Re: Re: What is up with TB's memory management?
Yes, there are a bunch of exceptions in it. Here's the log in Gist since it's too big for this mailing list: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/ThiefMaster/67ac00439d0dfb4fe46ecce223b5d009/raw/TheBat_Exceptions.log I hope it's useful to one of the TB devs, because at least two crashes a day are extremely annoying... - Adrian > Hello Adrian, > On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 10:26:03 +0200 GMT (08/08/2022, 15:26 +0700 GMT), > Adrian wrote: > [...] >> I'm a very technical person (software dev + working in IT), but I typically >> don't do development on Windows so my Windows-specific debugging skills are >> limited (on Linux I'd just run it in gdb). However, if there is any (hidden) >> setting to make TB generate full stack traces when memory-related errors >> happen, >> I'd be more than happy to share them. If there's no setting and you can >> provide >> me with a "debug build" that has more verbose error information, that'd be >> great >> as well of course. > Check out whether the file exceptions.log will help. > -- > Cheers, > Thomas. > Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) > under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 > > 'Using TBBETA' information: > http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What is up with TB's memory management?
Hello Adrian, On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 10:26:03 +0200 GMT (08/08/2022, 15:26 +0700 GMT), Adrian wrote: [...] > I'm a very technical person (software dev + working in IT), but I typically > don't do development on Windows so my Windows-specific debugging skills are > limited (on Linux I'd just run it in gdb). However, if there is any (hidden) > setting to make TB generate full stack traces when memory-related errors > happen, > I'd be more than happy to share them. If there's no setting and you can > provide > me with a "debug build" that has more verbose error information, that'd be > great > as well of course. Check out whether the file exceptions.log will help. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
What is up with TB's memory management?
Hi, sorry for hijacking this list with what's more of a bug report, but on the bug tracker many things seem to disappear in a black hole and never really get a reply or followup. Feel free to reach out directly to me by email in order to not bother the "beta" list with this. I've been using The Bat for about 15 years now, but a few years ago TB started crashing with memory pretty much daily after using it elsewhere. Basically I run it in the office and at home, connecting to the same servers (all of them IMAP on Dovecot servers). EVERY TIME I come home from the office and vice versa, TB crashed with a memory error - since it's happening on multiple PCs I'm quite sure it's not a hardware issue. Same with running TB on my laptop + one of the other PCs. So I think there may be some race condition related to accessing the same IMAP mailbox from multiple locations becaus when I e.g. delete an email from PC 1, IMAP IDLE will notify the TB running on PC 2 that something changed so it updates that mail (which is great and exactly why people use IMAP!). I'm a very technical person (software dev + working in IT), but I typically don't do development on Windows so my Windows-specific debugging skills are limited (on Linux I'd just run it in gdb). However, if there is any (hidden) setting to make TB generate full stack traces when memory-related errors happen, I'd be more than happy to share them. If there's no setting and you can provide me with a "debug build" that has more verbose error information, that'd be great as well of course. Providing minidumps could be a possibility as well, but I'd be more hesitant there due to the fact that they may still contain IMAP credentials. On a possibly related note, one of my folders (even if I completely empty it on the server and use folder maintenance to clean up or even delete the associated *.TBB IMAP cache file) tends to be VERY slow - TB sometimes takes over a second to view a simple email (it's all GitHub notification emails, so nothing large or otherwise fancy, and they are all available locally so not a server issue either). Cheers Adrian 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A question to system administrators about The Bat! filling free memory with zero bytes
Hello Stuart, Saturday, June 24, 2017, 9:06:25 AM, you wrote: > I run mail server programs in VMs in hosting centers, all on SSD > drives running Windows OS server versions. I doubt almost anyone is > running TB, a (desktop) client program, in VM instances on machines > running on their desks, such as laptops, much less TB client programs > also running in hosted VM server instances. I saw big companies are running all client software for their employees on Virtual Machines (VMs), and the client is just running a thin client computer with a remote desktop. This this is safer, cheaper, easier to manage and easier to deploy than hundreds of standalone workstations. And that thin client computer is cheap and no need to upgrade it - it should be just enough to handle remote desktop connection. I even saw small companies are running vital programs like accounting on VMs hosted on remote colocations - for safety and security. That's why running The Bat! and other client software on VMs is of interest. And VMs like when memory, if unused, is not left as it was, with old data remnants, but cleaned with all zero bytes. That's why I think that my question is relevant. Even if you run The Bat! under a desktop Windows PC - filling memory with zeros may be beneficial. -- Maxim Masiutin Director Ritlabs, SRL Current beta is 7.4.16.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A question to system administrators about The Bat! filling free memory with zero bytes
Hello Stuart, Friday, June 23, 2017, 11:06:25 PM, you wrote: > I really don't understand what changing how TB handles memory on > the client instance will do anything for the memory subsystems in > hosted mail servers, running bare metal or in VMs. I was going to say something similar but I don't run servers so it seemed not relevant. Maybe if there are a bunch of people running The Bat on an application server. All my machine have 16Mb or more so I can't imagine it will make any difference to me. -- Ira Current beta is 7.4.16.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A question to system administrators about The Bat! filling free memory with zero bytes
Hello Maxim, Friday, June 23, 2017, 10:31:00 PM, you wrote: MM> Hello , MM> MM> I have a question to system administrators (who deal with MM> servers) about The Bat! filling free memory with zero bytes. I run mail server programs in VMs in hosting centers, all on SSD drives running Windows OS server versions. I doubt almost anyone is running TB, a (desktop) client program, in VM instances on machines running on their desks, such as laptops, much less TB client programs also running in hosted VM server instances. So, am I crazy, or are you? I really don't understand what changing how TB handles memory on the client instance will do anything for the memory subsystems in hosted mail servers, running bare metal or in VMs. No disrespect intended. Best regards, Stuart Pye --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Current beta is 7.4.16.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
A question to system administrators about The Bat! filling free memory with zero bytes
Hello , I have a question to system administrators (who deal with servers) about The Bat! filling free memory with zero bytes. What do you think if we change The Bat! to intermittently fill with zero bytes the memory, with which The Bat! is working on, but frees in the meanwhile (not actually uses)? So The Bat! will clean memory pages with zero bytes? This may improve performance under Windows, and also under VMWare and other virtual machine environments? For example, VMWare and HyperV calculate hash of memory pages, and, if the contents is the same, mark this page as "shared" inside a virtual machine and between virtual machines on the same host, until the page is modified. It effectively decreases memory consumption. Windows does the same - it handles zero pages differently, treating them as free. We could have the heap manager that would automatically fill memory with zeros when we call FreeMem/ReallocMem. As an alternative option, we could have a function that zeroizes empty memory by demand, i.e. only when this function is explicitly called. Of course, this function has to be thread-safe. The drawback of filling memory with zeros is touching the memory, which might have already been turned into virtual, thus issuing page faults. Besides that, any memory store operations are slow, so our program will be slower, albeit to an unknown extent (maybe negligible). If we manage to fill 4-K pages completely with zeros, the hypervisor or Windows will explicitly mark it as a zero page. But even partial zeroizing may be beneficial, since the hypervisor may compress pages using LZ or similar algorithms to save physical memory. Does anybody have experience on that issue? I have made a question on https://stackoverflow.com/questions/44665446/a-heap-manager-for-c-pascal-that-automatically-fills-freed-memory-with-zero-byte on that matter, but it didn't gain enough attention. -- Maxim Masiutin Director Ritlabs, SRL Current beta is 7.4.16.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Out of memory
