Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available
Stefan, On 19-12-2005 19:37, you [ST] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: ST Two weeks or so? ;-\ It looks like a local problem because I don't ST see any other people complaining about it. Then you are not looking properly. I have sent confirmation messages for the last 2 or 3 betas before .14 where I suddenly have not got any. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.63.14 (Beta) Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras env. 4 POP3, 7 IMAP (UWIMAP 2002e) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available
Hi 9Val, on Monday, December 19, 2005 at 16:36 you wrote in message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] among others: Hello All, The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ ***Also with this Beta I lost all Polish letters in my templates!*** -- Best regards, Roland pgpm0jx3yONnO.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : How long has this been going on now? M I see you have been reporting this or similar problems at least since M 3.63.08, but I don't recall anyone else having the same problem, at M least for so many versions. Is there anything that could make your M system sort of 'unique'? That means nothing, of course. I recall when I reported that the backup procedure had a bug and, at first, nobody cared and/or was able to reproduce it. It was clearly an example that, because only one person is being affected, the problem may be global and not local. Nevertheless, the application is behaving badly to a different environment. You can check the previous thread... mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Computer virus: Electronic Microorganism. Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005, at 17:36:40 [GMT +0200] (which was 16:36 where I live) 9val wrote: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: [-] (#0005478) Clicking on hot-tracked address header items did not have effect in the message editor [-] (#0005471) Cannot focus disabled or invisible window error when a message editor was closed with automatic suggestion list open [-] (#0005485) Ctrl+S was not working when a header was modified in editor [-] some header editor cosmetics [-] Custom header fields were unmanageable from templates Up and running, I get the impression after almost a day that it is a pretty stable version or ;-) -- Henk M. de Bruijn __ The Bat! Natural E-Mail System version 3.63.15 (Beta) Pro on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey at: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0X11EECBEEB464DD0F Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trust pgpp5W9qOI185.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available
Hello Goncalo, How long has this been going on now? M I see you have been reporting this or similar problems at least since M 3.63.08, but I don't recall anyone else having the same problem, at M least for so many versions. Is there anything that could make your M system sort of 'unique'? That means nothing, of course. I recall when I reported that the backup procedure had a bug and, at first, nobody cared and/or was able to reproduce it. It was clearly an example that, because only one person is being affected, the problem may be global and not local. Of course. My statement doesn't not imply, I think, that the problem may not be due to TB. But it may be a problem that only shows up in quite specific and 'unique' circumstances. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.15 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available
Hi Miguel, In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : It was clearly an example that, because only one person is being affected, the problem may be global and not local. M Of course. My statement doesn't not imply, I think, that the M problem may not be due to TB. But it may be a problem that only M shows up in quite specific and 'unique' circumstances. You're right and I probably overreacted (and I apologize if I was in any manner rude) but normally the it happens only to you statements lead to the developers disregarding the problem because it only affects a small group of users. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias How do you cure a woman of Nymphomania? Marry her! Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available
Hello Goncalo, It was clearly an example that, because only one person is being affected, the problem may be global and not local. M Of course. My statement doesn't not imply, I think, that the M problem may not be due to TB. But it may be a problem that only M shows up in quite specific and 'unique' circumstances. You're right and I probably overreacted (and I apologize if I was in any manner rude) but normally the it happens only to you statements lead to the developers disregarding the problem because it only affects a small group of users. No, you were not rude. At least I didn't think so :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.15 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available
