Re: something

2002-01-03 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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SC OK, does someone have any idea why the TBUDL sends me this ?

Yes. I do.

I tried to moderate the post, which was sent in without a Subject.
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Re[2]: using other accounts to reply/fwd with when email is in another accounts inbox

2002-01-03 Thread sbsi lists

Hello Roelof,

Wednesday, January 02, 2002, 8:12:15 PM, you wrote:

RO Hello sbsi,

RO On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 18:41:26 -0600GMT (3-1-2002, 1:41 +0100GMT, where I
RO live), you wrote:

sl However, what I want to have happen is when I pick that specific
sl account, I'd like the template that it uses for FWD or REPLY or
sl whatever to be used and replace the one in my inbox which the email
sl came from.  I'm guessing that this isn't possible??

RO Why not drag the message you want process to the account with the
RO right config for the replying or whatever you want to do.

RO If you only want to use one account for replying you could create
RO filters to put the incoming mail from all accounts in the inbox of the
RO main account?


Thanks Roelof.  This looks like the best way so far.  I was hoping not
to do this but it's not too big a deal either. The %ACCOUNT deal was a
good idea as well but it didn't do exactly what I wanted.

So, I'm moving all messages to this account and then will be able to
use the template the way I want to use it.  Anyway, appreciate all the
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Re[2]: using other accounts to reply/fwd with when email is in another accounts inbox

2002-01-03 Thread sbsi lists

Hello Eddie,

Thursday, January 03, 2002, 12:23:47 AM, you wrote:

EC Dear Jason,

EC  --- sbsi lists / Donnerstag, 03.01.2002, 01:41:26
EC using other accounts to reply/fwd with when email is in another accounts 
inbox


 Actually, that does teach me something (i like that shortcut!)
 however that doesn't do what I want to do. I was achieving that same
 thing by going up to OPTIONS-ACTIVE ACCOUNT- choosing whatever
 acct -- so, i was figuring that out ok. 

 However, what I want to have happen is when I pick that specific
 account, I'd like the template that it uses for FWD or REPLY or
 whatever to be used and replace the one in my inbox which the email
 came from. I'm guessing that this isn't possible??

EC If I'm not mistaken starting from TB! Version 1.54b19 you can use
EC %IF-Statements. I'm wondering if this could help you setting up your
EC Folder-/Address book Templates.
EC Just a thought: if normal Templates don't work try using QT (Quick
EC Templates).


Thanks Eddie but I haven't upgraded to the 1.54b19 version yet - still
running the 1.53d (i just started using this yesterday!).  But, I'll
look at that and see if it will work.


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Re[2]: using other accounts to reply/fwd with when email is in another accounts inbox

2002-01-03 Thread sbsi lists

Hello Dierk,

Thursday, January 03, 2002, 3:23:42 AM, you wrote:

DH Hello sbsi!

DH On 3 Jan 2002 at 01:41:26 you wrote:

 However, what I want to have happen is when I pick that specific
 account, I'd like the template that it uses for FWD or REPLY or
 whatever to be used and replace the one in my inbox which the email
 came from.  I'm guessing that this isn't possible??

DH Yes, it is. Just change the account *before* you change anything in
DH the message (body).

DH I am quite sure, you have first composed your mail and then tried to
DH change the account as the other way round it does work.


Thanks Dierk but I can't figure this one out.  Where do you change the
account *before* hitting 'reply'??  I've looked all over and I'm sure
it's simple but I can't find a way to do that.  The only way I've seen
to do this is when replying (or new message etc...) to a message and
you can right-mouse click on the status bar and change your account or
going up to OPTIONS and picking it there...or using the FROM field.

Can you tell me where to change the account when in another one?



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Re[2]: Replication

2002-01-03 Thread Joe Finocchiaro

Wednesday, January 02, 2002, 6:23:57 PM, you wrote:

[...]
JF Okay, after that, does it matter which system becomes the master?

 No.

JF E.g., say I will normally use the notebook as my everyday computer.
JF Then, say, for reasons of convenience, I use the desktop to download
JF some e-mail (and maybe add a new folder) without first synchronizing
JF it with the notebook.

 It doesn't matter. You only have to synchronise once. The
 synchronisation process doesn't delete mail. It merely adds mail,
 folders and settings from the source system that aren't present in the
 target system.

Hmmnn.

JF How would I get the two systems synchronized again?

 If both installations have mail that the other doesn't have and you
 really wish for one to be a replica of the other then you'd have to
 synchronise twice, in both directions.

Okay, I think I understand that part.

JF Or would I be out of luck in that case?

JF Does it work in the same manner as the synchronization process that
JF goes on between my Palm Pilot and my computer?  I.e., I press the
JF Sync button on the cradle and the program figures out which
JF information belongs on each device to bring them both up-to-date with
JF each other?