Hi Stuart When 5.3.8.3 loads, it uses about 130MB of RAM. When I get an Out of Memory dialog box, which also means TB has stopped accepting mail, the memory used has ballooned to over 1.4GB. See attached screen capture. Is anyone else getting memory growth like this? It has been going on for several betas as well as the stable releases on Ritlabs site. Confirmed TB! now sitting at 242Mb working set and 675Mb virtual. I've gone back to 5.3.8.1 due to the IMAP disconnect problem so haven't run the latest version for long enough for it to grow. It has been much higher. Was also reported by me in 5.3.2.10 in Message-ID: 567559827.20121115201...@parkinch.co.uk I have about 20 IMAP acounts and 3 POP3. P.S. Could someone please inform me how to get a mid reference from TB! or does the previous mid do it? -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.8.1 Current beta is 5.3.8.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Out of memory
I can't confirm on my system -- Rick I hope that we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country. Thomas Jefferson v5.3.8.3 (BETA) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.3.8.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Memory usage - TB vs Thunderbird 17.0
Hello Bob, Friday, December 7, 2012, 12:19:43 AM, you wrote: BR TB only uses 30 MB of memory and Thunderbird uses 144 MB of memory. I consistently see TB using 165MB of RAM to start, but I do have 2 POP3 accounts, 3 IMAP Gmail accounts and 1 IMAP GMX.us account, so maybe that is the starting memory difference. However, I also get Out of memory freezes every 1 or 2 days. At those points, TB is using 1.5GB of RAM. I have to kill the process, then restart TB. So, there is considerable memory growth in the latest MSI and the .1 beta version. Maybe the developers should plug these leaks? Best regards, Stuart mailto:stu...@slicenet.net This message was delivered by MDaemon - http://www.altn.com/MDaemon/ Current beta is 5.3.4.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Memory usage - TB vs Thunderbird 17.0
Title: Re: Memory usage - TB vs Thunderbird 17.0 Hi Ivan, Thursday, December 6, 2012, 10:45:35 PM, you wrote: TB only uses 30 MB of memory and Thunderbird uses 144 MB of memory. Very interesting (even if I don't understand where the difference comes from). Ritlabs is doing something very efficiently! As always, thanks to the Ritlabs team for this excellent work. IP Thunderbird is a multi-layered entity. There's a basic engine with an IP interpreter and a plethora of XUL logic on top of it run by that IP engine. This adds a great deal of flexibility and customizability - at IP the cost of speed and resources. That is helpful. Thank you! -- Take Care, Bob -- I am here to only be of help. I am here to represent the One who sent us. Someday, we'll all realize that this is true for every last one of us. Using The Bat! 5.3.4 Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Current beta is 5.3.2.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Memory usage - TB vs Thunderbird 17.0
Bob Riley schrob am Freitag, 7. Dezember 2012 um 06:19 Zeit: TB only uses 30 MB of memory and Thunderbird uses 144 MB of memory. Yum. One of the main reasons I switched. http://img1.uploadscreenshot.com/images/orig/10/29016522638-orig.png Current beta is 5.3.2.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Memory usage - TB vs Thunderbird 17.0
Hi Everyone, I just checked the memory usage of TB with Thunderbird 17.0 in Windows 8. I have used both for my Gmail IMAP account, and I was amazed at the difference! TB only uses 30 MB of memory and Thunderbird uses 144 MB of memory. Very interesting (even if I don't understand where the difference comes from). Ritlabs is doing something very efficiently! As always, thanks to the Ritlabs team for this excellent work. -- Take care, Bob -- I am here to only be of help. I am here to represent the One who sent us. [Quote from A Course in Miracles] Someday, we'll all realize that this is true for every last one of us. Using The Bat! 5.3.4 Windows 6.2 build 9200 Current beta is 5.3.2.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Memory usage - TB vs Thunderbird 17.0
TB only uses 30 MB of memory and Thunderbird uses 144 MB of memory. Very interesting (even if I don't understand where the difference comes from). Ritlabs is doing something very efficiently! As always, thanks to the Ritlabs team for this excellent work. Thunderbird is a multi-layered entity. There's a basic engine with an interpreter and a plethora of XUL logic on top of it run by that engine. This adds a great deal of flexibility and customizability - at the cost of speed and resources. -- Best regards, Ivanmailto:v...@mail.mipt.ru 5.3.4 on Windows XP Current beta is 5.3.2.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.3.2.10 - Memory usage
Hello Maxim, Tuesday, November 13, 2012, 4:40:49 PM, you wrote: The Bat! 5.3.2.10 (BETA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb53210.rar TB! is sitting at 60Mb working set and 1.9Gb virtual size. Anyone else seeing this? -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.2.10 (BETA) Current beta is 5.3.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.3.2.10 - Memory usage
TB! is sitting at 60Mb working set and 1.9Gb virtual size. Anyone else seeing this? 45,855 Here -- Rick A bore is a man who deprives you of solitude without providing you with company. - Gian Vincenzo Gravina v5.3.2.10 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.3.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.3.2.10 - Memory usage
Tony, Hello Maxim, Tuesday, November 13, 2012, 4:40:49 PM, you wrote: The Bat! 5.3.2.10 (BETA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb53210.rar TB! is sitting at 60Mb working set and 1.9Gb virtual size. Anyone else seeing this? Not confirmed. -- Gleason Current beta is 5.3.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
5.3.2.2 - Memory leak?
Hello TBBETA, I'm seeing huge memory usage by TB! Virtual Memory 1GB, working set 478K Anyone else seeing this? -- Best regards, Tony mailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.2.2 (BETA) with IMAP on Windows XP 5.1.Service Pack 3 Build: 2600 Current beta is 5.3.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! freeze extensive memory usage (Allegro - Items Newsletter)
Hello RS, Friday, July 6, 2012, 10:10:43 AM, you wrote: RF My issue here is: RF - TB! freeze for about 1-1.5min when e-mail is opened for the first RF time, RF - CPU usage jumps to 55-75% ; memory usage jumps from 80MB to 125MB RF for that e-mail, RF - any another opening of an e-mail freezes TB! for about 10-12s, (CPU RF usage 25-30%, Memory: 125MB) RF - thumbnails that were not fetch during the first time are not RF reloaded and empty icon is shown (no matter if you wait or reopen RF message). RF Have anyone using Allegro newsletter had similar experience? I don't know Allegro but I can confirm that this hanging occurs with some emails. I haven't found a pattern yet though. I use system HTML viewer, which in my case is Firefox. It follows the security settings of Internet Explorer, the setting under Preferences says. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 5.1.6.7 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.1.6.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! freeze extensive memory usage (Allegro - Items Newsletter)
I don't know Allegro but I can confirm that this hanging occurs with some emails. I haven't found a pattern yet though. I use system HTML viewer, which in my case is Firefox. It follows the security settings of Internet Explorer, the setting under Preferences says. I get hangs and even crashes due to large animated gifs usually, especially if it is trying to load several at once from an email -- Rick Our task must be to free ourselves by widening the circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty. --Albert Einstein, physicist v5.1.6.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.1.6.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB! freeze extensive memory usage (Allegro - Items Newsletter)
Hi, I'm subscribed to Allegro daily newsletter (it's Polish e-bay). Every day they send an e-mail with offers that could match my search results (links to thumbnails are embedded in e-mail body). My search conditions are quite wide and sometimes a list of items is 600+ positions. My issue here is: - TB! freeze for about 1-1.5min when e-mail is opened for the first time, - CPU usage jumps to 55-75% ; memory usage jumps from 80MB to 125MB for that e-mail, - any another opening of an e-mail freezes TB! for about 10-12s, (CPU usage 25-30%, Memory: 125MB) - thumbnails that were not fetch during the first time are not reloaded and empty icon is shown (no matter if you wait or reopen message). Have anyone using Allegro newsletter had similar experience? TB! response time gives for sure bad impression to the user but some could say that it's too big. Well, if it happens an approach how to handle such files can be changed :) The second matter is not re-fetching missing images (even if message is reopened) - it's something that I would consider as a bug. Such thumbnails should be marked as missing and client should try to get them after a while. MEMORY CONSUMPTION Single JPG thumbnail size is about 3.5-4kB ; so even if we have 1000 thumbnails it would give 4MB ; not sure why 45MB is used to render the e-mail After a switch to another e-mail memory usage is down to 80MB at once. -- Best Regards, RS (FEDARA) The Bat! 5.1.2 Windows 7 x64 Professional (7601 Service Pack 1) POP3 accounts (x5) Friday, July 6, 2012 (10:37 ; GMT+8) Current beta is 5.1.6.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Errors Out of memory and Access violation at address 776D9C5F in module 'ntdll.dll'