Hello All, The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: [-] (#0005478) Clicking on hot-tracked address header items did not have effect in the message editor [-] (#0005471) Cannot focus disabled or invisible window error when a message editor was closed with automatic suggestion list open [-] (#0005485) Ctrl+S was not working when a header was modified in editor [-] some header editor cosmetics [-] Custom header fields were unmanageable from templates -- 9Val Current beta is 3.63.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available
On Monday, December 19, 2005, 16:36:40, 9Val wrote: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available from: --- The Bat!: thebat.exe - Application Error --- The instruction at 0x0080e8ec referenced memory at 0x003c. The memory could not be read. Click on OK to terminate the program Click on CANCEL to debug the program --- OK Cancel --- thebat.exe caused an Access Violation at location 0080e8ec in module thebat.exe Reading from location 003c. Registers: eax=021fb700 ebx=0080e8bd ecx= edx=139b esi= edi=0013eff4 eip=0080e8ec esp=0013f000 ebp=0013f050 iopl=0 nv up ei pl zr na po nc cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003b gs= efl=00010246 Call stack: 0080E8EC thebat.exe:0080E8EC 007B20D2 thebat.exe:007B20D2 00455B86 thebat.exe:00455B86 7739C3B7 USER32.dll:7739C3B7 EnableMenuItem 7739C484 USER32.dll:7739C484 EnableMenuItem 7739C73C USER32.dll:7739C73C GetWindowLongW 7739C778 USER32.dll:7739C778 DispatchMessageW 77392B9D USER32.dll:77392B9D CallMsgFilterW 7738F122 USER32.dll:7738F122 DefDlgProcW 773A1722 USER32.dll:773A1722 SoftModalMessageBox 773A1004 USER32.dll:773A1004 AppendMenuA 773B1A28 USER32.dll:773B1A28 MessageBoxTimeoutW 773D5E47 USER32.dll:773D5E47 MessageBoxTimeoutA 773BDD8B USER32.dll:773BDD8B MessageBoxExA 773BD923 USER32.dll:773BD923 MessageBoxA 00C02723 thebat.exe:00C02723 00C0283B thebat.exe:00C0283B 00659884 thebat.exe:00659884 00C02609 thebat.exe:00C02609 00C02531 thebat.exe:00C02531 00BF22E4 thebat.exe:00BF22E4 00BF2EAB thebat.exe:00BF2EAB 00C32EA1 thebat.exe:00C32EA1 77E523CD kernel32.dll:77E523CD IsProcessorFeaturePresent How long has this been going on now? -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] When things are going well, someone will inevitably experiment detrimentally. -- Boyle's Second Law Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available
Hello all, Monday, December 19, 2005, Jernej Simončič wrote: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available from: --- The Bat!: thebat.exe - Application Error --- The instruction at 0x0080e8ec referenced memory at 0x003c. The memory could not be read. when it happens? You have reported this in many betas, but I can't find more info about it. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available
Hi Jernej! How long has this been going on now? Two weeks or so? ;-\ It looks like a local problem because I don't see any other people complaining about it. First, try to remove the USER.DEF file. If it doesn't help, name the programs and TB! plug-ins you're always running. -- Cheers! Stefan Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available
On Monday, December 19, 2005, 19:32:32, Marek Mikus wrote: when it happens? You have reported this in many betas, but I can't find more info about it. Usually while I have TB sitting in background, though it seems to be connected with checking mail in one of my IMAP accounts. BTW, (to developers) there are components for Delphi that give you full backtrace (and much more) when an AV happens, and some of them are even free. (40tude Dialog has one such component, if it's about to crash, or when it freezes, it'll show detailed information about what was going on at the time of problem). -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] There's no such thing as a large whiskey. -- Rev. Mahaffy's Observation Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available
Hello Jernej, The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available from: --- The Bat!: thebat.exe - Application Error --- snipped How long has this been going on now? I see you have been reporting this or similar problems at least since 3.63.08, but I don't recall anyone else having the same problem, at least for so many versions. Is there anything that could make your system sort of 'unique'? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.15 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available
