Re[4]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Ethan, On Sunday, November 20, 2005, 6:56:44 PM, among other things, you wrote: EJM PS Anyone know where I can get 3.0.2.33. I think that was the last EJM really stable one in that series. Am I correct? Not sure if you are correct. The only .rar file I have of that series is 3.0.2.10 if you would like that. -- Best regards, Roger Using The Bat!, version 3.62.14 Home, with , on Windows XP Pro, version 5.1, build 2600 and Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Greg Strong everyone else, on 20-Nov-2005 at 06:17 you (Greg Strong) wrote: On WinXP Pro click 'Start' | 'Programs' | 'Windows Update'. When I do so I receive the 'Error Message' below in the quote box. When I have 'Automatic Updates' set to 'Startup type' of 'Automatic', then when I click 'Start' | 'Programs' | 'Windows Update'. After receiving the 'Welcome to Windows Update' message, I click on 'Custom' and proceed with my update with no problem. You don't need to disable the Automatic Updates *Service* to disable automatic updates. In SP1, its in the properties page of My Computer (IIRC). In SP2 automatic updates are configured in the Security Center. Why are you still on SP1, Greg? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) God has infinite time to give us; but how did He give it? In one immense tract of lazy milleniums? No, He cut it up into a neat succession of new mornings. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Ethan, On 20-11-2005 00:45, you [EJM] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: PF I have noticed the the screen redraws (I.e. it is drawn twice) when PF you you first open TB! EJM I've reported this problem quite a while ago. There is something EJM very strange on the graphics side. URL in the BT - I want to support it. EJM I have EJM + Tested two different graphics cards (Radeon and nVidia) Me: Matrox G550 with 32 MB RAM. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.62.12 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras env. 4 POP3, 7 IMAP (UWIMAP 2002e) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Thomas, On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:07:06 -0500 GMT (20/11/2005, 04:07 +0700 GMT), Vili wrote: V It seems so far, that I need automated update... :( I guess you just need SP2. I don't use automated update (it caused I updated to SP2, no change. Still slow redraw of Windows... I am thinking to change to an other client... It will be strange: Hungarian distributor of TB! uses other than TB!... But I cant just wait seconds for TB! just to close a window :((( -- Vili The Bat 3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Vili everyone else, on 20-Nov-2005 at 13:46 you (Vili) wrote: I am thinking to change to an other client... It will be strange: Hungarian distributor of TB! uses other than TB!... But I cant just wait seconds for TB! just to close a window :((( As I already wrote - what about the graphics chipset drivers? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Not a day passes over this earth but men and women of no note do great deeds, speak great words, and suffer noble sorrows. -- Charles Reed Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Alexander, I am thinking to change to an other client... It will be strange: Hungarian distributor of TB! uses other than TB!... But I cant just wait seconds for TB! just to close a window :((( As I already wrote - what about the graphics chipset drivers? Sorry, that I did not answer that. So: I updated them to the newest one. No luck. I updated to SP2. No luck. But this is what I observe: 1. No open mail in full window: Using Alt+Tab and switching to other software and back to TB! main window displays TB! mail window immediately 2. Open mail in full window: Using Alt+Tab and switching to other software and back to TB! main window displays TB! mail window WITH DELAY So, I think it is TB! problem, not graphics card problem... This is my educated guess: that component that displays the mails is not updated on my system... Until v3.0.1.33 my TB! was lighning fast, I did not see this behaviour... -- Vili The Bat 3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Alexander, As I already wrote - what about the graphics chipset drivers? One more thought: when I select a folder, I have to wait ca. 1 sec to see the emails... Imagine this: you use the down arrow to reach a folder... It takes many seconds sometimes. I am not get used to it. -- Vili The Bat 3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[4]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Stuart, V So, I think it is TB! problem, not graphics card problem... This is my V educated guess: that component that displays the mails is not updated V on my system... Until v3.0.1.33 my TB! was lighning fast, I did not V see this behaviour... Time to do an uninstall/reinstall. :( What you describe is very quick here. Did that. I have installed a clean TB! pro, same effect :(( My laptop drive is 4200 rpm... Maybe this is the problem? -- Vili The Bat 3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[4]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Stuart, (And anyone else): please try it for me: Lets say you have TB! main window (A), a mail in full window (B) and an other software (C) open. In the tray I click on C. Click on A. Quick redraw of A. In the tray I click on C. Click on B. Click on A. Slow redraw of A. In the tray I click on C. Click on B. Click on C again. Click A. Slow redraw of A. It must be somehow related to TB!... You know, I wrote it ca. 2 months ago, that my TB! shows this behaviour after I use it for a while. Now I dont have to use it for