Hello all, Tuesday, December 6, 2011, Maxim Masiutin wrote: MM I got this error some minutes after start of 5.0.26.16 and OS was running MM 15 minutes, there was no other app started and I did not got this ever in MM 5.0.26.x builds. I've contacted Vitaly Sidorov from AntiSpamSniper and we will be able to resolve the issue. thank You -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 5.0.26.18 (ALPHA) under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.3.1.1 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.40 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.0.26.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Errors Out of memory and Access violation at address 776D9C5F in module 'ntdll.dll'
martes, 6 dic 2011 at 10:50, it seems you wrote: Are you using the new version of the AntiSpamSniper? It is known to make error in the place that you have referred. If the users install previous version of AntiSpamSniper, there will be no error. I'm using 3.3.1.1 of AntiSpamSniper as you could see on my signature and here it's all ok. -- /\/ Using The Bat! 5.0.26.17 (ALPHA) Professional OTFE with iKey1000 / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 3) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: AntiSpamSniper 3.3.1.1 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Spanish Translator of The Bat! Current beta is 5.0.26.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Errors Out of memory and Access violation at address 776D9C5F in module 'ntdll.dll'
Hello Marek, Are you using the new version of the AntiSpamSniper? It is known to make error in the place that you have referred. If the users install previous version of AntiSpamSniper, there will be no error. -- Best regards, Maximmailto:m...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 5.0.26.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Errors Out of memory and Access violation at address 776D9C5F in module 'ntdll.dll'
Hello Marek, Tuesday, December 6, 2011, 12:17:12 AM, you wrote: MM I got this error some minutes after start of 5.0.26.16 and OS was running MM 15 minutes, there was no other app started and I did not got this ever in MM 5.0.26.x builds. I've contacted Vitaly Sidorov from AntiSpamSniper and we will be able to resolve the issue. -- Best regards, Maximmailto:m...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 5.0.26.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Errors Out of memory and Access violation at address 776D9C5F in module 'ntdll.dll'
Hello, I got this error some minutes after start of 5.0.26.16 and OS was running 15 minutes, there was no other app started and I did not got this ever in 5.0.26.x builds. I have some problem with Wifi connection, so maybe TB is trying to connect and he can't... Date: 05 Dec 2011 21:37:34 OS: Windows 7 Service Pack 1 build 7601 PhysMemFreeTotal: 1610/2047 MB VirtMemFreeTotal: 1847/2047 MB Address: 0046B121 ClassName: EOutOfMemory Message: Out of memory IsOSException: 0 Modules: 0040 20111205181439 K:\The Bat!\thebat.exe Stack: 0046B121 [0040] 0046B11C [0040] 0040313E [0040] 0046B11C [0040] 00A19FA7 [0040] 00A1A04E [0040] 00A19CF5 [0040] 00C84033 [0040] 00C882C2 [0040] 00C71B45 [0040] 00C87894 [0040] 004689A0 [0040] 00C7EE4E [0040] 00C79ECD [0040] 00C79F06 [0040] 00C7A15E [0040] 00CB5D75 [0040] 00CBB45E [0040] 00CD4374 [0040] Date: 05 Dec 2011 21:41:35 OS: Windows 7 Service Pack 1 build 7601 PhysMemFreeTotal: 1624/2047 MB VirtMemFreeTotal: 1823/2047 MB Address: 776D9C5F ClassName: EAccessViolation Message: Access violation at address 776D9C5F in module 'ntdll.dll'. Read of address 0A89B004 IsOSException: 1 Modules: 7768 20101120120502 C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll 0040 20111205181439 K:\The Bat!\thebat.exe Stack: 776D9C5F [7768] 776C71B7 [7768] 776C7186 [7768] 7769F96A [7768] 776C7012 [7768] 00406386 [0040] 008E2894 [0040] 00C84033 [0040] 776D2FE2 [7768] 00C882C2 [0040] 00C71B45 [0040] 00C87894 [0040] 004689A0 [0040] 776D56F1 [7768] 00C7EE4E [0040] 00C79ECD [0040] 00C79F06 [0040] 00C7A15E [0040] 00CB5D75 [0040] 00CBB45E [0040] 00CD4374 [0040] 776E37F3 [7768] 776E37C3 [7768] -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 5.0.26.16 (ALPHA) under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.3.1.1 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.4 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.0.26.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
5.0.18 - Huge memory usage
Hello Tbbeta, TB 5.0.18 now sitting at 1.1 Gb working set and 1.2 Gb virtual memory. Virtual folders don't update and filtering is very hit and miss. :-( -- Best regards, Tony mailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.18 Current beta is 5.0.18.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.18 - Huge memory usage
Hello Tony, TH TB 5.0.18 now sitting at 1.1 Gb working set and 1.2 Gb virtual memory. I wrote something about big memory usage here: 796946612.20110623171...@gmx.net In brief: It seems to be related to virtual folders, whose advanced filter conditions involve filtering based on the message text. Do you have some of those? Best regards, mse -- Using The Bat! v5.0.18.1 (BETA) with German language file [4.2.x_de – Rev. 2010-02-01] Operating system: Windows XP 5.1.2600 with Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.18.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.18 - Huge memory usage
Hello mse, In brief: It seems to be related to virtual folders, whose advanced filter conditions involve filtering based on the message text. Do you have some of those? Yes, I do. 6 to be precise. All based on messages that have been prefiltered to folders other than the Inbox. The VF's are then a subset of the target folder and based on a number of conditions in the text and subject. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.18 Current beta is 5.0.18.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Big memory usage is related to VF filter conditions
Hello all, I had mentioned a big memory usage of The Bat already: 361393468.20110620114...@gmx.net 1693299261.20110221122...@gmx.net I did further tests and narrowed it down to advanced filter conditions in virtual folders. I tried once more tracking New-Version-Notifications as Stefan has described here: 366075956.20110602141...@thebat.net These advanced filter conditions resulted in a very high memory usage (see here: 361393468.20110620114...@gmx.net) When I only use the first two filter criteria (based on Sender and Subject) the memory usage is normal. When I use the last three criteria (based on the message text) I observe an abnormal high memory usage. So, from my (IT-enthusiast-but-non-professional) POV this indicates a serious problem with filtering based on the mailtext. Best regards, mse -- Using The Bat! v5.0.14.2 with German language file [4.2.x_de – Rev. 2010-02-01] Operating system: Windows XP 5.1.2600 with Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Big memory usage in 5.0.14
Hello Marek, MM Hello, MM I observe strange lagging in interface, mainly in Microed when writing, now MM have I checked taskmanager and TB used 365M minute ago and now decreased to MM 165M. MM As I can say, this lagging happened in 5.0.12.16 already. I cannot confirm the behavior you described. Sorry. But a while back I reported about a big memory consumption that was related with the FLB-file of one specific account: 1693299261.20110221122...@gmx.net This behavior is now back. It's the same file in the same account; I tested again this morning. On my machine (XP SP3) The Bat uses 930 MB of RAM which is quite a lot concerning I only have one GB of RAM. Attached here you see a screenshot of my taskmanager. Before starting The Bat (baseline) there was 1,12 GB memory used, the second highest plateau is at 1,84 GB, the highest plateau at 2,05 GB. After closing The Bat, the line drops again to 1,12 GB. I thought I had this problem solved; see the thread from February this year. I can't exactly point to a specific date when this issue has reappeared, but the key is the FLB-file of one account (not the one in MAIL-folder, the one in the account-subfolder). If you want the FLB for analysis, let me know. Best regards, mse -- Using The Bat! v5.0.14 with German language file [4.2.x_de – Rev. 2010-02-01] Operating system: Windows XP 5.1.2600 with Service Pack 3attachment: 2011-06-20_11-15_The Bat_memory consumption.png Current beta is 5.0.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Big memory usage in 5.0.14
Hello, I observe strange lagging in interface, mainly in Microed when writing, now have I checked taskmanager and TB used 365M minute ago and now decreased to 165M. As I can say, this lagging happened in 5.0.12.16 already. -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 5.0.14 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.6.4 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.4 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.0.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Big memory usage in 5.0.14
Hello, I observe strange lagging in interface, mainly in Microed when writing, now have I checked taskmanager and TB used 365M minute ago and now decreased to 165M. As I can say, this lagging happened in 5.0.12.16 already. I can confirm that. There is also a lag when filtering -- Rick Necrophiliacs need love too! v5.0.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.0.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Memory leaks when running the maintenance center
--- Application Error --- Exception ECriticalSectionsLeak in module tbmapi.dll at 000116F5. Resource leak: 2 instance(s) of TBatCriticalSection left Caller addresses listed below: 082E4309 082E431A. --- OK --- -- Rick I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. Albert Einstein v5.0.9.2 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 thebat_Exceptions.log Description: Binary data Current beta is 5.0.9.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Memory Leaks when running maintenance center
