Re: The Bat program will not close.

2002-03-22 Thread Alain de Gevigney

Hello Ken,

On Thursday, March 21, 2002 at 02:14, Roelof Otten wrote you:

RO Hello Ken,

RO On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 16:20:46 -0800GMT (21-3-02, 1:20 +0100GMT, where I
RO live), you wrote:

KM  OK, that's starting to sound better to me, now what do I do about it?
KM  I  know when I tried to import the Outlook address book things didn't
KM  go very good.

RO Try to import from Outlook without the birthdays.
Exactly, here is an extract from the message mentioned:

,- [ msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
| We found the answer -- I thought I would post it here just to
| have it on the record!
| 
| When my coworker imported Outlook's AB, he matched the birthdate
| field. However, during the import, if Outlook's birthdate field
| was empty, the import converted it to a string of zero's, which
| is not a valid date string. Deleting all the address book entries
| and re-importing (without the birthdate field) fixed the problem.
`-


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Help on %IF

2002-03-22 Thread Krall Ed-P27726


I have a scripting question.  I will admit that I am not very
familiar with Perl and its look-alikes, so I may be missing something fundamental.

I have this template for REPLIES.  I want to create a different
salutation based on the presence or non-presence of a dash ('-')
in the originator's name.

No matter what I do, the %IF always fails.  Note that in the
following I added some debug lines 

%SETPATTREGEXP='-'
-- echo the header information
-- %OFromFName
-- %OFromLName
-- pattern match
 %REGEXPBLINDMATCH='%OFromLName'
-- Did the match work?
-- %SUBPATT='0'
-- Yes it did


 %IF:%SUBPATT='0'='-':Dear %OFromLName:Hello %OFromFName 

At this point, the false branch is always used, whether or not there 
was a dash in the last name or not.

What am I missing?

Ed


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Re: Help on %IF

2002-03-22 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Krall,

On Friday, March 22, 2002 at 3:35:51 PM you wrote in
msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at
least in part):

KEP No matter what I do, the %IF always fails.  Note that in the
KEP following I added some debug lines 
[...]
KEP  %IF:%SUBPATT='0'='-':Dear %OFromLName:Hello %OFromFName 

KEP At this point, the false branch is always used, whether or not there 
KEP was a dash in the last name or not.

KEP What am I missing?

you can't encase the '%SUBPATT' into another macro without taking
'%SETPATTREGEXP' and '%REGEXPBLINDMATCH' into the same level.

What you do is (shortened macro names!):

|- %SET
|- %MATCH
|- %IF
   |- %SUB

'%SUB' has to be on same level as '%SET' and '%MATCH'.

So your solution might be:

%IF:%SETPATTREGEXP='-'%REGEXPBLINDMATCH='%OFromLName'%SUBPATT='0'='-':Dear 
%OFromLName:Hello %OFromFName 

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Re: Eudora Import

2002-03-22 Thread Kitty



Hi Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 All of my sent items have imported with HTML tags in the body of the
 document. TB! doesn't render the e-mail as html, so it shows the tags.
 I don't use HTML for e-mail. Everything that I sent was in plain text,
 so I don't know why TB! decided to add the tags.

You might check in the archives.  A couple of years ago, I move to TB
from Eudora.  I had the same problem.  As I recall, I posted about
this and several people knew what was going on...but I never found a
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Re[2]: The Bat program will not close.

2002-03-22 Thread Ken Marilyn

Hello Alain,

YOU DID IT!!! Yes I'm yelling. After two weeks of frustration you gave
me the magic answer.

I  had  gone  in  and  reentered  all my addresses and I still had the
problem.  After  I  got  your email I went in and checked each address
very  carefully.  Sure  enough  one address had a problem. I reentered
that address and the problem is gone.

Thank you very much, I think I'll by The Bat now.

KennyB
www.runnerduck.com

Friday, March 22, 2002, 5:47:22 AM, you wrote:

AdG Hello Ken,

AdG On Thursday, March 21, 2002 at 02:14, Roelof Otten wrote you:

RO Hello Ken,

RO On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 16:20:46 -0800GMT (21-3-02, 1:20 +0100GMT, where I
RO live), you wrote:

KM  OK, that's starting to sound better to me, now what do I do about it?
KM  I  know when I tried to import the Outlook address book things didn't
KM  go very good.

