Re: Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8
Also, in general: info, more info, we're all info greedy... your OS / SP's / TB version / Home|Pro / other plugins / what disk / which mouse / what's in your bank account (wink) and such. Uhm, missing dash-dash-space-return ... yeh yeh... when I'm using TB! I don't think about this.. but reading these messages on gmane isn't quite the same .. (in answer it was .. any TB! version with Achims Bayesfilter 2.0.0 caused the problem. dashdashspacenewline Graham -- Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8
N viernes, 26 nov 2004 at 09:02, it seems you wrote: When shutting down TheBat I get the (in)famous dialog that says that One or more connections is still active. Shutdown anyway ?. No matter which button I choose (Yes, No, Cancel) TheBat refuses to shutdown. The only thing that works is to kill it from the Taskmanager. N Not confirmed here. N Only POP3 accounts and BayesIt! Not confirmed. Exchange and pop3 accounts. Bayesit 0.75 Best regards, Goncalo Farias -- 'C' What? Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8
Hello Graham, Friday, November 26, 2004, 6:24:52 PM, you wrote: The CC hang doesn't occur every time I check for messages, just *some of the time, which might make it hard to track. But I would certainly be willing to see if there is a difference when BF is disabled. G I'm fairly sure the problem is with Bayes Filter v2.0.0. I experienced the G problem here (on 1 account) and TB! refused to import messages correctly after G downloading them off the server. I tried downgrading TB! to earlier versions, I G tried using message dispatcher.. all failed to fix the problem. Eventually I G downgraded to Bayes Filter 1.5.4 - and everything started to work again. Seems G conclusive to me... Achim - you have a had to find bug! ;-) G Regards G Graham Confirmed here,deleting bayes 2.0 solved the problem. Mail would download but not display and TheBat! would not close. -- Best regards, RMorris TheBat!3.0.2.8 Professional Edition www.ritlabs.com AntiSpam- BayesIt! 0.7.5 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8
Hello Mary, Friday, November 26, 2004, 12:14:00 PM, you wrote: MB Hello Pat! MB On Friday, November 26, 2004, 12:03 PM, you wrote: MB P I am also using BayesFilter, but was doing so on my old computer MB P with no CC hang or download problems. Could it be a BF/SP2 problem? MB Pat are you (and James as well) using Bayes Filter as opposed to MB BayesIt? I was previously using BayesIt, thought I'd give Bayes Filter a spin since TB seems to consume a lot of virtual memory for me (sometimes over 70MB over time before I restart it) I wanted to see if it was a leak or normal usage in a plugin or TB itself. As soon as I switched to Bayes Filter my shutdown/connection window problems started. As a side note, deleting either Bayes plugin from TB's anti-spam interface causes my TB to crash. It would appear like TB continues to reference menu items or DLL hooks or something after they were removed and causes errors. After removing Bayes Filter the problem went immediately away. So while it may not be Bayes Filter 2.0.0 all by itself, it is definitely a major contributing factor to this problem. I also had the problem where I had mail that downloaded (I saw it in the log as a downloaded) but it was not in my mail folder. I ran folder maintenance to check integrity/repair and it didn't find any problems and my messages still didn't appear. I then removed Bayes Filter as a plugin (which crashed TB) and then re-launched, and then my mail showed up in my folders. I'm guessing they were held up in a spam-processing queue or something and were stuck? I'm guessing. As another side note, I am running XP SP2 and TB 3.0.2.5. I've also seen a couple references to complex folder structures which I would probably qualify for. I have mail folders 3 to 4 levels deep. I hope the information helps isolate the problem... :) -- Best regards, James Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8
Hi Greg, On Friday, November 26, 2004, 11:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't help but suspect some kind of SP2 conflict... GS This maybe a good guess, however I run TB with BayesIt on WinXP Pro GS SP2 and have no problem. I think earlier posts identified BayesFilter, as opposed to BayesIt, as the program that might be the problem. I am running BayesFilter on XP with SP2; and I should stress that there was no problem when the configuration was BF on my XP SP1. GS IIRC you transferred all files over from old GS computer which had a funky folder structure. True Paul, for some reason the folder was called TheBat2.0 no matter what version I installed... but the program ran flawlessly. Mary what I may end up doing, if I don't jump to another mail program, is installing my old hard drive into my new machine as a back up,but will keep the OS and maybe run TB! from there, if it isn't too impractical to do so. GS Before going to a new mail program what I would do is remove TB from GS the new computer and do a clean install on it with the latest release GS file from Ritlabs. I dread the thought of a clean install almost as much as the jump to a new email program. In any case, I did try a clean install here on the new computer; had to re-set up all the templates and settings... or would have if the hang problem didn't rear its ugly head before I could get all the settings in. GS... GS In order: GS 1) Copy 'Mail' folder and all subdirectories someplace for save GS keeping... GS... Thanks for the step-by-step! It is just the kind of instruction I need if I do decide to re-install. GS 6) Use registry key to register TB and see if TB works now. If it GS doesn't you can shoot me. :-) My aim is bad, so don't worry. :-) Thanks again. -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8
