Re: Bug with Exclusion in Filter?
Hi Thomas, On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 11:51:37 +0700, you wrote: JA MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, you filter on the bounce addresses. Another smart idea I haven't seen before. :-) Yes, I like to do things the unusual way ;) I guess you could also filter on the reply-to header, or even the path (if you wanted to get really sadistic ;)). Or you could just do some plain old filtering on the list headers. This method just ensures that I don't catch any of the items that are CC'd to me twice (one from list, and the other from sender). JA Now for my Address book item for me: JA Addresses: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JA[EMAIL PROTECTED] JA[EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] JA Now if I remove all but the top item, the filter works fine, but if I JA have the other items, the filter breaks, Let's see. If the filter works if only the first address is in your addressbook, the filter conditions and actions should be correct. The function check whether in AB seems to choke on multiple addresses in the same AB entry. Yes... that is a better way of putting it ;) But what is this: JA AddAddrItems: afiFrom, JA DelAddrItems: afiFrom, Are you adding and deleting the From address to/from the filter at the same time? Or am I reading this wrong? Not sure, but only Add Address to group is ticked, the other is not, as to why it has data in it here, I am not sure, but it doesn't seem to be affecting the filter, otherwise nothing would be added to the address book... no? -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bug with Exclusion in Filter?
Hallo Jonathan, On Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:24:48 -0500GMT (14-8-02, 20:24 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: JA Name: Jonathan Angliss JA Groups: Exemptions JA Addresses: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JA[EMAIL PROTECTED] JA[EMAIL PROTECTED] JA[EMAIL PROTECTED] JA[EMAIL PROTECTED] JA[EMAIL PROTECTED] JA[EMAIL PROTECTED] What happens if you create separate AB entries for each of your addresses? -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
PCRE websites
To tbudl, I tried to follow the link to Philip Hazel's web site that's in the online Help of TB!, but it failed to load (it may be removed permanently), so I decided to browse for additional info myself and came across some sites that may be of interest for you too: http://www.perldoc.com/perl5.6.1/pod/perlre.html http://pcre.org -- Kind regards, Heijo (currently using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 ) Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
moving TB
Hi, I'm going to be moving TB to a different computer in the next few days, would like simple, step-by-step instructions on what to do please :-) I have the install file that I originally downloaded, so I can use that to install. I want to move all my account details including filters, templates, etc, my preferences, all my saved emails etc. I'm thinking I may back up some of my older email onto CDs rather than put it *all* onto my nice, new, clean, hard drive :-) - what's the best way to go about that too? TIA -- Deborah Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: anti-spam suggestions
Hejsan! When X-Authentication-Warning: xyz.yourdomain.de: Host acc19-ppp235.mel.dialup.connect.net.au [210.10.138.235] claimed to be yahoo.com is found in the header of an email, does this mean, I can use X-Authentication-Warning for filtering SPAM? Best regards, Thorvald Neumann -- thorvald neumann | aesir media http://www.aesir.de/ [The Bat! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 3] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: anti-spam suggestions
X-Authentication-Warning for filtering SPAM? No! To see how a filter will affect you system, just do a search: Do a search (account level) for X-Authentication-Warning... ...how many messages would that affect - and are they spam? / St Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: anti-spam suggestions
Hello! Thursday, August 15, 2002, 1:00:04 PM Thorvald Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TN Hejsan! TN When TN X-Authentication-Warning: xyz.yourdomain.de: Host TN acc19-ppp235.mel.dialup.connect.net.au [210.10.138.235] claimed to TN be yahoo.com TN is found in the header of an email, does this mean, I can use TN X-Authentication-Warning for filtering SPAM? No. This header indicates that HELO string issued by the host trying to send mail through some mail server isn't equal to the RDNS name of this host. HELO string is the part of the SMTP protocol. HELOes should be presented as FQDN (fully-qualified domain name), not a hostname or domain name only. In your particular example server xyz.yourdomain.de reports that host acc19-ppp235.mel.dialup.connect.net.au (real RDNS hostname) tried to name itself as yahoo.com. It can be an attempt to fool the receiving MTA and in this case the acc19-ppp235.mel.dialup.connect.net.au host should be considered as spamhost. But there are many MUAs in the market that HELOes only the domain part of their FQDNs. So the X-Authentication-Warning header should be considered as _informational only_. -- Yours sincerely, Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) http://www.andris.msk.ru/ Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: anti-spam suggestions
Hejsan! Thursday, August 15, 2002, 11:22, St - Musaic.Net wrote: No! *sigh* OK, I am convinced... this is a bad idea... :( At the moment, too much (non-html)-spam gets by my filters... Best regards, Thorvald Neumann -- thorvald neumann | aesir media http://www.aesir.de/ [The Bat! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 3] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bug with Exclusion in Filter?
