DEAD HORSE (was Re: 1.44)

2000-05-29 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

Hi MaXxX,

On 28 May 2000 at 22:30:07 GMT +0200 (which was 21:30 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject
of "1.44":

M Hello phil and all you Batters out there.

p Yeah the add-on program should have been written by "microsoft" but
p they call all these exploits that keep coming out "features" while
p denying there is any problem.
M  (LARGE snip-snip-snip)
p Anyway, I've had enough of this.   Maybe what everyone wants is no
p privacy, no security, no anonymity a new world order with a dictator,
p and sweeping laws against everything.   Continue down the path then...

M 'xcuse me...
M ...
M Excuse me!...
M ...
M EXCUSE MEEE!!!...
M ...
M HEY! YOU! I'M TALKIN' TO YOU, YOU HEAR ME!??
M Good.
M .
M .
M Sorry :)
M Anyway, what did all that M$ talk have to do with Bat? IOW, are you for
M keeping all the settings in the registry, or not??

Please  move  this thread to TBOT - if you want to discuss it further.
It's gone *way* off topic and is begin to bog down the list. So - it's
a DEAD HORSE here now.

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Re: 1.44

2000-05-29 Thread Jast

Morning Stefan Tanurkov,

 The problem is that a single "stupid" user on a single machine (i.e.
 without administrator) should not have easy access to this feature.

 Okay, but what about the average "knows what he is doing" user (like me)
 I'm educated enough to know what attachments I can open safely and what is
 potentially dangerous. Still, I wouldn't regularly search the registry for
 new entrys that might turn off some annoying confirmation boxes. I do
 believe these settings should at least be documented, otherwise it is not
 more than security through obscurity and nothing but annoying for anyone
 savvy.
 


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Re: 1.44

2000-05-29 Thread Christopher J. Trybowski

Hello tracer,
On Monday, May 29, 2000 you wrote:

t You would if you are an administrator and have more then one system...

And  you'd  like to click thousands of checkboxes? Hmm, interesting, I
usually do it once, export the registry and import it other systems...

t imagine the fun if someone writes a virus to just add *.msg to
t protection for the BAT.
t First special antibat virus created...

Oh,  gee, big deal. Imagine a virus that removes whole registry branch
"RIT". And what? User runs TB and sees no accounts. That is something!

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Re: 1.44

2000-05-29 Thread Christopher J. Trybowski

Hello tracer,
On Monday, May 29, 2000 you wrote:

t But  I  donot  agree  having  to go into the registry to change it.
t There  IS an administrators menu somewhere anyway, why not add this
t to it?

I  don't  know  guys  what's  the problem. Is there any? You edit such
properties once and then you can copy them across computers...

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Re: 1.44

2000-05-29 Thread Christopher J. Trybowski

Hello Thomas,
On Monday, May 29, 2000 you wrote:

TS Hallo Stefan,

TS Am 29.05.2000 um 07:08 Uhr, schriebst Du:

ST Hello tracer,

t But I donot agree having to go into the registry to change it.
t There IS an administrators menu somewhere anyway, why not add this to
t it?

ST The problem is that a single "stupid" user on a single machine (i.e. without
ST administrator) should not have easy access to this feature. The only
ST thing I can think of is a secret key combination. But using .REG
ST files seems to be more practical especially within large networks -
ST you do not want to type those values in on each machine even using the
ST nicest interface, do you? ;-)

TS I have no Problem with editing the registry, but I know a lot of
TS users that are using windows quite a lot and haven't even seen the
TS registry on their system.

Which  means  that  they green. And such inexperienced users shouldn't
edit   these properties. Besides it's time to learn something at last.
;)

Actually  putting switches in configuration files, and not supplying a
setup  program  (or  dialog  box) is what is common in Linux and other
Unix systems...

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Re: 1.44

2000-05-28 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hello tracer,

On Mon, 29 May 2000 08:09:58 +0700GMT (29/05/2000, 09:09 +0800GMT),
tracer wrote:

t But I donot agree having to go into the registry to change it.
t There IS an administrators menu somewhere anyway, why not add this to
t it?

I second that.

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Re: 1.44 // sorry Mario

2000-05-27 Thread Roel

Hi Nick

On Fri, 26 May 2000 11:33:47 -0500GMT
   (which was 26/05/2000, 18:33 +0100GMT for me),

you wrote:

ND  One other thing I noticed, and perhaps this is getting picky, but
ND upon doing a refilter there is no way to NOT include filters marked
ND manual (unless of course you make them inactive first).  Since there
ND is a box for manual filters only, perhaps a box to exclude manual
ND filters would be handy.

actually: asking for a 'refilter' is manually filtering :-)
untill this version, i don't think there was any other way to invoke
the 'manual only' filters any other way :-)

But you're right: now, in the age of 'filters-with-hotkeys', such a
switch could come in handy...
maybe a 'filter only when triggered by hotkey' kinda thingie?

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happened... sorry :-)

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Re: 1.44

2000-05-27 Thread Jast

Morning Stefan Tanurkov,

 [*] Warning on opening attachments.

 This is rather annoying. I know I can use the shift key to avoid it, but
 how can you totally disable it? The dialogue box says "contact your
 network administrator or support service to disable it forever" - now
 that's helpful :-/

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Re: 1.44

2000-05-26 Thread Marek Mikus

Hello TBBETA,
Friday, May 26, 2000, Stefan wrote:

   Here go the changes:

 [*] All types of attachments can be deleted.

I can't confirm at all. viz. www.mikus.cz/deleteatt.gif

Another problem is with file "bdy.txt".

TB display message without any text and with no link to it in bookmark
or in attachments pane. Only in header is link to file "bdy.txt". If
user find this file, he can see the text. But the same problem is with
re-send function, TB generate only header. The message was sent from
Outlook.  

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Re: 1.44

2000-05-26 Thread Allie Martin

On Fri, 26 May 2000 18:14:13 +0300, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

 [+] Quotation prefix length limit setting in message editor
 properties.

Appreciated.

 [+] Advanced page in Sorting office with additional conditions for a
 filter.

I see that message age may be used as a criteria for filtering
now. This plus the hot-key assignment for rules, makes for a neat
archiving feature.

 [+] %OneLine/%SingleLine macro.

When I place this in a reply template, the quoted text is
generated as a single line of text.

 [+] %QuoteStyle macro

I'm not sure what this does. I have a feeling it may allow the
ability to determine the prefixing style. I can't get it to work because
I'm just guessing!

 [*] All types of attachments can be deleted.

Good. I can now delete attached messages in MIME digests.

 [-] Bug with not changing cookie in Quick Templates
  
Confirmed fixed. :-)

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