Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to : M> I also move 'old messages' to a folder in my password protected M> Archive account. But I do this automatically by using the M> "Alternative deletion" in the folder Properties. I have many M> folders set up this way. I see what you mean. I was not aware of that alternative deletion mode. It's nice... maybe I'll give it a try. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Borg C++: Compiling is futile. Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to : >> Yes it does but it's not as simple as using the shortcut. I would have >> to open the folder tree prior to move the messages. M> Can I ask you something? It's just curiosity but, about how many M> messages on the average you move per minute? OK, let's make it per hour. M> And complete threads? As I said, just curious ;-) Several time otherwise I wouldn't notice it. I follow TBBeta threads on a folder where I receive everything received from the list and when that thread gets dead I move it to a folder related to the year the message arrived. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias There are three things that come next, uh four. Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to : M>>> With all of this, my opinion is that the behaviour in 3.99.29 M>>> (and previous?) when using Ctrl+V on the name of a group was the M>>> buggy one, and that it is working correctly now. It's just my M>>> opinion. >> I disagree! :) M> OK, I won't send you to jail for that :) Good! :) >> Ritlabs should work some way to have only ONE shortcut to move >> messages no matter if it was a single message, a subject group or a >> reference *thread*. M> Not easy. If you select a single message in a "proper thread", even M> if it is the first one, how can TB know if you want to move the M> whole thread or just the selected message? By asking with an M> options dialog? I don't know what's your definition of thread but lets assume that it a group of messages related by reference, subject, sender or any other in common characteristic. If you select the row that aggregates the thread it should interpret as a move thread. Anything else should be considered as a move message(s). M> But I am beginning to think you may be right in one way. In the M> case of "subject groups", if you select the "group name", then M> there is no doubt if what you want to do is move a single message M> (because the group title isn't a message) or the entire group. M> Similarly to what Windows does when in Explorer you select a file M> or a folder and use Ctrl+X->Ctrl+V. M> Anyway, and in case you don't know, dragging the 'group name' of a M> "subject group" to a different folder does still move the entire M> thread (group). Yes it does but it's not as simple as using the shortcut. I would have to open the folder tree prior to move the messages. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Don't you sometimes wish taht there was a solution to ever Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to : M> Now, if you are threading by Subject (like I am assuming you do), then M> you are darn right and Ctrl+V does move the entire group in 3.99.29 and M> it doesn't in 4.0.0.7. Yes, I'm threading by subject. You're completely right. M> But that is only if you are threading by subject and you select the M> 'name of the group'. If you select any actual message in the group, only that M> message is moved. M> When threading by Reference, like I do in 99.99% of my folders, then M> Ctrl+V does only move the first message of the thread (if that's the one M> selected), and this is so in 3.99.29 and 4.0.0.x. Ok, point taken. M> Now, no matter if threading by Subject or by Reference, if you select M> ANY message in a thread (or group) and you use Shift+Ctrl+V, the entire M> thread (or group) will be moved. And this was so in 3.99.29 and still is M> so in 4.0.0.7. Ok. M> With all of this, my opinion is that the behaviour in 3.99.29 (and M> previous?) when using Ctrl+V on the name of a group was the buggy one, M> and that it is working correctly now. It's just my opinion. I disagree! :) Ritlabs should work some way to have only ONE shortcut to move messages no matter if it was a single message, a subject *group* or a reference *thread*. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias "I invented a cordless extension cord." s.w. Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to : >> Even when I select a closed thread the shortcut is and always was >> CTRL+V and MOVES the ENTIRE thread to another folder. MM> no, Ctrl+V moves selected message or messages only, not messages in MM> thread! then I must have been using a bug all this time. See my attachments. >> This is what I expect from the new version. It makes no sense to have >> a different shortcut to do exactly the same thing. What comes next? A >> new shortcut for when you select a even number of messages? MM> there is entry "Thread" and functions for working with thread are there. Again, see the screenshots I sent. You see what the context menu show and I assure you that I ALWAYS have used CTRL+V to move both single messages and complete threads. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Don't get mad, get even. Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to : M>>> Yes, mine does show Ctrl+V too. But, AFAIK and as I use it, that is for M>>> selected message(s), not for threads. >> >> Go back to 3.99.29 and try with ctrl+v. M> I just did (see my signature below) and if I select the first message of M> a thread and hit Ctrl+V it just moves one message, the first one of the M> thread, which is the one I had selected. Maybe I wasn't clear enough. Another image to clarify. Even when I select a closed thread the shortcut is and always was CTRL+V and MOVES the ENTIRE thread to another folder. This is what I expect from the new version. It makes no sense to have a different shortcut to do exactly the same thing. What comes next? A new shortcut for when you select a even number of messages? -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Abort, Retry, Ignore, plan a Funeral Service?<> Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to : US> Hello Goncalo, US> On 2008-01-05 you wrote: >> Maybe you're right but see my screen shot. >> My context menu says CTRL+V. I'm expecting to use this shortcut in >> future version since I got used to it. US> Yes, but two lines above you can see the "thread" entry in the menu. US> When you expand it, you'll see that Shift+Ctrl+V is the shortcut to US> move threads (unless you have redefined it). Look at the screenshot US> Miguel has posted. I didn't -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias If it wasn't so cool out today, it would be warmer. Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
sábado, 5 ene 2008 at 10:58, it seems you wrote: > Isn't Shift+Ctrl+V the shortcut to move a thread? Hi! Here Shift+Ctrl+V shows the move message(s) to folder dialog correctly. I tested it and it runs perfectly. -- /\/ Using The Bat! 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) Professional / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 2) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: AntiSpamSniper 2.7.1.5 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Moderator of Spanish TBUDL Spanish Translation Coordinator of The Bat! Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to : M>>> I don't have any earlier versions available now but the attached is from M>>> my 3.99.29. >> Maybe you're right but see my screen shot. >> My context menu says CTRL+V. I'm expecting to use this shortcut in >> future version since I got used to it. RG> It's been V to move a thread since I first started using RG> the Bat around version 3.3x Well, that's not what's in the context menu and CTRL+V did exactly the same thing as shft+ctrl+v since threads appeared (probably that's why I didn't knew about that other shortcut). And I using TB since version 2.x. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias You think I care which way you face? O'Brien Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to : M> Hello Goncalo, >> Maybe you're right but see my screen shot. >> My context menu says CTRL+V. M> Yes, mine does show Ctrl+V too. But, AFAIK and as I use it, that is for M> selected message(s), not for threads. Go back to 3.99.29 and try with ctrl+v. It works. Now it doesn't. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias We humans have a streak of barbarism in us... Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to : M> Hello Goncalo, When in Threaded View Mode it's not possible to move an entire thread to another folder using CTRL+V. This happens for all alphas. >> M>>> Isn't Shift+Ctrl+V the shortcut to move a thread? >> >> Not in TB 3.99.29 and all previous... M> I don't have any earlier versions available now but the attached is from M> my 3.99.29. Maybe you're right but see my screen shot. My context menu says CTRL+V. I'm expecting to use this shortcut in future version since I got used to it. Another thing that would be nice is to allow TB to fallback to the actual interface. I really don't like the new interface that much. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Show Girl : she's more show than girl.<> Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to : M> Hello Goncalo, >> When in Threaded View Mode it's not possible to move an entire thread >> to another folder using CTRL+V. This happens for all alphas. M> Isn't Shift+Ctrl+V the shortcut to move a thread? Not in TB 3.99.29 and all previous... -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias My other vehicle is a Galaxy Class Starship. Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
