Re: Using TAB key to rotate focus
Hello Betas! A lot of Post-Releases und Betas have been published meanwhile, but this small matter is still present: I usually use the TAB key to 'rotate' the focus from the message list to the mail preview and the folder list. A few betas before I recognized that there seems to be a *4th* state now, between the message list and the mail preview. But *where* is the focus at this time? [...] there is still the hidden state between message list and preview pane where the focus disappears [...] The last few betas didn't have this hidden state, but 3.5.26 has it again. So all I wanted to say was: This bug is back. [...] Confirmed. FWIW, it was earlier fixed in 3.5.18.0. -- Best regards, Michael (The Bat! 3.51 (Pro), Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.3, Windows XP Service Pack 2, P4/2.8GHz/512MB) Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Using TAB key to rotate focus
Hello Michael, A lot of Post-Releases und Betas have been published meanwhile, but this small matter is still present: I usually use the TAB key to 'rotate' the focus from the message list to the mail preview and the folder list. A few betas before I recognized that there seems to be a *4th* state now, between the message list and the mail preview. But *where* is the focus at this time? [...] there is still the hidden state between message list and preview pane where the focus disappears [...] The last few betas didn't have this hidden state, but 3.5.26 has it again. So all I wanted to say was: This bug is back. [...] Confirmed. FWIW, it was earlier fixed in 3.5.18.0. The 4th state is when the focus is on the header of the mail. Try it: put the focus there, and press Tab or Shift+Tab. But it is a bug. Is there BT I can support? (Huhh.. I was trying to find a shortcut, that would highlight part of the message header, I pressed Ctrl+Alt+ left arrow... My screen was rotated 90 degress left :))) Some system shortcut to the graphics card driver :)) -- Vili Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Using TAB key to rotate focus
Hello Michael, A lot of Post-Releases und Betas have been published meanwhile, but this small matter is still present: I confirm that. Did you ever open a BT report? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.51 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Using TAB key to rotate focus
Hello MAU! MAU wrote: [...] I confirm that. Did you ever open a BT report? Just a few seconds ago: #0004879 -- Best regards, Michael (The Bat! 3.51 (Pro), Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.3, Windows XP Service Pack 2, P4/2.8GHz/512MB) Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Using TAB key to rotate focus
Hello Vili! Vili wrote: [...] The 4th state is when the focus is on the header of the mail. Try it: put the focus there, and press Tab or Shift+Tab. Sorry ... but I do not understand what you want to tell me ;-). If the focus gets lost in 4th state, not a single key shows any effect (except TAB and SPACE, of course); especially the CONTEXT KEY has no function. So this behaviour seems to be totally useless. It's a pity that this bug has left the planet in 3.5.18 and then came back in 3.5.26. [...] Is there BT I can support? I don't think so, but because MAU also asked for that, I will open one in a few minutes ;-) ... -- Best regards, Michael (The Bat! 3.51 (Pro), Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.3, Windows XP Service Pack 2, P4/2.8GHz/512MB) Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Using TAB key to rotate focus
Hello Michael, Vili wrote: [...] The 4th state is when the focus is on the header of the mail. Try it: put the focus there, and press Tab or Shift+Tab. Sorry ... but I do not understand what you want to tell me ;-). Just to give some explanation about the myst. 4th state. If the focus gets lost in 4th state, not a single key shows any effect (except TAB and SPACE, of course); especially the CONTEXT KEY has no function. So this behaviour seems to be totally useless. Yes, I said so, it is a bug. [...] Is there BT I can support? I don't think so, but because MAU also asked for that, I will open one in a few minutes ;-) ... Ok, I will support. -- Vili Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Using TAB key to rotate focus
On Wednesday, July 6, 2005, 10:05:04 AM, Michael Henke wrote: Sorry ... but I do not understand what you want to tell me ;-). If the focus gets lost in 4th state, not a single key shows any effect (except TAB and SPACE, of course); especially the CONTEXT KEY has no function. So this behaviour seems to be totally useless. Take a look at the quick search toolbar when you don't know where the cursor is. It cycles through there when you are going backwards (shift-tab) at least here. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using The Bat! 3.51 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Using TAB key to rotate focus
Hello Dwight! Dwight A Corrin wrote: Take a look at the quick search toolbar when you don't know where the cursor is. It cycles through there when you are going backwards (shift-tab) at least here. Usually my quick search toolbar is switched off, but *if* it's visible, I get five states instead of four: 1.) message list 2.) quick search bar 3.) *hidden* 4.) mail preview 5.) folder list -- Best regards, Michael (The Bat! 3.51 (Pro), Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.3, Windows XP Service Pack 2, P4/2.8GHz/512MB) Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Using TAB key to rotate focus
Hello Michael, [...] I confirm that. Did you ever open a BT report? Just a few seconds ago: #0004879 Note added. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.51 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Using TAB key to rotate focus
Hello Michael, Wednesday, July 6, 2005, 11:08:10 AM, you wrote: MH Hello Dwight! MH Dwight A Corrin wrote: Take a look at the quick search toolbar when you don't know where the cursor is. It cycles through there when you are going backwards (shift-tab) at least here. MH Usually my quick search toolbar is switched off, but *if* it's visible, MH I get five states instead of four: MH 1.) message list MH 2.) quick search bar MH 3.) *hidden* MH 4.) mail preview MH 5.) folder list heh heh heh I was picking at that nit a while ago and just gave up g Glad to see others have picked up on it and were able to describe it well enough that others were able to figure out what I had not been able to explain very well. -- Best regards, MikeDmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5.36 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Using TAB key to rotate focus
