Re: lost all messages in upgrade
Hello Stephen, On Saturday, May 06, 2000 at 09:32:14 GMT +1000 (which was 4:32 PM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: So there is new import Tool (Import from MSB) in ver 1.42 to deal with the old MSB files. Yes it is also useful when combining two instances of TB! One might ask for an import tool for the new .tbb files, but Lief Gregory posted a much nicer work around. If anyone is interested, it can be reposted in another thread. It isn't really on topic for this thread. With earlier version I had exported all folder contents to MSG, and yet Bat also chokes and dies via import of this folder's x53 MSG contents if I select them all. On testing I found 2 messages out of 53 that it just cannot digest on import (whether singly or collectively), and it just hangs. They look the same as the others, (same size and makeup), so I wonder what it is about them? If I select the other 51, it will import them in one go no problem, but if I include either of the other two, it will crash. Obviously you know how to manipulate the files, perhaps you could post the offending messages and someone could help you figure out what the problem is. If there is no obvious problem with them, it could be a bug. -- See ya Stephen Not that it matters, but since you're using the sig delimiter, I assume you would like it to work correctly. The correct sig delimiter is dashdashspaceenter -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.42 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A The Invisible Man will not be seen tonight. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filtering / Deleting messages w/ *.vbs attachments
JT .zip Presence Yes Kludges JT .zip Presence Yes Anywhere JT Neither worked. DH That seems to indicate that attachments are not referred to in the DH header info (or TB! isn't using it), which doesn't jive with what DH I'd imagine to be true. "Attachments" are all handled in the message body. There is no attachment information in the header because there doesn't need to be: the header is simply to give routing information. The attachments are part of the message body typically in a format known as MIME. I don't know if TB! allows you to see the "Raw" message, but if you can figure out a way, it'll show you how MIME works. -tom! -- Hopin' this said *something* useful, [EMAIL PROTECTED] out. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Wish List
JTM ... I have limited screen real estate and many items in the JTM list area and some of them get cut off. ... DH Try View / Split mode / Vertical Split. Also, use no or only the DH Configuration Toolbar during normal use (invoke the main Toolbar DH only when needed). When I view my messages with TB! on my laptop, I have only an 800x640 display. Even with an 8-point font in the message body I don't have enough screen space; the folder list is the entire screen height and the message list is just too long. For some of us, the split modes just aren't sufficient (yet another one of those "see how Agent does it" requests)... Now that I can change the message list font, I'm happy, just gotta DL 1.42. -tom! -- Hopin' this said *something* useful, [EMAIL PROTECTED] out. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: secure POP?
Hello Gord, On Saturday, May 06, 2000 at 14:41:57 GMT -0600 (which was 1:41 PM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: Nope - I mentioned the APop option to him, but he's ULTRA paranoid...secure login is one thing, but he want to protect the body as well. Don't ask me why he won't just PGP for messages that need to be secure. UGH. MDP I do not know if this constitutes SSL POP. Anyone else? Not according to my guyI wish I understood this stuff better...but I'm learning! :) Gord I used to have to use SSH to access my POP server, and SSL should work fairly similarly. What I had done was get a good telnet client like TeraTerm Pro with the appropriate SSL pack. Then you log into the mail server with the SSL client. Set up port forwarding for your POP port and your SMTP port. Set TB to use the localhost equivalents and you should be in business. If you don't understand what the heck I'm talking about (I'm not sure I do), check with your networking guy. He should be able to decipher what I'm saying. Otherwise mail me off list and hopefully I can help you set this up a little more clearly. The reason he wants you to use SSL and not PGP is because he wants to protect against unauthorized access (read hacking) to his servers. SSL makes the connection secure, not the messages. For more info on SSL, a quick search on the net will get you lots of information, but this one seemed pretty good. http://developer.netscape.com/docs/manuals/security/sslin/contents.htm -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.42 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A I should probably engage that largish, grey organ lurking inside of my skull a bit more often. I think it's called a brain. -- Simon -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: PGP and Win2000 Pro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Tony, Saturday, May 06, 2000, 9:06:36 PM, you wrote: TB I just downloaded 6.5.3. When I view the version number it says TB 6.5.3. TB If you look at the signature using this version it states it as TB being 6.5i That's because you are using the "The Bat!" plug-in, and the Version of PGP is hard-coded in The Bat!. Try signing something with PGPTray, you'll see. - -- Best regards, Lionelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP RSA 1024 bits Key Fingerprint (KeyID: F6467875): 81A1 06A7 32C1 92DA 3B5A 3433 C96F B3CD PGP RSA 2048 bits Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 20C897E9): 85CF 986F 263E 8CD0 80FD 4B8C F5F9 C17D PGP DH/DSS 2048/1024 Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 8B91DF22): CB1E 44F1 4BBC 38D2 56A9 BE67 D8C0 2B43 8B91 DF22 PGP DH/DSS 4096/1024 Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 3E7B4B73): 9DAD 3131 3ADA F50B D096 002A B1C4 7317 3E7B 4B73 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBORUHEbHEcxc+e0tzEQIN6gCgkT3PdGEla1o7We/fgC7dyJyvP98AoMl5 c6eUA5+Isc72aHf8N8tewijY =aUB2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[7]: PGP and Win2000 Pro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Gary, Sunday, May 07, 2000, 12:20:49 AM, you wrote: G It is scary isn't it, no source code in the later releases. Yes, it really bothers me. And, what's more, I'll install W2000Pro soon. I'll have no choice but to use those versions. *Oh*, someone, please implement a well tested entropy source in GPG for Win32! - -- Best regards, Lionelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP DH/DSS 4096/1024 Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 3E7B4B73): 9DAD 3131 3ADA F50B D096 002A B1C4 7317 3E7B 4B73 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBORUHZ7HEcxc+e0tzEQJ1cgCg+yGkZ1F5b556a+6uw8jj0rWFftUAoIe5 c3D50a+N11033fN+/v8i6XsZ =FTXh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Filtering / Deleting messages w/ *.vbs attachments