Hello Jonathan, On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 01:22:41 -0500 GMT (15/08/02, 13:22 +0700 GMT), Jonathan Angliss wrote: Let's see. If the filter works if only the first address is in your addressbook, the filter conditions and actions should be correct. The function check whether in AB seems to choke on multiple addresses in the same AB entry. JA Yes... that is a better way of putting it ;) OK, here is some info: I have a filter that checks on whether the To address is in the AB (it is an Outgoing filter, but the principale still stands), and there appears to be no problem. Are you adding and deleting the From address to/from the filter at the same time? Or am I reading this wrong? JA Not sure, but only Add Address to group is ticked, the other is JA not, as to why it has data in it here, I am not sure, but it JA doesn't seem to be affecting the filter, otherwise nothing would JA be added to the address book... no? I think it does affect the filter... If the action is not checked in your interface but it is checked when you cp the filter, we have a descrepancy that is difficult to explain without using the word bug. Before we go that far, please check again that DelAdd is not checked in your GUI, cp that filter again, and confirm that it is included in the filter as pasted. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Der erste Tag am FKK-Strand kann fuer einen jungen Mann sehr hart werden. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
template question (again!)
I have a template which won't do what I want it to do, though I think it did when I first wrote it :-/ I'm a moderator of a list which requires new members to post an intro before their membership is approved. When we receive an intro, we approve the membership forward their intro to the list. Here's my template: %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]%SUBJECT=Welcome %OFROMFNAME :-)%- %QUOTES There are two problems. One is that when I use the template it puts in *all* the text from the intro, rather than just the bit I highlighted. The second is with the subject line bit. When I use the qt, the subject will read as follows: Welcome name?:-) - except where I have that question mark, it has a symbol which looks like an equals sign turned on its side bolded. When I put my cursor in the subject field, everything except the :-) disappears, but when the email is sent, the subject line reads: Welcome name?:-) - plus anything else I typed in (again, the question mark represents the equals sign thingy). Help would be appreciated :-) TIA -- Deborah Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: template question (again!)
Hi Deborah, On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 10:49:07 +0100 GMT (Aug 15, 15:34 my local time), you [DW] wrote: DW There are two problems. One is that when I use the template it DW puts in *all* the text from the intro, rather than just the bit I DW highlighted. The second is with the subject line bit. ...snip Use the following: %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]%SUBJECT=Welcome %OFROMFNAME :-)%- %clear ^^^ %QUOTES [make sure there's a space here] -- Cheers,Sudip Pokhrel Sudip Kathmandu-NP. PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185 http://pgpkeys.mit.edu TB! v1.61 -- XP Pro 5.1 | P4-1.6GHz 256MB _.. Anyone who lives within their means suffers from a lack of imagination. - Oscar Wilde Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: template question (again!)
On Thursday, August 15, 2002, 11:06:15 AM, Sudip Pokhrel wrote: SP Use the following: SP %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]%SUBJECT=Welcome %OFROMFNAME :-)%- SP %clear ^^^ SP %QUOTES [make sure there's SP a space here] There was a space there originally, but I think it got lost because the line wrapped. Anyway, I cut pasted what you wrote, it works. Thanks. Any ideas on getting it to quote only what I have highlighted? :-) Deborah Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: anti-spam suggestions II
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hi Blarp, In a message with [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 14 Aug 2002 03:28:20 (my local time 12:28:20), you typed: B No, it's a free reporting service although there are some things you B get with a paid account. Personally, I've never seen that reporting to B Spamcop does much. Most of the big spammers are on Verio, Exodus or B some Asian ISP. Ok, if neither Mailwasher or spamcop doesn't do much, what do you suggest one should do? Not that i get much spam at all to my main account, but when/if that'd happens, do you have any tips/suggestions? - -- - -- /Krister mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This mail brought to you by The bat! V1.61, on Windows 98 4 10 build Pgp keys available here: Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=get_pgp_keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPVtxsTg5SXqDEzkLEQMOKgCfWsEiC8A5+RWSVrkEXzn6gDdtQtgAnRl+ LG3qw8uNN+sgXCLnHYRpJeKK =YV9O -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: template question (again!)
Hi Deborah, On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 11:15:53 +0100 GMT (Aug 15, 16:00 my local time), you [DW] wrote: DW Any ideas on getting it to quote only what I have highlighted? :-) I included that in my reply, i.e. add %clear macro before %quote. See below: SP %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]%SUBJECT=Welcome %OFROMFNAME :-)%- SP %clear^^^ SP %QUOTES [make sure there's SP a space here] -- Cheers,Sudip Pokhrel Sudip Kathmandu-NP. PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185 http://pgpkeys.mit.edu TB! v1.61 -- XP Pro 5.1 | P4-1.6GHz 256MB _.. Don't hate yourself in the morning - sleep till noon Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: template question (again!)