JF How about a step-by-step tutorial?

 Alright.

 Say you've been using the laptop for a while and wish to switch to
 using the desktop. You wish to update the desktops TB! installation so
 that the templates and mail folders will be like the laptops. You'd do
 the following:

 a) On the desktop, start the synchronisation panel and run step 1.
 What this does is create a snapshot of the settings and mail folder
 structure/content, present in the desktop installation.

 Copy the file generated during this process to a zip disk.

 b) On the laptop installation, open the synchronisation panel and
 select step 2. In this step the laptop installation is compared with
 that of the desktop using the file on the zip disk. You'll therefore
 be prompted for this file.

Okay, I think I understand that.

 It will generate another file. This one will contain all the
 restoration data to update the desktop installation to be like the
 laptop installation. You'll be asked to enter a file name of your
 choice for this restoration file etc.

And here's where I'm having some trouble.

 When you're finished, save this new file to a zip disk and go back to
 the desktop.

 c) On the desktop, run step 3 in the synchronisation panel.

 It will ask you for the restoration file that you generated on the
 laptop in step 2. It will now use the data in that file to update the
 desktop installation.

 You're done!!

I'll say.  And ready for the funny-farm as well.

It surely isn't as easy as the sync function for the PDA/desktop.

 Clear as mud?? :-)

Not exactly.

:(

But you explained it *much* better than the Help file did.  I suppose
I'm just going to have to do it a few times to get the hang of it,
which is a frightening thought for someone who's had the computer
problems that I've had recently.

It's more complicated than I thought.  I was hoping it would be about
as dumb-proof as doing a backup/restore.

Even *I* was able do that one.

:-D

I may have to go to plan B, which would be to never use the desktop
version of TB! without first synchronizing it with the notebook.

Thanks again for the walk-through, Allie!

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(2nd try) SOT: TB! compatible eMail Client under WinCE 2000

2002-01-03 Thread Eddie Castelli

Dear readers from 'TB!udl List',

Probably other subject have being more interesting but I just give it
an other try ...


 -- Happy New Year to all

Please excuse when I miss to choose the right Discussion List.

I'm using beside a Notebook also a Handheld-PC (don't confuse it with
Organizer) under WinCE 2000 (also known as WinCe v3.0). Have a look at
the Picture here:
http://home.intermec.com/eprise/main/Intermec/Content/Products/Products_ShowDetail?section=ProductsProduct=CMPTR6651Category=CMPTRFamily=CMPTR2

As TB! is not running under WinCE - and will not in the future
according to Ritlabs - I'm looking for a versatile eMail Client that
offers me also the capability of multi Account Management.

Does anybody have experience with CE SW? Any suggestions are welcomed.

Thank you!


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Re: Shift+Spacebar

2002-01-03 Thread David van Zuijlekom

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On 3 Jan 2002 at 20:11:16 +0100, Avenarius [A] wrote concerning
'Shift+Spacebar':
...
A please enable SHIFT+SPACEBAR as the reverse action of SPACEBAR.

Seconded! ;-)

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Re: Replication

2002-01-03 Thread Allie C Martin

On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 11:39:56 -0600, Joe Finocchiaro [JF] graced us with
these comments:
...
 a) On the desktop, start the synchronisation panel and run step 1.
 What this does is create a snapshot of the settings and mail folder
 structure/content, present in the desktop installation.

 Copy the file generated during this process to a zip disk.

 b) On the laptop installation, open the synchronisation panel and
 select step 2. In this step the laptop installation is compared with
 that of the desktop using the file on the zip disk. You'll therefore
 be prompted for this file.

JF Okay, I think I understand that.

 It will generate another file. This one will contain all the
 restoration data to update the desktop installation to be like the
 laptop installation. You'll be asked to enter a file name of your
 choice for this restoration file etc.

JF And here's where I'm having some trouble.

Let's consider for a moment what's being done and then read the steps
again.

You wish to efficiently make the desktop TB! installation have all the
mail, folders, accounts, templates and new settings that the laptop
installation has.

The laptop installation will have to be the source of the update
information. However, it needs to know what is already on the desktop
installation so that it will provide only what the desktop needs and
nothing more to synchronise it. The file that you generate by running
step 1 on the desktop, contains this necessary information.

In step 2, the laptop takes the file generated in strep 1, the file
containing data about the desktop TB! installation, and analyses it.
From this analysis, it will prepare a new file. This 'update' file
will contain the necessary data to synchronise the desktop
installation to have all that the laptop installation has.

Step 3 is just the final synchronisation process. You point the
desktop system to the update file which it then uses to update its
installation.

Analogy of what the steps are like:

Allie:
Hey Joe, I need to have a desktop system just like
yours. However, I already have one and it would be better if I
just modified this one as needed, instead of going out and
getting a whole new one.

