Re: The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta -inserting smileys
Hello Roelof! On Thursday, July 27, 2006, 2:10 PM, you wrote: MB>> But, wonder why Mark did not get any AVs or Alert Boxes? He said that MB>> TB! simply froze and he could not even get out of it with the Task MB>> Manager. mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I've even had TB just simply quit on me while playing with the 'insert > smiley' feature, no AV, no nothing, just gone. > Definitely not release-ready I guess. > Whenever I had AVs I had to use Task Manager. Thanks a mil for the further input. Would you have time to put a note at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5956 ? (I've just now edited my own note, to put in the one-time error alert that I got when I clicked on a smiley to insert it.) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.81.12 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta -inserting smileys
Hallo Mary, On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 13:50:54 -0500GMT (27-7-2006, 20:50 , where I live), you wrote: MB> But, wonder why Mark did not get any AVs or Alert Boxes? He said that MB> TB! simply froze and he could not even get out of it with the Task MB> Manager. mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I've even had TB just simply quit on me while playing with the 'insert smiley' feature, no AV, no nothing, just gone. Definitely not release-ready I guess. Whenever I had AVs I had to use Task Manager. -- Groetjes, Roelof Love is chemistry; sex is mechanical engineering. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpJeokPEm8dX.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta -inserting smileys
Hello Charlene! On Thursday, July 27, 2006, 12:20 PM, you wrote: GifImage:8 EInvalidOperation Canvas does not allow drawing >> Ah! That's the language which was on the Alert Boxes (which I >> perceived at first as cascading AVs) that came up for me. There were >> dozens of them before I used the Task Manager to close TB! >> However, when I unpacked the Except log you sent using WinRar, saving >> it to My Documents, the language shows as: >> "v3.81.12 Beta /Charlene 26.07.2006 22:59:33 GifImage:6 >> EOutOfResources Out of system resources" >> So, I did not recognize it as being the same as my own Alert boxes. >> Thanks a million for clarifying this. > The very beginning is as follows: > v3.81.12 Beta /Charlene 26.07.2006 22:59:33 GifImage:6 EOSError System Error. > Code: 87. > Falscher Parameter > v3.81.12 Beta /Charlene 26.07.2006 22:59:33 GifImage:8 > EOutOfResources Out of system resources > v3.81.12 Beta /Charlene 26.07.2006 22:59:33 GifImage:8 > EInvalidOperation Canvas does not allow drawing > v3.81.12 Beta /Charlene 26.07.2006 22:59:33 GifImage:8 > EInvalidOperation Canvas does not allow drawing > v3.81.12 Beta /Charlene 26.07.2006 22:59:33 GifImage:8 > EOutOfResources Out of system resources > v3.81.12 Beta /Charlene 26.07.2006 22:59:33 GifImage:6 EOSError System Error. > Code: 87. Okay. I see it now. Word did not display it clear to the top--there was a slight scrollbar gap. I've gone back now and scrolled to the very top. > So a EOSError followed by the "out of resources" note leads to a nearly > endless loop of > "GifImage:8 EInvalidOperation Canvas does not allow drawing" I see why this except-log would be useful to the development team. But, wonder why Mark did not get any AVs or Alert Boxes? He said that TB! simply froze and he could not even get out of it with the Task Manager. mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> I agree with you that this feature should be reworked in-depth. >> Perhaps you could describe its shortcomings in an issue report at Bug >> Tracker? >> I would then put a supporting note. > Please do so at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5956 and help me > out with some more clarifying words on it. :) Done, as soon as I saw your follow-up message with the link. :) Hope the bug report will get assigned soon. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.81.12 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta -inserting smileys