RO Try to import from Outlook without the birthdays.
AdG Exactly, here is an extract from the message mentioned:

AdG ,- [ msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
AdG | We found the answer -- I thought I would post it here just to
AdG | have it on the record!
AdG | 
AdG | When my coworker imported Outlook's AB, he matched the birthdate
AdG | field. However, during the import, if Outlook's birthdate field
AdG | was empty, the import converted it to a string of zero's, which
AdG | is not a valid date string. Deleting all the address book entries
AdG | and re-importing (without the birthdate field) fixed the problem.
AdG `-





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New 1.60 version ! :-)

2002-03-22 Thread Eric Malausséna

Hi ,

The Bat! 1.60 is released and available on the site :
http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/download.html

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Re: New 1.60 version ! :-)

2002-03-22 Thread Charles Collinson


gvantass,

Registration is as long as the 1.xx versions. So, yes, your registration will
remain valid.

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Re: New 1.60 version ! :-)

2002-03-22 Thread Luc

It was foretold that on 22-3-2002 @ 20:38:19 GMT+ (which was 21:38
where I live) Charles Collinson wrote and spread these wise comments
on New 1.60 version !   :-):


CC Registration is as long as the 1.xx versions. So, yes, your registration will
CC remain valid.

 Do you have to register again manually or does it pick up the
 registration automatically? I guess the first option, because it didn't
 work with me. Also, TB!  gave an error message because  after
 installing there are two inboxes: the previous and a new one called
 inbox - known. That seems to cause a conflict.

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Re: Problem Filtering for non-English characters

2002-03-22 Thread Peter Meyns

On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 08:35:53 +0100GMT (which was 21.03.02, 08:35 +0100GMT
where I live), Jernej Simoni wrote this about Problem Filtering for non-English 
characters:

JS I don't really understand from your text, how you see  - as ^c or as
JS 'e (your text shows ^c here, see attached image). The correct is ^c...

Hi Jernej,

I do. Here the c (what was it? carbonated? ;-) ) appears as an e with an
accent grave...

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RE: New 1.60 version ! :-)

2002-03-22 Thread gvantass

Oh, good!  Thank you for the clarification!

Much obliged!

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gvantass,

Registration is as long as the 1.xx versions. So, yes, your registration will
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RE: New 1.60 version ! :-)

2002-03-22 Thread gvantass

Does this mean that my recently-purchased registration key will or will NOT 
work for this new version?

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Hi ,

The Bat! 1.60 is released and available on the site :
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Re: New 1.60 version ! :-)

2002-03-22 Thread ETM

I also have the new inbox although it is empty.  I had a lockup
and don't know if it was connected to the installation of the new
version.  I shut down and it appears to be okay now (with the new
inbox).  My previous registration number is in the new version.

This is out of beta status, is that correct?

Elaine (who doesn't have the wits to be a beta tester)

Hello Luc

On Friday, March 22, 2002, you wrote

CC Registration is as long as the 1.xx versions. So, yes, your registration will
CC remain valid.

  Do you have to register again manually or does it pick up the
  registration automatically? I guess the first option, because it didn't
  work with me. Also, TB!  gave an error message because  after
  installing there are two inboxes: the previous and a new one called
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Re: New 1.60 version ! :-)

2002-03-22 Thread John Rainer

Friday, March 22, 2002, 7:51:49 PM, you wrote:

EM Hi ,

EM The Bat! 1.60 is released and available on the site :
EM http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/download.html


Do I have the first bug or is this a feature? I launch The Bat from a
shortcut on the quicklaunch bar in XP Pro (using 'classic' layout),
with The Bat set to run maximised. When I do this with 1.6 the whole
task bar disappears, leaving a gap at the bottom of the screen, and I
get some really wierd screen corruption when alt-tabbing between apps.
When launched from a shortcut elsewhere, it seems to be ok.