Joe:
Well, what do you already have in your system? If you tell me
this then I can just tell you what you need to do.

Allie: (Step1)
Ok. I have a PIII 700Mhz with 128MB of RAM on an IWill
motherboard. I also have a Sound Blaster Live an NVidia
GeForce2 MX video with 32 MB of RAM etc.

Joe: (Step 2)
Hey, I got your message. All you really need to do is change
the motherboard to an Intel model #xxx and upgrade your RAM
to 384 MB and you'll be just like me.

Allie: (step 3)
I got you on that. I went out and got the board, the RAM, and
installed them without a hitch. Everything is running fine as
you promised it would be. It was really a hardware problem
afterall.

JF It surely isn't as easy as the sync function for the PDA/desktop.

Nope. The PDA sync function is started and completed with the press of
a button. :-)

 Clear as mud?? :-)

JF Not exactly.

Hopefully, this additional explanation will make things clearer so
that you will feel comfortable to try it again.

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could someone help me?

2002-01-03 Thread pop-ne

Hi all,

I've deleted a full folder by mistake and I don't know if there is a
way to recover all deleted messages (around 1800!). Trash folder is
empty :-(

Many thanks in advance

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Re: Shift+Spacebar

2002-01-03 Thread Pete

Hello Avenarius,

3 Jan 2002, 21:11:16, you wrote:

A Here's a New Year's TB! feature wish (easy to fulfil!) that's been
A bogging me for a long time:

A please enable SHIFT+SPACEBAR as the reverse action of SPACEBAR.

Seconded!!

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Re: could someone help me?

2002-01-03 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Pop-ne,

On 3 Jan 2002 at 21:12:01 you wrote (at least in part):

pn Hi all,

pn I've deleted a full folder by mistake and I don't know if there is a
pn way to recover all deleted messages (around 1800!). Trash folder is
pn empty :-(

I assume you deleted it within TB!?
If so and it is not yet physically deleted from your harddrive by your
request try using the undocumented short cut

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+L

with focus in preview pane on folder tree, the folder directly above
the one about to recover.
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Re: using other accounts to reply/fwd with when email is in another accounts inbox

2002-01-03 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello sbsi!

On 3 Jan 2002 at 16:55:13 you wrote:

DH Yes, it is. Just change the account *before* you change anything in
DH the message (body).

DH I am quite sure, you have first composed your mail and then tried to
DH change the account as the other way round it does work.


 Thanks Dierk but I can't figure this one out.  Where do you change the
 account *before* hitting 'reply'??

Not before you hit Reply but before you do anything in the reply
message (see above). When you have entered anything in the message
body TB! assumes - correctly, I might add - that you don't want to
lose your changes through invoking a template; so it won't invoke
any templates when you now change the account.

Step by step:

1. Hit reply.
2. Go to Options and change the account.
3. Put the cursor into the message body.

You now should have the default template from the chosen account with
the header info from that account. If you don't have that, another
template (individual, group or folder) may have kicked in.

I have set up some QT's I especially use for business mass mailings
with the %ACCOUNT macro to avoid any incorrect header info
(particularly my address). They work like a charm. Also the manual way
works when I have to use it - as long as I haven't entered text into
the message body.




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TBUDL List Message Sorting / Filtering Question

2002-01-03 Thread Jim Riccardi, Jr.

Hi, All!!  OK... can someone tell me an easy way to manually or thru a
filter, move all TBUDL messages to a folder?  The other lists I
subscribe to have something in the SUBJECT field like [listname] so
when I sort my messages by subject, all the messages from each of the
lists are together.  With them, I can ALT-click on the TO field and
grab them all  move them.  I can't do that with TB list messages,
because even the TO field has many different values - the actual value
of [EMAIL PROTECTED] is in  and does not work when I use it
in View / Display / Advanced Filtering / Header / The Recipient's
Name, nor is there an option to use the REPLY-TO field for advancd
filtering.  I vaguely remember asking earlier this year about
having the SUBJECT field modification done here and being told that it wasn't going to 
change.
So now, I want to move all the list messages to a specific folder, but
I don't want an automatic filter to execute - I want to run it
manually - but have not been successful yet.  Moving them manually is
getting too tiresome.  Any help is really appreciated.  Thanx!

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Re: TBUDL List Message Sorting / Filtering Question

2002-01-03 Thread Melissa Reese

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 Hi, All!! OK... can someone tell me an easy way to manually or thru
 a filter, move all TBUDL messages to a folder?

Hello Jim,

In the Incoming filter rules, I create a rule like this...

Strings:  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Location:  Kludges

Presence:  Yes

And just direct all messages to the desired folder.