--- Application Error --- Exception ECriticalSectionsLeak in module tbmapi.dll at 000116F5. Resource leak: 2 instance(s) of TBatCriticalSection left Caller addresses listed below: 06104309 0610431A. v5.0.8.1 (BETA) HOME/Rick 4/18/2011 10:42:50 PM.031 POP:DoStoreMsg EAccessViolation Access violation at address 00AAC7F9 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 004C --- OK --- Date: 18 Apr 2011 22:42:50 OS: Windows XP Service Pack 3 build 2600 PhysMemFreeTotal: 1066/2039 MB VirtMemFreeTotal: 1730/2047 MB Address: 00AAC7F9 ClassName: EAccessViolation Message: Access violation at address 00AAC7F9 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 004C IsOSException: 1 Modules: 0040 20110417173323 C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe Stack: 00AAC7F9 [0040] 005C0047 [0040] 00AAD68F [0040] 00AAD155 [0040] 00BB3706 [0040] 00AADD73 [0040] 00AADEF1 [0040] 00AA8BBF [0040] 00AC884D [0040] 00B2F178 [0040] 00B2F72D [0040] 00405C38 [0040] 00473806 [0040] 00405ADC [0040] -- Rick Dear Boyfriend, I can make your girlfriend scream louder than you can. Sincerely, Spiders v5.0.8.1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Memory Leak when running Maintenance Center
I have had this error twice today, once when shutting down and just now when running the maintenance center. There are no log entries --- Application Error --- Exception ECriticalSectionsLeak in module tbmapi.dll at 000116F5. Resource leak: 2 instance(s) of TBatCriticalSection left Caller addresses listed below: 03C24309 03C2431A. --- OK --- -- Rick Necrophiliacs need love too! v5.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.6.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
5.0.0.148 Out of Memory and Invalid pointer when exiting
I received these 2 errors and had to kill TB with the task manager Date: 12 Mar 2011 22:56:01 OS: Windows XP Service Pack 3 build 2600 PhysMemFreeTotal: 952/2039 MB VirtMemFreeTotal: 1243/2047 MB Address: 00407557 ClassName: EOutOfMemory Message: Out of memory IsOSException: 0 Modules: 0040 20110310225307 C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe Stack: 00407557 [0040] 00407552 [0040] 0040313E [0040] 00407552 [0040] 006EED5A [0040] 00403044 [0040] 00407629 [0040] 006EEE67 [0040] 00404F9E [0040] 006EEDF6 [0040] 006EED5A [0040] 006EECE9 [0040] 006F41BA [0040] 00404BF0 [0040] 006F1FF6 [0040] 00404BF0 [0040] 007CDA94 [0040] 007D472C [0040] 00404BF0 [0040] 00412704 [0040] 00A9D4D1 [0040] 00558131 [0040] 00557F4A [0040] 00404FFD [0040] 00557F5A [0040] 00404F9E [0040] 00404BF0 [0040] 00448220 [0040] 00A6CEE8 [0040] 00558B7F [0040] 0055D725 [0040] 0055C6C0 [0040] 0057B1EF [0040] 0045951C [0040] 004595F7 [0040] 00A79BD1 [0040] 00407E38 [0040] 0057F47E [0040] 00559669 [0040] 0057EA50 [0040] 00474FB4 [0040] 0057603E [0040] 005619F1 [0040] 00561A2A [0040] 00561C82 [0040] 00C91221 [0040] 00C968D6 [0040] 00C9D1D0 [0040] Date: 12 Mar 2011 22:56:06 OS: Windows XP Service Pack 3 build 2600 PhysMemFreeTotal: 953/2039 MB VirtMemFreeTotal: 1243/2047 MB Address: 00404BAD ClassName: EInvalidPointer Message: Invalid pointer operation IsOSException: 0 Modules: 0040 20110310225307 C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe Stack: 00404BAD [0040] 00404BA8 [0040] 0040313E [0040] 00404BA8 [0040] 00404F9E [0040] 00489CFA [0040] 00404BF0 [0040] 007D4720 [0040] 0057CBD5 [0040] 00556F38 [0040] 00558035 [0040] 00558050 [0040] 00404BF0 [0040] 00448220 [0040] 00A6CEE8 [0040] 00558B7F [0040] 0055D725 [0040] 0055C6C0 [0040] 0057B1EF [0040] 0045951C [0040] 004595F7 [0040] 00A79BD1 [0040] 00407E38 [0040] 0057F47E [0040] 00559669 [0040] 0057EA50 [0040] 00474FB4 [0040] 0057603E [0040] 005619F1 [0040] 00561A2A [0040] 00561C82 [0040] 00C91221 [0040] 00C968D6 [0040] 00C9D1D0 [0040] -- Rick Freedom is what you do with what's been done to you.-Jean-Paul Sartre v5.0.0.148 BETA on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.0.148 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OTFE version stays in memory when password is canceled!
miércoles, 23 feb 2011 at 09:54, it seems you wrote: At startup it asks for the user PIN. If I cancel this request, the dialog window disappears as expected, but 'thebat.exe' stays in memory, consuming about 7.144 KB of memory. Confirmed here. -- /\/ Using The Bat! 5.0.0.142 BETA Professional OTFE with iKey1000 / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 3) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: AntiSpamSniper 3.2.6.4 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Spanish Translator of The Bat! Current beta is 5.0.0.143 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.141 - Massive amount of memory used
Hello Tony, Monday, February 21, 2011, 11:45:10 AM, you wrote: TH TB is using over 1Gb of memory! Is there a leak. I solved this problem just yesterday (True story!). TB on my machine used roundabout 750 MB of memory; my mail database has about 550 MB. I did some tests and narrowed it down to the two FLB-files (.FLB and .~FLB) in one specific account. Deleting these two, letting them be recreated by The Bat and recreating virtual folders and folder templates manually afterwards (lucky me, there weren't that much) solved the problem. Now I'm back to about 40 MB of TB's memory consumption. Best regard and good luck, mse -- Using The Bat! v5.0.0.141 BETA with German language file [4.2.x_de – Rev. 2010-02-01] Operating system: Windows XP 5.1.2600 with Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.0.141 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.141 - Massive amount of memory used
Hello mse, Monday, February 21, 2011, 11:27:46 AM, you wrote: Hello Tony, Monday, February 21, 2011, 11:45:10 AM, you wrote: TH TB is using over 1Gb of memory! Is there a leak. I solved this problem just yesterday (True story!). TB on my machine used roundabout 750 MB of memory; my mail database has about 550 MB. I did some tests and narrowed it down to the two FLB-files (.FLB and .~FLB) in one specific account. Deleting these two, letting them be recreated by The Bat and recreating virtual folders and folder templates manually afterwards (lucky me, there weren't that much) solved the problem. Now I'm back to about 40 MB of TB's memory consumption. Best regard and good luck, mse I have a number of accounts and each has a .FLB file of around 9kb to 256kb. Were yours this size or bigger than this? I'd rather not recreate my virtual folders as it has taken quite a while to get the filtering just right. 40Mb sounds about right. Outlook uses this amount but it seems TB still has a long way to go. :-( -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.0.141 BETA Current beta is 5.0.0.141 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.141 - Massive amount of memory used
Hello Tony, Monday, February 21, 2011, 1:15:29 PM, you wrote: TH I have a number of accounts and each has a .FLB file of around 9kb to TH 256kb. Were yours this size or bigger than this? The file that caused the issue had 148 KB, after the procedure I described is has now 27 KB. TH I'd rather not recreate my virtual folders as it has taken quite a TH while to get the filtering just right. I perfectly understand this. In my case - as I said - the work to recreate everything saved in this file wasn't that much, so I decided for that alternative. Nevertheless I have no idea what actually caused that large memory consumption. With the new FLB I recreated VFs with filters, folder templates and I attached color groups to messages just the way it was before. It has to be a specific v5-issue, since I cross-checked with 4.2.36.4 with which everything was fine. It could be related to the fact that my FLB was created when I started using The Bat with v4.0.something. Since then with every update and every new v5-beta the FLB remained the same but has been modified by many different versions. Best regards, mse -- Using The Bat! v5.0.0.141 BETA with German language file [4.2.x_de – Rev. 2010-02-01] Operating system: Windows XP 5.1.2600 with Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.0.141 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.141 - Massive amount of memory used
Hello mse, Monday, February 21, 2011, 12:39:01 PM, you wrote: Hello Tony, Monday, February 21, 2011, 1:15:29 PM, you wrote: TH I have a number of accounts and each has a .FLB file of around 9kb to TH 256kb. Were yours this size or bigger than this? The file that caused the issue had 148 KB, after the procedure I described is has now 27 KB. TH I'd rather not recreate my virtual folders as it has taken quite a TH while to get the filtering just right. I perfectly understand this. In my case - as I said - the work to recreate everything saved in this file wasn't that much, so I decided for that alternative. Nevertheless I have no idea what actually caused that large memory consumption. With the new FLB I recreated VFs with filters, folder templates and I attached color groups to messages just the way it was before. It has to be a specific v5-issue, since I cross-checked with 4.2.36.4 with which everything was fine. It could be related to the fact that my FLB was created when I started using The Bat with v4.0.something. Since then with every update and every new v5-beta the FLB remained the same but has been modified by many different versions. Best regards, mse I've just tried removing the FLB file. Strewth! You loose virtually all customization. The whole folder tree including virtual folders went missing. I have many filters set up in the sorting office, too. Too much to lose for me -- although I'll probably have another go sometime as 1Gb is just too much on my laptop with only 512Mb. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.0.141 BETA Current beta is 5.0.0.141 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.141 - Massive amount of memory used