a while... It is instantly there after I start it. Is there -- Vili The Bat 3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Peter, Sunday, November 20, 2005, 4:44:18 AM, you wrote: PF URL in the BT - I want to support it. I wrote a bug track quite a while ago on the memory issue. I guess I should open on on the graphic issue. Jerry -- Ethan J. Mings Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Vili, Sunday, November 20, 2005, 9:32:49 AM, you wrote: V So, I think it is TB! problem, not graphics card problem... This is my V educated guess: that component that displays the mails is not updated V on my system... Until v3.0.1.33 my TB! was lighning fast, I did not V see this behaviour... I agree and support your observation. The graphics problem is really a challenge. Just trying to shut down can be a walk away and wait process. There is something wrong in the underlying code. It needs to be addressed. Personally, if this was fixed, I would be very happy camper! :-) Jerry -- Ethan J. Mings Principal, Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Alexander, Sunday, November 20, 2005, 7:55:25 AM, you wrote: I am thinking to change to an other client... It will be strange: Hungarian distributor of TB! uses other than TB!... But I cant just wait seconds for TB! just to close a window :((( ASK As I already wrote - what about the graphics chipset drivers? I really think the graphics and chipset drivers is a non issue. Four machines later and the problem is still present. There is something wrong in the underlying code. Jerry -- Ethan J. Mings Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[5]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Vili, A reminder of what Vili typed on: Sunday, November 20, 2005 at 15:58:05 GMT +0100 V (And anyone else): please try it for me: V Lets say you have TB! main window (A), a mail in full window (B) and V an other software (C) open. Everything very quick here. Could it be one of your preferences that is causing the problem? -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.62.14 On Windows XP 5.1 Build #2600 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Vili everyone else, on 20-Nov-2005 at 15:32 you (Vili) wrote: Until v3.0.1.33 my TB! was lighning fast, I did not see this behaviour... Now that you mention it... I just started 3.0.2.10 to make a comparison, and YES, I can confirm that 3.62.14 is a LOT slower opening and closing its windows. Its not such a dramatic difference on my system than on yours, but still quite noticable. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Little Fluffy Clouds (4:04) by The Orb from the 1996 album 'Amberdelic Space [CD1]' Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[5]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Vili, Sunday, November 20, 2005, 8:45:09 AM, you wrote: V My laptop drive is 4200 rpm... Maybe this is the problem? This could be. Didn't realize they made them that slow. :) Something is definitely wrong as I have a Win98 machine with 64 MB RAM that is not as slow as you describe. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[5]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Vili, Sunday, November 20, 2005, 9:45:09 AM, you wrote: V Did that. I have installed a clean TB! pro, same effect :(( Confirmed. Jerry -- Ethan J. Mings Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Vili everyone else, on 20-Nov-2005 at 15:45 you (Vili) wrote: My laptop drive is 4200 rpm... Maybe this is the problem? This will certainly have an effect. But it may be a lot of other things, not only TBs code (I reckon it IS a TB issue now that I've tried 3.0.2.10). For example, how big are the mail folders, when was your last purgecompress, etc. - I for one find my TB getting slower when I did not compress the msgbases for a while... -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Eleven Bars (5:45) by Deep Space Network from the 1996 album 'Amberdelic Space [CD1]' Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[4]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Ethan, V So, I think it is TB! problem, not graphics card problem... This is my V educated guess: that component that displays the mails is not updated V on my system... Until v3.0.1.33 my TB! was lighning fast, I did not V see this behaviour... I agree and support your observation. The graphics problem is really a challenge. Just trying to shut down can be a walk away and wait process. There is something wrong in the underlying code. It needs to be addressed. Personally, if this was fixed, I would be very happy camper! :-) Me too :) Just to be sure: what is your graphics card type. Mine is some Sis (650-740) -- Vili The Bat 3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Vili everyone else, on 20-Nov-2005 at 16:14 you (Vili) wrote: Just to be sure: what is your graphics card type. Mine is some Sis (650-740) As we're slowly gathering more information :-) ... 4200rpm harddisk, so its a laptop computer you're using... and that SIS gfx thingie, does it have its own gfx memory or is it shared memory? It may be another reason why it is so extreme on your 'puter. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: King Canary Galactic Jump Ride (8:47) by Timeshard from the 1996 album 'Amberdelic Space [CD1]' Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[6]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Stuart, V (And anyone else): please try it for me: V Lets say you have TB! main window (A), a mail in full window (B) and V an other software (C) open. Everything very quick here. Could it be one of your preferences that is causing the problem? Give me guesses, I am open for anything... I tried everything, I guess: - no AV software - spyware check - deleted even every fonts that is not needed on my system, just Arial, Times New Roman etc. remained - I have normal POP accounts on my PC, no virtual folders, no common, nothing special I have like 3 color groups but I rather dont get rid of them... Now I deleted 2 view modes, that I dont need, still slow redraw... -- Vili The Bat 3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Alexander, My laptop drive is 4200 rpm... Maybe this is the problem? This will certainly have an effect. But it may be a lot of other things, not only TBs code (I reckon it IS a TB issue now that I've tried 3.0.2.10). For example, how big are the mail folders, when was your last purgecompress, etc. - I for one find my TB getting slower when I did not compress the msgbases for a while... First, I uploaded a movie: www.macasoft.hu/slow.mpg The other program was a file manager on the movie. Answers: - mail foilders are small. If I change between two mail folders that has 2-2 mails, same effect... - last compress: I did one a minute ago (I usually do this weekly), same effect... -- Vili The Bat 3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Alexander, Sunday, November 20, 2005, 10:09:00 AM, you wrote: ASK (I reckon it IS a TB ASK issue now that I've tried 3.0.2.10). For example, how big are the mail ASK folders, when was your last purgecompress, etc. - I for one find my TB ASK getting slower when I did not compress the msgbases for a while... That also doesn't appear to help the situation. However, here is something that is interesting. Open Preferences. Uncheck High Color Images Restart the program. I see not difference in the graphics when using the current released version. However, if I use 3.02.10, when I uncheck the feature, the graphics are different. Again, I really believe the underlying code is having a direct impact on the speed and performance of the program. I just wish I could provide additional information. Either way, I hope this is fixed shortly. Jerry -- Ethan J. Mings Principal, The Desk 99 Bronte Road - Suite 815 Oakville, Ontario, Canada. L6L 3B7 Phone 905-825-9938 e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website at http://www.thedesk.ca Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Alexander, Just to be sure: what is your graphics card type. Mine is some Sis (650-740) As we're slowly gathering more information :-) ... 4200rpm harddisk, so its a laptop computer you're using... and that SIS gfx thingie, does it have its own gfx memory or is it shared memory? It may be another reason why it is so extreme on your 'puter. Shared. But again: it was MUCH faster with v1, v2, v3.0... Also: some subversions ago it was fast when I started TB! and became slow after a while. Now it is slow after start, immediately. That is why I am saying, it is not my PC issue. I mean, it is not HW issue. Maybe I have some old oleaut.dll or other system dll? -- Vili The Bat 3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Alexander, Until v3.0.1.33 my TB! was lighning fast, I did not see this behaviour... Now that you mention it... I just started 3.0.2.10 to make a comparison, and YES, I can confirm that 3.62.14 is a LOT slower opening and closing its windows. Its not such a dramatic difference on my system than on yours, but still quite noticable. :)) I tried in the meantime just to confirm myself. You cant even compare the too... -- Vili The Bat 3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Ethan J. Mings everyone else, on 20-Nov-2005 at 16:35 you (Ethan J. Mings) wrote: I just wish I could provide additional information. Someone should start file a bug report! :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) If you can look into the seeds of time, and say which grain will grow and which will not, speak then to me. (William Shakespeare) Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
OT: Windows Update (was: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause)
Hello Greg, On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:35:04 -0600 GMT (20/11/2005, 22:35 +0700 GMT), Greg Strong wrote: GS see 'Windows XP Service Pack 2' at GS http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/default.mspx under 'After you GS install' you will see 'Windows security center'. It looks like the GS 'Security Feature' was indeed added by SP2. Ouch. Well, the website it connects to is http://update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate/v6/default.aspx?ln=en-us Maybe it will allow you to update anyway. GS See above. There is no 'Security Center' in my 'Control Panel'. I'm GS only have SP1 installed for other reasons. What you share these reasons with us? -- Cheers, Thomas. Wie man sich fettet, so wiegt man. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.62.14 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hallo Vili, On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 13:55:39 -0500GMT (19-11-2005, 19:55 +0100, where I live), you wrote: V So, please answer this questions: V 1. How many second is from the push of the Esc until you get back your V original main screen? Estimate. Less than one V 2. What is you op.system (if XP, Prof or Home?, specify that English, V Russian, etc.)? XP Pro Dutch V 3. What is your service pack? SP2, as my sig says V 4. When did you update your Windows last time? Do you have automatic V update switched on? automatic V 5. What kind of CPU you have (speed, too), how much RAM you have. P4 3GHz, 2 GB as my sig says. V 6. What is your TB! version (I am kind of interested in the .14, last V version)? see sig. -- Groetjes, Roelof Never, ever, pinch a sorceress on the butt. ribit The Bat! 3.62.