:47:18 S: 00048 OK UID STORE completed
20.11.2010 12:47:33 C: 00049 EXPUNGE
20.11.2010 12:47:33 S: * 50 EXPUNGE
20.11.2010 12:47:33 S: * 64 EXPUNGE
20.11.2010 12:47:33 S: * 67 EXPUNGE
20.11.2010 12:47:33 S: * 71 EXPUNGE
20.11.2010 12:47:33 S: 00049 OK EXPUNGE completed
20.11.2010 12:47:33 C: 00050 UID FETCH 372:* (UID RFC822.SIZE INTERNALDATE 
FLAGS ENVELOPE BODYSTRUCTURE)
20.11.2010 12:47:33 S: * 86 FETCH (UID 371 RFC822.SIZE 4683...)
20.11.2010 12:47:33 S: 00050 OK UID FETCH completed


RT Maxim has a working GMX account maybe you could use that for testing?

I  don't  think  it  somehow  depends on the server used, but I'll ask
Maxim to do some testing on GMX anyway...


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Re: IMAP Expunge not working

2010-11-19 Thread Gary
Hi Stefan,

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 06:46:42AM +0200 or thereabouts, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:
 Hello Gary,
 
 G I am still seeing messages only marked for deletion in various folders,
 G but not actually expunged.
 
 You  should  switch  the  protocol  logging  on  to  see what actually
 happens.  Here,  I  see the Expunge commands sent and executed with no
 problem.

I did some checking, and this is what I found in my logs. There is no
EXPUNGE command given by TB .106 seen either in my TB logs or in my IMAP
server logs. I will list part of the server logs below. I just shows the
DELETE command given, but not EXPUNGE. I also see this in the TB logs, no
EXPUNGE command given. 

Just to make sure, can you tell me what function in TB, or what do I have
to do to force TB to give the EXPUNGE command?  I have tried (in Folder
Pane) to either compact or compact/compress (CTRL+C) and these do not
issue the EXPUNGE command to the server? 

If I select a Folder, and go to Edit Folder Properties, under Exit Actions
Section, if I check Remove Old Messages, what does this mean?  Will this
cause an EXPUNGE, or will this just delete old messages, and what is the
definition of Old Messages?  

Since TB is moving more to the IMAP functionality, I would like to see an
actual Expunge command, called Expunge, which I can assign a hotkey to,
either in the Folder Pane, or Information Pane, as people or organizations
who use IMAP are already familiar with this function name.

Below is just a partial of my server IMAP logs. Throughout the entire
session which I have not enclosed due to its length, there was not one
EXPUNGE command received by the mail server when using TB. 

Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- * OK IMAP4rev1 ready
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- 1 CAPABILITY
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- * CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 NAMESPACE
AUTH=CRAM-MD5 AUTH=LOGIN AUTH=PLAIN IDLE STARTTLS ACL UNSELECT UIDPLUS
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- 1 OK CAPABILITY completed
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- 2 LOGIN g...@x **
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- 2 OK LOGIN completed
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- 3 STATUS Public Folders/Mail Archive
(MESSAGES UNSEEN RECENT UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY)
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- * STATUS Public Folders/Mail Archive
(MESSAGES 0 UNSEEN 0 RECENT 0 UIDNEXT 1 UIDVALIDITY 1278443348)
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- 3 OK STATUS completed
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- 4 SELECT Public Folders/Mail Archive
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- * FLAGS (\Seen \Answered \Flagged \Deleted
\Draft \Recent)
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- * 0 EXISTS
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- * 0 RECENT
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1278443348] UIDs valid
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- * OK [UIDNEXT 1] Predicted next UID
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Seen \Answered
\Flagged \Deleted \Draft)] .
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- 4 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- 5 UID SEARCH 1:* DELETED
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- * SEARCH
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- 5 OK SEARCH completed
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- 6 UID SEARCH 1:* UNSEEN
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- * SEARCH
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- 6 OK SEARCH completed
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- 7 UID SEARCH 1:* DELETED
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- * SEARCH
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- 7 OK SEARCH completed
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- 8 UID SEARCH 1:* UNSEEN
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- * SEARCH
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- 8 OK SEARCH completed
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- 9 STATUS Outbox (MESSAGES UNSEEN RECENT
UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY)
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- * STATUS Outbox (MESSAGES 0 UNSEEN 0 RECENT
0 UIDNEXT 4 UIDVALIDITY 1245686814)
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- 9 OK STATUS completed
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- 00010 SELECT Outbox
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- * FLAGS (\Seen \Answered \Flagged \Deleted
\Draft \Recent)
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- * 0 EXISTS
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- * 0 RECENT
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1245686814] UIDs valid
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- * OK [UIDNEXT 4] Predicted next UID
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Seen \Answered
\Flagged \Deleted \Draft)] .
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- 00010 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- 00011 UID SEARCH 1:* DELETED
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- * SEARCH
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- 00011 OK SEARCH completed
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- 00012 UID SEARCH 1:* UNSEEN
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- * SEARCH
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- 00012 OK SEARCH completed
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- 00013 UID SEARCH 1:* DELETED
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- * SEARCH
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- 00013 OK SEARCH completed
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- 00014 UID SEARCH 1:* UNSEEN
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- * SEARCH
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:47: -- 00014 OK SEARCH completed
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:48: -- 00015 IDLE
Fri 2010-11-19 08:04:48: -- + idling
Fri 2010-11-19 08:05:29: Socket connection closed by the other side 
Fri 