Hello Mary, Thursday, July 27, 2006 you wrote -surely not edited- : >>> GifImage:8 EInvalidOperation Canvas does not allow drawing > Ah! That's the language which was on the Alert Boxes (which I > perceived at first as cascading AVs) that came up for me. There were > dozens of them before I used the Task Manager to close TB! > However, when I unpacked the Except log you sent using WinRar, saving > it to My Documents, the language shows as: > "v3.81.12 Beta /Charlene 26.07.2006 22:59:33 GifImage:6 > EOutOfResources Out of system resources" > So, I did not recognize it as being the same as my own Alert boxes. > Thanks a million for clarifying this. The very beginning is as follows: v3.81.12 Beta /Charlene 26.07.2006 22:59:33 GifImage:6 EOSError System Error. Code: 87. Falscher Parameter v3.81.12 Beta /Charlene 26.07.2006 22:59:33 GifImage:8 EOutOfResources Out of system resources v3.81.12 Beta /Charlene 26.07.2006 22:59:33 GifImage:8 EInvalidOperation Canvas does not allow drawing v3.81.12 Beta /Charlene 26.07.2006 22:59:33 GifImage:8 EInvalidOperation Canvas does not allow drawing v3.81.12 Beta /Charlene 26.07.2006 22:59:33 GifImage:8 EOutOfResources Out of system resources v3.81.12 Beta /Charlene 26.07.2006 22:59:33 GifImage:6 EOSError System Error. Code: 87. So a EOSError followed by the "out of resources" note leads to a nearly endless loop of "GifImage:8 EInvalidOperation Canvas does not allow drawing" >> I agree with you that this feature should be reworked in-depth. > Perhaps you could describe its shortcomings in an issue report at Bug > Tracker? > I would then put a supporting note. Please do so at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5956 and help me out with some more clarifying words on it. :) -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.81.12 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta -inserting smileys
Hello Charlene! On Thursday, July 27, 2006, 12:02 PM, you wrote: >> Inserting a "smile" caused a heavy malfunction > I added a note: > https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5956 > any support is welcome, you may also add your > remarks on your detections there. Done! Thanks a million!! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.81.12 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta -inserting smileys
Hello Charlene! On Thursday, July 27, 2006, 11:44 AM, you wrote: >> I have just encountered a series of AV messages that TB! cannot draw >> an image after using the "Insert Smile" dialogue window > Thank you for being such an adventurous beta-testing friend. Have you > had the opportunity to have a look at the except.log file? In my case, > there were dozens of lines of text that all said the same. The beginning > of the error log contains some words about -wait, I found it: >> GifImage:8 EInvalidOperation Canvas does not allow drawing Ah! That's the language which was on the Alert Boxes (which I perceived at first as cascading AVs) that came up for me. There were dozens of them before I used the Task Manager to close TB! However, when I unpacked the Except log you sent using WinRar, saving it to My Documents, the language shows as: "v3.81.12 Beta /Charlene 26.07.2006 22:59:33 GifImage:6 EOutOfResources Out of system resources" So, I did not recognize it as being the same as my own Alert boxes. Thanks a million for clarifying this. > This was the start of a cascade of more errors. When I tried out some > smilies that I would send to me, I found that there were some doubles > (the kissy ones in the first line) and that some of them didn't seem to > have a correct handle i.e. :handle: Some missed the final >:< at the > end. And when I received those, they wouldn't show up correctly. Yes. >> The AV windows cascaded. I had to close TB! with the Task Manager. > My Bat certainly has been much more experienced in crashing than yours, > every now and then I have some troubles with that. If I restore it from > tray, sometimes TB can't be motivated to go back at work: The freshly > maximized window, although set as active, doesn't react on any of my > clicks then. TB can't be terminated the regular way then and must be > aborted by task manager. This time, however, when fiddling around with > the "insert smiles" functionality, my TB had a heavy hick-up for some > seconds before it finally crashed and closed itself without me having it > stopped. I saw IIRC some alert boxes, too, but all happened much too > quick. Exactly. Lightning fast. >>> BTW: moving the scroll bar in the opening smileys box does not have any >>> visible effect on the icons there: they stay and won't scroll as long as >>> the mouse holds and moves the bar. >> Confirmed. > I agree with you that this feature should be reworked in-depth. Perhaps you could describe its shortcomings in an issue report at Bug Tracker? I would then put a supporting note. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.81.12 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta -inserting smileys
Hi Charlene, Wednesday, July 26, 2006 you let us know -possibly edited- : > Inserting a "smile" caused a heavy malfunction I added a note: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5956 any support is welcome, you may also add your remarks on your detections there. TIA -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.81.12 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta -inserting smileys
