Re: Threading issue
On Thursday, February 28, 2008, 5:57:57 PM, Paul Van Noord wrote: Your answer is in the word attachment. It is not a part of the message and bears no identity of the message. They are as different as apples and cucumbers. it sure is. just look at the size of the message. it just gets added differently. when it is gone the message is changed. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.14.9 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
On Thursday, February 28, 2008, 5:57:57 PM, Paul Van Noord wrote: Your answer is in the word attachment. It is not a part of the message and bears no identity of the message. They are as different as apples and cucumbers. it sure is. just look at the size of the message. it just gets added differently. when it is gone the message is changed. You have a point!! -- Rick Republicans - OUT! v4.0.14.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
On Thursday, February 28, 2008, 6:20:59 PM, MAU wrote: Seems to me that 'supplementary' is the key. If you are trying to maintain integrity of what was sent/received, then the attachment has to be considered part of that package. If we are worrying about evidentiary matters, then we have to worry about what was in the attachment as much or more than what was in the headers. You can doctor what was sent/received and where are we left. How you can restrict the sanctity of all this to one portion and still pretend that there is some moral imperative for the whole is beyond me. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.14.9 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
On Friday, February 29, 2008, 11:31:29 AM, Paul Van Noord wrote: It can also be stored apart from the message. For the sanctity of what was dispatched, this too should be eliminated. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.14.8 on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Dwight, How you can restrict the sanctity of all this to one portion and still pretend that there is some moral imperative for the whole is beyond me. In my mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], a reply to Rick Grunwald about editing Subject or nor, I wrote: ,- [ ] | It is and has been a long and endless discussion and it is not the first | time I say I will not support it. But I will not go wild either if the | option is ever implemented. :) `- :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
On Tuesday, February 26, 2008, 8:01:32 PM, MAU wrote: This, to me, has the advantage that full integrity of received message is maintained, including all the headers. What is with this obsession with the full integrity of received message? Maybe that is the least important aspect of the messages someone wants to edit. If integrity is so important, why are we allowed to separate attachments from the rest of the message, or to delete an attachment? -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.14.7 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
On Tuesday, February 26, 2008, 8:01:32 PM, MAU wrote: This, to me, has the advantage that full integrity of received message is maintained, including all the headers. What is with this obsession with the full integrity of received message? Maybe that is the least important aspect of the messages someone wants to edit. If integrity is so important, why are we allowed to separate attachments from the rest of the message, or to delete an attachment? When such passionate arguments are in process you aren't supposed to make so much sense :)) -- Rick Are we in the Post-Bush era yet? v4.0.14.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Dwight, This, to me, has the advantage that full integrity of received message is maintained, including all the headers. What is with this obsession with the full integrity of received message? Maybe that is the least important aspect of the messages someone wants to edit. Yes, maybe. If integrity is so important, why are we allowed to separate attachments from the rest of the message, or to delete an attachment? http://www.thefreedictionary.com/attachment ,- [ ] | a. A supplementary part; an accessory: /bought a vacuum cleaner with | several attachments/. See Synonyms at _appendage_. | | b. A supplementary document that is attached to a primary document: | /stapled two attachments to the memorandum/. `- Seems to me that 'supplementary' is the key. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Rick, I have a message that incorrectly threaded with another from last August. I cannot break the threading Are you threading just by Reference, by Subject or by Reference plus Subject? Why do you think is it incorrectly Threaded? What is the Message-ID of the message it is threaded to? What is the 'In-Reply-To:' header, if it has any, of the the message wrongly threaded? What is the 'References:' header, if it has any, of the the message wrongly threaded? Could it be that you threaded it manually? Can someone post the directions once again to make sure I am doing it correctly? I [shift] drag it to the left and get the message OK to remove the threading to which I answer OK but nothing happens. You don't seem to be doing anything wrong but, the fact that threading is not removed may depend on your answer to above questions. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Rick, I have a message that incorrectly threaded with another from last August. I cannot break the threading Are you threading just by Reference, by Subject or by Reference plus Subject? Why do you think is it incorrectly Threaded? What is the Message-ID of the message it is threaded to? What is the 'In-Reply-To:' header, if it has any, of the the message wrongly threaded? What is the 'References:' header, if it has any, of the the message wrongly threaded? Could it be that you threaded it manually? Can someone post the directions once again to make sure I am doing it correctly? I [shift] drag it to the left and get the message OK to remove the threading to which I answer OK but nothing happens. You don't seem to be doing anything wrong but, the fact that threading is not removed may depend on your answer to above questions. I created a new email yesterday. I received a reply today. It attached to a message with the same subject but otherwise totally unrelated that was sent back in August. That folder is threaded by Reference + Subject One has References the older one does not The message IDs are totally different The only thing in common is the subject I have had things thread incorrectly before (very rare!) but I can't UNthread these -- Rick The American Republican Party: Supporting Big Business - serfdom for the people v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Rick, That folder is threaded by Reference + Subject Change it to just by Reference. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
You don't seem to be doing anything wrong but, the fact that threading is not removed may depend on your answer to above questions. I just discovered that I CAN thread it to a different message. If I do that the one from August disappears back down the list. However if I remove the NEW threading, it is again threaded to the original from August The only way to break the threading is to thread it to something else. Odd ... -- Rick Make no mistake; The war in Iraq is a war to secure oil profits. Sadly it worked ... v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Rick, That folder is threaded by Reference + Subject Change it to just by Reference. Thanks - that fixed it but I remember when I first started using the Bat, an experienced user advised me to set it up reference + subject -- Rick Republican tax breaks for large corporations: Remember them the next time you see a CEO with hundreds of million$ in their golden parachute All that money came from somewhere. v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Rick, I just discovered that I CAN thread it to a different message. If I do that the one from August disappears back down the list. However if I remove the NEW threading, it is again threaded to the original from August Yes, that is the 'stupid' way threading by Subject works. Because it is NOT threading, it is and should be called 'Grouping' or something similar. The only way to break the threading is to thread it to something else. Odd ... Think of it, just for illustration purposes, as it was a virtual folder filtering on an specific subject. How can you prevent a message from appearing in such a 'folder' if it has the required subject? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Rick, I just discovered that I CAN thread it to a different message. If I do that the one from August disappears back down the list. However if I remove the NEW threading, it is again threaded to the original from August Yes, that is the 'stupid' way threading by Subject works. Because it is NOT threading, it is and should be called 'Grouping' or something similar. The only way to break the threading is to thread it to something else. Odd ... Think of it, just for illustration purposes, as it was a virtual folder filtering on an specific subject. How can you prevent a message from appearing in such a 'folder' if it has the required subject? Oh I understood when you gave the advice - that was a leftover from when I was new to the bat. BTW your last paragraph gave yet another EXCELLENT REASON to implement Subject editing in received emails :)) -- Rick Republicans - OUT! v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Rick, That folder is threaded by Reference + Subject Change it to just by Reference. Thanks - that fixed it but I remember when I first started using the Bat, an experienced user advised me to set it up reference + subject I am sure it wasn't me, I would have never suggested that and now you know why :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Rick, That folder is threaded by Reference + Subject Change it to just by Reference. Thanks - that fixed it but I remember when I first started using the Bat, an experienced user advised me to set it up reference + subject I am sure it wasn't me, I would have never suggested that and now you know why :) The thing is it wouldn't let me BREAK the threading unless I threaded it to something else - they the original with the same subject would disappear -- Rick The American Republican Party: Supporting Big Business - serfdom for the people v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Rick, BTW your last paragraph gave yet another EXCELLENT REASON to implement Subject editing in received emails :)) Yes, and why not be able to also edit the Created date and time? Haven't you ver received a message with a 'wrong date' and that doesn't show properly if you are sorting by Created date? And, while we are at it, why not be able to edit