Re[2]: Another Wish...

[Jason Thompson]

Hello Allie and Beta Bat Buddies...

> But how much is the install executable. When I started using ICQ
> it was 800-900KB. Now it's 5.58MB and this is without MFC42.DLL. That
> takes quite a while to download with my modem. Even though you simplify the
> interface, check how much memory it's utilising and how long does it take
> to start? Things like that. Quite infuriating because it's largely unnecessary.
Quite true, the download package is far too large. However, as for memory usage,
ICQ is taking (on my system anyhow) only a bit more memory than our Bat friend.
:) And ICQ starts very slowly when it has to read a long history database. Keep
your history clean (or disable history) and ICQ starts quickly.

> The ICQ network is also populated with spammers. I was getting more
> notifications by spammers than genuine correspondents. So I stopped using
> it. :-(
Simple fix: Enable the option to reject all messages not coming from someone on
your contact list!

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Re: attachments sent as octet stream again

[Alexander V. Kiselev]

Hi there!

On 28 Apr 00, at 11:50, Gary wrote
about "Re[2]: attachments sent as octet stream again":

> >> It seems that anytime I send an attachment now, it is sent as octet,
> >> even this exe file.  I have not tried this with Beta 20 though.
> 
> >> Anyone have any thoughts, comments, or suggestions?
> 
> S> That's an example of MIME-Encapsulation and base64 encoding.  It's one
> S> of those Good Things (tm). :-)
> 
> The recipient does not get an attachment, although I send it as an
> attachment, but his email is filled with octet in the message body, as
> above. This has been happening a lot with my attachments to various
> people.

What e-mail clients are these people using? There still exist many MUAs that 
do not deal with MIME properly;-(

Another thing: if you think it's TB responsible for these problems, will you be 
so kind as to send here a _full_ example (together with the headers) of the 
problematic message? Better yet, ask one of your correspondents to send 
you the offending message back _without_editing_ (i.e. resend or bounce 
feature, in Pegasus it's called "forward w/o editing", for example).

Finally, as for your question on octet-streams, this is no problem. Executables 
are _usually_ sent using octet/stream content-types, although not always. In 
fact, content-type doesn't really matter since the only thing that _does_ is the 
content-transfer-encoding thing. In your case it's obviously base64, which's 
okay as far as I can see.

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Re: 1.42 Beta/20 is now available

[Aljoscha Rittner]

Hello Stefan,

Thursday, April 27, 2000, 6:02:15 PM, your (Stefan Tanurkov) Message was:

> Hello All,

>   Please post the list of Most-Hated-Bugs now to get them fixed before
>   the release.
  
1.  Quoting for empty lines
2.  Jump to the next new message over folder-ranges
2.1 Jump to the next new message from a message body
2.2 (Wish: Ctrl-SPACE for jump to next new message _and_ scroll
 through the message body?)
3.  Different spell checker for different folders
4.  User defined font in the folder-explorer
5.  User defined sorting in folder-explorer (eg. drag 'n drop)
5.1 User defined moving folders in the explorer (eg. drag 'n drop)
(creating a new folder and moving some folders under the new
 folder)
6.  Please show attached images in HTML messages _in_ the HTML
message - not as different attachment.

TIA
  Jos(c)h.

PS: Great product - simply the BEST natural eMail system!







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Re[2]: attachments sent as octet stream again

[Gary]

Hi Alexander,

On Friday, April 28, 2000, 12:49:29 PM, you wrote in part about "attachments sent as 
octet stream again":

A> What e-mail clients are these people using? There still exist many
A> MUAs that do not deal with MIME properly;-(

Thanks for your help.  I will check all this out with the people that
I sent the attachments too.  Seems strange through.


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Re: 1.42 Beta/20 is now available

[Alexander V. Kiselev]

Hi there!

On 28 Apr 00, at 19:30, Aljoscha Rittner wrote
about "Re: 1.42 Beta/20 is now available":



> 3.  Different spell checker for different folders

Already implemented via the %LANGUAGE macro.

> 4.  User defined font in the folder-explorer

What do you mean? In the message listing it's already implemented in the 
latest betas.

> 5.  User defined sorting in folder-explorer (eg. drag 'n drop)

What do you mean? In the message listing it's probably useless (since one 
can manually flag the messages one wants to sort to the top, then resort 
based on the "flagged" attribute). In the folders pane it's already implemented 
(Alt-dragging).

> 5.1 User defined moving folders in the explorer (eg. drag 'n drop)
> (creating a new folder and moving some folders under the new
>  folder)

It's already there. See above.

> 6.  Please show attached images in HTML messages _in_ the HTML
> message - not as different attachment.