Dear Mary, Thursday, July 27, 2006 you let us know -possibly edited- : > I have just encountered a series of AV messages that TB! cannot draw > an image after using the "Insert Smile" dialogue window Thank you for being such an adventurous beta-testing friend. Have you had the opportunity to have a look at the except.log file? In my case, there were dozens of lines of text that all said the same. The beginning of the error log contains some words about -wait, I found it: > GifImage:8 EInvalidOperation Canvas does not allow drawing This was the start of a cascade of more errors. When I tried out some smilies that I would send to me, I found that there were some doubles (the kissy ones in the first line) and that some of them didn't seem to have a correct handle i.e. :handle: Some missed the final >:< at the end. And when I received those, they wouldn't show up correctly. > The AV windows cascaded. I had to close TB! with the Task Manager. My Bat certainly has been much more experienced in crashing than yours, every now and then I have some troubles with that. If I restore it from tray, sometimes TB can't be motivated to go back at work: The freshly maximized window, although set as active, doesn't react on any of my clicks then. TB can't be terminated the regular way then and must be aborted by task manager. This time, however, when fiddling around with the "insert smiles" functionality, my TB had a heavy hick-up for some seconds before it finally crashed and closed itself without me having it stopped. I saw IIRC some alert boxes, too, but all happened much too quick. >> BTW: moving the scroll bar in the opening smileys box does not have any >> visible effect on the icons there: they stay and won't scroll as long as >> the mouse holds and moves the bar. > Confirmed. I agree with you that this feature should be reworked in-depth. -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.81.12 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta -inserting smileys
Hello Mark! On Thursday, July 27, 2006, 7:49 AM, you wrote: MB>> The AV windows cascaded. I had to close TB! with the Task Manager. > Worse here. Didn't see any AV window. It just hung the system and the Task > Manager couldn't help either. Must be the second app that did that since > I use Windows 2000. :-( Bless you!! > Might be in combination with other running programs, but even so... Exactly. Needs to be cleared up before a full release. > Oh well, testing beta's... I never use the feature (inserting smilies). > If I hadn't seen the bug report, I wouldn't have had the problem. Me neither. I simply didn't try the "Insert Smile" button when it first appeared, because I have most of the smiley handles that I like memorized and it's quicker just to type the handle in. But after reading the reports of trouble with it and, with a little time to spend on testing, I decided to check it out. Multiple things are wrong with it. I think the RitLabs team should give the code of this new feature a thorough going-over. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.81.12 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta -inserting smileys
Hello Mary, Thursday, July 27, 2006, 2:03:35 PM, you wrote: MB> The AV windows cascaded. I had to close TB! with the Task Manager. Worse here. Didn't see any AV window. It just hung the system and the Task Manager couldn't help either. Must be the second app that did that since I use Windows 2000. :-( Might be in combination with other running programs, but even so... Oh well, testing beta's... I never use the feature (inserting smilies). If I hadn't seen the bug report, I wouldn't have had the problem. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 3.81.12 Beta MyMacros 1.11a zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 5:52:10) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta -inserting smileys
Hello Roelof! On Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 4:43 PM, you wrote: >>> Inserting a "smile" caused a heavy malfunction > Confirmed. Tried it several times, sometimes I'm getting a repetitive: > --- > The Bat! > --- > Access violation at address 7265736E. Read of address 7265736E. > --- > OK > --- > It's the same AV every time. And sometimes it's going just fine I get the same, but only when using the scroll bar. CF>> To be clear: I clicked on the tab "insert smile" right of the text CF>> formatting symbols. > So did I. And I believe it's not the act of inserting a smiley, but > it's the act of scrolling through the available smileys. Confirmed. But, note that, one time only, so far, I got an Alert box after selecting and clicking on a Smiley image that said something like "Cannot draw image." I can't recall the exact wording now and wasn't able to get a screenshot of the rapidly cascading boxes. I had to close TB! with the Task Manager. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.81.12 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta -inserting smileys