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpZWJZVD0veY.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Alexander, Just to be sure: what is your graphics card type. Mine is some Sis (650-740) As we're slowly gathering more information :-) ... 4200rpm harddisk, so its a laptop computer you're using... and that SIS gfx thingie, does it have its own gfx memory or is it shared memory? It may be another reason why it is so extreme on your 'puter. Ok, I deleted (moved out from TB! dir) all of my accounts except 4. It is MUUCH faster now... Question: why the heck the number of accounts effects the redraw... TB! runs thru all of the accounts when I close a mail??? -- Vili The Bat 3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Vili, On 20-11-2005 17:10, you [V] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: V Question: why the heck the number of accounts effects the redraw... V TB! runs thru all of the accounts when I close a mail??? May be related: When I run the maintenance centre to remove duplicates in a MyGate account (I have previously posted the problem here), it takes forever to this as I have a virtual folder looking at my folders. For some reason it has to recount/reindex the whole thing instead you just remove the messages that are being removed by the maintenance centre. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.62.12 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras env. 4 POP3, 7 IMAP (UWIMAP 2002e) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Vili, Sunday, November 20, 2005, 11:10:36 AM, you wrote: V Ok, I deleted (moved out from TB! dir) all of my accounts except 4. V It is MUUCH faster now... Question: why the heck the number of V accounts effects the redraw... TB! runs thru all of the accounts when V I close a mail??? I've done that trick. When I reinstalled the program, I added one mail account at a time to see what the overall performance looked like. With one account, I could still see some screen redraw if I looked carefully. When I hit five accounts with one IMAP, I was back to the same old performance problems. Also, when the connection centre is set to open automatically and close, the screen, sticks. Finally, as mentioned earlier today, the shut down is really bad. After processing 50 e-mails this morning, the program took over 6 minutes to shut down. So, I think we can continue to play detective. The clues continue to point to the same problem, code issues. My personal expectation is that the program will operate with the same level of speed performance or better than 3.0.2.10. The programmers really need to dig into this one. Jerry PS Anyone know where I can get 3.0.2.33. I think that was the last really stable one in that series. Am I correct? -- Ethan J. Mings Principal, The Desk 99 Bronte Road - Suite 815 Oakville, Ontario, Canada. L6L 3B7 Phone 905-825-9938 e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website at http://www.thedesk.ca Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[4]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Ethan, See the mail I sent in private, too... So, I think we can continue to play detective. The clues continue to point to the same problem, code issues. My personal expectation is that the program will operate with the same level of speed performance or better than 3.0.2.10. PS Anyone know where I can get 3.0.2.33. I think that was the last really stable one in that series. Am I correct? Hmmm. I advise 3.0.1.33. But now, I would say, 3.6.2.14 will be ok, as you said, you have a faulty account, also... -- Vili The Bat 3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello all, So, you could see this thread about slow closing of TB! and slow reappearance of the message list (or main screen) if you open and close a mail in full window. So, please, open a mail in full window (Enter) and close the mail (Esc). So, please answer this questions: 1. How many second is from the push of the Esc until you get back your original main screen? Estimate. 2. What is you op.system (if XP, Prof or Home?, specify that English, Russian, etc.)? 3. What is your service pack? 4. When did you update your Windows last time? Do you have automatic update switched on? 5. What kind of CPU you have (speed, too), how much RAM you have. 6. What is your TB! version (I am kind of interested in the .14, last version)? I have a XP Home, with SP1, and 512 MB RAM, it takes 3-4 sec to close a mail... It is not right. As other people have the same problem, with this survey I would like to find out, if my opsys have some old component that redraws that screen this slow, or not... -- Vili Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Vili, A reminder of what Vili typed on: Saturday, November 19, 2005 at 13:55:39 GMT -0500 V 1. How many second is from the push of the Esc until you get back your V original main screen? Estimate. 1 second V 2. What is you op.system (if XP, Prof or Home?, specify that English, V Russian, etc.)? XP Home, English V 3. What is your service pack? SP2 V 4. When did you update your Windows last time? Do you have automatic V update switched on? Recent, but now automatic. V 5. What kind of CPU you have (speed, too), how much RAM you have. AMD Athalon XP 2500+ 1.83 Ghz 512MB RAM V 6. What is your TB! version (I am kind of interested in the .14, last V version)? Using The Bat! v3.62.14 -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.62.14 On Windows XP 5.1 Build #2600 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 13:55:39 -0500, Vili asked: So, please answer this questions: 1. How many second is from the push of the Esc until you get back your original main screen? Estimate. 