Hello Tony, I've just tried removing the FLB file. Strewth! You loose virtually all customization. The whole folder tree including virtual folders went missing. I have many filters set up in the sorting office, too. When I remember correctly, I only lost VFs; real folders could be restored by selecting the account in The Bat and pressing Ctrl + Shift + Alt + L. That should bring the real folders back. I had no problems with filters. They are stored in account.SRB. Nothing was wrong there. Best regards, mse -- Using The Bat! v5.0.0.141 BETA with German language file [4.2.x_de – Rev. 2010-02-01] Operating system: Windows XP 5.1.2600 with Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.0.141 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.141 - Massive amount of memory used
Hello mse, Monday, February 21, 2011, 12:39:01 PM, you wrote: Hello Tony, Monday, February 21, 2011, 1:15:29 PM, you wrote: TH I have a number of accounts and each has a .FLB file of around 9kb to TH 256kb. Were yours this size or bigger than this? The file that caused the issue had 148 KB, after the procedure I described is has now 27 KB. TH I'd rather not recreate my virtual folders as it has taken quite a TH while to get the filtering just right. I perfectly understand this. In my case - as I said - the work to recreate everything saved in this file wasn't that much, so I decided for that alternative. Nevertheless I have no idea what actually caused that large memory consumption. With the new FLB I recreated VFs with filters, folder templates and I attached color groups to messages just the way it was before. It has to be a specific v5-issue, since I cross-checked with 4.2.36.4 with which everything was fine. It could be related to the fact that my FLB was created when I started using The Bat with v4.0.something. Since then with every update and every new v5-beta the FLB remained the same but has been modified by many different versions. Best regards, mse One more thought: Has recreating the virtual folders made them work again? -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.0.141 BETA Current beta is 5.0.0.141 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 5.0.0.141 - Massive amount of memory used
Hello all, Monday, February 21, 2011, Tony Hoare wrote: I've just tried removing the FLB file. Strewth! You loose virtually all customization. The whole folder tree including virtual folders went missing. I have many filters set up in the sorting office, too. Too much to lose for me -- although I'll probably have another go sometime as 1Gb is just too much on my laptop with only 512Mb. there are .FLB and .~FLB files, second one is backup file. They are placed in accounts (account structure) and in MAIL folder (common folders structure). Which FLB did You deleted? If You have not backup, do You have ~FLB ? -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 5.0.0.141 BETA under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7600 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.6.4 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.40 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.0.0.141 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.141 - Massive amount of memory used
Hello Marek, Monday, February 21, 2011, 1:49:04 PM, you wrote: Hello all, Monday, February 21, 2011, Tony Hoare wrote: I've just tried removing the FLB file. Strewth! You loose virtually all customization. The whole folder tree including virtual folders went missing. I have many filters set up in the sorting office, too. Too much to lose for me -- although I'll probably have another go sometime as 1Gb is just too much on my laptop with only 512Mb. there are .FLB and .~FLB files, second one is backup file. They are placed in accounts (account structure) and in MAIL folder (common folders structure). Which FLB did You deleted? If You have not backup, do You have ~FLB ? I just renamed it, saw some of the effects, panicked and put it back. So everything's as it was. Thanks for the tip, though. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.0.141 BETA Current beta is 5.0.0.141 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.141 - Massive amount of memory used
Hello Tony, One more thought: Has recreating the virtual folders made them work again? They have been recreated from scratch; so: Yes. Best regards, mse -- Using The Bat! v5.0.0.141 BETA with German language file [4.2.x_de – Rev. 2010-02-01] Operating system: Windows XP 5.1.2600 with Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.0.141 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.141 - Massive amount of memory used
Hello Marek, sorry, that took a while... there are .FLB and .~FLB files, second one is backup file. They are placed in accounts (account structure) and in MAIL folder (common folders structure). Which FLB did You deleted? If You have not backup, do You have ~FLB ? I deleted the .FLB and the .~FLB of one account (in account structure). The ones in MAIL folder are still the same. The two files in account substructure had the same size. I now have the new FLB and ~FLB created yesterday and the two old ones as backup. Best regards, mse -- Using The Bat! v5.0.0.141 BETA with German language file [4.2.x_de – Rev. 2010-02-01] Operating system: Windows XP 5.1.2600 with Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.0.141 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
5.0.0.125 - Large Memory Usage
Hello TBBETA, This version uses at least twice the memory of v 4.2.40 5.0.0.125 479,712K memory and 586,224K virtual 4.2.40 40,900K memory and 133,262K virtual Can anyone confirm? -- Best regards, Tony mailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.0.125 BETA Current beta is 5.0.0.125 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat does not leave memory when closing
This has happened several times now with this build The Bat appears to close normally and successfully. I attempt to reopen it and I get the following error. Using task manager I find the Bat still running and have to kill it manually. Anyone else? --- The Bat! --- PostMessage to NULL handle, Msg = 3021, wParam = 0, lParam = 0 --- OK --- -- Rick Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today. - James Dean v4.2.23 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.23.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat does not leave memory when closing
Hello all, Wednesday, January 27, 2010, Rick wrote: This has happened several times now with this build The Bat appears to close normally and successfully. I attempt to reopen it and I get the following error. Using task manager I find the Bat still running and have to kill it manually. Anyone else? yes, this happens when You start TB and there is already thebat.exe process running, reported in https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7843 -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.2.23 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.2.7 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.40 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 4.2.23.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat does not leave memory when closing
[Reply to: »Rick« · 2010-01-27 · 17:54 h (CET)]
Moin, Rick!
This has happened several times now with this build The Bat appears
to close normally and successfully. I attempt to reopen it and I get
the following error. Using task manager I find the Bat still running
and have to kill it manually. Anyone else?
Yes and no:
I noticed that the progress bar at shutdown of The Bat! (Win7)
disappered after 10 to 40 % of progress, but in the taskmanager the
process stayed for several seconds. I assume that it is the time from
x% to 100%.
Under WinXP the progress bar is visible up to 100%, but the process
stays in memory for several seconds, too.
But I do not have to kill the process …
Will you file a bug-report?
Cheers!
VA
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Re: The Bat does not leave memory when closing
Hello all, Wednesday, January 27, 2010, Rick wrote: This has happened several times now with this build The Bat appears to close normally and successfully. I attempt to reopen it and I get the following error. Using task manager I find the Bat still running and have to kill it manually. Anyone else? yes, this happens when You start TB and there is already thebat.exe process running, reported in https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7843 Thanks - I added a note -- Rick The fragrance always stays in the hand that gives the rose. - Hada Bejar v4.2.23 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.24.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat does not leave memory when closing
[Reply to: »Rick« · 2010-01-27 · 17:54 h (CET)] Moin, Rick! This has happened several times now with this build The Bat appears to close normally and successfully. I attempt to reopen it and I get the following error. Using task manager I find the Bat still running and have to kill it manually. Anyone else? Yes and no: I noticed that the progress bar at shutdown of The Bat! (Win7) disappered after 10 to 40 % of progress, but in the taskmanager the process stayed for several seconds. I assume that it is the time from x% to 100%. Under WinXP the progress bar is visible up to 100%, but the process stays in memory for several seconds, too. But I do not have to kill the process … Will you file a bug-report? Marek posted a link - this has already been reported :) https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7843 -- Rick Not only is the universe stranger than we imagine, it is stranger than we can imagine. - Sir Arthur Eddington v4.2.23 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.24.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Memory leak?