Hello Tom and Bat Buddies... "Attachments" are all handled in the message body. There is no attachment information in the header because there doesn't need to be: the header is simply to give routing information. The attachments are part of the message body typically in a format known as MIME. I don't know if TB! allows you to see the "Raw" message, but if you can figure out a way, it'll show you how MIME works. Hmm. So why didn't the "anywhere" parameter work then? I would imagine "anywhere" to include the entire body. -- Unequivocally, Jason Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! v1.42 Win98 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filtering / Deleting messages w/ *.vbs attachments
"Attachments" are all handled in the message body. There is no attachment information in the header... JT Hmm. So why didn't the "anywhere" parameter work then? I would imagine JT "anywhere" to include the entire body. AIUI, "anywhere" means anywhere in the headers. At least, that's the assumption I've been working under... Not to mention it could take forever to scan bodies of messages (say, for instance, you have attachments with VBS files in them ;). -tom! -- Hopin' this said *something* useful, [EMAIL PROTECTED] out. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filtering / Deleting messages w/ *.vbs attachments
Hi Jason, On 07 May 2000 at 00:14:26 GMT -0700 (which was 08:14 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Filtering / Deleting messages w/ *.vbs attachments": Hmm. So why didn't the "anywhere" parameter work then? I would imagine "anywhere" to include the entire body. Depends where you specified it. Was it on the Alternatives tab? If not, then it was ANDed with the requirement for .zip to be present in Kludges. The real filter should look for only one of these alternatives or use the OR functionality of the Alternatives tab. -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY *--- | Using The Bat! 1.42 S/N 14F4B4B2 | under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 *--- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Flagging?
On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 01:28:49PM +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: I don't need the colours. I played with them a bit, my screen turned into a circus, and I'm back to default. If you say the signle flag is bloat, well, what about the colours which require a lot more code? :-P You could define one color for "flagged" and then exercise some self control. Meanwhile flagging is either on or off, nothing else, can be replicated with color which others can use for more than just on and off. IE, worthless. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Can't upgrade to new msg base format!
Hi there I tried to upgrade from v1.41 to v1.42. Before, I copied the whole Mail directory to another harddisk. During the message base format convertion I get always an error 'Couldn't write to message base. Check if there's enough disk space in Temp and Mail directory'. But I've 1.2GB free disk space on each harddisk. This can't be the problem. Once I choosed the option 'Delete old message file' and it worked some seconds longer, but then gives me the same error. It's always the same folder that causes this error (not the first). It contains about 550 messages and 6 subfolders and was compressed on each exit. Now, I'm running v1.41 again. I was glad to upgrade because of all the new features, now I'm kind of sad... WHAT should I do? Please help. I'd be very grateful. So short, Beat Strasser -- ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI. -- PGP public key available: Send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or get it on keyservers: 0x4E0B0777 (DH/DSS) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Can't upgrade to new msg base format!
Hello Beat, On Sunday, May 07, 2000 at 12:08:35 GMT +0200 (which was 3:08 AM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: Hi there I tried to upgrade from v1.41 to v1.42. Before, I copied the whole Mail directory to another harddisk. During the message base format convertion I get always an error 'Couldn't write to message base. Check if there's enough disk space in Temp and Mail directory'. But I've 1.2GB free disk space on each harddisk. This can't be the problem. Once I choosed the option 'Delete old message file' and it worked some seconds longer, but then gives me the same error. It's always the same folder that causes this error (not the first). It contains about 550 messages and 6 subfolders and was compressed on each exit. Now, I'm running v1.41 again. I was glad to upgrade because of all the new features, now I'm kind of sad... WHAT should I do? Please help. I'd be very grateful. So short, Beat Strasser Try two things, first while using v1.41, export the offending message base to .msg files (or Unix box, I don't remember what 1.41 called it.) Next use Windows Explorer (or equivalent) to *move* the offending folder structure out of the mail directory. Try upgrading the rest of your files. If that works, then in TB recreate the folders that didn't work. Try using the import tool. You can try importing either the .msb or .msg files. If you still have problems, there is likely something wrong with one of the messages in the message base that isn't importing. Unfortunately, I'm out of my league if the above solutions don't work. Good luck! -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.42 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A I was the next door kid's imaginary friend. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Flagging?