I don't quite understand what you mean. There are currently three possibilities:
1. HTML message comes without images => images are not displayed.
2. HTML message comes _with_ images, the IMG SRCs are given as "local" 
file references (i.e. without full paths), the images themselves are attached to 
the message => images are displayed just fine.
3. HTML message comes with IMG SRCs where the full paths (whatever they 
are) are specified => malformed HTML, the images aren't displayed even if 
attached.

I see absolutely no problem sofar.

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Re[3]: URL browser fire-up (was:Re: 1.42 Beta/20 is now available)

[LCB]

Greetings BatPeople,

I dont think the problem is the space in the path. I went through my
registry and changed all references to ...\Program Files\opera\... to
read ...\Progra~1\opera\... the browser opens the same, but it still
will not open the URL. Instead opera gives the message: "The address type
is unknown or unsupported".

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Re[3]: URL browser fire-up (was:Re: 1.42 Beta/20 is now available)

[LCB]

Greetings BatPeople,

Friday, April 28, 2000, 12:24:53 AM, LCB wrote:

>>> On  Friday, April 28, 2000  at  12:09:52 GMT +0800 (which was 12:09 AM
>>> where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:

CS> Hello Thomas,

   
>> Hello Chuck,

>> On Thu, 27 Apr 2000 23:50:38 -0400GMT (28/04/2000, 11:50 +0800GMT),
>> Chuck Smith wrote:
oh .. and the path in the registry has the quotes:
""c:\Program Files\opera\opera.exe" /nowin"

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Re[2]: 1.42 Beta/20 is now available

[Aljoscha Rittner]

Hello Alexander,

Friday, April 28, 2000, 8:26:55 PM, your (Alexander V. Kiselev) Message was:

> Hi there!

> On 28 Apr 00, at 19:30, Aljoscha Rittner wrote
> about "Re: 1.42 Beta/20 is now available":

>> 3.  Different spell checker for different folders
> Already implemented via the %LANGUAGE macro.

Yes you are right, hard to find :-)

>> 4.  User defined font in the folder-explorer

> What do you mean? In the message listing it's already implemented in the 
> latest betas.

I've 1600*1200 resolution. The explorer font is very small. What
I mean is a general customizing for the explorer font.

>> 5.  User defined sorting in folder-explorer (eg. drag 'n drop)
> (Alt-dragging).
> It's already there. See above.
Ok, it's my fault (RTFM...)

>> 6.  Please show attached images in HTML messages _in_ the HTML
>> message - not as different attachment.

> I don't quite understand what you mean. There are currently three possibilities:
> 1. HTML message comes without images => images are not displayed.
> 2. HTML message comes _with_ images, the IMG SRCs are given as "local" 
> file references (i.e. without full paths), the images themselves are attached to 
the message =>> images are displayed just fine.
> 3. HTML message comes with IMG SRCs where the full paths (whatever they 
> are) are specified => malformed HTML, the images aren't displayed even if 
> attached.

Yes problem 3 is the answer for the bad looking mails in my
inbox - thanx!


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Re: 1.42 Beta/20 is now available

[Allie Martin]

On Fri, 28 Apr 2000 22:10:04 +0200, Aljoscha Rittner wrote:

8<

>> What do you mean? In the message listing it's already implemented in the 
>> latest betas.

> I've 1600*1200 resolution. The explorer font is very small. What
> I mean is a general customizing for the explorer font.

The message list font and size, you may now change in the current beta.
You cannot in the latest release.

At that high resolution, you most likely need to go into your display
settings and adjust the global font sizes to large or even greater than
this. It's under the advanced options in the 'settings' page.

Otherwise, to actually change the system default font size would involve
hacking the registry as the only recourse.

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Re: 1.42 Beta/20 is now available

[Alexander V. Kiselev]

Hi there!

On 28 Apr 00, at 22:10, Aljoscha Rittner wrote
about "Re[2]: 1.42 Beta/20 is now availabl":

> >> 4.  User defined font in the folder-explorer
> 
> > What do you mean? In the message listing it's already implemented in the 
> > latest betas.
> 
> I've 1600*1200 resolution. The explorer font is very small. What
> I mean is a general customizing for the explorer font.

And again, look at Options-->Message List Colours, "Font" button of this 
dialog. This changes the font used in the message list. I don't know any way to 
change the font used in the folders pane yet;-(

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UTF-8 again.

[Christopher J. Trybowski]

Hello all,

 I  have  some  plain-text UTF-8 messages here, created by Outlook. TB
 displays  them  correctly,  but when I click "reply" nothing happens.
 After  the  second  click  -- the empty reply window appears, without
 even headers specified. Anyone gets something alike?

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