On Thursday, August 15, 2002, 11:22:14 AM, Sudip Pokhrel wrote: DW Any ideas on getting it to quote only what I have highlighted? :-) SP I included that in my reply, i.e. add %clear macro before %quote. See SP below: SP %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]%SUBJECT=Welcome %OFROMFNAME :-)%- SP %clear^^^ SP %QUOTES [make sure there's SP a space here] That bit didn't work then :-( Deborah Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The bat for linux?
Hello Brook, Sunday, August 11, 2002, 6:24:44 PM, you wrote: BH Will it ever happen? I've been using linux for many years and the only windows BH box I have collects more and more dust. I have paid for the bat but it bairly BH gets any use anymore. As I try now to switch to a Linux/UNIX platform, I give my full support to your request. I am just not sure whether The Bat! team would make such a step and distribute their program on a non-payment basis. It seems The Bat! helps these guys make their living. But... as for me (and I am sure not everyone would share my view on that), if I paid for the Windows version, I would be as willing to pay for the Linux/UNIX version as well, should there be a need for that. -- Robert mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -=Robert Beata Golovniov | Lviv, Ukraine=- ~ PGP public key: 0x633F6D07 (link 1 - embedded, link 2 - attached) Fingerprint: 1A1C 29F1 2A0C 4C4E 0BDA C8EE 5A1D 9F03 633F 6D07 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP%20KeyBody=Please%20send%20key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=GPG%20KeyBody=Please%20send%20key ~ Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: moving TB
I'm going to be moving TB to a different computer in the next few days, would like simple, step-by-step instructions on what to do please :-) I do that from time to time - I think my system is particularly big despite being private mailsystem: In total my system has close to 300 mailfolders containing approx 300 000 messages. My main system is of course at home and this is where I do all the maintenace. I have a mirror backup at my working place - and from time to time I update the rule settings etc. on the mirrored system. This is how I do it: In TB I Backup Account Properties; Address books; and Global options. I do NOT use The Bat to backup Folders with messages nor Attachments (more about that in a moment...). NOTE: Remember to click Choose and check for the addressbooks. The Bat sometimes leave your Personal Address book unchecked (!) thus backup will happen for your address book! Next I select the folder where the backup file is to be stored, and I give it a decent name - like TB20020809-1803.tbk (backup of The Bat; year 2002; month 08 (August); date 09 (9th); backup started 1803 (18:03)). Next I check for the accounts I want to back up - in my case I always do a total backup, so I check them all. I give the backup file a password - this is adviceable since your backup file will containg account properties you would like to keep for yourself - my password are always made up of a nice combination of alphanumeric chArAct3rs. When all that is done I execute the backup - the process won't take many seconds since we at this time isn't including messages. At this stage we have now done a full account(s) backup. I made a point that I do not use The Bat to backup my messages. This is partly because TB dosn't really compress well (...or? ;) and WinZIP will do it faster and better in my opinion. Before I zip the _entire_ TB-folder I'll make sure my TB backup is there too (TB20020809-1803.tbk to be found in C:\Programfiles\The Bat!\). I use the same procedure for password and naming the zipped file; ie. chArAct3rs and TB20020809-1806.zip...and then I'll go for a coffee-break :) Later I burn this entire big zipped file to a CD (NOTE: Remember to test your Zip-file before ack'ing!). After burning to CD, I test to see if all the packed files are well without errors (WinZIP and WinRAR can do this easily). Now that I have the CD finished, I can restore (update) my mail system at work very easily. Since I already have The Bat installed at both places (equal versions!), all I have to do is to do a safe backup of my Sent Mail on the workingplace installation, and then I just extract all files from the CD into The Bat's folder - any old files are overwritten - but who cares! ;) Next I restore from my backed up TB20020809-1803.tbk - and eureka - system is up! NOTE: There are a few things you must make sure in order to be able to do it this easily. 1) The Bat must be installed using an equal path on both systems; C:\Programfiles\The Bat!\ This is important so that you can be _sure_ that your mail- rules will operate correctly and find folders where they were at the other machine. Any difference here may or may not cause your mailrules to stop working correctly - it really depends on how you have configured your systems. For example, mail rules that Moves messages automatically at receiption, may suddenly stop doing that because it looks for C:\Programfiles\The Bat!\ at home, but C:\Programfiles\The Bat\ at work... :/ 2) Make sure the same The Bat version is installed on both systems. Apparently, this is important when overwriting files - including programfiles! :) 3) Sometimes (and in my case) SMTP and POP3 properties may differ on the two machines. Those you may need to give a little tweak in order to work. But there is a workaround here to: Use XRay to set up correct properties for both machines, and set the properties in The Bat (both systems) to 127.0.0.1. Regardless of which system (backup/restore) your TB will just point to that locally installed XRay - and XRay will route correctly anyway. 4) ...is there more..? ...if there is I will let you know when I remember it... ;) Hope this method works for you. / St Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: moving TB
