Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there
I don't consider this to be a bug. If the message you are viewing, or any other message in the same folder, is already marked as read when the VF refreshes, I would say it is normal and to be expected that the message(s) disappear from the VF. As you say, your VF is configured to show *unread* messages. Well, it makes absolutely no sense to remove the message from the VF while it is still selected. Having the message selected in the message list (and open in the preview pane) means it is a message currently being looked at, so refreshing its state in the VF only makes sense once you have FINISHED working with this message (i.e. selected another one). The result of the message being removed from the list while you are still working with it is dramatic: - you can't flag it, as it's not in the list anymore - you can't delete it - you can't mark it as unread - you can't park it - ... If you want to do any of these thing, you'll have to search for the folder the message is located in. If your VF draws on many folders this may be a long search. It's not such an usual way to have a VF show unread messages, but with the current bug it's absolutely useless. And the worst part is that it worked right in v4! BRgds, Carsten Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there
Probably the best (and easiest) way to handle this would be that a VF, while open, does not remove any messages automatically, and only adds the new ones. Removing only takes place once you either refresh manually or leave the VF. That's how v4 handled it and it definitely made sense. On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Carsten Guthardt-Schulz gutha...@gmail.com wrote: Well, it makes absolutely no sense to remove the message from the VF while it is still selected. Having the message selected in the message list (and open in the preview pane) means it is a message currently being looked at, so refreshing its state in the VF only makes sense once you have FINISHED working with this message (i.e. selected another one). The result of the message being removed from the list while you are still working with it is dramatic: - you can't flag it, as it's not in the list anymore - you can't delete it - you can't mark it as unread - you can't park it - ... If you want to do any of these thing, you'll have to search for the folder the message is located in. If your VF draws on many folders this may be a long search. It's not such an usual way to have a VF show unread messages, but with the current bug it's absolutely useless. And the worst part is that it worked right in v4! BRgds, Carsten Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML cursor up does not work
Dear Rick, --- Rick / Saturday Sat 19. May 2012, 10:55 PM HTML cursor up does not work Any confirmation? Can't confirm it. I use HTML/Plain Text and it seems to be working correctly here Could it be that it is only visible when HTML only is selected? I just tried again with everything set to HTML only and it seemed to work ok I just made several other tests and I can't confirm other than it is as I wrote. Under HTML pressing ALT+[arrow up] /AND/ ALT+[arrow down] has the same effect (scrolling ONLY down). If in Plain Text ALT+[arrow up] scrolls the text up and ALT+[arrow down] scrolls the text down as it should. Can you pls check this again on your side? Many thanks! -- best regards | Using The Bat! 5.1.6.2 Eddie | on Windows 7 6.1 | Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there
5/20/2012 8:41 AM Hi Carsten, On 5/20/2012 Carsten Guthardt-Schulz wrote: CGS Probably the best (and easiest) way to handle this would be that CGS a VF, while open, does not remove any messages automatically, and CGS only adds the new ones. Removing only takes place once you either CGS refresh manually or leave the VF. That's how v4 handled it and it definitely made sense. Agreed... see below... - -- Paul The Bat! v.4.2.44.2 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 6.1.7601 No IMAP No OTFE Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML cursor up does not work
On Sunday, May 20, 2012, 6:57:15 AM, Eddie wrote: I just made several other tests and I can't confirm other than it is as I wrote. Under HTML pressing ALT+[arrow up] /AND/ ALT+[arrow down] has the same effect (scrolling ONLY down). If in Plain Text ALT+[arrow up] scrolls the text up and ALT+[arrow down] scrolls the text down as it should. Can you pls check this again on your side? Many thanks! it's working fine here. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.1.6.2 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there
Hello Carsten, Well, it makes absolutely no sense to remove the message from the VF while it is still selected. Having the message selected in the message list (and open in the preview pane) means it is a message currently being looked at, so refreshing its state in the VF only makes sense once you have FINISHED working with this message (i.e. selected another one). What really doesn't make sense to me is what you wrote in your first post: ,- [ ] | ... which then of course become read when you click on them. `- Wouldn't it make much more sense to mark a message as read (*) when you have actually finished reading it and after deciding if you want to flag it, delete it, park it, tag it, reply or forward it, assign it to a color group or perhaps just leaving it as unread? (*) Using Smart Space, Ctrl+M (or any key combination you want to customise) or from RMB menu if you are using the mouse. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.1.6.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there