Hallo Steve, On Sun, 7 May 2000 02:20:04 -0700 GMT (07.05.2000, 17:20 +0800 GMT), Steve Lamb wrote: SL You could define one color for "flagged" and then exercise some self SL control. Meanwhile flagging is either on or off, nothing else, Right, and it's one click with the mouse into the flag column on the View Folder message list. Assigning colours gives you certainly more choices - and therefore more than one click. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.42 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Flagging?
Hi Steve Lamb, On Sunday, May 07, 2000 at 5:36:28 AM you wrote: The column can be hidden, yes. And it must be hidden on all new folders twice. Not fun. You are aware of that "Use the account default column settings" checkbox, aren't you? Oliver Sturm -- % \(- (-: Command not found. -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Flagging?
On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 01:04:29PM +0200, Oliver Sturm wrote: You are aware of that "Use the account default column settings" checkbox, aren't you? Yes. Unfortunately that doesn't work on custom folders nor on newly created ones like in the folder view. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Backing up TB! messages
Hello Quin, On Saturday, May 06, 2000 you wrote: Hello TBUDL, I've been making backups of the Mail folder and the registry entry. Some have suggested backing up the whole TB! directory. Is there any advantage to the latter method? (I'm planning a complete format and reinstall.) It depends on your configuration, but as long as you are using default settings, it's enough to back up your mail folder. -- Christopher J. Trybowski === -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- uin:4350719 -- http://www.trybik.i.krakow.pl --- pgp-keys: 0xB92EEE69 0x9382700B ===( get-pgp-keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=send_key )=== Using The Bat! 1.42c [reg] under Windows 98 4.10 build 1998. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Flagging?
On Sun, 7 May 2000 18:56:33 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: SL You could define one color for "flagged" and then exercise some SL self control. Meanwhile flagging is either on or off, nothing else, Right, and it's one click with the mouse into the flag column on the View Folder message list. Assigning colours gives you certainly more choices - and therefore more than one click. ;-) This is the only advantage of flagging, i.e., the speed of execution but otherwise, I agree with Steve. It's pretty redundant with colour groups and memos. -- © 2000 Allie Martin /*\ Using TB! v1.42c on Win2k Pro --- PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=GetAlliePGPKey Urghm! - "Oxymoron: Sergeant Major. " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Can't upgrade to new msg base format!
On Sun, 7 May 2000 03:23:27 -0700, Januk Aggarwal wrote: Try two things, first while using v1.41, export the offending message base to .msg files (or Unix box, I don't remember what 1.41 called it.) Next use Windows Explorer (or equivalent) to *move* the offending folder structure out of the mail directory. Try upgrading the rest of your files. If that works, then in TB recreate the folders that didn't work. Try using the import tool. You can try importing either the .msb or .msg files. If you still have problems, there is likely something wrong with one of the messages in the message base that isn't importing. Unfortunately, I'm out of my league if the above solutions don't work. My only addition would be to check your temp folder making sure that it's not chock full with temp files etc. -- © 2000 Allie Martin | Using TB! v1.42c on Win2k Pro --- PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=GetAlliePGPKey Urghm! - "To learn more about paranoids, follow them around! " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Flagging?
Steve L. wrote: Meanwhile flagging is either on or off, nothing else, can be replicated with color which others can use for more than just on and off. IE, worthless. Except that it can be applied or removed by a single-click of mouse, that is, it is a mousey toggle? Also that it works in the Outbox, wherein the application of color don't seem to work for me (grayed out). Even the Ctrl-G for keyboard flagging doesn't work there. You made good point about how when creating custom folders that "flagging" column just appears by default, which is a bit unwieldly if not interesting in using flagging column. It would be nice to be able to set up default column headers for new folders, rather than just have them given and pre-set, for I don't think I can create a default 'new folder setup' in advance. I personally would like to have the "Use the Account Default Column settings" preticked for me, as I tick it every time anyway. -- Best regards, Stephen -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Flagging?
,Morning Allie, This is the only advantage of flagging, i.e., the speed of execution but otherwise, I agree with Steve. It's pretty redundant with colour groups and memos. Theoretically, flags could be used as additional marker, as it's not possible to assign unlimited groups, which would allow even more powerful management functions, especially with virtual folders. Alas, practically, there's already more power than I need in The Bat! I don't think I'll even use memo's anytime soon. -- .. Jast ... mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : using TB 1.42c : with AMD K6-2, 64MB RAM :. on Windows 98 4.10 A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: I *can* upgrade to new msg base format now! :)
Hi Januk Thx very much for your tip. It was quiet a lot of work, because there were many folders in mess (because some attachments were missing)... ...but now it's all ok and works!! smile Thx and thx to all programmers and beta testers. The new features are really cool and useful. So short, Beat -- PGP public key available: Send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or get it on keyservers: 0x4E0B0777 (DH/DSS) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Flagging?