On Thursday, August 15, 2002, 11:37:59 AM, St - Musaic.Net wrote: SMN 4) ...is there more..? I hope not! That already sounds complicated enough :-) SMN ...if there is I will let you know when I SMN remember it... ;) SMN Hope this method works for you. It sounds like it should, though I think for me it will be even easier, as I'm just doing a mass-move; I don't intend using TB on this machine again. Thanks :-) Deborah Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: anti-spam suggestions II
Hi Peter, hi list, * Peter Palmreuther (PP) writes: PP Hello Jonathan, And finally... here's what I'd like to have; a filter that will scan for spam (is there a possibility to add DNS blacklist servers ?), [...] JA TB! doesn't support using DNS Blacklists, [...] PP http://www.spampal.org.uk/ PP already does this job, not necessary to blow up an _MUA_. [...] PP BTW: SpamPal can simply TAG possible spam messages, so you can easily PP filter on that tags. Either it put them into 'Subject:' (which I don't PP like) or only adds an additional header which one can easily filter on :-) [...] PP It simply looks for header 'X-SpamPal:' _AND_ if this header has PP not the value 'PASS'. Checking for a '^X-SpamPal: SPAM' string in Kludges ([x] regular expressions) should be enough. -- Best regards, Carsten The Bat! (v1.62/Beta1) Business Windows 2000 5.0 (Build 2195) Service Pack 2, PGP 0xe2d25323 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [SAtalk] Another one for the RATWARE check?
Hi, all --- For the past few weeks, I've been lurking here and learning a great deal about my favorite mail client, The Bat! Those who were critical of the Spam Assassin folks for jumping to unwarranted conclusions about The Bat!'s ratware capabilities might not be aware that this very question was recently discussed at some length in NANAE (news.admin.net-abuse.email), the leading anti-spammers' newsgroup. For the convenience of those who do not follow NANAE and missed this very interesting discussion, I have used Google to compile a web page including all of the messages in the four threads posted between 2 April and 30 July of this year. It may be accessed here: http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/g/o/gold3062/batspam.htm You will find two posts from Maxim Masiutin in there, along with contributions by several highly qualified professionals such as Vern Schryver. (Vern, the owner of Rhyolite Software http://www.rhyolite.com, is one of the world's most highly qualified experts on email and the internet. He has been involved in it for many years, and was one of the authors of the RFCs.) I have included hyperlinks to the actual Google searches so that those who wish to do so can easily check the archives for themselves. Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- Regards, Morton A. Goldberg, DVM Plaza Pet Clinic 511 W. Baddour Pkwy. Lebanon, TN 37087 (615) 444-4703 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: template question (again!)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Deborah, @15-Aug-2002, 11:33 +0100 Deborah W [DW] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: DW That bit didn't work then :-( In that case the only thing I can think of is to copy the block to the clipboard and use %QUOTES=%CLIPBOARD instead of %QUOTES. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 09 beta 3 iQA/AwUBPVuKmTnkJKuSnc2gEQKBsACdHDBBPPhFnR+us1ARGNwZz/PDbRIAoPab vZCWT7hkIAbhwIC5G9bbJAAh =B314 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Removable drive
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas F. [TF] wrote:' WB Is it true that version 2.x of TheBat will have all files needed WB in the main directory? In other words, no need for a registry WB file? TF I have not heard this, and frankly, I doubt it. The registry keys TF that TB uses are located in HK_Current_User and the very reason TF for this is that many people use TB on the same computer with TF someone else, and they use different ID's. So they most likely TF have different settings in their TB and use the advantages of HKCU TF to its full extent. With the ini file system, you could still have multiple users with different configurations. This is what the 'start in:' option in shortcut properties are for. You install TB! once, but you'll have separate folders each containing it's own ini file and mail directories etc. The advantage is that you could use different configurations within the same user space. No need to logon as a different user to get to a different HKCU. Of, course, you can do it the logon way as well. Just place the start-in directory in each users own user space. You could also easily have two separate installations working with, *at the same time*, if you like. A test installation and a working installation. Not to mention portability. Wayne mentioned security in in his USB solution but didn't directly mention the real advantage of what he was proposing, i.e., a portable installation. This could relieve the headache of some having to keep installations synchronised. Just use the same installation all the time. I really think this is the way to go. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta1 Windows XP Pro List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iEYEARECAAYFAj1bjE8ACgkQV8nrYCsHF+I/dwCg8sB4kmhd5X1jIpaq3DiQQSZv vUMAoNYYJSeD69ZP9sbduFvXe9+Iot14 =9KBH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: template question (again!)