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Re: New 1.60 version ! :-)

2002-03-22 Thread Roel

Hi John

On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 20:56:59 +GMT
   (which was 22/03/2002, 21:56 +0100GMT for me),
you wrote:

JR Do I have the first bug or is this a feature? I launch The Bat from a
JR shortcut on the quicklaunch bar in XP Pro (using 'classic' layout),
JR with The Bat set to run maximised. When I do this with 1.6 the whole
JR task bar disappears, leaving a gap at the bottom of the screen, and I
JR get some really wierd screen corruption when alt-tabbing between apps.
JR When launched from a shortcut elsewhere, it seems to be ok.

It's a small bug (I have the same problem...)
workaround: set your shortcut to 'normal window' and everything works
fine...

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Re: New 1.60 version ! :-)

2002-03-22 Thread Charles Collinson


Luc,

Not sure, as I was using a beta version previous to this install. Sounds
like they might want to re-visit the install routine. The betas were just
exe file replacements. I'll await those more knowledgeable about The Bat to
respond. It might be worth deleting your old EXE file just before install -
wild guess here for sure :)

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Re[3]: New 1.60 version ! :-)

2002-03-22 Thread Marcus Ohlström


On Friday, March 22, 2002, 22:15, you wrote:

 Is The Bat written in Delphi? We have a program at work that is, and
 it also has some strange behaviour when run via the quicklaunch bar
 in NT4.

Yes, Delphi 6.

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Re: New 1.60 version ! :-)

2002-03-22 Thread Ottar Grimstad

Hello ETM,

Friday, March 22, 2002, 9:57:25 PM, you wrote to TBUDL:

E I also have the new inbox although it is empty.

Bat 1.6 comes with a new filter calles known. If you activate this
filter, it filters mail from senders that you have in your addressbook
into your Inbox - known. You can select whick addressbooks or gorups
you want this to be active for.

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Re: New 1.60 version ! :-)

2002-03-22 Thread Luc

It was foretold that on 22-3-2002 @ 21:00:00 GMT+ (which was 22:00
where I live) Charles Collinson wrote and spread these wise comments
on New 1.60 version !   :-):

snipped a bit

CC It might be worth deleting your old EXE file just before install -
CC wild guess here for sure :)

 According to Ritlab, it's supposed to be installed over the old
 version, which i did (after copying the TB! folder ofcourse ;-))

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Re[2]: New 1.60 version ! :-)

2002-03-22 Thread John Rainer

Friday, March 22, 2002, 9:00:41 PM, you wrote:

R Hi John

R On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 20:56:59 +GMT
R(which was 22/03/2002, 21:56 +0100GMT for me),
R you wrote:

JR Do I have the first bug or is this a feature? I launch The Bat from a
JR shortcut on the quicklaunch bar in XP Pro (using 'classic' layout),
JR with The Bat set to run maximised. When I do this with 1.6 the whole
JR task bar disappears, leaving a gap at the bottom of the screen, and I
JR get some really wierd screen corruption when alt-tabbing between apps.
JR When launched from a shortcut elsewhere, it seems to be ok.

R It's a small bug (I have the same problem...)
R workaround: set your shortcut to 'normal window' and everything works
R fine...

Hi Roel,

After doing that, it still runs maximised but with no missing task
bar. Is The Bat written in Delphi? We have a program at work that is,
and it also has some strange behaviour when run via the quicklaunch
bar in NT4.

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Re: New 1.60 version ! :-)

2002-03-22 Thread Ottar Grimstad

Hello Luc,

Friday, March 22, 2002, 9:47:24 PM, you wrote to TBUDL:

L  Do you have to register again manually or does it pick up the
L  registration automatically?

It picks up all of your settings - including registration information.
Worked flawlessly for me.

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Re: New 1.60 version ! :-)

2002-03-22 Thread Jernej Simonèiè

Hello gvantass,

22. marec 2002, 21:28:57, you wrote:

 Does this mean that my recently-purchased registration key will or will NOT 
 work for this new version?

Why shouldn't it? Mine works, and it's almost a year since I purchased
it.

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Re: Problem Filtering for non-English characters

2002-03-22 Thread Jernej Simoni

Hello Peter,

22. marec 2002, 21:47:29, you wrote:

PM I do. Here the c (what was it? carbonated? ;-) ) appears as an e with an
PM accent grave...

Well, that's wrong display. It should appear as in body (Simon^ci^c,
flip the ^'s).