So, as I wrote earlier, my VM runs up when reply to a mail. I managed to track down to the Reply template. So, if my reply template is empty, %BLANK, replying a mail will not really increase the VM size. BUT: if I have a simple %QUOTES %CURSOR Vili reply template, then replying to a 3-line mail increases my VM to like 65 MB. If I reply to a longer one (6 lines), it is 69 MB. AND, it never goes back to the original 3x MB. It just increases and increases... Confirmation, idea to fix? Maybe some component they make up runtime is not destroyed/freed when they close the editor window? -- Vili Current beta is 4.1.11.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Memory leaks, 3.
I made some additional research: what need a lot of the memory is the spell checker. If you dont have spell checkers, when you open the first mail to write, the memory does not jump. If you do have spell checkers, they will -of course- loaded into the memory and stays there. I must have many selected on my other machine so my VM size jumps to 130 MB or so, on this PC it is only 70 MB. I have to check if the SSCE or the Hunspell or the CSAPI is the most memory consuming. I think, it is not a memory leak, it is just the way TB works. However, I have to test, why Voyager works differently... Anyway, also another observation: if you open up 10 mail editor window (Ctrl+N) and close them (Esc), the memory usage increases. Do it repetatively, and the free mem just shrinking and shrinking... It is obviously a memory leak that should be fixed. It seems like 12 kB/mail is the leak. Another memory leak: hit Ctrl+Shift+Q, Quick Templates. Then close the window. Do it many times. Memory usage is increasing with all replicates. Memory leak... Another memory leak: Tabs in the mail list. I have the All, Unread, and 3 others based on View modes. If I click on them randomly, waiting 1-2 sec, the memory consumption increasing... Not that much, but there is a leak here, too. It seems, that the mem. usage goes up when I click back to the All tab... If you dont see mem. increase, just click around more... Another 4k/repetition leak: SmartBat. F6, wait a sec, Esc, mem. usages is up by 4 kB. And this little leaks adds up big. I am pretty sure, more could be found... Also: number of threads. At first, I have 27. Open the 10 mail and close them, they jump to 35. Download the mails from an account, increases it with one, one per account. I dont know, why threads are not terminated... Maybe there is an optimization reason. So, I think, before any additional work, Ritlabs should go thru the code and CLEAN IT, looking for memory leaks... -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Memory leak, 2. (WAS Video Issue?)
Kertész Vilmos wrote on 19/04/2008 at 23:26:50 +1100 subject Memory leak, 2. (WAS Video Issue?) : Ok, I found the cause of the HUGE VM size and I think the slowdowns: - start TB. It is like 50 MB VM at me. - open the Mail Editor to write a mail The size of the VM shoots up to 125 MB... It is not lowered when I send the mail or close the mail editor. Isnt it a little too much increase? Also, I tested it with v4 Voyager, there is NO significant VM size increase when opening the Mail Editor window. I use MicroEd in both. Confirmation? I have no significant increase here. 87,3 to 89,4 MB -- Sincerely Hendrik Oesterlin - email [EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat! 4.0.20.4 - Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.4 Extended Macro Plugin 1.1.9.0 - Windows 2000 ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de Current beta is 4.0.20.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Memory leak (WAS Video Issue?)
Hello Rick, I am noticing an issue that is happening only in The Bat I keep the Bat open all day as the day progresses (after quite a while) the bat will slow down The reason it that TB eats away the Virtual Memory. Sometimes, the VM goes up to 150 MB very soon at me, I did not find the cause yet. BUT: monitor the VM in the Task Manager, and open/close an email that has online images in it. You may see that the size of the VM increases. Not that much, but there is a memory leak. Also, at some mail with online content, I dont see VM increase. We should test which HTML mails causing VM leak and which not... -- Vili The Bat 4.0.20.2 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Memory leak, 2. (WAS Video Issue?)
Ok, I found the cause of the HUGE VM size and I think the slowdowns: - start TB. It is like 50 MB VM at me. - open the Mail Editor to write a mail The size of the VM shoots up to 125 MB... It is not lowered when I send the mail or close the mail editor. Isnt it a little too much increase? Also, I tested it with v4 Voyager, there is NO significant VM size increase when opening the Mail Editor window. I use MicroEd in both. Confirmation? -- Vili The Bat 4.0.20.2 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Memory leak, 2. (WAS Video Issue?)
Ok, I found the cause of the HUGE VM size and I think the slowdowns: - start TB. It is like 50 MB VM at me. - open the Mail Editor to write a mail The size of the VM shoots up to 125 MB... It is not lowered when I send the mail or close the mail editor. Isnt it a little too much increase? Also, I tested it with v4 Voyager, there is NO significant VM size increase when opening the Mail Editor window. I use MicroEd in both. Confirmation? I am not seeing the memory jump as you are but it is definitely related to using the mail editor (I am also using microed) i.e. a reply, new message etc. -- Rick Are we in the Post-Bush era yet? v4.0.20.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Memory leak, 2. (WAS Video Issue?)
Hello Rick, Ok, I found the cause of the HUGE VM size and I think the slowdowns: - start TB. It is like 50 MB VM at me. - open the Mail Editor to write a mail The size of the VM shoots up to 125 MB... It is not lowered when I send the mail or close the mail editor. Isnt it a little too much increase? Also, I tested it with v4 Voyager, there is NO significant VM size increase when opening the Mail Editor window. I use MicroEd in both. Confirmation? I am not seeing the memory jump as you are but it is definitely related to using the mail editor (I am also using microed) i.e. a reply, new message etc. Check the size of the _Virtual Memory_. But I have to admit, the _memory_ usage also jump to lik 120 MB... It is independent from the account used. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.20.2 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: memory leak
[Reply to: »Jan Rifkinson« · 2008-03-14 · 21:14 h (CET)] Moin, Jan! Has anyone noted a memory leak in the current betas? Trying to track something down. Quite the contrary – v4.0.x is much better than the v3.99.x in this point. At the moment (running some hours) 15MB RAM/61MB virtual Memory, minimized 3MB/61MB. HTH Cheers! VA - -- QA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] — [2008-03-14] Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! Using The Bat! 4.0.18 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 2. »A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.« – Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »Mostly Harmless« Current beta is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: memory leak
On Friday, March 14, 2008, 20:46:35, Volker Ahrendt wrote: At the moment (running some hours) 15MB RAM/61MB virtual Memory, minimized 3MB/61MB. Hint: when a program is minimised it doesn't use any less memory, Windows only swaps most of it's working set out to swap file. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ [The Bat! v4.0.18 on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5.2.3790.Service Pack 2] If God had intended us to go around naked, He would have made us that way. -- Olum's Observation (and see Martha's Maxim and Farrow's Finding) Current beta is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Out of Memory (was: The purpose of Address Search)
Guten Tag Mark Partous, am Sonntag, 6. Januar 2008 um 23:52 schrieben Sie: RG It SHOULD show all emails from that person (if there are any) on RG the upper right pane just like the contents of folders do. I LOOKS RG like you may have selected someone who has no email in your database RG (?) I doesn't matter who I choose, or how many messages from the person there are: in no case there are any messages visible in the upper right pane. :-( I played around with this and got Messages displayed, but after deleting and adding several Adresses and copying another Adress from Adressbook and inserting it to History i got an Out of Memory. http://www.de2all.de/thebat/Out-of-Memory.png Taskmanager: http://www.de2all.de/thebat/Out-of-Memory1.png -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Memory Leak
Hello Mark, Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 8:50:34 AM, you wrote: Hello Ethan, Sunday, November 25, 2007, 3:47:23 PM, you wrote: EJM Can anyone verify this problem? I can't look for the reason, I can only confirm that this .25 version also uses more memory than (seems) necessary and predecessors did. Thanks for your note on the memory leak. I'll wait for version 4.0 to see if it addresses memory use. Jerry -- Best regards, Ethanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Memory Leak
Hello Ethan, Sunday, November 25, 2007, 3:47:23 PM, you wrote: EJM Can anyone verify this problem? I can't look for the reason, I can only confirm that this .25 version also uses more memory than (seems) necessary and predecessors did. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 3.99.25 MyMacros 1.11a zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 20:38:44) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Memory Leak