On Thursday, August 15, 2002, 12:03:53 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MDP In that case the only thing I can think of is to copy the block to the MDP clipboard and use %QUOTES=%CLIPBOARD instead of %QUOTES. and I have a template which is working beautifully, with only one keystroke added :-) Thanks! :-) Deborah Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Another one for the RATWARE check?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi DVM, @15-Aug-2002, 05:52 -0500 (11:52 UK time) Morton A. Goldberg, DVM [MAG] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to The: MAG For the convenience of those who do not follow NANAE and missed MAG this very interesting discussion, I have used Google to compile a MAG web page including all of the messages in the four threads posted MAG between 2 April and 30 July of this year. It may be accessed MAG here: MAG http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/g/o/gold3062/batspam.htm I'd like to thank you for doing that. A job well done and a useful resource for anyone fighting the fight with intransigent ISPs (like Cogeco) who are spam-filtering The Bat!. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 09 beta 3 iQA/AwUBPVuQdTnkJKuSnc2gEQKM5gCffNmYbaJxmM3jm1QSUdBPXoP2RF8An04p S0q5TX4dRWgnQNN5DIR496uM =VNuo -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Repair message base
Hello Susanne, in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] was written: S I can't delete the 2 messages responsible and TB doesn't S seem to be able to repair the base. I haven't seen this error before, neither the symptoms you describe. But have you tried disabling 'View' / 'Message Autoview' and then deleting the messages? -- Regards Peter Palmreuther (The Bat! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) It's not hard to meet expenses, they're everywhere. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bug with Exclusion in Filter?
Hello Jonathan, in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] was written: Oh, you filter on the bounce addresses. Another smart idea I haven't seen before. :-) just ensures that I don't catch any of the items that are CC'd to me twice (one from list, and the other from sender). The one from sender, directly to you, will not have the List-Headers :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuther (The Bat! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) To know the world one must construct it. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ctrl+alt+shift+L problem
Hello In the section 'Folder pane pop-up' you'll find the hotkey for 'Find Lost Folders' What circumstances result in a lost of folders? - I mean, folders usually do not simly disappeare, do they? :-) -- TIA, Regards Hanspeter The Bat! v1.53t unter Windows NT 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Repair message base
Bonjour Susanne, Mercredi, le 14 août 2002 à 12h17 [GMT -0700] (ce qui correspond à 21h17 ici où j'habite), Susanne =[S] a écrit à [EMAIL PROTECTED] : S While trying to weed through my inbox today, I came across 2 S messages bringing up an error message, asking if I want to S repair the message base. S If I click yes, theBat freezes and I have to close it using S ctrl-alt-delete. S I can't delete the 2 messages responsible and TB doesn't S seem to be able to repair the base. S I'd be happy for advice how to deal with this. Perhaps you could delete message base index (*.tbi) of your inbox in windows. At TB start, index (tbi) is re created. (/!\Do not delete *.tbb (TheBatBase)) -- Bien à vous, \---SatorArepoTenet---/ | _ __ | | //\lexis |-|aeringer/ _ . _ |_ | | alias \__)|| )|(\/(_) | | / | /---SatorArepoTenet---\ Ma clef PGP : mailto:pgp1AROBASEginkyoPOINTorg Using The Bat! v1.61 (S/N EEB8DE89) on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 / Alexis Haeringer alias Ginkyo / Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: anti-spam suggestions II
Hello Carsten, in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] was written: CT Checking for a '^X-SpamPal: SPAM' string in Kludges ([x] regular CT expressions) should be enough. ACK. Don't ask me why, I though I saw somewhere in the manual there could be more than 'X-SpamPal: PASS' and 'X-SpamPal: SPAM'. I really thought there is a third or fourth options that could appear and therefore I filtered for everything _not_ 'PASS'. Maybe I was irritated by 'PASS WLIST', 'PASS A-WLIST', etc ... must have been late at night when I've read the manual :-/ -- Regards Peter Palmreuther (The Bat! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Keyboard lock... Press F1 to resume ! Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The bat for linux?