the 'Content-Type:' header to change the charset so it will match the one of our preferred Viewer Profile? Or even, and while we are still at it, to change the name of an attachment so it will not be confused with one we received yesterday with the same name. And... :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Rick, BTW your last paragraph gave yet another EXCELLENT REASON to implement Subject editing in received emails :)) Yes, and why not be able to also edit the Created date and time? Haven't you ver received a message with a 'wrong date' and that doesn't show properly if you are sorting by Created date? And, while we are at it, why not be able to edit the 'Content-Type:' header to change the charset so it will match the one of our preferred Viewer Profile? Or even, and while we are still at it, to change the name of an attachment so it will not be confused with one we received yesterday with the same name. And... :) All good points! However supporting editing the subject line is sufficient for this version https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6700 :)) -- Rick The American Republican Party: Supporting Big Business - serfdom for the people v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Rick, All good points! However supporting editing the subject line is sufficient for this version https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6700 :)) It is and has been a long and endless discussion and it is not the first time I say I will not support it. But I will not go wild either if the option is ever implemented. :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Guten Tag Rick Grunwald, am Dienstag, 26. Februar 2008 um 17:56 schrieben Sie: Hello Rick, I have a message that incorrectly threaded with another from last August. I cannot break the threading Are you threading just by Reference, by Subject or by Reference plus Subject? Why do you think is it incorrectly Threaded? What is the Message-ID of the message it is threaded to? What is the 'In-Reply-To:' header, if it has any, of the the message wrongly threaded? What is the 'References:' header, if it has any, of the the message wrongly threaded? Could it be that you threaded it manually? Can someone post the directions once again to make sure I am doing it correctly? I [shift] drag it to the left and get the message OK to remove the threading to which I answer OK but nothing happens. You don't seem to be doing anything wrong but, the fact that threading is not removed may depend on your answer to above questions. I created a new email yesterday. I received a reply today. It attached to a message with the same subject but otherwise totally unrelated that was sent back in August. That folder is threaded by Reference + Subject One has References the older one does not The message IDs are totally different The only thing in common is the subject I have had things thread incorrectly before (very rare!) but I can't UNthread these You should maybe be more exactly, because the Threading depends on the Reference of the Mail. Please post both Message-IDs (Example) [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the Headers of the wrong following Message (Example) In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Then everybody is able to see, if this Threading is ok. Otherwise, you should edit the following Mail. And: believe me, Users often use a old Message and start a new Thread by clicking reply on the old, if you then have threading, you are lost in space. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.14.7 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
2/26/2008 1:57 PM Hi MAU, On 2/26/2008 MAU wrote: BTW your last paragraph gave yet another EXCELLENT REASON to implement Subject editing in received emails :)) M Yes, and why not be able to also edit the Created date and time? M Haven't you ver received a message with a 'wrong date' and that M doesn't show properly if you are sorting by Created date? And, while we M are at it, why not be able to edit the 'Content-Type:' header to change M the charset so it will match the one of our preferred Viewer Profile? Or M even, and while we are still at it, to change the name of an attachment M so it will not be confused with one we received yesterday with the same M name. And... :) Well said! But I will not go wild either if the option is ever implemented. :) WELL SAID! -- Rick Bush - 7 years of shame v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Maggie, M why not be able to edit the 'Content-Type:' header to change M the charset so it will match the one of our preferred Viewer Profile? Yes! My eyes thank you! Such a good idea. I'll support if you wish. Sorry my dear, but I don't wish :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hi MAU, On Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 1:21:22 PM you wrote: M why not be able to edit the 'Content-Type:' header to change M the charset so it will match the one of our preferred Viewer Profile? Yes! My eyes thank you! Such a good idea. I'll support if you wish. SUPPORTED! -- Rick The American Republican Party: Supporting Big Business - serfdom for the people v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Guten Tag Rick Grunwald, am Dienstag, 26. Februar 2008 um 21:04 schrieben Sie: Hi MAU, On Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 1:21:22 PM you wrote: M why not be able to edit the 