Hi Paul, CGS Probably the best (and easiest) way to handle this would be that CGS a VF, while open, does not remove any messages automatically, and CGS only adds the new ones. Removing only takes place once you either CGS refresh manually or leave the VF. That's how v4 handled it and CGS it definitely made sense. P Agreed... see below... Agreed as well. One more thing is that if new messages in the folder are selected for reading they are marked automatically as Read - that is logical and if there is no other action from a user side filter should be triggered when user moves to next message. But if user decided to keep message as UnRead with CTRL+U filter is still triggered after you move to next message and UnRead message is filtered out. IMO, if user decides to keep message UnRead filter should not be triggered. Just an observation. -- Best Regards, RS (FEDARA) The Bat! 5.1.2 Windows 7 x64 Professional (7601 Service Pack 1) POP3 accounts (x5) Monday, May 21, 2012 (00:14 ; GMT+8) Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
This is it what I mean!! (WAS: HTML cursor up does not work)
Hello Cees, On Sun, 13 May 2012 21:20:14 +0200 GMT (14/May/12, 2:20 AM +0700 GMT), Cees wrote: okay... but at least it got ME to write again... ;-) Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=gkfVdrtLcRs Come back when you've completed the whole video. That'll teach you (and Ron) to lurk! ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic(8) Recent Activity: Visit Your Group Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest ? Unsubscribe ? Terms of Use . __,_._,___ Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML cursor up does not work
Dear Dwight, --- Dwight Corrin / Sunday Sun 20. May 2012, 03:48 PM HTML cursor up does not work Can you pls check this again on your side? Many thanks! it's working fine here. Will send you a sample. It has name as I need to FW it and then could not change Name and Subject. So this FW is a genuine view of the problem. -- best regards | Using The Bat! 5.1.6.2 Eddie | on Windows 7 6.1 | Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Statistics for sausagesocialclub: mei 2012
Hello Cees, On Sun, 13 May 2012 21:20:14 +0200 GMT (14/May/12, 2:20 AM +0700 GMT), Cees wrote: okay... but at least it got ME to write again... ;-) Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=gkfVdrtLcRs Come back when you've completed the whole video. That'll teach you (and Ron) to lurk! ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic(8) Recent Activity: Visit Your Group Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest ? Unsubscribe ? Terms of Use . __,_._,___ Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML cursor up does not work
Title: Re: HTML cursor up does not work Dear Dwight, --- Dwight Corrin / Sunday Sun 20. May 2012, 03:48 PM HTML cursor up does not work it's working fine here. Pls let me know if it does not arrive. I then have to send it by PM -- best regards | Using The Bat! 5.1.6.2 Eddie| on Windows 7 6.1 | Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML cursor up does not work
Hello Cees, On Sun, 13 May 2012 21:20:14 +0200 GMT (14/May/12, 2:20 AM +0700 GMT), Cees wrote: okay... but at least it got ME to write again... ;-) Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=gkfVdrtLcRs Come back when you've completed the whole video. That'll teach you (and Ron) to lurk! ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic(8) Recent Activity: Visit Your Group Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest ? Unsubscribe ? Terms of Use . __,_._,___ Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
HTML cursor up does not work (WAS: HTML cursor up does not work)
Title: HTML cursor up does not work (WAS: HTML cursor up does not work) Dear Dwight, --- Dwight Corrin / Sunday Sun 20. May 2012, 03:48 PM HTML cursor up does not work Can you pls check this again on your side? Many thanks! it's working fine here. Have just send another test mail this time from this List. Under HTML, Alt-CursorUp does not work. Check this: mid:camxepcwhdk3xp2s6aqkg7xfv-i8e_tayke5mkta1kcyahxy...@mail.gmail.com -- best regards | Using The Bat! 5.1.6.2 Eddie| on Windows 7 6.1 | Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: This is it what I mean!! (WAS: HTML cursor up does not work)
Hallo Eddie, Sunday, May 20, 2012, 6:31:59 PM, you wrote: okay... but at least it got ME to write again... ;-) Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=gkfVdrtLcRs Come back when you've completed the whole video. That'll teach you (and Ron) to lurk! ;-) Ahem... after precisely 2 and 1 quarter of a second I got sick and tired of it. YOU try it! LOL I'm more of a Doors fan. Btw, why do you write on a beta-list while using version 4.2.44? We're way further than that now. -- met vriendelijke groet, Cees Schouten __ TheBat! v5.1.6.2 Professional Edition Registered to Cees Schouten S/N 3F8062AA Single-computer licence on Windows 7 Ultimate X64 6.1.7601 Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: This is it what I mean!! (WAS: HTML cursor up does not work)