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Re: New 1.60 version ! :-)

2002-03-22 Thread Luc

It was foretold that on 22-3-2002 @ 22:34:38 GMT+0100 (which was 22:34
where I live) Ottar Grimstad wrote and spread these wise comments on
New 1.60 version !   :-):

Ottar It picks up all of your settings - including registration information.
Ottar Worked flawlessly for me.

 I had to add it manually again, but now it's okay :-)

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Re: New 1.60 version ! :-)

2002-03-22 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Charles!

On Friday, March 22, 2002 at 10:00:00 PM you wrote:

 Not sure, as I was using a beta version previous to this install. Sounds
 like they might want to re-visit the install routine. The betas were just
 exe file replacements. I'll await those more knowledgeable about The Bat to
 respond. It might be worth deleting your old EXE file just before install -
 wild guess here for sure :)

Have you at least tried to run the installer over the existing
installation?

I did - as I wanted to have all possible changes (incl. the Readme) -
a full install with the official release. And as always I didn't have
to re-register. Everything was detected automatically.


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Re[2]: New 1.60 version ! :-)

2002-03-22 Thread Yuki Taga

Saturday, March 23, 2002, 5:57:25 AM, ETM wrote:

E This is out of beta status, is that correct?

E Elaine (who doesn't have the wits to be a beta tester)

From the standpoint of 'you're not going to have any show-stopping
problems with your basic mail functions', I think it's out of beta,
and has been for some time. But since it's a 'silent' release for the
time being, I would suspect there might be a 'bis' version later to
fix niggling little things that are bugs to some, yet are unnoticed
by others.

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New 1.60 version: bug?

2002-03-22 Thread Luc

Hi list,

  after installing TB! 1.60 over my previous (1.53d) when i receive
  mail and click on the appropriate folder i get the following error:
  a new component named mNewQT_QT_DEFB12FF already exists. When i
  click OK, i can open the folder without problems.

  This occurs with some folders, but not with all of them.

  Is this a bug, has anyone else this problem...?

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Re: New 1.60 version: bug?

2002-03-22 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Luc,

On Friday, March 22 2002 at 03:59 PM PDT, you wrote:

  This occurs with some folders, but not with all of them.
 
   Is this a bug, has anyone else this problem...?

This sounds more like a QT duplication error on your part than anything
else. Do you have a Quick Template in use named mNewQT_QT_DEFB12FF?


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Re: New 1.60 version: bug?

2002-03-22 Thread Luc

It was foretold that on 23-3-2002 @ 16:30:08 GMT-0800 (which was 1:30
where I live) Nick Andriash wrote and spread these wise comments on
New 1.60 version: bug?:

Nick This sounds more like a QT duplication error on your part than anything
Nick else. Do you have a Quick Template in use named mNewQT_QT_DEFB12FF?

 That was my first thought also, looking at the QT error, but i
 don't have a QT named that way.

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Re: New 1.60 version: bug?

2002-03-22 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Luc,

On Friday, March 22 2002 at 04:42 PM PDT, you wrote:

 That was my first thought also, looking at the QT error, but i
  don't have a QT named that way.

No, but it may be filed that way for some reason. Try doing a search for
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Re: New 1.60 version: bug?

2002-03-22 Thread Luc

It was foretold that on 23-3-2002 @ 16:48:19 GMT-0800 (which was 1:48
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New 1.60 version: bug?:

NA No, but it may be filed that way for some reason. Try doing a search for
NA it and see what you come up with.

 Nothing: did a search and came up with only the messages wherein the
 text comes up. Could this by some strange effect has to do with the
 fact that i have a backup of TB! in another folder and directory
 (made it before i installed the 1.60) ?

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Whats going on with

2002-03-22 Thread Phillip Finckler

Hello All,

Does anyone know what is going on with ritlabs?  No one seems to be
responding to emails and I can't get anyone by phone.  It seems that
they may have moved locations.

I ordered a new password about a week ago but have not heard anything
back from them.  It would not be that big a deal but I have 10 days
left of the trial version then I am dead in the water.

Are they still in business?


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Re: Whats going on with

2002-03-22 Thread Gene Gough



Very much so.  They are very active in the beta forum.