Hi Alexander, On Friday, November 26, 2004, 11:10 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The CC hang doesn't occur every time I check for messages, just *some of the time, which might make it hard to track. But I would certainly be willing to see if there is a difference when BF is disabled. ASK You could try a different (external) spam filter in case you desparately ASK need it (while disabling/removing the Bayes* plugin in TB), in case you get ASK a lot of spam; K9 from http://www.keir.net does a good job here. Yes I do get a lot of spam; before the BayesFilter plugin I was using SpamPal, which did an excellent job, but I started getting error messages and ended up going to BF. I will certainly have a look at K9... thanks! -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8
On Saturday, November 27, 2004 at 11:12:19 GMT -0600 (which was 18:12:19 where I live), P.Johnson wrote and made these valuable points on the subject of Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8: Hi Alexander, ASK You could try a different (external) spam filter in case you desparately ASK need it (while disabling/removing the Bayes* plugin in TB), in case you get ASK a lot of spam; K9 from http://www.keir.net does a good job here. Yes I do get a lot of spam; before the BayesFilter plugin I was using SpamPal, which did an excellent job, but I started getting error messages and ended up going to BF. I will certainly have a look at K9... thanks! I had problems with both BayesIT and Bayes Filter and about 2 weeks ago I decided to go the rough way and install a challenge/response based antispam filter..since then: no problems at all, no spam mail either and no problems with TB anymore! -- Best regards, Dick ___ The last voice you hear just before the world explodes will be the voice of an expert, saying: This is technically impossible!--Sir Peter Ustinov Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 SpamBayes 1.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[4]: Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8
On Saturday, November 27, 2004 at 18:18:16 GMT +0100 (which was 18:18:16 where I live), Dick H wrote and made these valuable points on the subject of Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8: Yes I do get a lot of spam; before the BayesFilter plugin I was using SpamPal, which did an excellent job, but I started getting error messages and ended up going to BF. I will certainly have a look at K9... thanks! I had problems with both BayesIT and Bayes Filter and about 2 weeks ago I decided to go the rough way and install a challenge/response based antispam filter..since then: no problems at all, no spam mail either and no problems with TB anymore! Sorry, just saw that Spambayes 1.0 was still showing in my tagline..it's gone now. This was one of the filters I also tested. -- Best regards, Dick ___ ... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer, my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental. Any resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic. The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold them is left as an exercise for the reader. The question of the existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god coefficient. (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism is beyond the scope of this article.) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8
Hi all, I installed 3.0.2.8 this week and had a problem retrieving mail with one of my accounts. When shutting down TheBat I get the (in)famous dialog that says that One or more connections is still active. Shutdown anyway ?. No matter which button I choose (Yes, No, Cancel) TheBat refuses to shutdown. The only thing that works is to kill it from the Taskmanager. I haven't seen this in a long time. Looks like an old bug that has returned. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.2.8 on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8