Re: IMAP Expunge not working

2010-11-18 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello Gary,

G Seems all mail deleted never does get deleted,
G just marked for deletion, but never really expunged.

This is fixed in the .106 as well as purging is now available for IMAP
folders .


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   When I went to school, my teachers told me what to do.
   Now I'm married, and my husband tells me what to do.
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Re: IMAP Expunge not working

2010-11-18 Thread Gary
Hi Stefan,

I am still seeing messages only marked for deletion in various folders,
but not actually expunged. My default delete setting is to move to trash.
I have tried using Ctrl+C on the particular folder, as well as the purge
and compact action in the information tab with no results, using .106.

Kindest regards,

Gary

On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 22:03:46 +0200 UTC (11/18/2010, 2:03 PM -0600 UTC my
time), Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

S Hello Gary,

G Seems all mail deleted never does get deleted,
G just marked for deletion, but never really expunged.

S This is fixed in the .106 as well as purging is now available for IMAP
S folders .






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Re: IMAP Expunge not working

2010-11-18 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello Gary,

G I am still seeing messages only marked for deletion in various folders,
G but not actually expunged.

You  should  switch  the  protocol  logging  on  to  see what actually
happens.  Here,  I  see the Expunge commands sent and executed with no
problem.


G My default delete setting is to move to trash. I have tried using
G Ctrl+C on the particular folder, as well as the purge and compact
G action in the information tab with no results, using .106.

OK,  here  I  see  a little problem - looks like Ctrl+C pressed in the
folderpane   (which  is also Folder|Compact) and clicking links on
information pane are different. So, using the commands from the Folder
menu  should now produce expected results and we must change the links
behaviour accordingly :-)




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Re: IMAP Expunge not working

2010-11-18 Thread Gary
Hi Stefan,

On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 06:46:42 +0200 UTC (11/18/2010, 10:46 PM -0600 UTC my
time), Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

S Hello Gary,

G I am still seeing messages only marked for deletion in various folders,
G but not actually expunged.

S You  should  switch  the  protocol  logging  on  to  see what actually
S happens.  Here,  I  see the Expunge commands sent and executed with no
S problem.

I will do this tomorrow morning as new email comes in and report back.

I will also look at the IMAP logs on my mail server, relative to the time
of purging, and send you anything out of the ordinary.

G My default delete setting is to move to trash. I have tried using
G Ctrl+C on the particular folder, as well as the purge and compact
G action in the information tab with no results, using .106.

S OK,  here  I  see  a little problem - looks like Ctrl+C pressed in the
S folderpane   (which  is also Folder|Compact) and clicking links on
S information pane are different.

In the Folder pane, Ctrl+C is listed as purge+compact

S So, using the commands from the Folder menu should now produce
S expected results and we must change the links behaviour accordingly :-)

Ah, Okay. I will use the commands from the Folder Menu and report back.

-- 
Gary






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IMAP Expunge not working

2010-11-17 Thread Gary
Hi guys,

Using 5.0.0.104, and throughout all the 5.0.0 alphas, I note the following

When using Move to Trash as a normal deletion, and either compact when
exiting or manually purge and compact with a Ctrl+C, when looking inside
my IMAP server, or looking at the INBOX with other IMAP email clients, I
see all deleted mail marked for deletion, but not actually deleted. This
happens in all folders. Seems all mail deleted never does get deleted,
just marked for deletion, but never really expunged.

Since the IMAP code has been competely rewritten (nice job BTW, much
faster), I would like to see in the Account Properties / Mail Management /
Deletion section, an option to actually say and perform an Expunge, and
where I can assign this function to a hotkey. This is truly for the IMAP
spec. 

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 Gary   






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