Hello TBBETA! Some weeks ago I wrote (using The Bat! 3.5 Return RC4 (Pro)): I usually use the TAB key to 'rotate' the focus from the message list to the mail preview and the folder list. A few betas before I recognized that there seems to be a *4th* state now, between the message list and the mail preview. But *where* is the focus at this time? It is back in 3.5.26 ... -- Best regards, Michael (The Bat! 3.5.26 (Pro), Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.3, Windows XP Service Pack 2, P4/2.8GHz/512MB) Current beta is 3.5.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Using TAB key to rotate focus
Hello Michael It is back in 3.5.26 ... No it isn't - there is still the hidden state between message list and preview pane where the focus disappears -- Regards Graham -- Notice: This e-mail message, together with any attachments, contains information of Merck Co., Inc. (One Merck Drive, Whitehouse Station, New Jersey, USA 08889), and/or its affiliates (which may be known outside the United States as Merck Frosst, Merck Sharp Dohme or MSD and in Japan, as Banyu) that may be confidential, proprietary copyrighted and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity named on this message. If you are not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete it from your system. -- Current beta is 3.5.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Using TAB key to rotate focus
FG No it isn't - there is still the hidden state between message list FG and preview pane where the focus disappears this issue only appears when message preview is enabled. without there are only 3 states. -- ciao Melanie Current beta is 3.5.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Using TAB key to rotate focus
Hello Melanie FG No it isn't - there is still the hidden state between message list FG and preview pane where the focus disappears this issue only appears when message preview is enabled. without there are only 3 states. .. you mean 2 states. (which is fine) I always run in preview mode, and having 4 states for 3 panes is annoying. -- Regards Graham My lucky color just faded. -- Notice: This e-mail message, together with any attachments, contains information of Merck Co., Inc. (One Merck Drive, Whitehouse Station, New Jersey, USA 08889), and/or its affiliates (which may be known outside the United States as Merck Frosst, Merck Sharp Dohme or MSD and in Japan, as Banyu) that may be confidential, proprietary copyrighted and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity named on this message. If you are not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete it from your system. -- Current beta is 3.5.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Using TAB key to rotate focus
Hello Graham! Graham Foster wrote: It is back in 3.5.26 ... No it isn't - there is still the hidden state between message list and preview pane where the focus disappears Sorry for not being precise ;-): The last few betas didn't have this hidden state, but 3.5.26 has it again. So all I wanted to say was: This bug is back. -- Best regards, Michael (The Bat! 3.5.26 (Pro), Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.3, Windows XP Service Pack 2, P4/2.8GHz/512MB) Current beta is 3.5.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Using TAB key to rotate focus
On Tuesday, June 7, 2005, 8:48:05 AM, Foster, Graham wrote: No it isn't - there is still the hidden state between message list and preview pane where the focus disappears I think the hidden state is actually the search pane on the tool bar. -- Dwight A. Corrin Current beta is 3.5.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Using TAB key to rotate focus
Hello TB-Beta! I usually use the TAB key to 'rotate' the focus from the message list to the mail preview and the folder list. A few betas before I recognized that there seems to be a *4th* state now, between the message list and the mail preview. But *where* is the focus at this time? Probably I've missed something, but the traffic in this list was high during the last weeks ... -- Best regards, Michael (The Bat! 3.5 Return RC4 (Pro), Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.2, Windows XP Service Pack 2, P4/2.8GHz/512MB) Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Using TAB key to rotate focus
Hello Michael, But *where* is the focus at this time? Good question. I can't determine where it is. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC4 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Using TAB key to rotate focus
I think that it's done this for some time. Points to note: If you are using the HTML viewer in the preview window, once the focus has moved to that window, TAB moves the focus to each hyperlink and only move to the next window once all the links have been visited. If the focus is in the message window and you delete the only message in the folder the focus seems to disappear until you use the mouse to magic it back. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. Error: This will end your Windows session. Do you want to play another game? pgpBgJGkVrkgU.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Using TAB key to rotate focus
Friday, May 6, 2005, 11:07:45 AM, you wrote: I think that it's done this for some time. Points to note: If you are using the HTML viewer in the preview window, once the focus has moved to that window, TAB moves the focus to each hyperlink and only move to the next window once all the links have been visited. If the focus is in the message window and you delete the only message in the folder the focus seems to disappear until you use the mouse to magic it back. It seems to focus on the lowest (physically on the page) hyperlink here, ignoring higher ones. -- Best regards, Chris Wilson The Bat 3.5 Return RC4 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build Number 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Using TAB key to rotate focus
Hello Stuart! You wrote: [...] If you are using the HTML viewer in the preview window once the focus has moved to that window, TAB moves the focus to each hyperlink and only move to the next window once all the links have been visited. That's right. And: Same behavior if UTF-8 is used. -- Best regards, Michael (The Bat! 3.5 Return RC4 (Pro), Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.2, Windows XP Service Pack 2, P4/2.8GHz/512MB) Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
