Re: IMAP: Got worse with RC2/RC4

2005-05-09 Thread Jonathan Angliss
Hi Raymund Tump,
On Friday, May 06, 2005, you wrote:

 Hello TBBETA,

 I didn't think that possible, but now IMAP is worse than ever.

 Normally I start The Bat! find there are many new mails on the TB Beta
 list, click on the folder list for the TBBeta folder and if I'm lucky
 I get a list of all messages in that folder.

 Then I find a subject which sounds interesting, and I click on that
 one. Till RC2 this works up to a certain degree: After a (long) while
 the message text was shown in the message window. Now that doesn't
 happen most of the times.

 Here are some entries from the log:

[..]
06.05.2005, 16:12:06: IMAP - 3: The folder Tbbeta selected. 584
recent, 0 unread out of 18246 total messages
 !06.05.2005, 16:12:09: IMAP - 2: Error downloading message.
 Server reports: SELECT Cannot access mailbox - cannot open mailbox
 'fol.tbudl': unable to lock index - Resource temporarily unavailable
06.05.2005, 16:12:15: IMAP - 2: The folder Tbbeta selected. 584
recent, 714 unread out of 18246 total messages
06.05.2005, 16:12:16: IMAP - 1: The folder Tbbeta selected. 584
recent, 0 unread out of 18246 total messages
[..]
 !06.05.2005, 16:16:02: IMAP - Msg: Cannot select the mailbox
 Tbbeta. Server reports: SELECT Cannot access mailbox - cannot open
 mailbox 'fol.tbbeta': unable to lock index - Resource temporarily
 unavailable

 I have set 5 connections to the server and 1 is reserved for message
 retrieval (which I think is not working) and if I test it using the
 Test button in the IMAP fine tuning dialog pane, it says No
 problems.

  I'm not sure how the test function works, but I'm assuming it
  probably just opens the number of connections you specified without
  doing much real work, like attempting to select the same folder with
  two connections. The problem in this situation is your IMAP server
  doesn't support multiple connections accessing the same mail box.
  This isn't too uncommon, especially not on imap servers that use a
  single file to store messages (ie mbox), as it cannot allow two
  sources modify the same single file at once.

  Looking at the above log messages, the initial connections are
  established, and the threads run off to do their STATUS check to
  find out the message count etc. At which point you're selecting the
  tbbeta folder as it is attempting to do a count. There is another
  time you can get this kind of message... When you are receiving a
  message into that folder at the same time you are attempting to
  select it. The SMTP service will cause a mailbox lock at the same
  time you're trying to acquire a read lock.

  You could try reducing the chances of collisions on the connections
  by reducing the count to maybe 2, and setting one dedicated to
  loading messages, and see if that helps.

  I unfortunately cannot confirm your views on the instability of IMAP
  in RC4, as I have been using it just fine for a bit, but then again,
  I don't have an IMAP server that requires locking, at least not on
  the whole mailbox, but single files might be a possibility (Maildir
  format).

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Re: IMAP: Got worse with RC2/RC4

2005-05-07 Thread Michael




Hi,

I absolutely agree. IMAP is a disaster with RC4 in my environment. I get frequently similar error messages with my two IMAP accounts.


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Re: IMAP: Got worse with RC2/RC4

2005-05-06 Thread 9Val
Hi Raymund,  

RT I have set 5 connections to the server and 1 is reserved for message
RT retrieval (which I think is not working) and if I test it using the
RT Test button in the IMAP fine tuning dialog pane, it says No
RT problems.

 It  doesn't  guarantee anything so, try to play with Fine-Tune option
 'Simulate  folder  lock'.  Notice:  it  needs  program  restart to be
 applied.

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Re: IMAP: Got worse with RC2/RC4

2005-05-06 Thread Raymund Tump
Hello 9Val,

  It  doesn't  guarantee anything so, try to play with Fine-Tune option
  'Simulate  folder  lock'.  Notice:  it  needs  program  restart to be
  applied.

That did not help.

And I found a new problem:

I deleted the folder cache. That caused TB! to get a new list from the
server that went rather fast (my TBBeta folder has 18268 entries in it
right now), but then it starts to download the headers and that will
take ages as far as I can see. For 5 headers TB needs more than 30
sec. each.

And I had a problem which I thought was already fixed: I click on a
mail and another mail content was shown. The mail shown was the mail I
look at directly before. This happened in the extra folder view
window, as the normal 3 pane layout refused to show the mail anyway.

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Raymund



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Re: IMAP: Got worse with RC2/RC4

2005-05-06 Thread Kevin Amazon
Hi Raymund Tump

-
On Fri, 6 May 2005, at 17:33:02 [GMT +0200] (which was 8:33 AM where I
live) you wrote:


 And I found a new problem:

 I deleted the folder cache. That caused TB! to get a new list from the
 server that went rather fast (my TBBeta folder has 18268 entries in it
 right now), but then it starts to download the headers and that will
 take ages as far as I can see. For 5 headers TB needs more than 30
 sec. each.

 And I had a problem which I thought was already fixed: I click on a
 mail and another mail content was shown. The mail shown was the mail I
 look at directly before. This happened in the extra folder view
 window, as the normal 3 pane layout refused to show the mail anyway.

 Pretty much the same problems here as has been mentioned in other
threads. For all intents and purposes, IMAP doesn't work in this
release (for me, anyway).

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