On Sun, 7 May 2000 15:56:31 +0200, Jast wrote: Alas, practically, there's already more power than I need in The Bat! I don't think I'll even use memo's anytime soon. Memo's are great. They stand out starkly if used judiciously. I use them to help identify very important, specific messages which aren't evident simply by the sender or the subject. These messages can get easily lost among other flagged messages. A prime example is a products registration information. The memo not only tells you it's important but also can tell you what's important about the message. I may assign the colour red to these messages but often you don't easily know exactly what's in the message because of an inadequate subject header. -- © 2000 Allie Martin | Using TB! v1.42c on Win2k Pro --- PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=GetAlliePGPKey Urghm! - "Efficiency takes time! Frugality: who can afford it? " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Filtering / Deleting messages w/ *.vbs attachments
Hello Marck and all TBUDLers, Sunday, May 07, 2000, 2:49:05 AM, you wrote in response to Jason's points on the subject of "Filtering / Deleting messages w/ *.vbs attachments" and using the "anywhere" parameter. MDP Depends where you specified it. Was it on the Alternatives tab? MDP If not, then it was ANDed with the requirement for .zip to be MDP present in Kludges. The real filter should look for only one of MDP these alternatives or use the OR functionality of the MDP Alternatives tab. Judging from the above, the objective of "Filtering / Deleting messages w/ *.vbs attachments" IS obtainable. Perhaps the questions are "How are mime attachments coded in the message bdy by TB!, and will a filter pick this up? Regarding Flagging: With Color Groups, 3 levels of Priorities and Memos (the message of Marck's I'm answering has *** on the first line of the memo - so I can keep it narrow on the column bar - and an explanation below of what preceded it); red flags "sale sobrando" (may be obsolete) but preferred by some due their high visibility, narrow profile and quick implementation. I don't think it's possible to satisfy all TB! users, although it appears that a fairly well defined user group has been targeted. Bloat is like cholesterol, it's gotten a bad press and does clog arteries but is never-the-less necessary for human metabolism (i.e. cell wall and hormone formation, among other functions). Regarding a Wish List: I would still like to see a way to edit incoming mail without placing it in the outbox first, and possibly a way to add memos to the *body* of a message (the memo would be indicated by a small, clickable colored box), although I could live without the later if much coding (bloat) was involved. Supporting the Cntrl+ arrow up and down commands IS important for jumping between paragraphs when editing, however. Add an online offline button (for activating / deactivating auto downloading - although Tom Fernandez was kind enough to send a code for doing that) and an optional virtual folder column so all incoming mail could be view together on arrival if desired (or selected via the column), and I'd call TB! the ideal, current state of the art mailer. (I've already learned to hate to receive html mail for letters, and look down on those who use it). Douglas -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Editor Cursor Movement
I just upgraded to 1.42 and have found something that behaves differently than it did in prior versions. I don't want to call it a bug just yet, but I'd like to know if anyone else is experiencing it... When I'm at the bottom of the editor window typing a new message or a reply, and the line wraps, the new line doesn't scroll up in the window so I can see what I'm typing. I can still type, but all I can see is the very tip-top of the vertical cursor. In other words, the new line dips below the bottom edge of the window. I'm 99.9% certain this didn't happen in prior versions. And I've checked the 1.42 "What's New" list and I see no mention of anything having to do with scrolling. Opinions please? -- "Just say no" prevents teenage pregnancy the way 'Have a nice day' cures chronic depression. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.ne.mediaone.net/phred13 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filtering / Deleting messages w/ *.vbs attachments
On Sun, 07 May 2000 10:28:17 -0600, Douglas Hinds wrote: Judging from the above, the objective of "Filtering / Deleting messages w/ *.vbs attachments" IS obtainable. Perhaps the questions are "How are mime attachments coded in the message bdy by TB!, and will a filter pick this up? I don't know if this whole thing of deleting messages with .vbs attachments is the right approach. It's highly non-specific and the message body will be gone as well which may contain important material. We're already relatively safe with not using OE or LookOut. Regarding Flagging: 8 Bloat is like cholesterol, it's gotten a bad press and does clog arteries but is never-the-less necessary for human metabolism (i.e. cell wall and hormone formation, among other functions). :-) Actually it's /atherosclerosis/ that clogs arteries, the cause of which is multi-factorial. Excess cholesterol levels is just one of them. I would say bloat is more like atherosclerosis in that it's never necessary, it's insidious in build up, and it one day makes the general functioning and usability of the product poor when it reaches critical mass. :-))) Regarding a Wish List: I would still like to see a way to edit incoming mail without placing it in the outbox first, and possibly a way to add memos to the *body* of a message (the memo would be indicated by a small, clickable colored box), although I could live without the later if much coding (bloat) was involved. As is, the memo is indicated by text in the memo column of