On Monday, December 19, 2005, 19:37:34, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: First, try to remove the USER.DEF file. Where is this file supposed to be? If it doesn't help, name the programs and TB! plug-ins you're always running. I'm not using any plug-ins, and I have the following programs running practically all the time: - Opera 9.0tp1 - 40tude Dialog (currently 2.0.15.84/beta 38) - FAR Manager (1.70 alpha6 build 2039) - TightVNC Viewer 1.3dev7 - HydraIRC 0.3.151 Tray applications: - UltraMon 2.5.22.0 - E-Mu PatchMix DSP 1.81.00 - kX Mixer 5.10.00.3538 - Genius Wireless Optical Pro Control Panel 7.06.00 - ASUS PC Probe - PopFile 0.22.3 - WebWasher 3.4 build 57 - Proxomitron Naoko-4.3 (2002-6-9) - DaemonTools 4.00HE - VirtuaWin 2.xx (special build) - nVidia tray - UltraVNC server 1.0.0 My system is Windows 2003 Standard Server SP1 + all patches, 3GB ram. I have 8 POP3 accounts (1 is set not to receive mail though) and 2 IMAP accounts (both IMAP accounts are hosted on Courier IMAP v4 servers). -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] All people are cremated equal. -- Beauregard's Second Law Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available
Hi all, Monday, December 19, 2005, 6:43:02 PM, you wrote: BTW, (to developers) there are components for Delphi that give you full backtrace (and much more) when an AV happens, and some of them are even free. (40tude Dialog has one such component, if it's about to crash, or when it freezes, it'll show detailed information about what was going on at the time of problem). Our developers use, madExcept from Madshi (www.madshi.net/madExceptDescription.htm). Since we started using it, it helped us track down numerous access violations, most of which have been reported by our users. -- Warmest regards, Paul Created using TheBat! 3.62.14 on Windows XP Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available
Hello 9Val everyone else, on 19-Dez-2005 at 16:36 you (9Val) wrote: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here's a reply to the announcement... I'm not saying its up and running until I've seen how the message comes back from the list. ;-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) One becomes a critic when one cannot be an artist, just as one becomes a stool pigeon when he cannot be a soldier. -- Gustave Flaubert Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available
Het was op maandag 19 december 2005 om 16:36 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available' : Hoi 9Val, 9 The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available from: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ and also from http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tbb36315.rar for those without access to that particular part of the site... :) and it fires up smoothly and thusfar is working. Should I find stuff... hell I will let you know! grin -- groeten, Cees Bend the facts to fit the conclusion. It's easier that way. __ The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available
Hello ...in addition to my previous message... on 19-Dez-2005 at 20:32 you (Alexander S. Kunz) wrote: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here's a reply to the announcement... I'm not saying its up and running until I've seen how the message comes back from the list. ;-) Looks like the headers everything are back. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) If you want to kill any idea in the world today, get a committee working on it. -- Charles Kettering Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available
Hi Alexander S. Kunz, Monday, December 19, 2005 you let us know -possibly edited- : Looks like the headers everything are back. :-) Carefully stepping on the ice... holds me... -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.63.15 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available
Het was op maandag 19 december 2005 om 20:47 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available' : Hoi Alexander, The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here's a reply to the announcement... I'm not saying its up and running until I've seen how the message comes back from the list. ;-) ASK Looks like the headers everything are back. :-) yesss I did NOT change anything overhere, headerwise or whatever, but BANG!! there was my rogue again! So they definitely fixed stuff, for which I'm thankful ;) It's starting to rock, and let's hope it will roll as well! grin -- groeten, Cees ZAR: Zero Any Register __ The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available
Het was op maandag 19 december 2005 om 20:50 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available' : Hoi Charlene, Looks like the headers everything are back. :-) CF Carefully stepping on the ice... holds me... Careful babe! Watch your diet! hehehe :kiss: -- groeten, Cees Sommige mensen spreken wartaal, ik spreek digitaal! __ The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available
On Monday, December 19, 2005, 20:16:47, Paul Meathrel wrote: Our developers use, madExcept from Madshi (www.madshi.net/madExceptDescription.htm). Since we started using it, it helped us track down numerous access violations, most of which have been reported by our users. That looks like what Dialog is using. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Speak softly and own a big, mean Doberman. -- Dave's Rule of Street Survival Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/