Re: On-the-fly-encryption

2005-05-07 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Friday, May 6, 2005, Peter Meyns wrote:

 which install file do I need for On-the-fly encryption? I have OTFE
 implemented here on my PC with v3.0.2.10 (which I also don't find on
 Ritlabs' site, although it is running very smoothly...?)

this is betaversion and 3.0.2 will not be released officially

  I'd like to
 implement it on my laptop too, but I forgot, how I did it here on the
 PC...

 3.1.33.msi doesn't seem to offer it... hmm

OTFE is not included in 3.0.1.33, it appeared in this beta cycle.

If You install it for the first time, select On-The-Fly encryption in
first dialog, which will appear.

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Re: On-the-fly-encryption

2005-05-07 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Marek,

on Sat, 7 May 2005 14:17:31 +0200GMT, you wrote:

 which install file do I need for On-the-fly encryption?

 3.1.33.msi doesn't seem to offer it... hmm

MM OTFE is not included in 3.0.1.33, it appeared in this beta cycle.

Yes, I remember that. I have OTFE installed on my PC, but I don't
remember, nor do i find the install file that I might use for my
notebook.

MM If You install it for the first time, select On-The-Fly encryption in
MM first dialog, which will appear.

Well, yes, but install from which file? I installed from 3.1.33.msi,
but as you stated, there is no such option.

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Re: On-the-fly-encryption

2005-05-07 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Peter!

On Saturday, May 07, 2005, 8:09 AM, you wrote:

MM If You install it for the first time, select On-The-Fly encryption in
MM first dialog, which will appear.

 Well, yes, but install from which file? I installed from 3.1.33.msi,
 but as you stated, there is no such option.

3.0.2.10 has this. However, I do not see it offered at
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/index.php?login=yes

Only 3.0.2.8.

I have it zipped as a rar file (WinRar), size 3.30 MB. Did you buy the
professional version of 3.0.1.33? If not, you would not have the key
to install 3.0.2.10.

If you did buy the professional version, you would need to install
3.0.2.10 directly over 3.0.1.33. Your only opportunity to choose OFTE
is during this installation. And, it's not reversible. As I understand
it, once this option is chosen, it requires a complete uninstall to
put 3.0.2.10 on without OTFE enabled.

If you need this rar file, I could try to send it to you as an
attachment.

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Re: On-the-fly-encryption

2005-05-07 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Mary!

On Saturday, May 07, 2005, 8:41 AM, you wrote:

 If you did buy the professional version, you would need to install
 3.0.2.10 directly over 3.0.1.33. Your only opportunity to choose OFTE
 is during this installation.

Aargh! Typo beast struck again!! OTFE--On-The-Fly-Encryption.

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Re: On-the-fly-encryption

2005-05-07 Thread MAU
Hello Peter,

MM If You install it for the first time, select On-The-Fly encryption in
MM first dialog, which will appear.
 
 Well, yes, but install from which file? I installed from 3.1.33.msi,
 but as you stated, there is no such option.

I have found this in case it helps:

Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 12:12:33 -0600 (CST)
From: Allie Martin

,- [  ]
|  Would someone mind explaining the procedure for enabling 'On The Fly
|  Encryption' with this latest TB Pro Beta 3.0.2.7?
| 
| - Backup TB! using the TB! backup.
| 
| - Backup TB! by exporting the registry key to file and Backing up the
|   installation directory and mail directories. This is the failsafe in
|   case the TB! backup fails you.
| 
| - Unistall TB! completely.
| 
| - Reinstall TB! using one of the MSI installers and then overwrite the
|   TB! executable with the new beta, i.e., v3.0.2.7. *DO NOT* run the new
|   installation prior to overwriting the executable with the new beta.
| 
| - When the new beta runs, it will ask if you wish to use on the fly
|   encryption. Choose that. You can then go on to restore from backup
|   rather than creating fresh accounts.
| 
| 
| If you wish to keep your current installation going and try this on the
| fly encryption, you can create a parallel installation that uses its own
| registry branch.
| 
| - Copy your installation directory to another folder.
| 
| - Overwrite the TB! executable in that new folder with the current beta
|   executable
| 
| - Create a shortcut to the new executable and then go in the properties
|   of the shortcut. To the executable path, add the reg: parameter so
|   that it's like this.
|   C:/Program Files/new folder/thebat.exe /reg:Beta
|   This will lead to the building of a new registry branch on execution.
| 
| - Run TB! using that shortcut and you'll be prompted for using on the
|   fly encryption etc.
`-