Hello Charlene! On Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 4:26 PM, you wrote: >> Inserting a "smile" caused a heavy malfunction > To be clear: I clicked on the tab "insert smile" right of the text > formatting symbols. I have just encountered a series of AV messages that TB! cannot draw an image after using the "Insert Smile" dialogue window to attempt to choose one Smiley. (My window brings up a set from the PCWize Smiley images in The Bat!/Images/pcwimages.) The AV windows cascaded. I had to close TB! with the Task Manager. > BTW: moving the scroll bar in the opening smileys box does not have any > visible effect on the icons there: they stay and won't scroll as long as > the mouse holds and moves the bar. Confirmed. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.81.12 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta -inserting smileys
> So did I. And I believe it's not the act of inserting a smiley, but > it's the act of scrolling through the available smileys. I've just got it here with .10, so it's not a new problem. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.81.10 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by , MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. You need only two tools: WD-40 and Duct Tape. If it doesn't move and it should, use WD-40. If it moves and shouldn't, use the duct tape. pgpY4zGIk6Zks.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta -inserting smileys
Hello Charlene, Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 10:26:49 PM, you wrote: >> Inserting a "smile" caused a heavy malfunction > To be clear: I clicked on the tab "insert smile" right of the text > formatting symbols. Inserted a smiley with no problem. > BTW: moving the scroll bar in the opening smileys box does not have any > visible effect on the icons there: they stay and won't scroll as long as > the mouse holds and moves the bar. Could scroll without a problem either. -- Best regards, Cristinamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta -inserting smileys
Hallo Charlene, On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 23:26:49 +0200GMT (26-7-2006, 23:26 , where I live), you wrote: >> Inserting a "smile" caused a heavy malfunction Confirmed. Tried it several times, sometimes I'm getting a repetitive: --- The Bat! --- Access violation at address 7265736E. Read of address 7265736E. --- OK --- It's the same AV every time. And sometimes it's going just fine CF> To be clear: I clicked on the tab "insert smile" right of the text CF> formatting symbols. So did I. And I believe it's not the act of inserting a smiley, but it's the act of scrolling through the available smileys. CF> BTW: moving the scroll bar in the opening smileys box does not have any CF> visible effect on the icons there: they stay and won't scroll as long as CF> the mouse holds and moves the bar. Confirmed too. -- Groetjes, Roelof '95 - The number of calls to tech support before you can get it to run http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpMSg8JFzwkN.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta -inserting smileys
Hello Charlene, Thursday, July 27, 2006, 12:26:49 AM, you wrote (possibly edited): >> Inserting a "smile" caused a heavy malfunction The first time I tried it the Bat seemed to stall. After a few seconds I retried it and the smilies selection dialog came up. :bounce-cloud: -- Best regards, Costas Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta -inserting smileys
Hi Charlene Ferrara, Wednesday, July 26, 2006 you let us know -possibly edited- : > Inserting a "smile" caused a heavy malfunction To be clear: I clicked on the tab "insert smile" right of the text formatting symbols. BTW: moving the scroll bar in the opening smileys box does not have any visible effect on the icons there: they stay and won't scroll as long as the mouse holds and moves the bar. -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.81.12 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta -inserting smileys
Dear List members, I had a one-time-issue with this version: Inserting a "smile" caused a heavy malfunction, consisting of several half-drawn error messages that could not be read properly, because TB closed itself within seconds. I noticed that in the background something was going on, the monitor flickered a lot. The second attempt to do so was successful indeed, no further trouble, so I insert my smile here ==> :) Dev. team may want to have an eye on attached except.log. -- Best wishes Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.81.12 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Running 8 accounts POP, 1 IMAP [-] Plugins, ext. Macros, PGP, customisation [+] 3 Virtual Folders, Common Folders, OTFE, adapted View Mode except-excerpt.rar Description: Binary data Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