Hello Robert When shutting down TheBat I get the (in)famous dialog that says that One or more connections is still active. Shutdown anyway ?. No matter which button I choose (Yes, No, Cancel) TheBat refuses to shutdown. The only thing that works is to kill it from the Taskmanager. I haven't seen this in a long time. Looks like an old bug that has returned. I've had the same experience even with POP3. Problem occurs if a connection is lost unexpectedly (i.e. Wifi connection drops offline in my case) TB! error handling just can't cope with the unexpected loss. Graham -- regards, Graham Using The Bat! 3.0.2.8 assisted by under Windows XP 5.1 (Build 2600, Service Pack 1) -- Notice: This e-mail message, together with any attachments, contains information of Merck Co., Inc. (One Merck Drive, Whitehouse Station, New Jersey, USA 08889), and/or its affiliates (which may be known outside the United States as Merck Frosst, Merck Sharp Dohme or MSD and in Japan, as Banyu) that may be confidential, proprietary copyrighted and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity named on this message. If you are not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete it from your system. -- Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8
Hello Robert I haven't seen this in a long time. Looks like an old bug that has returned. Worse than I thought.. I've just had the problem again and there were NO connection problems at all. I agree, the old bug is back -- regards, Graham Using The Bat! 3.0.2.8 assisted by under Windows XP 5.1 (Build 2600, Service Pack 1) -- Notice: This e-mail message, together with any attachments, contains information of Merck Co., Inc. (One Merck Drive, Whitehouse Station, New Jersey, USA 08889), and/or its affiliates (which may be known outside the United States as Merck Frosst, Merck Sharp Dohme or MSD and in Japan, as Banyu) that may be confidential, proprietary copyrighted and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity named on this message. If you are not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete it from your system. -- Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8
On 2004-11-26 at 09:02:14 Robert van der Hulst wrote: When shutting down TheBat I get the (in)famous dialog that says that One or more connections is still active. Shutdown anyway ?. No matter which button I choose (Yes, No, Cancel) TheBat refuses to shutdown. The only thing that works is to kill it from the Taskmanager. I haven't seen this in a long time. Looks like an old bug that has returned. This is a The Bat bug which goes back to about version 1.0, and has been occurring regularly for ever since, up the latest and supposedly greatest beta's. It will probably require one of the grandiose complete rewrites that Ritlabs has promised multiple times, to be fixed. Or it might be some fundamental Delphi problem. Anyway, I also never understood why the question is made so complicated. I always have to read the question three or four times before I know which button to press, which then never works anyway, of course. What's so hard about a Do you want to exit (YES/NO) box? And where is the much needed option Don't ask any stupid questions, just quit when I tell you to quit??? pgpzz3Ref2Cqu.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8
Hello Robert, RvdH When shutting down TheBat I get the (in)famous dialog that says that One or RvdH more connections is still active. Shutdown anyway ?. No matter which RvdH button I choose (Yes, No, Cancel) TheBat refuses to shutdown. The only RvdH thing that works is to kill it from the Taskmanager. I haven't experienced this bug until I switched from bundled BayesIt to Antispam Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.0. Even though no tasks are listed in the connection centre I can't close TB. I have my connection center dialog set to automatically show and hide when retrieving mail. Since I started using BF I've also noticed the connection center window never hides anymore, even though nothing is listed in it. I would imagine these two problems are related and have something to do with either the Bayes Filter plugin or TB's API (or the combination). Is everyone experiencing this problem using BF, or any plugin for that matter? Does the problem go away if all plugins are disabled/deleted? Might be worth checking into... -- Best regards, James Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8
Hello James, Friday, November 26, 2004, 10:01:03, you wrote: JO Is everyone experiencing this problem using BF, or any plugin for JO that matter? Does the problem go away if all plugins are JO disabled/deleted? JO Might be worth checking into... Happened with me with BayesIt!; after moving to Bayes Filter, I did not get it anymore, but... still waiting. -- ..hggdh.. Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 and Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.0 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 pgpDGYjmlMQK8.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8