the message list. Hit SHIFTCTRLI and your memo appears. :-) Your proposed implementation is different but not particularly more convenient or functional. In fact this present implementation is better than a little simple icon-like indicator the entire memo may be visible in the memo column and just the first few words of the memo may be all that's needed at times to identify the message or what the memo is about. Also, I thought that memos were supposed to reduce the need to edit incoming messages? In my case it has actually eliminated the need but that's just me. :-/ Add an online offline button (for activating / deactivating auto downloading - although Tom Fernandez was kind enough to send a code for doing that) and an optional virtual folder column so all incoming mail could be view together on arrival if desired (or selected via the column), and I'd call TB! the ideal, current state of the art mailer. (I've already learned to hate to receive html mail for letters, and look down on those who use it). Actually, if you use the mail ticker and double click on it when new messages arrive, all messages displayed in the ticker are displayed in a virtual folder. All you have to do is enable the 'folder' column in the virtual folders message list and you'll see which folder and account each message belongs to. -- © 2000 Allie Martin | Using TB! v1.42c on Win2k Pro --- PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=GetAlliePGPKey Urghm! - "(A)bort, (R)etry, (F)orget It! " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editor Cursor Movement
On Sun, 7 May 2000 11:37:28 -0400, Fred Weissman wrote: I just upgraded to 1.42 and have found something that behaves differently than it did in prior versions. I don't want to call it a bug just yet, but I'd like to know if anyone else is experiencing it... When I'm at the bottom of the editor window typing a new message or a reply, and the line wraps, the new line doesn't scroll up in the window so I can see what I'm typing. I can still type, but all I can see is the very tip-top of the vertical cursor. In other words, the new line dips below the bottom edge of the window. I'm 99.9% certain this didn't happen in prior versions. And I've checked the 1.42 "What's New" list and I see no mention of anything having to do with scrolling. Opinions please? I experience this as well /only/ if the horizontal scroll bar is visible. I generally don't see it anyway because when editing, I generally use an editor window 90 characters wide and also, I re-wrap quoted text. The editor seems to ignore the presence of the horizontal scroll-bar and the very last line of text gets hidden behind it. -- © 2000 Allie Martin | Using TB! v1.42c on Win2k Pro --- PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=GetAlliePGPKey Urghm! - "A little inaccuracy sometimes saves tons of explanation. " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editor Cursor Movement
On 7-5-00, 17:37:28, Fred Weissman wrote: FW When I'm at the bottom of the editor window typing a new message or a FW reply, and the line wraps, the new line doesn't scroll up in the window FW so I can see what I'm typing. I can still type, but all I can see is the FW very tip-top of the vertical cursor. In other words, the new line dips FW below the bottom edge of the window. FW Opinions please? Hi Fred, I do not have this problem. Maybe upgrading to 1.42c will help. -- doeidoei, Pim Slim Pim Slim, [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sunday, May 07, 2000 18:14:59 using The Bat! 1.42c under Windows 98 build 4.10.1998 The Bat! user since April 29, 2000 "Teach a parrot the terms "supply and demand" and you've got an economist." - Thomas Carlyle __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP and Win2000 Pro
This message: 07/05/2000 11:17 GMT. Hello Lionel, On 07 May 2000 at 09:02:56 GMT +0200 (which was 08:02 where I live) Lionel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) typed: LEM Hello Tony, TB being 6.5i LEM That's because you are using the "The Bat!" plug-in, and the Version LEM of PGP is hard-coded in The Bat!. Try signing something with PGPTray, LEM you'll see. He's right ya know! -- _ Best regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tony. Using The Bat! 1.42 Under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 "The Bat! email client. Everything else is just Guano!" -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filtering / Deleting messages w/ *.vbs attachments
Hi Jason, On 07 May 2000 at 09:34:23 GMT -0700 (which was 17:34 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Filtering / Deleting messages w/ *.vbs attachments": The exact parameters were: Source folder - Inbox Move to - Inbox Filtering string - .zip - Presence Yes - Location Anywhere Alternates - (none) Action - Flag the message And it did not work! It works for received message for me when filtering on kludges because it will find the ".zip" string in the X-BAT-FILES. The caveat here is that you must not have attachments stored in the message body. -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY *--- | Using The Bat! 1.42c S/N 14F4B4B2 | under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 *--- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Import .bmf filer from Becky 2
Some time ago I had problems accessing my mail with TheBat and switched to Becky! v.2. I have since rebuild my system and reinstalled everything, both Win98SE and all the programs - and TheBat works again! The problem is now that I can't make Becky see the old folders with all my messages, so I can't export them in a UNIX-format for import back to TheBat. All the message folders are there in a .bmf format that I can read with my text editor. Any ideas how I can get them back? -- Best regards, Mogens mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Flagging?