Hi Cees, Cees Btw, why do you write on a beta-list while using version Cees 4.2.44? We're way further than that now. Nothing wrong about it :) -- Best Regards, RS (FEDARA) The Bat! 5.1.2 Windows 7 x64 Professional (7601 Service Pack 1) POP3 accounts (x5) Monday, May 21, 2012 (01:16 ; GMT+8) Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: This is it what I mean!! (WAS: HTML cursor up does not work)
Hallo RS, Sunday, May 20, 2012, 7:17:14 PM, you wrote: Cees Btw, why do you write on a beta-list while using version Cees 4.2.44? We're way further than that now. Nothing wrong about it :) True, I think, but had to get back on topic. ;) -- met vriendelijke groet, Cees Schouten __ TheBat! v5.1.6.2 Professional Edition Registered to Cees Schouten S/N 3F8062AA Single-computer licence on Windows 7 Ultimate X64 6.1.7601 Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there
Hello RS, One more thing is that if new messages in the folder are selected for reading they are marked automatically as Read - Not if Account/Properties/Options/Mark message as read... is not selected (ticked). -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.1.6.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there
Hi MAU, RS One more thing is that if new messages in the folder are RS selected for reading they are marked automatically as Read - MAU Not if Account/Properties/Options/Mark message as read... is not MAU selected (ticked). You might be right about that ; however, I get about 50-100 messages a day and most of them are to be marked as Read while opened. Just a few of them are to still stay as UnRead for further processing. So, in my case using that option as checked is helpful so I do not have to manually mark 100 messages a day :) What I meant here was only that if user decides to keep a message as UnRead filter shall not be triggered (user marking it as UnRead after check-up may rather be willing to leave it for further processing in the folder where it is at the moment than have it moved). If I'm mistaken I do not see much sense in an option to mark the message as UrRead if it's to be moved out somewhere and anyway I need to look for it in the depth of the folders :) -- Best Regards, RS (FEDARA) The Bat! 5.1.2 Windows 7 x64 Professional (7601 Service Pack 1) POP3 accounts (x5) Monday, May 21, 2012 (01:24 ; GMT+8) Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:This is it what I mean!!
Title: Re:This is it what I mean!! Dear Cees, --- Cees Schouten / Sunday Sun 20. May 2012, 08:07 PM This is it what I mean!! (WAS: HTML cursor up does not work) Ahem... after precisely 2 and 1 quarter of a second I got sick and tired of it. YOU try it! LOL I'm more of a Doors fan. Btw, why do you write on a beta-list while using version 4.2.44? We're way further than that now. Sorry Cees you missed the whole point. That eMail was not about the content but about the problem I was describing in "HTML cursor up does not work". -- Eddie Castelli 50minCoach 'Executive Success Solution' == Switzerland: +41-44 586 6362 -=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:This is it what I mean!!
Title: Re:This is it what I mean!! Dear Cees, --- Cees Schouten / Sunday Sun 20. May 2012, 08:20 PM This is it what I mean!! (WAS: HTML cursor up does not work) Cees Btw, why do you write on a beta-list while using version Cees 4.2.44? We're way further than that now. Nothing wrong about it :) True, I think, but had to get back on topic. ;) Damn - don't know what happen here. And sorry for having Highjacked other eMails -- Eddie Castelli 50minCoach 'Executive Success Solution' == Switzerland: +41-44 586 6362 -=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: This is it what I mean!!
Hello Eddie, Sunday, May 20, 2012, 9:14:13 PM, you wrote: E Damn - don't know what happen here. E And sorry for having Highjacked other eMails Sorry, tried it with the SSC-mails you sent, but up goes up and down goes down over here. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 5.1.6.2 Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there
Hello RS, MAU Not if Account/Properties/Options/Mark message as read... is not MAU selected (ticked). You might be right about that ; however, I get about 50-100 messages a day and most of them are to be marked as Read while opened. Just a few of them are to still stay as UnRead for further processing. So, in my case using that option as checked is helpful so I do not have to manually mark 100 messages a day :) It is certainly your option to do so. As I have said on this list before, and just recently in this thread, I mark messages as read when I have actually finished reading them and/or decided what I want to do with them. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.1.6.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML cursor up does not work (WAS: HTML cursor up does not work)
On Sunday, May 20, 2012, 11:55:02 AM, Eddie wrote: Have just send another test mail this time from this List. Under HTML, Alt-CursorUp does not work. Check this: mid:camxepcwhdk3xp2s6aqkg7xfv-i8e_tayke5mkta1kcyahxy...@mail.gmail.com this doesn't to anything for me, because this message is not in my mailboxes. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.1.6.1 on Windows 7 version 6,1 (Service Pack 1) Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