Hello James, On Friday, November 26, 2004, 11:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RvdH When shutting down TheBat I get the (in)famous dialog that says that One or RvdH more connections is still active. Shutdown anyway ?. No matter which RvdH button I choose (Yes, No, Cancel) TheBat refuses to shutdown. The only RvdH thing that works is to kill it from the Taskmanager. JO I haven't experienced this bug until I switched from bundled BayesIt to JO Antispam Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.0. Even though no tasks are listed JO in the connection centre I can't close TB. That's exactly what was happening to me with v3.0.1.33 when I transferred TB! to a new computer; I hoped the bug had been resolved in this beta. But today the Connection Centre is hanging again, without downloading all messages. I am also using BayesFilter, but was doing so on my old computer with no CC hang or download problems. Could it be a BF/SP2 problem? JO I have my connection center dialog set to automatically show and JO hide when retrieving mail. Since I started using BF I've also noticed JO the connection center window never hides anymore, even though JO nothing is listed in it. And it is still open-- you probably can't shut down TB! without resorting to the Task Manager. Along with the hang, TB! will also leave messages on the server for days (even though I specified otherwise in account properties), but will download mulitiples of other messages. Very frustrating. ... JO Is everyone experiencing this problem using BF, or any plugin for that JO matter? Does the problem go away if all plugins are disabled/deleted? JO Might be worth checking into... The CC hang doesn't occur every time I check for messages, just *some of the time, which might make it hard to track. But I would certainly be willing to see if there is a difference when BF is disabled. -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8
Hello Pat! On Friday, November 26, 2004, 12:03 PM, you wrote: I am also using BayesFilter, but was doing so on my old computer with no CC hang or download problems. Could it be a BF/SP2 problem? Pat are you (and James as well) using Bayes Filter as opposed to BayesIt? If you are, this is the first I have ever heard of Bayes Filter (Achim Winkler's, see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) giving problems to anyone. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8
On Friday, 26 November 2004 at 18:03 (UK time), P.Johnson said: I am also using BayesFilter, but was doing so on my old computer with no CC hang or download problems. Could it be a BF/SP2 problem? I also had the same problem but with Win98. BayesFilter now removed. :( -- Paul White Using The Bat! 3.0.2.8 (Home Edition) on Windows 98 (4.10.1998) Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8
Hi Mary, On Friday, November 26, 2004, 12:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am also using BayesFilter, but was doing so on my old computer with no CC hang or download problems. Could it be a BF/SP2 problem? MB Pat are you (and James as well) using Bayes Filter as opposed to MB BayesIt? Yes, I am using Bayes Filter (never even tried BayesIt as so many others seemed to have problems with it). Bayes Filter seems to work just fine so far, and worked well on my old system. I'm among the many fans of Achim Winkler who think Ritlabs should enable a plugin for BF. MB If you are, this is the first I have ever heard of Bayes Filter (Achim MB Winkler's, see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) giving problems MB to anyone. I can't help but suspect some kind of SP2 conflict... Mary what I may end up doing, if I don't jump to another mail program, is installing my old hard drive into my new machine as a back up, but will keep the OS and maybe run TB! from there, if it isn't too impractical to do so. -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8
Hello Pat! On Friday, November 26, 2004, 12:33 PM, you wrote: Yes, I am using Bayes Filter (never even tried BayesIt as so many others seemed to have problems with it). Bayes Filter seems to work just fine so far, and worked well on my old system. I'm among the many fans of Achim Winkler who think Ritlabs should enable a plugin for BF. MB If you are, this is the first I have ever heard of Bayes Filter (Achim MB Winkler's, see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) giving problems MB to anyone. I can't help but suspect some kind of SP2 conflict... Yes, since the beginning of your difficulties coincided with starting to run TB! on XP SP2 as contrasted with no problems running TB! v. 3.0.1.33 on XP SP1. Mary what I may end up doing, if I don't jump to another mail program, is installing my old hard drive into my new machine as a back up, but will keep the OS and maybe run TB! from there, if it isn't too impractical to do so. For the sake of this last paragraph, I'm CCing my reply to tbot. Some pretty good hardware/software techies over there, and the question approached in your last paragraph is SOT here, I think. Was fine for you to include it. Just think more help about putting the extra hard drive in may be available on tbot. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8