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Re: On-the-fly-encryption

2005-05-07 Thread Henk M. de Bruijn
On Sat, 7 May 2005, at 15:09:38 [GMT +0200] (which was 15:09 where I
live) Peter Meyns wrote:

Hi Peter,

...snip

 Well, yes, but install from which file? I installed from 3.1.33.msi,
 but as you stated, there is no such option.

If I remember well you have to do a clean/new install.

So after backing up, you have to delete all the entries in the registry.

Then when you start the bat.exe, the program asks about OTFE.

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Re: On-the-fly-encryption

2005-05-07 Thread Henk M. de Bruijn
On Sat, 7 May 2005, at 15:59:51 [GMT +0200] (which was 15:59 where I
live) Henk de Bruijn wrote:

 On Sat, 7 May 2005, at 15:09:38 [GMT +0200] (which was 15:09 where I
 live) Peter Meyns wrote:

 Hi Peter,

 ...snip

 Well, yes, but install from which file? I installed from 3.1.33.msi,
 but as you stated, there is no such option.

 If I remember well you have to do a clean/new install.

 So after backing up, you have to delete all the entries in the registry.

 Then when you start the bat.exe, the program asks about OTFE.

I just did and it works as expected. I did the install with RC4.

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Re: On-the-fly-encryption

2005-05-07 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi MAU,

on Sat, 7 May 2005 15:57:11 +0200GMT, you wrote:

MM If You install it for the first time, select On-The-Fly encryption in
MM first dialog, which will appear.
 
 Well, yes, but install from which file? I installed from 3.1.33.msi,
 but as you stated, there is no such option.

M I have found this in case it helps:

Yes, indeed, it does.

M |   *DO NOT* run the new
M |   installation prior to overwriting the executable with the new beta.

This was the part I had forgotten.

Thank you and all who replied :)

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Re[2]: On-the-fly-encryption

2005-05-07 Thread Cees

Het was op zaterdag 7 mei 2005 om 15:59 uur dat jij iets schreef over 
'On-the-fly-encryption' :

Hallo Henk,
  
HMdB So after backing up, you have to delete all the entries in the registry.
HMdB Then when you start the bat.exe, the program asks about OTFE.

 and there's no other way to (re)activate that option??

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Re: On-the-fly-encryption

2005-05-07 Thread Henk M. de Bruijn
On Sat, 7 May 2005, at 16:31:05 [GMT +0200] (which was 16:31 where I
live) Cees wrote:

...snip

Hi Cees,
  
HMdB So after backing up, you have to delete all the entries in the
HMdB registry. Then when you start the bat.exe, the program asks
HMdB about OTFE.

  and there's no other way to (re)activate that option??

Not that I am aware of but it is not a big thing. First I made a
full/complete backup with The Bat!

After that I renamed my The Bat! directory.

Then I deleted all the entries in the registry.

Made a new The Bat! directory and copied the two files from the
rar-file into this directory. After clicking on the thebat.exe, will
not only install the program but also gives you the possibility to
choose for OTFE.

After restoring the backup you can put your prefered
files/subdirectories from the renamed directory back (pcwimages,
rogues etc.)

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On-the-fly-encryption

2005-05-06 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi all,

which install file do I need for On-the-fly encryption? I have OTFE
implemented here on my PC with v3.0.2.10 (which I also don't find on
Ritlabs' site, although it is running very smoothly...?) I'd like to
implement it on my laptop too, but I forgot, how I did it here on the
PC...