Morning Allie, Memo's are great. They stand out starkly if used judiciously. I use them to help identify very important, specific messages which aren't evident simply by the sender or the subject. These messages can get easily lost among other flagged messages. A prime example is a products registration information. The memo not only tells you it's important but also can tell you what's important about the message. I may assign the colour red to these messages but often you don't easily know exactly what's in the message because of an inadequate subject header. Though I don't need it, my ideas of an effective high-volume mail handling would come close to the typical handling of a little relational database. Messages could be assigned a multitude of attributes which would make them automatically part of a mutitude of groups. Physical folder sorting would be only an hindrance for handling here. Virtual folders OTOH would not only be an additional feature but a requirement - in analogy to the typical "reports" of a database system. Well, if you've used a relational database you probably know what I mean and agree that there's a lot of flexibility attached to this approach esp. regarding the structuring and display of data. :-) -- .. Jast ... mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : using TB 1.42c : with AMD K6-2, 64MB RAM :. on Windows 98 4.10 A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Filtering / Deleting messages w/ *.vbs attachments
Hello Allie et al TBUDLers, Sunday, May 07, 2000, 9:58:37 AM, you wrote: AM I don't know if this whole thing of deleting messages with .vbs AM attachments is the right approach. It's highly non-specific and AM the message body will be gone as well which may contain AM important material. We're already relatively safe with not using AM OE or LookOut. If it's in your machine and is activated you will become infected. While you may not disseminate to others, you will lose data. I am willing to lose messages that come with vbs files attached, since I can visualize no reasonable context in which I want to receive one. Regarding Flagging: Bloat is like cholesterol, it's gotten a bad press and does clog arteries but is never-the-less necessary for human metabolism (i.e. cell wall and hormone formation, among other functions). AM :-) Actually it's /atherosclerosis/ that clogs arteries, the cause of AM which is multi-factorial. Excess cholesterol levels is just one of them. OK, you're the Dr. Excess cholesterol levels is a major contributing factor to atherosclerosis, yet minimum levels of cholesterol are required for survival. AM I would say bloat is more like atherosclerosis in that it's AM never necessary, it's insidious in build up, and it one day AM makes the general functioning and usability of the product poor AM when it reaches critical mass. :-) A lot depends on your basic diet, lifestyle (inc. exercise) and assumptions - one's general approach to life, living and one's work. These make one less or more susceptible, along with genetic and other environmental factors. Regarding a Wish List: I would still like to see a way to edit incoming mail without placing it in the outbox first... AM Your proposed implementation is different but not particularly AM more convenient or functional. I have dedicated a three character wide space for my memo column, which I use only to indicate the presence of a memo and it's importance. Being more or less convenient or functional may be user dependent. AM In fact this present implementation is better than a little AM simple icon-like indicator the entire memo may be visible in the AM memo column and just the first few words of the memo may be all AM that's needed at times to identify the message or what the memo AM is about. Too wide for my needs. AM Also, I thought that memos were supposed to reduce the need to edit AM incoming messages? In my case it has actually eliminated the need but AM that's just me. :-/ They can already be edited, but not via a simple command. It's a matter of integrating existing functions. Add an online offline button (for activating / deactivating auto downloading - AM Actually, if you use the mail ticker and double click on it when AM new messages arrive, all messages displayed in the ticker are AM displayed in a virtual folder. The ticker does not suit my needs since most or many messages are never read. If it were possible to program the ticker so that it showed only messages that arrived within a given time frame, then it would be useful to me. As is, I can either turn it off for all folders or cuss the hell out of it when I'm forced to wait until it counts the thousands of unread messages that have accumulated in TB! since September of '99, when it's activated unintentionally. There is no one way to use email, and by sharing ideas we help both each other and the developers chart a map good for most who share our needs and general orientation. I'm not a MD. or a programmer, but I never-the-less take personal responsibility for both my health and my email correspondence. I use TB! for the latter, and when I need cholestectomy performed I'll look up Allie in Jamaica. Douglas -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Color groups
Hello all, on Sat, 6 May 2000, at 12:09:28 local time (GMT +0200), Oliver wrote: I like those color groups... same here, but it would be even nicer if the background color also included the 'tree' ... especially with deeply nested threads it just doesn't look 'right'. -- Rob using The Bat! 1.42c ... A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filtering / Deleting messages w/ *.vbs attachments
Morning Douglas, As is, I can either turn it off for all folders or cuss the hell out of it when I'm forced to wait until it counts the thousands of unread messages that have accumulated in TB! since September of '99, when it's activated unintentionally. You realize you can turn the ticker on and off to show only messages from individual folders? :-) -- .. Jast ... mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : using TB 1.42c : with AMD K6-2, 64MB RAM :. on Windows 98 4.10 A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Default mailer.
