Re: Slow Mail Processing

2008-02-25 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag Kertész Vilmos,

am Montag, 25. Februar 2008 um 03:45 schrieben Sie:

 Mine is bigger :) TeamViewer does not need any unusual open port, so
 any  user  can  use  it.  That is the good point in it. It can go thru
 corporate firewalls.

I tried this bevore, but it's disadvantage and the
advantage of ShowMyPC is: No installation, even possible to
start it from a webpage.

And (i don't remember in details) the netviewer didn't work
for me in some cases, or caused problems in any way.

Ah, i found it:

- they harried me with advertisements a lot
- they even sent out advertises with size over 1 Mb
- the application didn't start in 50% of my tries
  or
  - it was not able to get a connection
...this could be reproduced on 4 different systems
- for a application with a fee of near 1000 Euro this is
  very poor

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TeamViewer, only the truth (Re[2]: Slow Mail Processing)

2008-02-25 Thread Kertész Vilmos
Hello Jens,

I changed the subject, as I want to get out the truth about
TeamViewer. I think, you talk about another program...

 Mine is bigger :) TeamViewer does not need any unusual open port, so
 any  user  can  use  it.  That is the good point in it. It can go thru
 corporate firewalls.
 I tried this bevore, but it's disadvantage and the
 advantage of ShowMyPC is: No installation, even possible to
 start it from a webpage.

The customer module of TV can be run also.

But  for  me, if I cannot connect to a customer because their SSH port
are  closed,  as  is the case of your ShowMyPC (you said that it needs
that open port), that is a big NO for a remote control program. Then
that is only a toy.

 And (i don't remember in details) the netviewer didn't work
 for me in some cases, or caused problems in any way.

I am talking about TeamViewer... I think, you talk about another
program below. Just in case, I wrote answers if you really referred
to TeamViewer.

 Ah, i found it:
 - they harried me with advertisements a lot

Not for me, not for my customers.

 - they even sent out advertises with size over 1 Mb

They dont ask for email... You download, install, that is all. How
would they know your email???

 - the application didn't start in 50% of my tries

You  are  not  talking about TeamViewer. I used it for ca. 500 support
session,  for  ca. 250 different persons, companies. 100%! worked. You
are talking about something else...

   - it was not able to get a connection
 ...this could be reproduced on 4 different systems
 - for a application with a fee of near 1000 Euro this is
   very poor

150 EURO for 6 months, 500 EURO for unlimited use, or 1000 EURO, but
that is a site license with a lot of extra features (including the
portable version...)

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Re: TeamViewer, only the truth (Re[2]: Slow Mail Processing)

2008-02-25 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag Kertész Vilmos,

am Montag, 25. Februar 2008 um 14:15 schrieben Sie:

 I am talking about TeamViewer... I think, you talk about another
 program below.

Yes, you are right, i talked about NetViewer - my dear :-O

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Re: Slow Mail Processing

2008-02-24 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag Kertész Vilmos,

am Samstag, 23. Februar 2008 um 17:35 schrieben Sie:

 I can connect to your computer thru
 TeamViewer  (www.teamviewer.com,  you  just have to install the client
 module,

ShowMyPC.de is availiable in English and needs no
installation at all - and is using VNC over SSH, works
through NAT and (SSH open) Firewalls.

Of course it's free.

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Re: Slow Mail Processing

2008-02-24 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag Kertész Vilmos,

sorry, i was wrong, it's

http://www.showmypc.com

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Re[2]: Slow Mail Processing

2008-02-24 Thread Kertész Vilmos
Hello Jens,

 I can connect to your computer thru
 TeamViewer  (www.teamviewer.com,  you  just have to install the client
 module,
 ShowMyPC.de is availiable in English and needs no
 installation at all - and is using VNC over SSH, works
 through NAT and (SSH open) Firewalls.

Mine is bigger :) TeamViewer does not need any unusual open port, so
any  user  can  use  it.  That is the good point in it. It can go thru
corporate firewalls.

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Slow Mail Processing

2008-02-23 Thread Kyle Goodnight
Hello BatGroup,

I had previously reported that I had thought I had found my slow mail
processing issue by removing a couple of add-in's that appeared to
impact mail processing speed. For a short while mail processing
returned to normal but quickly returned to the original state of making
reading mail too slow (6-10 seconds from one msg to be able to select
the next).

I removed TB, cleaned the registry and reinstalled TB. Sadly, the
same slow mail processing returned.  I had preserved my previous mail
database. I then un-installed TB including all data and address
books, cleaned the registry again.

I reinstalled TB using the msi from 4011 ( the latest msi I had) then
applied the exe from 40145. As of right now, everything seems to be
back to normal.  Time will tell if it is fixed permanently.

Is there a determent to updating from just replacing the exe files
and not using the msi?? What is done in the msi installs that is not
included by just replacing the exe file?

All the system cleaning I did did not improve TB performance (cleanup
need to be done anyway).

So the problem appears to have been with the data base but I am not
totally sure that was the only issue or what the problem was.  :'(

Any enlightenment would be greatly appreciated. I hate not knowing what
fixed my problem.


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Re: Slow Mail Processing

2008-02-23 Thread Kertész Vilmos
Hello Kyle,

 All the system cleaning I did did not improve TB performance (cleanup
 need to be done anyway).
 So the problem appears to have been with the data base but I am not
 totally sure that was the only issue or what the problem was.  :'(
 Any enlightenment would be greatly appreciated. I hate not knowing what
 fixed my problem.

It is hard to say... If you think, I can connect to your computer thru
TeamViewer  (www.teamviewer.com,  you  just have to install the client
module,  that  is  free,  I have the supporter module, completely safe
program),  and take a quick look at it. What timeframe would be ok for
you?