3.1.33.msi doesn't seem to offer it... hmm

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Questions about the the bat! on the fly encryption functionality

2005-02-20 Thread Claude Renaud
Hi,

Some questions about it :
With what kind of token does this otfe work ?
  How to use it exactly ?
What are requirements to use it ?


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Re: Change password with On The Fly Encryption

2005-01-05 Thread Tony Boom
Hello hggdh,

  A reminder of what hggdh on TBBETA typed on:
  04 January 2005 at 23:08:53 GMT +0100

h If I am correct, then what you propose could not work.

 Your not correct as I've just done the very thing I suggested and had no
 trouble at all.

 I transferred my OTFE installation from WinXP to my Linux box after first
 creating a backup. When I first ran it it asked if I wanted OTFE and I
 said no.

 So I converted an OTFE install into a non OTFE install restoring from a
 backup created with the OTFE install... If you follow.

 My suggestion will work as it worked perfectly for me.


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Change password with On The Fly Encryption

2005-01-04 Thread Julien RANC
Hello testers,

  I was wondering how I can change the password I use to access my
  mails with On The Fly Encryption turned on using a password (no
  eToken).

  Anyone knows how to do that ?

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Re: Change password with On The Fly Encryption

2005-01-04 Thread Zygmunt Wereszczynski
On Tuesday, January 4, 2005, at 16:29:41 [UTC+0100] (Tuesday, January 4,
2005 16:29 my local time) Julien RANC wrote:

   I was wondering how I can change the password I use to access my
   mails with On The Fly Encryption turned on using a password (no
   eToken).

This choice is irrevocable (once you select password then it is forever).

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Re: Change password with On The Fly Encryption

2005-01-04 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Zygmunt,

  A reminder of what Zygmunt Wereszczynski on TBBETA typed on:
  04 January 2005 at 19:44:33 GMT +0100

ZW This choice is irrevocable (once you select password then it is forever).

 Create a backup.
 Delete RIT registry entries.
 Run The Bat.
 Choose OTFE with new password.
 Restore from backup.

 Voila.

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Re: Change password with On The Fly Encryption

2005-01-04 Thread Zygmunt Wereszczynski
On Tuesday, January 4, 2005, at 19:07:03 [UTC+] (Tuesday, January 4,
2005 20:07 my local time) Tony Boom wrote:

ZW This choice is irrevocable (once you select password then it is forever).

  Create a backup.
  Delete RIT registry entries.
snip

Yes, I know this. However, I think there isn't normal procedure for
password changing because of assumed encrypting algorithm.

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Re[2]: Change password with On The Fly Encryption

2005-01-04 Thread Julien RANC
Hello Zygmunt,

Recently, I saw:

ZW On Tuesday, January 4, 2005, at 19:07:03 [UTC+] (Tuesday, January 4,
ZW 2005 20:07 my local time) Tony Boom wrote:

ZW This choice is irrevocable (once you select password then it is forever).

  Create a backup.
  Delete RIT registry entries.
ZW snip

ZW Yes, I know this. However, I think there isn't normal procedure for
ZW password changing because of assumed encrypting algorithm.

Thanks for your answers. I already thought of this solution, but it is
a bit complicated for something that should be a basic feature.


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Re: Change password with On The Fly Encryption

2005-01-04 Thread Dimitry Andric
On 2005-01-04 at 20:59:52 Julien RANC wrote:

 Thanks for your answers. I already thought of this solution, but it is
 a bit complicated for something that should be a basic feature.

Indeed it is.  When you change a password in a situation like this,
the question is also: is the entire message base re-encrypted with (a
hash of) this new password?


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Re: Change password with On The Fly Encryption

2005-01-04 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Julien,

  A reminder of what Julien RANC on TBBETA typed on:
  04 January 2005 at 21:00:14 GMT +0100

JR Thanks for your answers. I already thought of this solution, but it is
JR a bit complicated for something that should be a basic feature.

 It is but it was the only way I could think of for you to try.


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Re: Change password with On The Fly Encryption

2005-01-04 Thread hggdh

Hello Tony,

Tuesday, January 4, 2005, 13:07:03, you wrote:

TB  Create a backup.
TB  Delete RIT registry entries.
TB  Run The Bat.
TB  Choose OTFE with new password.
TB  Restore from backup.