Hello P.Johnson everyone else, on 26-Nov-2004 at 19:03 you (P.Johnson) wrote: The CC hang doesn't occur every time I check for messages, just *some of the time, which might make it hard to track. But I would certainly be willing to see if there is a difference when BF is disabled. You could try a different (external) spam filter in case you desparately need it (while disabling/removing the Bayes* plugin in TB), in case you get a lot of spam; K9 from http://www.keir.net does a good job here. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using TB! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 Every great scientific truth goes through three stages. First, people say it conflicts with the Bible. Next, they say it has been discovered before. Lastly, they say they always believed it. -- Louis Agassiz Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8
Hi Mary, On Friday, November 26, 2004, 12:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I am using Bayes Filter (never even tried BayesIt as so many others seemed to have problems with it). Bayes Filter seems to work just fine so far, and worked well on my old system. I'm among the many fans of Achim Winkler who think Ritlabs should enable a plugin for BF. MB If you are, this is the first I have ever heard of Bayes Filter (Achim MB Winkler's, see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) giving problems MB to anyone. I can't help but suspect some kind of SP2 conflict... MB Yes, since the beginning of your difficulties coincided with starting MB to run TB! on XP SP2 as contrasted with no problems running TB! v. MB 3.0.1.33 on XP SP1. Rumor has it SP2 is more like a new OS, rather than just a big old patch, so it may be difficult to fix. Mary what I may end up doing, if I don't jump to another mail program, is installing my old hard drive into my new machine as a back up, but will keep the OS and maybe run TB! from there, if it isn't too impractical to do so. MB For the sake of this last paragraph, I'm CCing my reply to tbot. Some MB pretty good hardware/software techies over there, and the question MB approached in your last paragraph is SOT here, I think. lol I debated whether to include that paragraph or just send you a PM; but thought it wouldn't hurt to let the developers know (assuming they might possibly have read it??) that it's serious enough that a customer may jump ship. MB Was fine for you to include it. Just think more help about putting the MB extra hard drive in may be available on tbot. I agree 100%! Thanks, Mary. -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8
Sorry everyone; didn't mean to post this on TBETA. Apologies for remarks re: developers! :-) On Friday, November 26, 2004, 1:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PJ Hi Mary, PJ On Friday, November 26, 2004, 12:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I am using Bayes Filter (never even tried BayesIt as so many others seemed to have problems with it). Bayes Filter seems to work just fine so far, and worked well on my old system. I'm among the many fans of Achim Winkler who think Ritlabs should enable a plugin for BF. MB If you are, this is the first I have ever heard of Bayes Filter (Achim MB Winkler's, see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) giving problems MB to anyone. I can't help but suspect some kind of SP2 conflict... MB Yes, since the beginning of your difficulties coincided with starting MB to run TB! on XP SP2 as contrasted with no problems running TB! v. MB 3.0.1.33 on XP SP1. PJ Rumor has it SP2 is more like a new OS, rather than just a big old PJ patch, so it may be difficult to fix. Mary what I may end up doing, if I don't jump to another mail program, is installing my old hard drive into my new machine as a back up, but will keep the OS and maybe run TB! from there, if it isn't too impractical to do so. MB For the sake of this last paragraph, I'm CCing my reply to tbot. Some MB pretty good hardware/software techies over there, and the question MB approached in your last paragraph is SOT here, I think. PJ lol I debated whether to include that paragraph or just send you a PM; PJ but thought it wouldn't hurt to let the developers know (assuming they PJ might possibly have read it??) that it's serious enough that a PJ customer may jump ship. MB Was fine for you to include it. Just think more help about putting the MB extra hard drive in may be available on tbot. PJ I agree 100%! PJ Thanks, Mary. -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8
Hello P.Johnson, Friday, November 26, 2004, 12:33:21 PM, P.Johnson wrote: I can't help but suspect some kind of SP2 conflict... This maybe a good guess, however I run TB with BayesIt on WinXP Pro SP2 and have no problem. IIRC you transferred all files over from old computer which had a funky folder structure. So I suspect that you may have some of the old file structure which could contribute to the problem. When I purchased v3 I did a clean install, and if I recall some things worked differently from the beta. Mary what I may end up doing, if I don't jump to another mail program, is installing my old hard drive into my new machine as a back up,but will keep the OS and maybe run TB! from there, if it isn't too impractical to do so. Before going to a new mail program what I would do is remove TB from the new computer and do a clean install on it with the latest release file from Ritlabs. When I say remove I would remove everything in the registry and all program files EXCEPT those under the 'Mail' directory. This way you could preserve your mail database with the new install. Make sure you have your v3 registry key email saved to a text file, so you can get to it without using TB. You may want to do a complete folder maintenance followed up by a complete backup within TB using its backup before going through this procedure. Other thing you can do is use WinRAR batch file to do backup of 'Mail' directory or do it manually. In order: 1) Copy 'Mail' folder and all subdirectories someplace for save keeping. 