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Re[2]: Slow Mail Processing

2008-02-23 Thread Kyle Goodnight
Hello Kertész,

Saturday, February 23, 2008, 11:35:39 AM, you wrote:

 Hello Kyle,

 All the system cleaning I did did not improve TB performance (cleanup
 need to be done anyway).
 So the problem appears to have been with the data base but I am not
 totally sure that was the only issue or what the problem was.  :'(
 Any enlightenment would be greatly appreciated. I hate not knowing what
 fixed my problem.

 It is hard to say... If you think, I can connect to your computer thru
 TeamViewer  (www.teamviewer.com,  you  just have to install the client
 module,  that  is  free,  I have the supporter module, completely safe
 program),  and take a quick look at it. What timeframe would be ok for
 you?

Thanks for the offer, but it is really a moot point now. I have
completely started over with a new database and no residuals from the
last install.  All I did was re-import my address book from Outlook.
I have been running TB and leaving my mail on the server then
downloading/deleting with Outlook just to be safe.

TB seems to be functioning normally now, but it did before as well.
Somewhere along the line of installing new release versions,
something must have corrupted the database and was not repairable.  I
will monitor this install, make very few changes and document the
ones that I do, to see if it goes back to the snail mode it was in.

If it goes south again, I certainly may take you up on your offer
to assist.  Thank you very much for taking the time to respond and
offer assistance.

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Slow Mail Processing

2008-02-19 Thread Kyle Goodnight

Hi BatGroup, 

I think I have resolved the slow mail issue, at least it appears so.  When 
cleaning up TB trying to 
determine why mail processing was so slow, I had had deleted two add-in's 
previously 
(MyMacros,Shell) but somehow they did not get removed. Going through the 
Options/Preferences 
settings one last time, I noted that the two add-in's were back. So I deleted 
them again, restarted 
TB and checked to make sure they were gone..they were.  Checking mail, normal 
reading speed had 
returned, although receiving still appears  slower that other clients 
(Outlook,Thunderbird,Eudora,etc). I'm not sure which of 
the two add-in's would be impacting mail processing so negatively but it 
appears one or both were 
the reason mail was so slow.

I have the MsgCenter visible during receiving and will test to see if having 
inactive will speed up the process. What other options impacts receiving and 
posting mail to the 
folders and subsequent reading?? 

I think I can put this one away now...:'(

Thanks for all the suggestions and help from everyone who responded...

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Re: Slow Mail Processing

2008-02-19 Thread MAU
Hello Kyle,

 Well, I just do not know what else to do. I have run Maintenance on
 all of TheBat mail folders, Defraged my drives, Run chkdsk on all
 drives, Defragged and padded the MFT, and still no joy. Downloading
 the mail takes too long, once mail is processed, reading each
 message takes between 6-10 seconds from the time I select the msg
 until I am able to switch to a new message. As a last resort, I will
 delete the program, clean the registry and reinstall the program to
 see if that makes a difference.

SC Are you using a spam checker?


 I use Bitdefender but AV is turned off for TB.

Have you completely turned off Bitdefender or even uninstalled it just to 
test?

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Re: Slow Mail Processing

2008-02-18 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Kyle,
Monday, February 18, 2008, 8:59:36 PM, you wrote:

 Well, I just do not know what else to do. I have run Maintenance on all of 
 TheBat  mail folders, Defraged my
 drives, Run chkdsk on all drives, Defragged and padded the MFT, and still no 
 joy.  Downloading the mail takes
 too long, once mail is processed, reading each message takes between 6-10 
 seconds from
 the time I select the msg until I am able to switch to a new message. As a 
 last resort, I will delete the
 program, clean the registry and reinstall the program to see if that makes a 
 difference.

Are you using a spam checker?

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Slow Mail Processing

2008-02-18 Thread Kyle Goodnight


Hi BatGroup, 

Well, I just do not know what else to do. I have run Maintenance on all of 
TheBat  mail folders, Defraged my 
drives, Run chkdsk on all drives, Defragged and padded the MFT, and still no 
joy.  Downloading the mail takes 
too long, once mail is processed, reading each message takes between 6-10 
seconds from 
the time I select the msg until I am able to switch to a new message. As a last 
resort, I will delete the 
program, clean the registry and reinstall the program to see if that makes a 
difference.  

If that does not work, then deep six for me. 

-- 
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Re[2]: Slow Mail Processing

2008-02-18 Thread Kyle Goodnight
Hello Stuart,

Monday, February 18, 2008, 10:23:22 PM, you wrote:

SC Hello Kyle,
SC Monday, February 18, 2008, 8:59:36 PM, you wrote:

 Well, I just do not know what else to do. I have run Maintenance on all of 
 TheBat  mail folders, Defraged my
 drives, Run chkdsk on all drives, Defragged and padded the MFT, and still no 
 joy.  Downloading the mail takes
 too long, once mail is processed, reading each message takes between 6-10 
 seconds from
 the time I select the msg until I am able to switch to a new message. As a 
 last resort, I will delete the
 program, clean the registry and reinstall the program to see if that makes a 
 difference.

SC Are you using a spam checker?


I use Bitdefender but AV is turned off for TB.  Also have no  TB plugins for TB

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Re: Slow Mail Processing

2008-02-18 Thread Kertész Vilmos
Hello Kyle,

 too long, once mail is processed, reading each message takes between
 6-10  seconds  from  the  time  I  select the msg until I am able to
 switch to a new message.

I deleted some of my Quick Templates and my Voyager sped up a lot!

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