I'm suddenly getting a (Microsoft Outlook) message during startup of Windows, that there is no standard program fore- mail - or the present standard can't cut it (or something to that effect). It goes on to tell me to run Outlook and name it as standard e-mail. Are they nuts? Why do I get the message now? And equally important - how do I kill it? The Bat is selected as e-mail program of choice in IE , Internet Settings. -- Best regards, Mogens mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! 1.42 final
Hi Allie, On Fri, 5 May 2000 14:54:19 -0500, you wrote: Am I the first to have noticed that 1.42 Final is out? ^ What means final, no more bug fixes??? I am downloading it right now! AM That nasty compression of the executable is back. :-( And my slow and instable system if the Bat! is running is also back :-( cu, Dirk -- Using The Bat! 1.42 (S/N 12A1F196 / Educational) under Windows 95 4.0 Build B -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filtering / Deleting messages w/ *.vbs attachments
On Sun, 07 May 2000 14:33:05 -0600, Douglas Hinds wrote: If it's in your machine and is activated you will become infected. While you may not disseminate to others, you will lose data. I am willing to lose messages that come with vbs files attached, since I can visualize no reasonable context in which I want to receive one. What I meant was delete the message when you see it. Imprecise filters can perhaps do more harm that good. This is why spam filtering by exclusion and confinement works so well instead of filters that delete from the server. If it hits an innocent, it's gone forever. I have dedicated a three character wide space for my memo column, which I use only to indicate the presence of a memo and it's importance. Being more or less convenient or functional may be user dependent. What really matters is that the functionality exists. The fact that you don't use it is largely irrelevant. Others, like myself use a wider memo column than you do, therefore the initial text of large memos or entire short memos are visible. Changing this to an icon would force me to always open the memo window to see my memos as you chose to. :-) The idea is not to break existing functionality. Too wide for my needs. That's quite OK. You can easily make it thinner as you're doing now. :-) Others like me prefer it wider. The ticker does not suit my needs since most or many messages are never read. If it were possible to program the ticker so that it showed only messages that arrived within a given time frame, then it would be useful to me. As is, I can either turn it off for all folders or cuss the hell out of it when I'm forced to wait until it counts the thousands of unread messages that have accumulated in TB! since September of '99, when it's activated unintentionally. Open the ticker, right click on it and select Messages | Age Limits. What do you think of that addition? You /can/ set age limits. -- © 2000 Allie Martin | Using TB! v1.42c on Win2k Pro --- PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=GetAlliePGPKey Urghm! - "OS/2 is the operating system of the '90s - Bill Gates " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: TB! 1.42 final
Hello all, Sunday, May 07, 2000, Dirk Heiser wrote: Hi Allie, On Fri, 5 May 2000 14:54:19 -0500, you wrote: Am I the first to have noticed that 1.42 Final is out? ^ What means final, no more bug fixes??? In new betaversions, I hope. Maybe in beta of v. 2.0 I am downloading it right now! AM That nasty compression of the executable is back. :-( And my slow and instable system if the Bat! is running is also back :-( I saw uncompressed EXE file in FTP directory of Ritlabs server. Try that, it can help You. -- Bye Marek Mikus Using the best The Bat! 1.42c reg under the worst Windows 95 4.0 Build B Intel Celeron 266 MHz, 32 MB -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editor Cursor Movement
On Sun, 7 May 2000 11:37:28 -0400, Fred Weissman wrote: I just upgraded to 1.42 and have found something that behaves differently than it did in prior versions. I don't want to call it a bug just yet, but I'd like to know if anyone else is experiencing it... When I'm at the bottom of the editor window typing a new message or a reply, and the line wraps, the new line doesn't scroll up in the window so I can see what I'm typing. I can still type, but all I can see is the very tip-top of the vertical cursor. In other words, the new line dips below the bottom edge of the window. I'm 99.9% certain this didn't happen in prior versions. And I've checked the 1.42 "What's New" list and I see no mention of anything having to do with scrolling. Opinions please? I experience this as well /only/ if the horizontal scroll bar is visible. I generally don't see it anyway because when editing, I generally use an editor window 90 characters wide and also, I re-wrap quoted text. The editor seems to ignore the presence of the horizontal scroll-bar and the very last line of text gets hidden behind it. YEP That's the problem ... if the horizontal scroll-bar is visible, then the cursor and the current line drops down below. I wrap quoted text at 75 characters, but now I've spread my window out a little more and that makes the horizontal bar disappear. Thanks Allie. -- Judging from realistic simulations involving a sledge hammer and a common laboratory frog, if a huge asteroid hits the earth we can assume it will be pretty bad. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.ne.mediaone.net/phred13 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Filtering / Deleting messages w/ *.vbs attachments
Hello Allie, Sunday, May 07, 2000, 3:39:18 PM, you wrote: AM On Sun, 07 May 2000 14:33:05 -0600, Douglas Hinds wrote: I have dedicated a three character wide space for my memo column, which I use only to indicate the presence of a memo and it's importance. Being more or less convenient or functional may be user dependent. AM What really matters is that the functionality exists. The fact AM that you don't use it is largely irrelevant. I use it. AM Others, like myself use a wider memo column than you do, Than I am at the moment. What really matters is that the functionality exists. The ticker does not suit my needs since most or many messages are never read. If it were possible to program the ticker so that it showed only messages that arrived within a given time frame, then it would be useful to me. .. AM Open the ticker, right click on it and select Messages | Age AM Limits. What do you think of that addition? You /can/ set age AM limits. FFO! I had asked for that half a year ago! (That's more good news, all for the price of a free upgrade). I will start using it (but still want the virtual folder column, so I can see ALL of a message without changing folders like a chipmunk changes trees - I think they change trees sometimes). Douglas -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Filtering / Deleting messages w/ *.vbs attachments