TB  Voila.

Huh, I am not sure I understand -- maybe I messed something on the
OTFE. I understood the *base* was encrypted, and OTFE would write
encrypted mails to the base, and un-encrypt when reading.

If I am correct, then what you propose could not work.

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Re: Change password with On The Fly Encryption

2005-01-04 Thread Peter Palmreuther
Hello Dimitry,

On Tuesday, January 4, 2005 at 9:09:38 PM Dimitry [DA] wrote:

 Thanks for your answers. I already thought of this solution, but it is
 a bit complicated for something that should be a basic feature.

DA Indeed it is.  When you change a password in a situation like this,
DA the question is also: is the entire message base re-encrypted with (a
DA hash of) this new password?

This wouldn't be a problem if the password were only there to encrypt
a (randomly generated when OTFE was activated) key used to encrypt the
message base. Of course this key should be rather long than short to
avoid simple brute force attacks, but this way only this key has to
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Re: Change password with On The Fly Encryption

2005-01-04 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello hggdh,

On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 16:12:57 -0600 GMT (05/01/2005, 05:12 +0700 GMT),
hggdh wrote:

h Huh, I am not sure I understand -- maybe I messed something on the
h OTFE. I understood the *base* was encrypted, and OTFE would write
h encrypted mails to the base, and un-encrypt when reading.

h If I am correct, then what you propose could not work.

I agree with you here, it looks like the encryption doesn't make much
sense if anybody who just deletes the reg key and creates a new
password can then read all mails.

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Re: On The Fly Encryption

2004-11-29 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello AC,

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 16:39:27 -0500 GMT (29/11/2004, 04:39 +0700 GMT),
AC Martin wrote:

 What happened? Could you retrieve your data?

AM Never gained access to that install again. It was no problem though
AM since I was running an unencrypted installation in parallel.

I'm glad to hear that (no, I'm not sarcastic). If it were possible to
retrieve the data after the iKey is lost, there wouldn't be a point in
the iKey.

I hear that if you encrypt your databases with the new TB beta and
then back it up with the internal tools, you can still restore it to
an unencryptec version. This means that backup are not safe. Is that
true?

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Re: On The Fly Encryption

2004-11-28 Thread AC Martin
Hi Thomas Fernandez,
 On 27/11/2004 7:33 AM, you wrote:
AM I haven't used an iKey since mine went on the blink.
What happened? Could you retrieve your data?
Never gained access to that install again. It was no problem though 
since I was running an unencrypted installation in parallel.

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Re: On The Fly Encryption

2004-11-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Allie,

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:22:07 -0600 (CST) GMT (12/11/2004, 02:22 +0700 GMT),
Allie Martin wrote:

AM I haven't used an iKey since mine went on the blink.

What happened? Could you retrieve your data?

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On-The-Fly Encryption category on the bugtracking

2004-11-23 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Tbbeta,

  Thank you for filling the On-The-Fly Encryption category on the bugtracking 
server!

  I'm now mostly working out of office and unable to follow the TBBETA 
conversations!

  The On-The-Fly Encryption category is very convenient!


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On-The-Fly encryption category

2004-11-22 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Tbbeta,

  I've just created the On-The-Fly Encryption category at the bugtracker. 
Could you please list there the bugs with OTFE which we didn't resolve yet?!


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Re[2]: On The Fly Encryption

2004-11-15 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Mark,

Friday, November 12, 2004, 22:17:45, you wrote:

And what happens with a Network setup that shares one messagebase? I suppose
your instructions apply to both (or more) setups?
Networking mode or shared message bases are not applicable to the OTFE.

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Re[2]: On The Fly Encryption

2004-11-14 Thread NetVicious
domingo, 14 nov 2004 at 04:23, it seems you wrote:

 It should then work just fine with the latest version of TB Pro. On the
 opening screen, you will have a choice of using a password or token... just
 choose the Token, but you will have to first install the newest driver and
 Token Manager software. Thomas Woelk located the download instructions:


Thanks I don't have any password for protect TB!

