Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-21 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Stefan,

On 19-12-2005 19:37, you [ST] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
ST Two weeks or so? ;-\ It looks like a local problem because I don't
ST see any other people complaining about it.

Then you are not looking properly. I have sent confirmation messages for
the last 2 or 3 betas before .14 where I suddenly have not got any.

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Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-21 Thread Roland Burger
Hi 9Val,

on Monday, December 19, 2005 at 16:36 you wrote in message
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
among others:

 Hello All,

 The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available from:
 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

***Also with this Beta I lost all Polish letters in my templates!***

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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-21 Thread Goncalo Farias

In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

 How long has this been going on now?

M I see you have been reporting this or similar problems at least since
M 3.63.08, but I don't recall anyone else having the same problem, at
M least for so many versions. Is there anything that could make your
M system sort of 'unique'?

That  means  nothing,  of  course.

I  recall  when I reported that the backup procedure had a bug and, at
first, nobody cared and/or was able to reproduce it.

It  was  clearly  an  example  that,  because only one person is being
affected, the problem may be global and not local.
Nevertheless,  the  application  is  behaving  badly  to  a  different
environment. You can check the previous thread...
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-21 Thread Henk M. de Bruijn
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005, at 17:36:40 [GMT +0200] (which was 16:36 where I
live) 9val wrote:

 The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available from:
 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

 Here is a short list of changes:
 [-] (#0005478) Clicking  on hot-tracked address header items did not
have effect in the message editor
 [-] (#0005471) Cannot focus disabled or invisible window error when
a  message  editor was closed with automatic suggestion
list open 
 [-] (#0005485) Ctrl+S  was not working when a header was modified in
editor
 [-] some header editor cosmetics
 [-] Custom header fields were unmanageable from templates

Up and running, I get the impression after almost a day that it is a
pretty stable version or ;-)

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Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-21 Thread MAU
Hello Goncalo,

 How long has this been going on now?

M I see you have been reporting this or similar problems at least since
M 3.63.08, but I don't recall anyone else having the same problem, at
M least for so many versions. Is there anything that could make your
M system sort of 'unique'?

 That  means  nothing,  of  course.

 I  recall  when I reported that the backup procedure had a bug and, at
 first, nobody cared and/or was able to reproduce it.

 It  was  clearly  an  example  that,  because only one person is being
 affected, the problem may be global and not local.

Of course. My statement doesn't not imply, I think, that the problem may
not be due to TB. But it may be a problem that only shows up in quite
specific and 'unique' circumstances.

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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-21 Thread Goncalo Farias
Hi Miguel,

In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

 It  was  clearly  an  example  that,  because only one person is being
 affected, the problem may be global and not local.

M Of  course.  My  statement  doesn't  not  imply,  I think, that the
M problem  may  not  be  due to TB. But it may be a problem that only
M shows up in quite specific and 'unique' circumstances.

You're  right  and I probably overreacted (and I apologize if I was in
any  manner rude) but normally the it happens only to you statements
lead  to  the  developers  disregarding  the problem because it only
affects a small group of users.

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Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-21 Thread MAU
Hello Goncalo,

 It  was  clearly  an  example  that,  because only one person is being
 affected, the problem may be global and not local.

M Of  course.  My  statement  doesn't  not  imply,  I think, that the
M problem  may  not  be  due to TB. But it may be a problem that only
M shows up in quite specific and 'unique' circumstances.

 You're  right  and I probably overreacted (and I apologize if I was in
 any  manner rude) but normally the it happens only to you statements
 lead  to  the  developers  disregarding  the problem because it only
 affects a small group of users.

No, you were not rude. At least I didn't think so :)

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The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-19 Thread 9Val
Hello All,

The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available from:
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

Here is a short list of changes:
[-] (#0005478) Clicking  on hot-tracked address header items did not
   have effect in the message editor
[-] (#0005471) Cannot focus disabled or invisible window error when
   a  message  editor was closed with automatic suggestion
   list open 
[-] (#0005485) Ctrl+S  was not working when a header was modified in
   editor
[-] some header editor cosmetics
[-] Custom header fields were unmanageable from templates

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Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-19 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, December 19, 2005, 16:36:40, 9Val wrote:

 The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available from:

---
The Bat!: thebat.exe - Application Error
---
The instruction at 0x0080e8ec referenced memory at 0x003c. The memory 
could not be read.