Hello Jast, Sunday, May 07, 2000, 2:03:30 PM, you wrote in reference to my saying: As is, I can either turn it off for all folders or cuss the hell out of it when I'm forced to wait until it counts the thousands of unread messages that have accumulated in TB! since September of '99, when it's activated unintentionally. J You realize you can turn the ticker on and off to show only messages from J individual folders? :-) Yes, that's why I've turned them off at the folder level. The folders contents get way ahead of me often. But Now that I can set a time limit, I'll start using it. I set it to 1 day maximum, 1 second minimum. BUT - I have a *static*, unmoving (in spite of it's being set to faster) ribbon that says 1625 "new" messages (obviously not the number having come in within the last day) but gives me none of them. I changed it to 2 days max and the race is on. Except it only shows me the same message, over and over. I guess I'll have to set my folders for it. The ticker doesn't tell me what folder the message is in, either. But I get the account it came in on. I also see I can open the message by clicking on the ticker. Sometimes. What does autozoom do? Now I have it for the TBUDL folder, 1 day limit. But now it says there are 2,542 new messages. I can click on it, grap it, make it stop and shake it around around, like a dog with a snake. I still want a folder column so I can have them all together and at the same time, separate. (That's the spell Calypso cast on me). Douglas -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filtering / Deleting messages w/ *.vbs attachments
On Sun, 07 May 2000 20:09:28 -0600, Douglas Hinds wrote: FFO! I had asked for that half a year ago! (That's more good news, all for the price of a free upgrade). The feature has been there for quite some time. Message age limits for the ticker has been implemented since version 1.38!! I will start using it (but still want the virtual folder column, so I can see ALL of a message without changing folders like a chipmunk changes trees - I think they change trees sometimes). If you double click on the ticker, all messages will be displayed in a single virtual folder. Hey, I realize why you're not seeing this. You don't have the message list enabled. Open any message in the ticker and then in the message view window, go to View | 'Message List'. There's your virtual folder listing. Now adjust the columns to include the Folders column. This will show the account and folder where each message resides. -- © 2000 Allie Martin --- Using TB! v1.42c on Win2k Pro PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=GetAlliePGPKey Urghm! - "Never enter a battle of wits unarmed. " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Online/offline for TheBat!
Hello Chris, your question is a good one, and it may interest other new users of TB. So I am posting a copy of this on the list: TBUDL = The Bat Users' Discussion List. As you have found my originals messages, you will know that you can subscrite by sending a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you are not a subscriber yet. Now to your question: Monday, May 08, 2000, 12:15:11 AM, Chris VanHonk wrote: CV Hi Thomas, CV I'm a TB user and I have sen your name mentioned in the CV user discussion list as having the answer to the problem of CV having TB trying to download messages over a LAN while the CV network is disconnected from the Internet. An Online/Offline CV selection. I would appreciate any help that you would see CV fit to give. My LAN is always connected to the Internet (well, 6 days a week). I have the choice of connecting to the Internet via the LAN, or by seperate modem connection (when the LAN connection to the Internet is down). If the LAN's connection to the internet is down, I cannot download emails. To connect via the LAN, I go to Options/NetworkAdmin and click "Local Area Network or manual connection". Windows will do the rest (as long as you are correctly connecting to the LAN, and the LAN is connected to the internet). To connect via modem, I can either use Windows' Dial-Up connection, and not change anything in TB - this works fine when the LAN is down. Or I can change the setting under Options/NetworkAdmin to Dial-Up Networking. If this is not clear, please ask again. CV Thanks for your time :-) You are most welcome. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Say A - Say B
Hello Batmans, I'm wondering, i'm just wondering: have i missed something ? Messages List Pane becomes font and colors adjustable, so what's about Folder List ? Or may be it will be called as new radical improvement in next version of Bat ? Regards, 3AHO3A [EMAIL PROTECTED]|2:5012/18.2 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Flagging?
Hi Jast, On Sun, 7 May 2000 15:56:31 +0200GMT (07/05/2000, 21:56 +0800GMT), Jast wrote: J Alas, practically, there's already more power than I need in The Bat! I J don't think I'll even use memo's anytime soon. Same here. But while flagging, colours, and memo have something to do with email management, I wouldn't consider them as bloat, even if I don't use them. Non-email features (such as a bigger-better-more beatiful editor) are bloat. But we don't need to discuss this again, as there will be a hook for external editors in v2. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.41 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Cosmetic bug
In the address book, properties area for a contact, go to "Other" tab. Favorite is spelled incorrectly (Favourite). -- John T. Moran Blue Springs, MO Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Import .bmf filer from Becky 2
Dear Bat folk Some time ago I had problems accessing my mail with TheBat and switched to Becky! v.2. Where do you get that version ? As http://www.rimarts.co.jp/ says up to ver 1.26 Do you mean revision 2 ? -- Stephen -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Cosmetic bug
Hi John, On Sun, 7 May 2000 23:21:28 -0500GMT (08/05/2000, 12:21 +0800GMT), John T. Moran wrote: JTM In the address book, properties area for a contact, go to "Other" tab. Favorite is JTM spelled incorrectly (Favourite). It's spelled correctly, and shown in my Favourite Colour. TB is a European programme. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.42c under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Import .bmf filer from Becky 2
Hello Stephen, Monday, May 08, 2000, 6:27:19 AM, you wrote: S Dear Bat folk Some time ago I had problems accessing my mail with TheBat and switched to Becky! v.2. S Where do you get that version ? S As http://www.rimarts.co.jp/ says up to ver 1.26 Do you mean S revision 2 ? S -- S Stephen B2 is currently in public-beta is available here.. http://www.rimarts.co.jp/b2-public-beta.html Now, how about helping me? BF -- Best regards, Mogensmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