I have the 3.4.3 version of the Driver, I will update it thanks.

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Re: On The Fly Encryption

2004-11-13 Thread Henk de Bruijn
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 18:28:32 +GMT (11-11-2004, 19:28 +0100, where
I live), Tony Bloom wrote:

...snip

TB  1. Use The Bats inbuilt backup to create a complete backup of all your
TB  accounts, filters etc.

TB  2. Delete all RIT registry entries...
TB  HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!

TB  3. Run The Bat as normal and it should start from fresh asking you if
TB  you want to use OTF. Careful you don't miss it, it's a tiny check box
TB  at the top of a lot of writing.

TB  4. Follow on screen prompts.

TB  5. Choose restore from backup and navigate to where you stored the
TB  backup in step 1.

TB  6. Don't forget your password :)

Is it possible to change the password?

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Re: On The Fly Encryption

2004-11-13 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Henk!

On Saturday, November 13, 2004 at 10:02:51 AM you wrote:

 Is it possible to change the password?

Seems not. At least I didn't find a way and no one could tell me how
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Re[2]: On The Fly Encryption

2004-11-13 Thread Dick H
Hello Dierk,

On Saturday, November 13, 2004 at 10:39:36 GMT +0100 (which was
10:39:36 where I live), Dierk Haasis wrote and made these valuable
points on the subject of On The Fly Encryption:

 Hello Henk!

 On Saturday, November 13, 2004 at 10:02:51 AM you wrote:

 Is it possible to change the password?

 Seems not. At least I didn't find a way and no one could tell me how
 to do it, yet.

Probably by doing the same way as you did when you want to secure your files: 
backup, delete registry entry, run TB! and just put in a new password...or am I 
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Re: On The Fly Encryption

2004-11-13 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Dick!

On Saturday, November 13, 2004 at 12:44:18 PM you wrote:

 Probably by doing the same way as you did when you want to secure
 your files: backup, delete registry entry, run TB! and just put in a
 new password...or am I wrong?

Wrong. I tried that a few times over the past few days because I
wanted to try/use encryption. Since my old settings did not come back
after a restore I had to delete the reg tree again, re-create the old
one - and didn't have encryption.

When trying out encryption again, I went the same route you just
proposed again. The passphrase I entered when first doing it stuck. I
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Re: On The Fly Encryption

2004-11-13 Thread Nick Andriash
On Saturday, November 13, 2004, at 8:20:01 PM, NetVicious wrote:

 Never mind Allie. I followed your and Tony's instructions, finally found my
 original Email with the iKey Token Manager and Driver Downloads URL... and
 now have everything working just fine.

 What you made for use the iKey with the TB! ?

 I  have  my  iKey  activated and it was running correctly with the old
 SecureBat v1.x

It should then work just fine with the latest version of TB Pro. On the
opening screen, you will have a choice of using a password or token... just
choose the Token, but you will have to first install the newest driver and
Token Manager software. Thomas Woelk located the download instructions:

Ritlabs SecureBat! Token Manager  Activation Utility for iKey1000
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/securebat/ikey1000/TokenMgrSetup.exe

Rainbow iKey Driver
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Re: On The Fly Encryption

2004-11-12 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Allie,

Thursday, November 11, 2004, 7:12:33 PM, you wrote:

AM - Backup TB! using the TB! backup.

--8--

AM Good Luck! :)

Thanks for these instructions. I don't think I'm gonna try this out, though.

I find this a very awkward way of enabling this OTFE (I'm not referring to
your instructions, but to the way RitLabs wants us to enable this).

Do they intend to keep it this way, or is this only a temporary solution?

And what happens with a Network setup that shares one messagebase? I suppose
your instructions apply to both (or more) setups?

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Re: On The Fly Encryption

2004-11-12 Thread Allie Martin
Mark Partous wrote:
 Thanks for these instructions. I don't think I'm gonna try this out,
 though.

 I find this a very awkward way of enabling this OTFE (I'm not
 referring to your instructions, but to the way RitLabs wants us to
 enable this).