Click on OK to terminate the program
Click on CANCEL to debug the program
---
OK   Cancel   
---
thebat.exe caused an Access Violation at location 0080e8ec in module thebat.exe 
Reading from location 003c.

Registers:
eax=021fb700 ebx=0080e8bd ecx= edx=139b esi= edi=0013eff4
eip=0080e8ec esp=0013f000 ebp=0013f050 iopl=0 nv up ei pl zr na po nc
cs=001b  ss=0023  ds=0023  es=0023  fs=003b  gs= efl=00010246

Call stack:
0080E8EC  thebat.exe:0080E8EC
007B20D2  thebat.exe:007B20D2
00455B86  thebat.exe:00455B86
7739C3B7  USER32.dll:7739C3B7  EnableMenuItem
7739C484  USER32.dll:7739C484  EnableMenuItem
7739C73C  USER32.dll:7739C73C  GetWindowLongW
7739C778  USER32.dll:7739C778  DispatchMessageW
77392B9D  USER32.dll:77392B9D  CallMsgFilterW
7738F122  USER32.dll:7738F122  DefDlgProcW
773A1722  USER32.dll:773A1722  SoftModalMessageBox
773A1004  USER32.dll:773A1004  AppendMenuA
773B1A28  USER32.dll:773B1A28  MessageBoxTimeoutW
773D5E47  USER32.dll:773D5E47  MessageBoxTimeoutA
773BDD8B  USER32.dll:773BDD8B  MessageBoxExA
773BD923  USER32.dll:773BD923  MessageBoxA
00C02723  thebat.exe:00C02723
00C0283B  thebat.exe:00C0283B
00659884  thebat.exe:00659884
00C02609  thebat.exe:00C02609
00C02531  thebat.exe:00C02531
00BF22E4  thebat.exe:00BF22E4
00BF2EAB  thebat.exe:00BF2EAB
00C32EA1  thebat.exe:00C32EA1
77E523CD  kernel32.dll:77E523CD  IsProcessorFeaturePresent


How long has this been going on now?

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Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-19 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Monday, December 19, 2005, Jernej Simončič wrote:

 The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available from:

 ---
 The Bat!: thebat.exe - Application Error
 ---
 The instruction at 0x0080e8ec referenced memory at 0x003c.
 The memory could not be read.

when it happens? You have reported this in many betas, but I can't
find more info about it.

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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-19 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hi Jernej!

 How long has this been going on now?

Two weeks or so? ;-\ It looks like a local problem because I don't see any
other people complaining about it.

First, try to remove the USER.DEF file. If it doesn't help, name the
programs and TB! plug-ins you're always running.



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Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-19 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, December 19, 2005, 19:32:32, Marek Mikus wrote:

 when it happens? You have reported this in many betas, but I can't
 find more info about it.

Usually while I have TB sitting in background, though it seems to be
connected with checking mail in one of my IMAP accounts.

BTW, (to developers) there are components for Delphi that give you full
backtrace (and much more) when an AV happens, and some of them are even
free. (40tude Dialog has one such component, if it's about to crash, or
when it freezes, it'll show detailed information about what was going on at
the time of problem).

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Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-19 Thread MAU
Hello Jernej,

 The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available from:

 ---
 The Bat!: thebat.exe - Application Error
 ---
snipped

 How long has this been going on now?

I see you have been reporting this or similar problems at least since
3.63.08, but I don't recall anyone else having the same problem, at
least for so many versions. Is there anything that could make your
system sort of 'unique'?

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Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-19 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, December 19, 2005, 19:37:34, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

 First, try to remove the USER.DEF file.

Where is this file supposed to be?