2) In Admin account open 'Control Panel', then 'Add or Remove Programs'. If you do NOT have TB in list of programs, then you must have installed from WinRar (or other compressed file including registry), and see note below. If TB is in list of programs, then chose 'TB' | click 'change' | Next | select remove | click next button | select 'keep the working directory and all data files' | click remove button. This should remove TB from the registry and leave the 'Mail' directory in tact. Note: To remove TB when not in list of files in 'Add or Remove Programs' click Start | Run | type 'regedit' | at top of key structure do a find (Ctrl+F) and type in 'RIT' and make sure all options are chosen with 'Match whole string only' and hit enter. You should be at the 'RIT' key so right mouse click and select 'delete'. For safe keeping hit the F3 key which should continue search to make sure no other 'RIT' exists which should not. You now have TB out of the registry, so close the registry editor. 3) download the latest TB install file and have your v3 registry key ready. You may want to reboot here before going through the clean install. 4) When you open TB for the 1st time you will get the 'Directories setup' so you want to choose 'User-defined directory' and put the directory where you want it to be. If it isn't the same as previous installation just copy over the directory with all files and subdirectories to the location desired. If the Mail base is going to accessed by different users of the PC, it will be important that all users have rights to this directory if it is on a NTFS partition. If you leave the default, then you are chosing a configuratin which only the one user will have access too on a NTFS partition. 5) I would choose 'I want to create a new account' here and put the exact name of the old accounts under the 'Mail' directory. This way TB will see all the old configuration files so you won't have to do anything other than type in all the old account names and click next through the rest of the configuration. You might even want to use Windows Exlorer to copy the account names from the 'Address' field in Explorer if you have more than 1. Simply choose Account | New and go through the same procedure. Note: I didn't chose from a TB backup because my memory tells me that the registry is included so by using complete backup it technically is not a comlpletely clean install. 6) Use registry key to register TB and see if TB works now. If it doesn't you can shoot me. :-) -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8
viernes, 26 nov 2004 at 09:02, it seems you wrote:
When shutting down TheBat I get the (in)famous dialog that says that One or
more connections is still active. Shutdown anyway ?. No matter which
button I choose (Yes, No, Cancel) TheBat refuses to shutdown. The only
thing that works is to kill it from the Taskmanager.
Not confirmed here.
Only POP3 accounts and BayesIt!
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Re: Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8
The CC hang doesn't occur every time I check for messages, just *some of the time, which might make it hard to track. But I would certainly be willing to see if there is a difference when BF is disabled. I'm fairly sure the problem is with Bayes Filter v2.0.0. I experienced the problem here (on 1 account) and TB! refused to import messages correctly after downloading them off the server. I tried downgrading TB! to earlier versions, I tried using message dispatcher.. all failed to fix the problem. Eventually I downgraded to Bayes Filter 1.5.4 - and everything started to work again. Seems conclusive to me... Achim - you have a had to find bug! ;-) Regards Graham Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8
Hello James, Friday, November 26, 2004, 6:01:03 PM, among other things, you wrote: JO Is everyone experiencing this problem using BF, or any plugin for that JO matter? Does the problem go away if all plugins are disabled/deleted? No. I am running both BF 2.0.0 and BayesIT and have had no problem at all! It may be OS related and in this regard it is useful in this forum to always include the OS and other equipment details in the signature. -- Best regards, Roger Flying with The Bat!, version 3.0.2.8, and antispam BayesIt! 0.7.4 and Bayes Filter 2.0.0 on Windows ME, version 3000, Build 90 Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