 Do they intend to keep it this way, or is this only a temporary
 solution?
Good question. I don't know. I hope this isn't the case. There needs to
be a routine for easy conversion, at least, from plain to encrypted.
 And what happens with a Network setup that shares one messagebase? I
 suppose your instructions apply to both (or more) setups?
Another good question. I do think though that for now, the encryption is
for single installations only, in that the encrypted bases are
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On The Fly Encryption

2004-11-11 Thread Nick Andriash
Would someone mind explaining the procedure for enabling 'On The Fly
Encryption' with this latest TB Pro Beta 3.0.2.7?

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Re: On The Fly Encryption

2004-11-11 Thread Allie Martin
Hi  Nick,
You wrote:

 Would someone mind explaining the procedure for enabling 'On The Fly
 Encryption' with this latest TB Pro Beta 3.0.2.7?

- Backup TB! using the TB! backup.

- Backup TB! by exporting the registry key to file and Backing up the
  installation directory and mail directories. This is the failsafe in
  case the TB! backup fails you.

- Unistall TB! completely.

- Reinstall TB! using one of the MSI installers and then overwrite the
  TB! executable with the new beta, i.e., v3.0.2.7. *DO NOT* run the new
  installation prior to overwriting the executable with the new beta.

- When the new beta runs, it will ask if you wish to use on the fly
  encryption. Choose that. You can then go on to restore from backup
  rather than creating fresh accounts.


If you wish to keep your current installation going and try this on the
fly encryption, you can create a parallel installation that uses its own
registry branch.

- Copy your installation directory to another folder.

- Overwrite the TB! executable in that new folder with the current beta
  executable

- Create a shortcut to the new executable and then go in the properties
  of the shortcut. To the executable path, add the reg: parameter so
  that it's like this.
  C:/Program Files/new folder/thebat.exe /reg:Beta
  This will lead to the building of a new registry branch on execution.

- Run TB! using that shortcut and you'll be prompted for using on the
  fly encryption etc.

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Re: On The Fly Encryption

2004-11-11 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Nick,

  A reminder of what Nick Andriash typed on:
  11 November 2004 at 19:22:38 GMT +0100

NA Would someone mind explaining the procedure for enabling 'On The Fly
NA Encryption' with this latest TB Pro Beta 3.0.2.7?

 1. Use The Bats inbuilt backup to create a complete backup of all your
 accounts, filters etc.

 2. Delete all RIT registry entries...
 HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!

 3. Run The Bat as normal and it should start from fresh asking you if
 you want to use OTF. Careful you don't miss it, it's a tiny check box
 at the top of a lot of writing.

 4. Follow on screen prompts.

 5. Choose restore from backup and navigate to where you stored the
 backup in step 1.

 6. Don't forget your password :)


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Re: On The Fly Encryption

2004-11-11 Thread Nick Andriash
Allie Martin wrote:

- Run TB! using that shortcut and you'll be prompted for using on the
  fly encryption etc.

Good Luck! :)
  

So far, so good Allie, but I want to use my iKey Token... only I do not
have the URL's to download the iKey Token Manager and Driver. Do you
still have those URL's  instructions handy?


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Re: On The Fly Encryption

2004-11-11 Thread Nick Andriash
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 So far, so good Allie, but I want to use my iKey Token... only I do not
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 still have those URL's  instructions handy?

Never mind Allie. I followed your and Tony's instructions, finally found my
original Email with the iKey Token Manager and Driver Downloads URL... and
now have everything working just fine.

Thanks Tony and Allie for all your help.



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Re: On The Fly Encryption

2004-11-11 Thread Allie Martin
Hi  Nick,

You wrote:

 So far, so good Allie, but I want to use my iKey Token... only I do
 not have the URL's to download the iKey Token Manager and Driver. Do
 you still have those URL's  instructions handy?

I haven't used an iKey since mine went on the blink.

I found being able to just use a strong passphrase to be a godsend with
less chances of failure. :)

I've since lost the various links for the iKey Token Manager. Sorry.