Try contacting Stefan Tanurkov [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (RIT Research Labs)



Friday, March 22, 2002, 8:29:43 PM, you wrote:

PF Hello All,

PF Does anyone know what is going on with ritlabs?  No one seems to be
PF responding to emails and I can't get anyone by phone.  It seems that
PF they may have moved locations.

PF I ordered a new password about a week ago but have not heard anything
PF back from them.  It would not be that big a deal but I have 10 days
PF left of the trial version then I am dead in the water.

PF Are they still in business?





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v1.6 won't load on pc

2002-03-22 Thread Terry McDill

Hello TBUDL,

  I tried running the new version of the Bat v1.60, but the program
  fails to load. Specifically, I see the splash screen, but then
  nothing.

  My hardware is a dual processor AMD 2.0 Ghz. I have tried dual
  booting from Win 2000 to Win XP Pro, but the problem persists.

  I was wondering if anyone else has seen this issue.
  

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Re: v1.6 won't load on pc

2002-03-22 Thread Roel

Hi Terry

On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 20:28:18 -0600GMT
   (which was 23/03/2002, 3:28 +0100GMT for me),
you wrote:

TM AMD 2.0 Ghz

Now that doesn't exist yet :-)
you mean two 2000+ processors (which run at 1.66MHz)?

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Re: New 1.60 version: bug?

2002-03-22 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Luc,

On Friday, March 22 2002 at 05:26 PM PDT, you wrote:

 Nothing: did a search and came up with only the messages wherein the
 text comes up. Could this by some strange effect has to do with the
 fact that i have a backup of TB! in another folder and directory
 (made it before i installed the 1.60) ?

I never used QT's but it sure sounds as if you have a Folder or Account
Level Template that is somehow calling for a QT... if that is the correct
vernacular... to be employed, but it has already been deployed. Does that
make any sense? Look at all your QT's as I'm sure that is where the answer
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Re: New 1.60 version: bug?

2002-03-22 Thread Luc

It was foretold that on 23-3-2002 @ 19:34:14 GMT-0800 (which was 4:34
where I live) Nick Andriash wrote and spread these wise comments on
New 1.60 version: bug?:

NA I never used QT's but it sure sounds as if you have a Folder or Account
NA Level Template that is somehow calling for a QT... if that is the correct
NA vernacular... to be employed, but it has already been deployed. Does that
NA make any sense? Look at all your QT's as I'm sure that is where the answer
NA lies. 

 Well, i haven't detected anything strange with them, and why would
 they be acting this way after having them for a long time now without
 any problems?

 It seems that it's random generated, is i sometimes don't have the
 problem, sometimes in a few folders, sometimes in only one,...

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Re: New 1.60 version ! :-)

2002-03-22 Thread ETM

I can honestly say that I installed this version earlier today,
have worked with it all day, and while I am looking at different
menu placement, it has worked (after the initial lockup) without
one moment's problem.  In that time I have probably downloaded
about 1,000 emails.

Now, on to play some with the new inbox-known filter.  In the meantime,
all my filters and folders and some newly created sub-folders are
functioning perfectly.

Elaine

Hello Yuki

On Friday, March 22, 2002, you wrote

 From the standpoint of 'you're not going to have any show-stopping
 problems with your basic mail functions', I think it's out of beta,
 and has been for some time. But since it's a 'silent' release for the
 time being, I would suspect there might be a 'bis' version later to
 fix niggling little things that are bugs to some, yet are unnoticed
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Re: New 1.60 version: bug?

2002-03-22 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Luc,

On Friday, March 22 2002 at 07:46 PM PDT, you wrote:

  Well, i haven't detected anything strange with them, and why would
  they be acting this way after having them for a long time now without
  any problems?

I thought you mentioned that you had two copies of TB installed, but after
re-reading your message I see I misread where you said you had only a
backup of TB on your HDD. 

Sorry Luc... if your error doesn't exist within your existing QT's I don't
know what to suggest. I'm sure someone in the know will come up with the
answer before long.


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Re: New 1.60 version ! :-)

2002-03-22 Thread Geordon VanTassle

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EM Hi ,

EM The Bat! 1.60 is released and available on the site :
EM http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/download.html


Looks good!  Now, can someone please tell me what the menu
navigator
is good for?  Alternatively, where can I go to find out more about
the
new features in 1.60?