Hello Ethan, Sunday, November 25, 2007, 8:47:23 AM, you scribbled: EJM Sunday, November 25, 2007 EJM I continue to experience some sort of memory leak with the current EJM official version of The Bat. After about half of a day of use, it EJM moves from 57, 232 K to just under 180, 000K. Even when I minimize the EJM program, it still continues to escalate. EJM Can anyone verify this problem? By the way, I have not plug ins EJM installed and I'm running Windows XP Pro latest update on a dual core EJM machine with 4 Gigs of memory EJM Jerry I just came back to TB! from Thunderbird (after a year) to see how things are going. I keep notes from all my software trials and tribulations. TB! used to use about 24K maximized and would drop well below 10K minimized before. Now, I get 30K on opening, it stays at 30K minimized. After a few hours I am over 50K. I am using the same computer, same e-mail accounts as I was a year ago. The only difference is that this is a clean reinstall of XP SP 2. I believe something has changed with TB! Since I began this e-mail, TB! has gone from 30K to 58K. Sigh and IMAP still sucks too Every time I give TB! a chance, it disappoints. :( -- Regards, Mike TheBat! 3.99.29 on Windows XP Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Memory Leak
Sunday, November 25, 2007 I continue to experience some sort of memory leak with the current official version of The Bat. After about half of a day of use, it moves from 57, 232 K to just under 180, 000K. Even when I minimize the program, it still continues to escalate. Can anyone verify this problem? By the way, I have not plug ins installed and I'm running Windows XP Pro latest update on a dual core machine with 4 Gigs of memory Jerry -- Ethan J. Mings Oakville, Ontario Canada Write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Running: The Bat! Version:3.99.29 Operating Systems: Windows XP 5 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Memory Leak
I continue to experience some sort of memory leak with the current official version of The Bat. After about half of a day of use, it moves from 57, 232 K to just under 180, 000K. Even when I minimize the program, it still continues to escalate. Can anyone verify this problem? By the way, I have not plug ins installed and I'm running Windows XP Pro latest update on a dual core machine with 4 Gigs of memory I just sent a mail about it before I read your mail :))) -- Vili The Bat 3.99.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
memory
Hi, don#t know if this already is reported; A rather odd thing happens here after exiting TB using the tray icon. I noticed it on copying/overwriting a new beta file to the TB directory. It's said I should finish first TB, which I thought, I'd done that already. But looking then in the Taskmanager, the thebat.exe*32 file is still active. I could reproduce it several times. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 3.99.9 under Vista Bussiness 64 bit Current beta is 3.99.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
3.98.15: Memory usage
I had TB running all night, auto check at 5 min on 1 MAPI account. Original 16 MB mem/12 MB VM went up to 30/40 MB. Not good... -- Vili Current beta is 3.98.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 3.98.15: Memory usage
Hello Vili, Thursday, April 19, 2007, 9:01:44 AM, you wrote: V I had TB running all night, auto check at 5 min on 1 MAPI account. V Original 16 MB mem/12 MB VM went up to 30/40 MB. V Not good... Well I noticed that when I first start up, TB uses little mem between 15 and 20 meg. Once I have gotten mail the first time it goes up a bit to between 30 and 35 meg. But it stays there pretty much from then on. Of course I have not had it running for more than a few hours so far g But I have done several gets and a few sends as well and while it might go up a few meg *during* the get, it drops back down to that 30-35 meg range as soon as the connection is done. FWIW, TB, even at the 30-35 size, is still using less mem than FF with one tab/window open or MS word, so I don't find that number out of hand or anything (although if it was smaller that would certainly be better wink) -- Best regards, MikeDmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.98.15 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.98.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mighty memory leak?
Hello Marek, On Tuesday, April 17, 2007 at 12:20:38 PM Marek [MM] wrote: MM Hello all, MM Tuesday, April 17, 2007, Roelof Otten wrote: MP The screenshot shows Bat's memory usage on my computer after a couple MP of hours running. First column is Mem Usage, second is VM Size. Yes, MP that is well over 900MB Confirmed. On starting TB it uses 117 MB over here, after two hours it reached 193 MB. MM confirmed here too, after 3 hours, 397 main and 625 Virtual memory. Can beat this: one hour, 160MB working set, 1.77GB private bytes, 1.86GB virtual memory (values given by Process Explorer). -- Regards Peter Palmreuther (The Bat! v3.98.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2) I could prove God statistically. - GEORGE GALLUP Current beta is 3.98.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mighty memory leak?
·---·-Date---· | QA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [1] | 2007-04-18 | ·---·· [Reply to: »Volker Ahrendt« · 2007-04-17 · 17:49 h (CET)] The screenshot shows Bat's memory usage on my computer after a couple of hours running. First column is Mem Usage, second is VM Size. Yes, that is well over 900MB Confirmed. 26 eMails received = Physical Memory and Virtual Memory each increased by nearly 60MB! Cheers! VA -- [1] Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! Using The Bat! 3.98.12 [Pro] on Windows XP Service Pack 2. »A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.« - Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »Mostly Harmless« Current beta is 3.98.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 3.98.15 (memory - no leaking detected)
Hi Everyone, Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 11:50:27 AM, Maxim wrote: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb39815.rar [*] Better and faster way to shutdown when some tasks are in progress I have been monitoring the memory usage when sending and receiving and filing mails. So far, the memory usage seems stable at about 29 MB. -- Bob Riley Current beta is 3.98.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mighty memory leak?
Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 6:11:25 AM, you wrote: The screenshot shows Bat's memory usage on my computer after a couple of hours running. First column is Mem Usage, second is VM Size. Yes, that is well over 900MB :) Yap, definitively something wrong here. It's running now for 2 hours and the VM size is already at 135MB. -- Michal Paluchowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ www.nethut.pl _ www.buggybrain.com _ I do not fear computers. I fear the lack of them. / Isaac Asimov smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.98.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mighty memory leak?
Michal Paluchowski wrote on 17/04/2007 at 15:11:25 +1100 subject Mighty memory leak? : I thought Firefox would be the ultimate memory-eater, but it seems like The Bat! 3.98.12 beats all :) The screenshot shows Bat's memory usage on my computer after a couple of hours running. First column is Mem Usage, second is VM Size. Yes, that is well over 900MB :) Confirmed on Win2000, see PNG (640MB) -- Sincerely Hendrik Oesterlin - email [EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat! 3.98.12 and Regula Anti-Spam Plugin 2.2.6.0 on Windows 2000 tb3-98-12.png Description: PNG image Current beta is 3.98.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mighty memory leak?
Hello Michal, Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 9:40:29 AM, you wrote: Yap, definitively something wrong here. It's running now for 2 hours and the VM size is already at 135MB. Same thing here: VM size 533 Mb (). Maybe it's the autobackup that is running every night. I'm using OTF by the way. -- George M. Menegakis Using The Bat v3.98.12 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.98.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mighty memory leak?
Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 9:25:39 AM, you wrote: Maybe it's the autobackup that is running every night. Can't be. I'm not using it. As for plugins, I have only the Bayes Filter Plugin (not! BayesIt), which hasn't been updated for a while anyway. -- Michal Paluchowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ www.nethut.pl _ www.buggybrain.com _ I do not fear computers. I fear the lack of them. / Isaac Asimov smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.98.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mighty memory leak?
Hallo Michael, On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 06:11:25 +0200GMT (17-4-2007, 6:11 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MP The screenshot shows Bat's memory usage on my computer after a couple MP of hours running. First column is Mem Usage, second is VM Size. Yes, MP that is well over 900MB Confirmed. On starting TB it uses 117 MB over here, after two hours it reached 193 MB. -- Groetjes, Roelof Veni, vidi, vacuum, (I came, I saw--nothing.) http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.98.12 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 2 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpa5bmYiECAp.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.98.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mighty memory leak?
Hello all, Tuesday, April 17, 2007, Roelof Otten wrote: MP The screenshot shows Bat's memory usage on my computer after a couple MP of hours running. First column is Mem Usage, second is VM Size. Yes, MP that is well over 900MB Confirmed. On starting TB it uses 117 MB over here, after two hours it reached 193 MB. confirmed here too, after 3 hours, 397 main and 625 Virtual memory. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.98.12 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.0.0.4 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 3.98.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mighty memory leak?
Hello Michal, Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 12:11:25 AM, you wrote: MP I thought Firefox would be the ultimate memory-eater, but it seems MP like The Bat! 3.98.12 beats all :) MP The screenshot shows Bat's memory usage on my computer after a couple MP of hours running. First column is Mem Usage, second is VM Size. Yes, MP that is well over 900MB :) Yup, I had to dig out task manager to track down who was causing the 'Out of Virtual Memory' warning and it was TB. -- Best regards, MikeDmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.98.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.98.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mighty memory leak?