Hi Robert, On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 13:20:56 +0300, you wrote: BH Will it ever happen? I've been using linux for many years and the only BH windows box I have collects more and more dust. I have paid for the bat BH but it bairly gets any use anymore. As I try now to switch to a Linux/UNIX platform, I give my full support to your request. I am just not sure whether The Bat! team would make such a step and distribute their program on a non-payment basis. It seems The Bat! helps these guys make their living. But... as for me (and I am sure not everyone would share my view on that), if I paid for the Windows version, I would be as willing to pay for the Linux/UNIX version as well, should there be a need for that. There wouldn't be any need for RitLabs to release it as a 'free' version under whatever license they wanted. If they were to consider it, they'd probably release it under the same license as the one the windows version is under, and probably the same costs as well. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: anti-spam suggestions
Hi Thorvald, on Thu, 15 Aug 2002 11:41:42 +0200GMT (15.08.02, 11:41 +0200GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : TN At the moment, too much (non-html)-spam gets by my filters... You might filter the other way round. I set up filters for all my mailinglists, newsletters and regular correspondents to have their messages in the appropriate folders. Then I use the known filter to sort out addresses in my address book(s). Last is the spam filter that prepares the report message for spamcop in my outbox. This works correct for, say, 99% of incoming mail. :-) -- Cheers Peter PGP-Key: http://www.meynsweb.com/public-key.txt Winamp currently playing: - silence - Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Outlook Express
Hi, Bat's expert I would like to advice my company to switch its email client currently I'm using Outlook express but it sucks! so, anyone here could back me up for that?? point out the cons and pros (any??) of the outlook express so I could outtalk them with the Bat?? I find TB pretty ez to use, but not good in words to express it Best regards, Jason Primary e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Public Key : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPKey Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ctrl+alt+shift+L problem
Hallo Hanspeter, On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 13:56:26 +0200GMT (15-8-02, 13:56 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: In the section 'Folder pane pop-up' you'll find the hotkey for 'Find Lost Folders' HS What circumstances result in a lost of folders? - I mean, folders HS usually do not simly disappeare, do they? :-) No, but the file that tells TB what folders you use might get corrupted by a disk error or whatever. Another possibility might be that you deleted a folder with the message base intact, so that 'guests' on your computer don't see certain folders... -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The bat for linux?
Hello Jonathan, Thursday, August 15, 2002, 3:13:06 PM, you wrote: JA There wouldn't be any need for RitLabs to release it as a 'free' version under JA whatever license they wanted. If they were to consider it, they'd probably JA release it under the same license as the one the windows version is under, and JA probably the same costs as well. Well, if they have people who are willing to do the job and if the already have potential customers, let them just do it! :-) -- Robert mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -=Robert Beata Golovniov | Lviv, Ukraine=- ~ PGP public key: 0x633F6D07 (link 1 - embedded, link 2 - attached) Fingerprint: 1A1C 29F1 2A0C 4C4E 0BDA C8EE 5A1D 9F03 633F 6D07 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP%20KeyBody=Please%20send%20key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=GPG%20KeyBody=Please%20send%20key ~ Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
getting number of messages
Hi all, in this dialog The Bat! can't be cancelled and this windows hangs. If Bat can't determine number of messages (in that while connection is broken) this window can't be cancelled. -- --+ +-- +- WEB: www.2ge.skMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] +--+ | - +--IRC: _2ge_ (ircnet)ICQ UIN: 7552083 ++==+=+- The Bat! 1.61 on Windows 2000; BN 2195.Service Pack 25.0 This, that, these, those, and such, said Tom demonstratively. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The bat for linux?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, August 15, 2002, Robert Golovniov wrote... JA There wouldn't be any need for RitLabs to release it as a 'free' JA version under whatever license they wanted. If they were to JA consider it, they'd probably release it under the same license as JA the one the windows version is under, and probably the same costs JA as well. Well, if they have people who are willing to do the job and if the already have potential customers, let them just do it! :-) Well, based on how popular this request has been, they'd appear to have a customer base that would be interested in a migrated version. And I'm more than willing to help out if they need it ;) - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPVuyNiuD6BT4/R9zEQI5ygCg8vzKDchv3tGnGSXrrYciXV3kCwAAoPYr khUg/JXKY50nZOFTPg5tPBFJ =7iDu -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Outlook Express
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, August 15, 2002, Jason wrote... I would like to advice my company to switch its email client currently I'm using Outlook express but it sucks! so, anyone here could back me up for that?? point out the cons and pros (any??) of the outlook express so I could outtalk them with the Bat?? I find TB pretty ez to use, but not good in words to express it You could start with TB!s flexibility, power, handling of messages, filtering, handling of bad html code (ie not handling iframes tag such as OE does which has caused this outbreak of Klez and similar viruses), it's non-standard, which means it isn't targeted for viruses, it sticks to more standards than Outlook/Outlook Express... etc etc ;) - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPVuy/iuD6BT4/R9zEQLv5QCdGDg5WLYXGcEENIdbB6tIp0jl9FgAoMnR vpjjgD2B+yc1mHwnnFDZOVNx =tgmd -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Outlook Express
ON Thursday, August 15, 2002, 3:00:29 PM, you wrote: J Hi, Bat's expert J I would like to advice my company to switch its email client J currently I'm using Outlook express J but it sucks! J so, anyone here could back me up for that?? J point out the cons and pros (any??) of the outlook express J so I could outtalk them with the Bat?? J I find TB pretty ez to use, but not good in words to express it Hi Jason, Best thing to do is wait until a virus hits and explain the benefits of TB! the day after ;-) -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -=- Real Programmers aren't afraid to use GOTO's. -=- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: moving TB