Very nice, though!


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Re: New 1.60 version: bug?

2002-03-22 Thread Luc

It was foretold that on 23-3-2002 @ 20:21:55 GMT-0800 (which was 5:21
where I live) Nick Andriash wrote and spread these wise comments on
New 1.60 version: bug?:

NA Sorry Luc... if your error doesn't exist within your existing QT's I don't
NA know what to suggest. I'm sure someone in the know will come up with the
NA answer before long.

 Actually, Nick, you did help me out: it was my QT's but it was a
 strange thing: i had the precisely the same QT's and in the previous
 version (obviously). One of them had the same handle and never caused
 any problems, except in this version.

 I only found it out when clicking on the QT edit button and then
 close it: it then produced the error message.

 So, you did help me out Nick !!!

 Tnx a lot

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Re: New 1.60 version ! :-)

2002-03-22 Thread Allie C Martin

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GV Looks good! Now, can someone please tell me what the menu
GV navigator is good for? Alternatively, where can I go to find out
GV more about the new features in 1.60?

Now that you've installed, take a look at the readme.txt file in the
installation directory.

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Re: New 1.60 version: bug?

2002-03-22 Thread Allie C Martin

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L Actually, Nick, you did help me out: it was my QT's but it was a
L strange thing: i had the precisely the same QT's and in the previous
L version (obviously). One of them had the same handle and never caused
L any problems, except in this version.

Hmmm. Since using TB!, I've never gotten away with giving two QT's the
same handle. TB! would always give an error and refuse to save the QT.
The same goes for address book entries with the same handle name. It's
very strange that you got away with this before. shrug

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Res change in 1.60

2002-03-22 Thread Yuki Taga

All:

When I change from 1024x768 to 800x600, and then back again, TB comes
up with a truncated folder pane, only 600 pixels tall.  Not a show
stopper for sure, but this probably should not happen when TB is not
even open during the transitions.  I did open it once in 800x600, and
that's what apparently causes the problem when I later change back.
But I closed it completely before actually resetting the resolution,
and I would expect it to open correctly in the new resolution, rather
than remembering its size (and only a part of its size at that) in
the old resolution.

With some of the betas, simply minimizing to the tray and restoring
would fix this.  However with 1.60 that doesn't work, and I have to
do a partial minimize and then maximize to get the display right.

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Re: New 1.60 version: bug?

2002-03-22 Thread Luc

It was foretold that on 23-3-2002 @ 00:06:13 GMT-0500 (which was 6:06
where I live) Allie C Martin wrote and spread these wise comments on
New 1.60 version: bug?:

ACM Hmmm. Since using TB!, I've never gotten away with giving two QT's the
ACM same handle. TB! would always give an error and refuse to save the QT.
ACM The same goes for address book entries with the same handle name. It's
ACM very strange that you got away with this before.

 My thoughts exactly. Given no error before has resulted in having the
 same handles in the first place :(

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1.60 new features

2002-03-22 Thread Geoff Lane

Using The Bat! v1.60 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6

I've just upraded and noticed that the Help doesn't describe two of
the new features; features that I would like to turn off, but am
unsure whether I can or should.

1. At the right of the titlebar, to the left of the minimise button,
   is a new button that launches the menu navigator. Although a menu
   navigator is probably a good idea, I keep clicking this button when
   I mean to minimise TB! Can I relocate the menu navigator button or
   at least remove it from the title bar?

2. I've suddenly grown a new inbox called Inbox - Known. Can I
   safely delete this inbox?

In addition, whenever I now click the Send button, TB! asks for
confirmation that I really want to send the message. Is there a way to
bypass the confirmation so that TB sends the message as soon as you
click the Send button?

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Re: 1.60 new features

2002-03-22 Thread Adam

On Saturday, March 23, 2002, 8:05:38 AM, you wrote:

GL 2.  I've  suddenly grown a new inbox called Inbox - Known. Can I
GL safely delete this inbox?

You can.

I  did  at  first  when using the Beta, but then investigating further
found  it  quite  useful.  If you use the known filter any mail from
people  in  your  address  book  goes  straight into the known folder,
anything else to the standard inbox.




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