0.023 seconds. 2. What is you op.system (if XP, Prof or Home?, specify that English, Russian, etc.)? XP Pro NL 3. What is your service pack? SP2 4. When did you update your Windows last time? Do you have automatic update switched on? Couple of weeks ago (upgraded to sp2). No 5. What kind of CPU you have (speed, too), how much RAM you have. P3 (933MHz) 384 MB RAM. 6. What is your TB! version (I am kind of interested in the .14, last version)? 2.12.03 Arjan -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Stuart, V 3. What is your service pack? SP2 I start to suspect that it will be the cause... I have an SP2, too, TB! is fast on that, too. -- Vili Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Arjan, 6. What is your TB! version (I am kind of interested in the .14, last version)? 2.12.03 Cheater :) With that version I have fast closing too :))) Thanks! It seems so far, that I need automated update... :( -- Vili Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Vili, On 19-11-2005 19:55, you [V] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: V 1. How many second is from the push of the Esc until you get back V your original main screen? Estimate. 0.8 sec. Which to me is a bit too slow. I would expect around 0.3-0.5 sec. V 2. What is you op.system (if XP, Prof or Home?, specify that English, V Russian, etc.)? English (see sig). V 3. What is your service pack? See sig. V 4. When did you update your Windows last time? Do you have automatic V update switched on? Automatically. V 5. What kind of CPU you have (speed, too), how much RAM you have. Athlon XP 2200+, 1 GB. V 6. What is your TB! version (I am kind of interested in the .14, last V version)? See sig. I have noticed the the screen redraws (I.e. it is drawn twice) when you you first open TB! -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.62.12 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras env. 4 POP3, 7 IMAP (UWIMAP 2002e) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Peter, Saturday, November 19, 2005, 6:09:53 PM, you wrote: PF I have noticed the the screen redraws (I.e. it is drawn twice) when you PF you first open TB! I've reported this problem quite a while ago. There is something very strange on the graphics side. I have + Tested two different graphics cards (Radeon and nVidia) + Doubled the memory (from 512 to 1Gig) + Made sure by XP Professional SP2 were up to date. + Change graphics options (Windows Advanced Features) + Tested it on three different machines (Laptop, PII and and a PIII) + Cleaned out the registry + deleted the tbuser file numerous times + Done a new install twice. Still the graphics is a real problem. I think there is something in the underlying code. However, I am only a user and I can only report my problems from the perspective of using the program in the field. I suspect the programers are aware of this problem. Jerry -- Ethan J. Mings Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Greg, On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 14:08:47 -0600 GMT (20/11/2005, 03:08 +0700 GMT), Greg Strong wrote: GS Updated Saturday, November 12, 2005. You can NOT update WinXP GS Pro with IE unless automatic update switch is on, so I leave off until GS I want to update. That's not true. If I update, I do it manually only. In the Security Center, check out the left pane, Resources. click on Check for the latest... and it will take you there. MS will check on your computer which updates you have already installed and offer those you haven't. You can choose which ones you want to download, and also choose whether you want to be reminded of the otehrs later. -- Cheers, Thomas. Just because you're not paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.62.14 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Vili, On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:07:06 -0500 GMT (20/11/2005, 04:07 +0700 GMT), Vili wrote: V It seems so far, that I need automated update... :( I guess you just need SP2. I don't use automated update (it caused problems with one of those anti-malware packs) and haven't updated for two months or so. TB windows close fast, but I am unable to estimate fractions of seconds. Hat's off to Arjan, who can even estimate milliseconds g. OS: XP Pro SP2 English. Hard: Intel P4 1.7GHz, 512MB. Soft: TB 3.62.14 -- Cheers, Thomas. What to not say to the nice policeman: I was trying to keep up with traffic. Yes, I know there is no other car around--that's how far ahead of me they are. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.62.14 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Greg, On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 23:17:48 -0600 GMT (20/11/2005, 12:17 +0700 GMT), Greg Strong wrote: GS I believe the 'Security Center' is added to the 'Control Box' with GS SP2. I have not updated to SP2 for other reasons. So your computer may GS work differently, than mine. :) Yes, I have SP2. But I don't this this feature was added only with SP2, but I may be wrong. Double-click on the desktop icon My Computer, then Control Panel (that's in the left pane, second from top and is called Other places; Control Panel is the last option). In the Control Panel you can access the Security Center when you click on that large icon. It's the last one of ten options here. When the Security Center opens, you have a pane on the left that's called Resources. If that's not the case, please let me know what is different in your version. -- Cheers, Thomas. In der Sahara liegt der Sand so locker, das heute Berge sind, wo morgen Thaeler waren. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.62.14 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