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Re: On The Fly Encryption

2004-11-11 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Nick,

  A reminder of what Nick Andriash typed on:
  11 November 2004 at 20:18:06 GMT +0100

NA Thanks Tony and Allie for all your help.

 Your more than welcome. Had I followed this advice from Allie yesterday
 it would have been easier for me.

AM - Create a shortcut to the new executable and then go in the properties
AM   of the shortcut. To the executable path, add the reg: parameter so
AM   that it's like this.
AM   C:/Program Files/new folder/thebat.exe /reg:Beta
AM   This will lead to the building of a new registry branch on execution.

Instead of that I went the long way round and created two reg entries by
installing, uninstalling twice then and editing the respective reg file
to get it go where I wanted... Didn't think just adding a switch would
create it automatically for me.

While we're on the subject, are these ikey thingies special or could I
used an SD card or memory stick?


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Re: On The Fly Encryption

2004-11-11 Thread Thomas Woelk
* Nick Andriash [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 So far, so good Allie, but I want to use my iKey Token... only I do not
 have the URL's to download the iKey Token Manager and Driver.

» Ritlabs SecureBat! Token Manager  Activation Utility for iKey1000
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/securebat/ikey1000/TokenMgrSetup.exe

» Rainbow iKey Driver
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On-the-Fly Encryption

2004-11-11 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello TBBETA Members!

  I am not a happy ...

  Sorry, wrong movie.

  Nevertheless, I am not happy with the current state of the
  encryption. I tried the delete RIT reg tree-approach and do now
  have more than just a bit of trouble.

  First I did a Backup of my accounts and I exported the RIT reg tree.
  Then I started TB, got the wizard [don't laugh, Mary], foolishly
  created a test account and so on. None of my settings were there.
  I restored from my backup and had all my accounts back (hopefully
  with everything I need), still TB looked very different to what I
  want it to look like. Most obvious was the language, I prefer the
  English interface to the German.

  Well, I thought, you do have the exported reg tree. I double clicked
  it, got all my settings back - but lost the encryption. Not good.

  Tried that a bit back and forth, had no nerve to find out which of
  the many keys, dwords and whatnots I do have to export and re-import
  to get the best of both worlds: my customisation and the encryption.

  Whatever I now use - I guess the old MB - for the time being the
  transition is sub-optimal (or should I call it NASA?).
  



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Re: On-the-Fly Encryption

2004-11-11 Thread Allie Martin
On Thursday, November 11, 2004 at 6:17:34 PM [GMT -0500], Dierk Haasis
wrote:

 I am not a happy ...

I'm not happy either.

I've managed to get an encrypted installation going. I restored from a
backup just fine. However, TB! seems to be having the dickens of a time
getting the local cache going for these IMAP mailboxes.

I'm getting a lot of lockups and pauses. The TBBETA folder has all
messages duplicated. The black coloured messages are Ok, but the blue
coloured (that's the colour in the message list) messages show no body
text when selected.

I'm also getting AV's. :(

Additionally, the first time I ran v3.0.2.7, the preview pane filled the
entire window. So all I saw was a grey window with 'Message not loaded'
in the middle of it.

I changed to another split view mode to get out of that situation.

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Re[2]: On The Fly Encryption

2004-11-11 Thread NetVicious
jueves, 11 nov 2004 at 20:17, it seems you wrote:

 Never mind Allie. I followed your and Tony's instructions, finally found my
 original Email with the iKey Token Manager and Driver Downloads URL... and
 now have everything working just fine.

What you made for use the iKey with the TB! ?

I  have  my  iKey  activated and it was running correctly with the old
SecureBat v1.x

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[3.0.2.5] AV when trying to view account properties when using on the fly encryption

2004-11-06 Thread Julien RANC
Hello testers,

  When I try to view the account properties of any account, I get an
  Access violation if on the fly encryption is activated:

  AV at address 008A1E52: read of address 

  Can anyone confirm this ?

  It also happens when creating new accounts with encryption
  activated, it I select to view account parameters at the end of the
  creation.

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