 If it doesn't help, name the
 programs and TB! plug-ins you're always running.

I'm not using any plug-ins, and I have the following programs running
practically all the time:

- Opera 9.0tp1
- 40tude Dialog (currently 2.0.15.84/beta 38)
- FAR Manager (1.70 alpha6 build 2039)
- TightVNC Viewer 1.3dev7
- HydraIRC 0.3.151

Tray applications:
- UltraMon 2.5.22.0
- E-Mu PatchMix DSP 1.81.00
- kX Mixer 5.10.00.3538
- Genius Wireless Optical Pro Control Panel 7.06.00
- ASUS PC Probe
- PopFile 0.22.3
- WebWasher 3.4 build 57
- Proxomitron Naoko-4.3 (2002-6-9)
- DaemonTools 4.00HE
- VirtuaWin 2.xx (special build)
- nVidia tray
- UltraVNC server 1.0.0

My system is Windows 2003 Standard Server SP1 + all patches, 3GB ram.

I have 8 POP3 accounts (1 is set not to receive mail though) and 2 IMAP
accounts (both IMAP accounts are hosted on Courier IMAP v4 servers).

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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-19 Thread Paul Meathrel
Hi all, 

Monday, December 19, 2005, 6:43:02 PM, you wrote:

 BTW, (to developers) there are components for Delphi that give you full
 backtrace (and much more) when an AV happens, and some of them are even
 free. (40tude Dialog has one such component, if it's about to crash, or
 when it freezes, it'll show detailed information about what was going on at
 the time of problem).

Our developers use, madExcept from Madshi 
(www.madshi.net/madExceptDescription.htm). Since we started using it, it helped 
us track down numerous access violations, most of which have been reported by 
our users. 

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Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-19 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello 9Val  everyone else,

on 19-Dez-2005 at 16:36 you (9Val) wrote:

 The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available from:
 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

Here's a reply to the announcement... I'm not saying its up and running
until I've seen how the message comes back from the list. ;-)

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Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-19 Thread Cees


Het was op maandag 19 december 2005 om 16:36 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'The 
Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available' :

Hoi 9Val,

9 The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available from:
9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

 and also from http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tbb36315.rar

 for those without access to that particular part of the site... :)

 and it fires up smoothly and thusfar is working.
 Should I find stuff... hell I will let you know! grin
 
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Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-19 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello ...in addition to my previous message...

on 19-Dez-2005 at 20:32 you (Alexander S. Kunz) wrote:

 The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available from:
 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

 Here's a reply to the announcement... I'm not saying its up and running
 until I've seen how the message comes back from the list. ;-)

Looks like the headers  everything are back. :-)

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Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-19 Thread Charlene Ferrara
Hi Alexander S. Kunz,

Monday, December 19, 2005 
you let us know -possibly edited- :

 Looks like the headers  everything are back. :-)

Carefully stepping on the ice... holds me...

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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-19 Thread Cees


Het was op maandag 19 december 2005 om 20:47 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'The 
Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available' :

Hoi Alexander,

 The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available from:
 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

 Here's a reply to the announcement... I'm not saying its up and running
 until I've seen how the message comes back from the list. ;-)

ASK Looks like the headers  everything are back. :-)

 yesss I did NOT change anything overhere, headerwise
 or whatever, but BANG!! there was my rogue again!

 So they definitely fixed stuff, for which I'm thankful ;)

 It's starting to rock, and let's hope it will roll as well! grin

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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-19 Thread Cees


Het was op maandag 19 december 2005 om 20:50 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'The 
Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available' :

Hoi Charlene,

 Looks like the headers  everything are back. :-)
CF Carefully stepping on the ice... holds me...

 Careful babe! Watch your diet! hehehe :kiss:

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Re: The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-19 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, December 19, 2005, 20:16:47, Paul Meathrel wrote:

 Our developers use, madExcept from Madshi
 (www.madshi.net/madExceptDescription.htm). Since we started using it, it
 helped us track down numerous access violations, most of which have been 
 reported by our users.

That looks like what Dialog is using.

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