'Content-Type:' header to change M the charset so it will match the one of our preferred Viewer Profile? Yes! My eyes thank you! Such a good idea. I'll support if you wish. SUPPORTED! Absolutely supported! -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.14.7 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Guten Tag Rick Grunwald, am Dienstag, 26. Februar 2008 um 21:04 schrieben Sie: Hi MAU, On Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 1:21:22 PM you wrote: M why not be able to edit the 'Content-Type:' header to change M the charset so it will match the one of our preferred Viewer Profile? Yes! My eyes thank you! Such a good idea. I'll support if you wish. SUPPORTED! Absolutely supported! ... and I support your support! MAU - it was your idea - do you want to open the whish item? :)) -- Rick Dare we hope? Vote for hope in 08 v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Jens, M why not be able to edit the 'Content-Type:' header to change M the charset so it will match the one of our preferred Viewer Profile? Yes! My eyes thank you! Such a good idea. I'll support if you wish. SUPPORTED! Absolutely supported! Oh my goodness! You guys can't be serious! I leave you alone for a couple of hours and look what you have started! ;-) Isn't it much simpler, with no development required and with no fiddling needed with the headers of a message because your want to view it with your preferred profile which is defined for a different charset, to just use one profile (the default one, for example) that is NOT associated to any charset in particular? That way, all messages, no matter which charset is used, will be viewed with this profile. And then, if a language/charset is best viewed with a different font and profile, define one associated to that charset in particular. I really can't believe you are being serious. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
I really can't believe you are being serious. We were just following your lead! :'( -- Rick The Mideast Oil Crusade did more for militant Islam than Osama EVER could have. v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Rick, MAU - it was your idea - do you want to open the whish item? :)) Certainly NOT! See my reply to Jens :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Rick, I really can't believe you are being serious. We were just following your lead! :'( My 'lead', as you call it, and please don't anyone feel offended, was just to illustrate how 'ridiculous' I find the request to edit the Subject of received messages. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Rick, I really can't believe you are being serious. We were just following your lead! :'( My 'lead', as you call it, and please don't anyone feel offended, was just to illustrate how 'ridiculous' I find the request to edit the Subject of received messages. ... and you were having your leg pulled :)) -- Rick Republican tax breaks for large corporations: Remember them the next time you see a CEO with hundreds of million$ in their golden parachute All that money came from somewhere. v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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M just to illustrate how 'ridiculous' I find the request to edit the M Subject of received messages. Actually Poco mail allows that and I found it to occasionally be VERY handy -- Rick If all life is sacred ... How can Republicans be pro life AND for capital punishment? v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Maggie, On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:34:59 -0500 GMT (27/02/2008, 06:34 +0700 GMT), Maggie Meister wrote: SUPPORTED! Absolutely supported! M Oh my goodness! You guys can't be serious! I leave you alone for a M couple of hours and look what you have started! ;-) MM It's not our fault - there wasn't enough beer. You should try one of my beer. According to MAU, it is good for your eyes too, as it will prevent you from having to look at the wrong font. -- Cheers, Thomas. I've heard people are more violently opposed to fur than leather because it's safer to harass rich women than motorcycle gangs. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.14.7 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading issue
Hello Paul, I admit there are times I want to change the subject is a received message so I just redirect it to me with the changes. Takes little time and works well. Why don't you forward it to yourself as a MIME attachment? You don't even need to actually send it, just put it in Outbox and then move it to appropriate folder. This, to me, has the advantage that full integrity of received message is maintained, including all the headers. This has also the side advantage that you can use the body of the message to yourself for notes or comments about the received message and, again, maintaining full integrity of the received message. I have done this a few times instead of using the Memo field, which is not readily visible and that is kept separately in the Index file and not as part of the message itself. And if the received message is part of a thread (for example a reply to a previous one in a mailing list), and you'd like to maintain threading, do a Reply to the the same 'previous' message and attach it. Again, this will maintain full integrity of the originally received message. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
