DEAD HORSE (was Re: 1.44)
Hi MaXxX, On 28 May 2000 at 22:30:07 GMT +0200 (which was 21:30 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "1.44": M Hello phil and all you Batters out there. p Yeah the add-on program should have been written by "microsoft" but p they call all these exploits that keep coming out "features" while p denying there is any problem. M (LARGE snip-snip-snip) p Anyway, I've had enough of this. Maybe what everyone wants is no p privacy, no security, no anonymity a new world order with a dictator, p and sweeping laws against everything. Continue down the path then... M 'xcuse me... M ... M Excuse me!... M ... M EXCUSE MEEE!!!... M ... M HEY! YOU! I'M TALKIN' TO YOU, YOU HEAR ME!?? M Good. M . M . M Sorry :) M Anyway, what did all that M$ talk have to do with Bat? IOW, are you for M keeping all the settings in the registry, or not?? Please move this thread to TBOT - if you want to discuss it further. It's gone *way* off topic and is begin to bog down the list. So - it's a DEAD HORSE here now. -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY *--- | Using The Bat! 1.44 S/N 14F4B4B2 | under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 *--- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 1.44
Morning Stefan Tanurkov, The problem is that a single "stupid" user on a single machine (i.e. without administrator) should not have easy access to this feature. Okay, but what about the average "knows what he is doing" user (like me) I'm educated enough to know what attachments I can open safely and what is potentially dangerous. Still, I wouldn't regularly search the registry for new entrys that might turn off some annoying confirmation boxes. I do believe these settings should at least be documented, otherwise it is not more than security through obscurity and nothing but annoying for anyone savvy. -- .. Jast ... mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : using TB 1.44 : with AMD K6-2, 64MB RAM :. on Windows 98 4.10 A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 1.44
Hello tracer, On Monday, May 29, 2000 you wrote: t You would if you are an administrator and have more then one system... And you'd like to click thousands of checkboxes? Hmm, interesting, I usually do it once, export the registry and import it other systems... t imagine the fun if someone writes a virus to just add *.msg to t protection for the BAT. t First special antibat virus created... Oh, gee, big deal. Imagine a virus that removes whole registry branch "RIT". And what? User runs TB and sees no accounts. That is something! -- Christopher J. Trybowski === -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- uin:4350719 -- http://www.trybik.i.krakow.pl --- pgp-keys: 0xB92EEE69 0x9382700B ===( get-pgp-keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=send_key )=== Using The Bat! 1.44 [reg] under Windows 98 4.10 build 1998. -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 1.44
Hello tracer, On Monday, May 29, 2000 you wrote: t But I donot agree having to go into the registry to change it. t There IS an administrators menu somewhere anyway, why not add this t to it? I don't know guys what's the problem. Is there any? You edit such properties once and then you can copy them across computers... -- Christopher J. Trybowski === -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- uin:4350719 -- http://www.trybik.i.krakow.pl --- pgp-keys: 0xB92EEE69 0x9382700B ===( get-pgp-keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=send_key )=== Using The Bat! 1.44 [reg] under Windows 98 4.10 build 1998. -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 1.44
Hello Thomas, On Monday, May 29, 2000 you wrote: TS Hallo Stefan, TS Am 29.05.2000 um 07:08 Uhr, schriebst Du: ST Hello tracer, t But I donot agree having to go into the registry to change it. t There IS an administrators menu somewhere anyway, why not add this to t it? ST The problem is that a single "stupid" user on a single machine (i.e. without ST administrator) should not have easy access to this feature. The only ST thing I can think of is a secret key combination. But using .REG ST files seems to be more practical especially within large networks - ST you do not want to type those values in on each machine even using the ST nicest interface, do you? ;-) TS I have no Problem with editing the registry, but I know a lot of TS users that are using windows quite a lot and haven't even seen the TS registry on their system. Which means that they green. And such inexperienced users shouldn't edit these properties. Besides it's time to learn something at last. ;) Actually putting switches in configuration files, and not supplying a setup program (or dialog box) is what is common in Linux and other Unix systems... -- Christopher J. Trybowski === -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- uin:4350719 -- http://www.trybik.i.krakow.pl --- pgp-keys: 0xB92EEE69 0x9382700B ===( get-pgp-keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=send_key )=== Using The Bat! 1.44 [reg] under Windows 98 4.10 build 1998. -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 1.44