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Re: TBUDL List Message Sorting / Filtering Question

2002-01-03 Thread Geoff Lane

Thursday, January 03, 2002, 7:41:56 PM, Jim Riccardi, Jr. wrote:

 Hi, All!!  OK... can someone tell me an easy way to manually or thru a
 filter, move all TBUDL messages to a folder?
---

Here's the filter specification that I got in the welcome message when
I joined the list:

[ QUOTED MATERIAL ]==
It  would  probably  be a good idea for you to set up a folder to keep
TBUDL messages in. If you do this, the next most useful thing to have
in place is an automatic filter to move mail from your inbox into your
TBUDL folder.

Set up a filter for incoming mail which looks for 
Strings   LocationPresence
Reply-to: TBUDL   Kludges Yes

=[ END QUOTATION ]===

This works for me.

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Re: using other accounts to reply/fwd with when email is in another accounts inbox

2002-01-03 Thread Carsten Thnges

Hi Dierk,

[ using another account when replying ]

DH 1. Hit reply.
DH 2. Go to Options and change the account.
DH 3. Put the cursor into the message body.

DH You now should have the default template from the chosen account with
DH the header info from that account. If you don't have that, another
DH template (individual, group or folder) may have kicked in.

No *huh*, that's not true here on v1.54 beta 22. Template doesn't
change to the other account's default (or any other) template.
Quotestyle and some other settings (not the privacy settings) change
but _not_ the template itself.

I'm a little confused as the behavior you describe is exactly what I
expected to happen when switching to another account.

DH I have set up some QT's I especially use for business mass mailings
DH with the %ACCOUNT macro to avoid any incorrect header info
DH (particularly my address). They work like a charm.

Okay, with QTs. But manually?

DH Also the manual way works when I have to use it - as long as I
DH haven't entered text into the message body.

Could you please check it again ;-) it doesn't work here. *hmmm*

(don't know if this is a beta issue... you, Dierk, use the same
version as I do)

BTW it works very well when you modify the _TO:_ field.
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Re: TBUDL List Message Sorting / Filtering Question

2002-01-03 Thread Thomas F

Hi Ottar,

On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 23:24:39 +0100GMT (04/01/2002, 06:24 +0800GMT),
Ottar Grimstad wrote:

OG   I filter for Reply-to: TBUDL in kludges. And i guess that if you
OG   tick the box Manual only, the filter will only be executed when you
OG   start the filter manually (I do not have any manual filters, so I
OG   have not tried this)?

That is correct (I test all filters manually), but it is much more
convenient to fitler automatically. ;-)

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Re: using other accounts to reply/fwd with when email is in another accounts inbox

2002-01-03 Thread Thomas F

Hi Carsten,

On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 00:24:24 +0100GMT (04/01/2002, 07:24 +0800GMT),
Carsten Thönges wrote:

DH 1. Hit reply.
DH 2. Go to Options and change the account.
DH 3. Put the cursor into the message body.

DH You now should have the default template from the chosen account with
DH the header info from that account. If you don't have that, another
DH template (individual, group or folder) may have kicked in.

CT No *huh*, that's not true here on v1.54 beta 22.

Then this is a beta bug, because I use the technique described by
Dierk regularly up to and including 1.53t.

CT BTW it works very well when you modify the _TO:_ field.

No, this will only modify the TO address. How about Reply-To? And
which Outbox is being used?

For those addresses that are not in the AB, I use account templates.
When I switch accounts as described by Dierk, the new account
templates are being used, and the Reply-To is set anew, and the Outbox
of the newly-chosen account is used. This is what the original poster
wanted.

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Usenet?

2002-01-03 Thread Alan Poulton

Oh neat.. OT: I just used the %TO macro to autofill in the To: field.
I'm so proud of me.

Anyway.. that's not the point of this message. I just want to know if
it's possible to use TB! to use Usenet. I don't think it IS possible, as
it's not in the Help files. But I ask because this OutPost Firewall has
a predefined Rule for The Bat! that says that TB! is allowed to access
NNTP servers ... so, if there is a way, how?  If there isn't, would it
be a worthwhile feature suggestion? =]

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Re: Usenet?

2002-01-03 Thread Thomas F

Hi Alan,

On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 19:51:54 -0800GMT (04/01/2002, 11:51 +0800GMT),
Alan Poulton wrote:

AP Oh neat.. OT: I just used the %TO macro to autofill in the To: field.
AP I'm so proud of me.

Great stuff! :-)

AP Anyway.. that's not the point of this message. I just want to know if
AP it's possible to use TB! to use Usenet. I don't think it IS possible,

Not yet anyway.

AP as it's not in the Help files. But I ask because this OutPost
AP Firewall has a predefined Rule for The Bat! that says that TB! is
AP allowed to access NNTP servers ... so, if there is a way, how? If
AP there isn't, would it be a worthwhile feature suggestion? =]

The developers have already confirmed that they are writing a plug-in
for newsreading. This is eagerly awaited by many. Glad to hear that
OutPost already takes this into consideration.

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