Hello Deborah, Thursday, August 15, 2002, 3:45:38 AM, you wrote: DW It sounds like it should, though I think for me it will be even DW easier, as I'm just doing a mass-move; I don't intend using TB on this DW machine again. A year ago, I had to transfer to a new computer. Since, my old machine had no CD drive, I used 3.5 floppies. I used TB! Backup checking all boxes and saved on my HD. Using Windows Commander, I did a multi-zip of the *.tbk file. I installed TB! on the new HD in same directory as old. Unzipped the floppies with WinCmd, and used TB! restore. Worked perfectly. A couple of weeks ago, I installed XP to dual boot with my existing ME. Again, I used Backup, installed TB! on XP and used restore to load files. Worked perfectly. HTH. If there's a problem doing it this way, I'm sure the power batters will let us know. ;-) BTW, Have 18 @accounts as well as archive accounts, ~3 messages, my last *.tbk ~130mb -- Regards, Paddy mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: moving TB
On Thursday, August 15, 2002, 4:21:41 PM, Paddy L wrote: PL Unzipped the floppies with WinCmd, and used TB! restore. Worked PL perfectly. Thanks for the advice :-) I'm going from a pc running Win98 to a notebook running Win2000 - does anyone know of any issues that might crop up? Deborah Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Recipient Not Authorised error message
I'm using The Bat! Version 1.60q under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 When I attempt to send an e-mail message the message is not sent and I get the following error - "Server Reply - Recipient Not Authorised (recipient rejected due to no authorised destination groups)" Cananyone please tell me what is going wrong or point me in the right direction to find a solution. I can send e-mail okay directly to my own e-mail address and I can send e-mail using Outlook Express so my ISP is happy that there is not a problem at their end. This suggests that there's something going wrong in TheBat! Please help - I am having to use Outlook Express to send this message and this is most distressing ! Thank You Alan Watters
Re: moving TB
Hello Deborah, On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, at 08:30:24 GMT +0100 (8/15/02, 2:30 AM -0500 GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: DW I'm going to be moving TB to a different computer in the next few DW days, would like simple, step-by-step instructions on what to do DW please :-) 1) copy Mail directory from backup hard drive 2) install TheBat I haven't copied to new computer, but I do keep a mirror HD backup when I have re-configured production HD. I just simply COPY the \Program Files\The Bat!\MAIL\ directory with all contents from the mirrored HD backup to the production HD. All my accounts are kept in this directory which is the default directory for accounts in TB. Then simply install TB into directory above Mail. You will have to be able to connect both PC's. Real simple and everything works. If you use CDR to create backup of all files on the CD, you should be aware all files become read only. You will have to remove this property on each file to make things work. TB does have a backup located under Tools | Backup. I haven't used it yet, but believe it keeps everything. I'm sure other on the list will be able to tell of any short falls using TB backup. You could then burn the backup file to CDR. Install TB on new PC, then use TB Tools | Restore. HTH -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 98 PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0xB1FE63FABody=Please20send20keys Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Recipient Not Authorised error message
Hello ScotWeave, in 001601c24474$da4f4b40$ee329fd9@demo">mid:001601c24474$da4f4b40$ee329fd9@demo was written: When I attempt to send an e-mail message the message is not sent and I get the following error - Please describe more detailed. Where do you want to send an e-mail to? Who exactly rejects (should be in rejection notification)? Whom do you want to send a mail to? Does your OE use the same SMTP-Server-settings as The Bat!? Why haven't you disabled HTML-Foramt in OE? -- Regards Peter Palmreuther (The Bat! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) What the mind can conceive and the heart believe, you can achieve. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Repair message base
Hi Peter, Thursday, August 15, 2002, 4:50:52 AM, you wrote: But have you tried disabling 'View' / 'Message Autoview' and then deleting the messages? I tried this just now, but I still can't delete the messages. -- Best regards, Susannemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53d OS: Windows 98 4.90 Build 3000 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: getting number of messages
Hello Brano, On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:35:35 +0200 GMT (15/08/02, 19:35 +0700 GMT), Brano wrote: B in this dialog The Bat! can't be cancelled and this windows hangs. B If Bat can't determine number of messages (in that while connection is B broken) this window can't be cancelled. Try the Abort button in that window. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. COMMITTEE: A body that keeps minutes and wastes hours. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: getting number of messages
Thomas F. [TF], on Thursday, August 15, 2002 at 22:17 (+0700) has on mind in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : TF Try the Abort button in that window. nothing works. I tried everything. Only one solution is via taskmgr shut down sending messages, and after that The BAT, and start it again. -- ...m8s, cu l8r, Brano. [Second Bruce: New Bruce - are you a pooftah?] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Repair message base
Hi Alexis, Thursday, August 15, 2002, 5:04:21 AM, you wrote: Perhaps you could delete message base index (*.tbi) of your inbox in windows. At TB start, index (tbi) is re created. (/!\Do not delete *.tbb (TheBatBase)) Tried this, but at restart TB didn't re-create .tbi. I had to restore the deleted message base. -- Best regards, Susannemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53d OS: Windows 98 4.90 Build 3000 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Repair message base
Hallo Susanne, On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 09:20:00 -0700GMT (15-8-02, 18:20 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: But have you tried disabling 'View' / 'Message Autoview' and then deleting the messages? S I tried this just now, but I still can't delete the messages. Try it the other way around. Create a new folder in TB. Go to your problem folder Select all messages except the two problems Copy all selected messages to your new folder Close TB Delete with the explorer the messages.tbi and .tbb files Now copy the messages.tb? files from your new folder to your previous problem folder. Everything should be okay now. Just in case, check the harddisk with your account with checkdisk and run a defrag too. Good hunting. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: getting number of messages
Hello Brano, On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 18:25:28 +0200 GMT (15/08/02, 23:25 +0700 GMT), Brano wrote: TF Try the Abort button in that window. B nothing works. I tried everything. Only one solution is via taskmgr B shut down sending messages, and after that The BAT, and start it B again. That's a bummer, because it works every time over here, using Win98 and a dial-up connection. Do you have the same set-up? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Sorry, Officer, I didn't realize my radar detector wasn't plugged in. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [SAtalk] Another one for the RATWARE check?