Hello tracer, On Mon, 29 May 2000 08:09:58 +0700GMT (29/05/2000, 09:09 +0800GMT), tracer wrote: t But I donot agree having to go into the registry to change it. t There IS an administrators menu somewhere anyway, why not add this to t it? I second that. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.42f under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 with a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 1.44 // sorry Mario
Hi Nick On Fri, 26 May 2000 11:33:47 -0500GMT (which was 26/05/2000, 18:33 +0100GMT for me), you wrote: ND One other thing I noticed, and perhaps this is getting picky, but ND upon doing a refilter there is no way to NOT include filters marked ND manual (unless of course you make them inactive first). Since there ND is a box for manual filters only, perhaps a box to exclude manual ND filters would be handy. actually: asking for a 'refilter' is manually filtering :-) untill this version, i don't think there was any other way to invoke the 'manual only' filters any other way :-) But you're right: now, in the age of 'filters-with-hotkeys', such a switch could come in handy... maybe a 'filter only when triggered by hotkey' kinda thingie? ** regarding the mail to mario: i have no idea at all what has happened... sorry :-) -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roel [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Speelplein Aboe http://www.aboe.zzn.com * 'C++' should have been called 'D' Using The Bat! 1.44 on Windows 98 4.10 build A with a Intel p200-MMX @ 64 MB 21Gb Hd -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 1.44
Morning Stefan Tanurkov, [*] Warning on opening attachments. This is rather annoying. I know I can use the shift key to avoid it, but how can you totally disable it? The dialogue box says "contact your network administrator or support service to disable it forever" - now that's helpful :-/ -- .. Jast ... mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : using TB 1.44 : with AMD K6-2, 64MB RAM :. on Windows 98 4.10 A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 1.44
Hello TBBETA, Friday, May 26, 2000, Stefan wrote: Here go the changes: [*] All types of attachments can be deleted. I can't confirm at all. viz. www.mikus.cz/deleteatt.gif Another problem is with file "bdy.txt". TB display message without any text and with no link to it in bookmark or in attachments pane. Only in header is link to file "bdy.txt". If user find this file, he can see the text. But the same problem is with re-send function, TB generate only header. The message was sent from Outlook. -- Bye, Marek Mikus \---X/ |Marek Mikus| Podpora produktu The Bat! | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |---|| | ISP IPEX s.r.o. |Aktualni informace a| | 05/452 451 11 | on-line napoveda | |www.ipex.cz| www.thebat.ipex.cz | |www.gin.cz || /---X\ -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 1.44
On Fri, 26 May 2000 18:14:13 +0300, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: [+] Quotation prefix length limit setting in message editor properties. Appreciated. [+] Advanced page in Sorting office with additional conditions for a filter. I see that message age may be used as a criteria for filtering now. This plus the hot-key assignment for rules, makes for a neat archiving feature. [+] %OneLine/%SingleLine macro. When I place this in a reply template, the quoted text is generated as a single line of text. [+] %QuoteStyle macro I'm not sure what this does. I have a feeling it may allow the ability to determine the prefixing style. I can't get it to work because I'm just guessing! [*] All types of attachments can be deleted. Good. I can now delete attached messages in MIME digests. [-] Bug with not changing cookie in Quick Templates Confirmed fixed. :-) -- Allie Martin[ TB! v1.44 | Win2k Pro ] PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=GetAlliePGPKey - Tag: "Religion without heart is enslavement. " -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org