Hello Michal, I thought Firefox would be the ultimate memory-eater, but it seems like The Bat! 3.98.12 beats all :) The screenshot shows Bat's memory usage on my computer after a couple of hours running. First column is Mem Usage, second is VM Size. Yes, that is well over 900MB :) Confirmed here also. Has a BT report been open? If not, RIT may not take any action to correct this. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.98.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.98.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mighty memory leak?
·---·-Date---· | QA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [1] | 2007-04-17 | ·---·· [Reply to: »Michal Paluchowski« · 2007-04-17 · 06:11 h (CET)] Hello, Michal! The screenshot shows Bat's memory usage on my computer after a couple of hours running. First column is Mem Usage, second is VM Size. Yes, that is well over 900MB Confirmed. :-/ Cheers! VA -- [1] Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! Using The Bat! 3.98.12 [Pro] on Windows XP Service Pack 2. »A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.« - Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »Mostly Harmless« Current beta is 3.98.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mighty memory leak?
Hello Michal, Confirmed here also. Has a BT report been open? If not, RIT may not take any action to correct this. I'm not registered in the BT, so can someone else please file a report? You discovered the leak and you deserve the honour of opening it ;) It's easy, go to https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/main_page.php and sign up. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.98.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.98.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mighty memory leak?
Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 5:56:41 PM, you wrote: You discovered the leak and you deserve the honour of opening it ;) It's easy, go to https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/main_page.php and sign up. Ah, well... I guess one more BT registration won't harm. I live on them anyway, most of the time on the bug-fixing side. Unfortunately someone did beat me to the leak by around 24 hours: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6341 so what I will do is comment on this issue :) -- Michal Paluchowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ www.nethut.pl _ www.buggybrain.com _ I do not fear computers. I fear the lack of them. / Isaac Asimov smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.98.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mighty memory leak?
Hello all, Tuesday, April 17, 2007, Michal Paluchowski wrote: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6341 so what I will do is comment on this issue :) confirmed and priority increased to High. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.98.12 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.0.0.4 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 3.98.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mighty memory leak?
Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 2:18:03 PM, you wrote: Confirmed here also. Has a BT report been open? If not, RIT may not take any action to correct this. I'm not registered in the BT, so can someone else please file a report? -- Michal Paluchowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ www.nethut.pl _ www.buggybrain.com _ I do not fear computers. I fear the lack of them. / Isaac Asimov smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.98.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mighty memory leak?
Hello Michal, Unfortunately someone did beat me to the leak by around 24 hours: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6341 so what I will do is comment on this issue :) You have to be quick if you want to get the honour ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.98.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.98.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Memory Usage
Hi Everyone, Given all the notes that I have seen re: TB and memory, I have begun allowing Task Manager to run today. After a half hour of TB usage (and after running Thunderbird a bit for my Yahoo Mail as a test), I have found the following memory usage so far: Firefox: 60 MB TB: 51 MB Thunderbird: 30 MB The only filter I use for incoming mail is the one for this group. I'll keep you posted if I see a change in the above that seems significant. Windows XP Home, Build 2600, SP 2 -- Take care, Bob Riley -- Let there be peace on earth, and let it begin with me. This is our function, our challenge, our fulfillment - to accept, enjoy and share. Using The Bat! v3.98.6 (beta) on Windows XP 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.98.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Memory Usage
Given all the notes that I have seen re: TB and memory, I have begun Read their version number also. That is .12. With your .6 you will not see anything, so you just waste your time. -- Vili Current beta is 3.98.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Memory Usage
Given all the notes that I have seen re: TB and memory, I have begun Taking back my prev. note. Your sig says: Using The Bat! v3.98.6 (beta) on Windows XP 2600 Service Pack 2 But apparently you DO use .12. Why is the version difference? -- Vili Current beta is 3.98.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Memory Usage
Hi - Please don't be misled by my signature (which isn't updated). I am running 398.12. Bob On 4/17/07, Vili [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given all the notes that I have seen re: TB and memory, I have begun Read their version number also. That is .12. With your .6 you will not see anything, so you just waste your time. -- Vili Current beta is 3.98.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- -- Bob Riley in New Mexico, USA. Let there be peace on earth, and let it begin with me. This is our function, our challenge, our fulfillment - and our inheritance, to accept and to share. Current beta is 3.98.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Memory Usage
On 4/17/07, Bob Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Firefox: 60 MB TB: 51 MB Thunderbird: 30 MB The only filter I use for incoming mail is the one for this group. I'll keep you posted if I see a change in the above that seems significant. Windows XP Home, Build 2600, SP 2 For what it's worth, I'm using XP SP2, and the .12 beta. Total message count is 13,772 across 300+ folders, with about 5 virtual folders. One account and about 15 simple filters (header matches). When started, TB! grabs 22,508K (according to taskmanager). After 2+ hours, the mem usage is 44,864K. I don't automatically check email. -- WL Current beta is 3.98.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Memory Usage
Hi Everyone, Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 2:28:13 PM, Alex K. wrote: You can use the %THEBATVERSION variable in your signature and it will always show the version you're just using. Thank you for this tip (see below for its implementation) -- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.98.12 on Windows XP 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.98.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Memory Usage
Hi Everyone, Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 1:46:33 PM, WL wrote about TB memory demand going up over time, after I had written: On 4/17/07, Bob Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Firefox: 60 MB TB: 51 MB Thunderbird: 30 MB I notice that TM memory went down to 35 MB or so when I ran Excel, and then I was away from the PC about 2 1/2 hours. When I returned. TB memory had increased to 67 MB With this window open it is 130 MB! -- Take Care, Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.98.12 (beta) on Windows XP 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.98.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
out of memory
Battyfolk, I was working on a new msg got a Bat! out of memory msg. Wouldn't save, delete, etc. Had to end process to get out of TB! This is a first time ever. Noticed a bunch of msgs re: memory hogging. Don't know if this is related. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB!3.98.12, Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 Skype: janrif Current beta is 3.98.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Memory Usage
I had TheBat 3.98.12 using ~70MB at clean start (with 5 Pop accts) and loosing ~4-8KB on each mail check on the server which I do aggressively, every minute on 5 accounts... it didn't take but a few hours before Total KB of the proc was 420+MB ... repeated a second time... then went back to 3.98.11 and it's been relatively stable for 4+ hrs. (start at 70MB now 92MB with initially faster then slow growth curve. So I'd say major issue was checked in with .12 changes... On 4/17/07, Bob Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Firefox: 60 MB TB: 51 MB Thunderbird: 30 MB I notice that TM memory went down to 35 MB or so when I ran Excel, and then I was away from the PC about 2 1/2 hours. When I returned. TB memory had increased to 67 MB With this window open it is 130 MB! -- Regards, Jim Current beta is 3.98.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mighty memory leak?
I thought Firefox would be the ultimate memory-eater, but it seems like The Bat! 3.98.12 beats all :) The screenshot shows Bat's memory usage on my computer after a couple of hours running. First column is Mem Usage, second is VM Size. Yes, that is well over 900MB :) -- Michal Paluchowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ www.nethut.pl _ www.buggybrain.com _ I do not fear computers. I fear the lack of them. / Isaac Asimov bat_memory.png Description: PNG image smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.98.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Memory Usage in Official Release - Mapi32 failure in Beta
Howdy Jernej, Thursday, December 7, 2006, 4:17:05 PM, Jernej wrotened: Interesting? Today at initial start was using 35 000 about 15 seconds after checking all the accounts (2 POP 2 IMAP) then dropped to 7 000 after closing the connection centre. I then minimised TB! and it immediately dropped to 2 000 and it remains pretty consistent thereafter. 7 000 maximised to 2 000 minimised. JS I've said it a million times already: don't look at the Mem Usage column in JS Task Manager because it's lying. That column shows how much of the program JS is currently resident in the *physical memory*, which doesn't mean much, JS especially since the Windows shell (Explorer) forces any program you JS minimize out of physical memory (this is why you see memory usage drop JS when you minimize programs). The only column in Task Manager which tells you JS *something* about the program is VM Size, which tells you how much memory is JS allocated in the program. I've been looking at this for the past couple of days. It started with the bat (in the VM size) at 16000, but is now sitting at a 'good' 5. This is over the course of a couple of days. -- Have Fun, Ben Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] crashing The Bat! v3.86.8 ALPHA (beta) falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Yet now you approach the limits - not of belief, but of comprehension. Current beta is 3.86.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