Hallo DVM, On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 05:52:30 -0500 GMT (15/08/02, 17:52 +0700 GMT), Morton A. Goldberg, DVM wrote: Those who were critical of the Spam Assassin folks for jumping to unwarranted conclusions about The Bat!'s ratware capabilities might not be aware that this very question was recently discussed at some length in NANAE (news.admin.net-abuse.email), the leading anti-spammers' newsgroup. I wasn't aware of that, thank you for pointing us to it. For the convenience of those who do not follow NANAE and missed this very interesting discussion, I have used Google to compile a web page including all of the messages in the four threads posted between 2 April and 30 July of this year. It may be accessed here: http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/g/o/gold3062/batspam.htm Very valuable information. I don't know how old the snippet was we got from the SpamAssassin list, but since the members concern themselves with spam, I would hope they are subscribed to that NG. The question whether TB is ratware has been answered satisfactorily IMHO. Thanks again. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. POLICE STATION TOILET STOLEN Cops have nothing to go on. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: getting number of messages
On Thursday, August 15, 2002, 5:38:34 PM, Thomas F. wrote: TF That's a bummer, because it works every time over here, using Win98 TF and a dial-up connection. TF Do you have the same set-up? That's the exact set-up I have, I also experience what Brano describes sometimes. Deborah Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Repair message base
Hi Roelof, Thursday, August 15, 2002, 9:46:36 AM, you wrote: Try it the other way around. Thanks for the work around! This solved the problem. Scandisk came out with no errors and I just ran defrag last night. Wonder what the problem was. -- Best regards, Susannemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53d OS: Windows 98 4.90 Build 3000 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Printing from SmartBat
Hello tbudl, I can't seem to find a way to print from a SmartBat pad. Is there really no way to do this? Or am I just missing the obvious? -- Best regards, Jim mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Never argue with an idiot! People may not be able to tell you apart. --- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Recipient Not Authorised error message
There have been problems before with home.worldless.net. Check the archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/ and search for worldless. Spamcop shows it as being listed and delisted several times, but some servers along the way may still bounce it. Don't know if this is the problem, but the worldless in your header set off a red flag for me. -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Recipient Not Authorised error message
ON Thursday, August 15, 2002, 6:00:07 PM, you wrote: S I'm using The Bat! Version 1.60q under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 S When I attempt to send an e-mail message the message is not sent and I get the following error - S Server Reply - Recipient Not Authorised (recipient rejected due to no authorised destination groups) S Can anyone please tell me what is going wrong or point me in the right direction to find a solution. S I can send e-mail okay directly to my own e-mail address and I can send e-mail using Outlook Express so my ISP is happy that there is not a problem at their end. This suggests that there's S something going wrong in TheBat! Hi ScotWeave, With so little info it is my guess that the system doesn't recognize you a Authorized User. This has my puzzled: (recipient rejected due to no authorized destination groups) Begin by checking your Account name and Password. Next check your server settings: Incoming mail (POP3, IMAP or HTTP) server Outgoing mail (SMTP) Server Check the Help pages of your ISP for those -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= LOVE: two vowels, two consonants, two fools. Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Printing from SmartBat
Hallo Jim, On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 10:03:41 -0700GMT (15-8-02, 19:03 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: JD I can't seem to find a way to print from a SmartBat pad. Is there JD really no way to do this? Or am I just missing the obvious? I don't see a way either. Only option seems to be copy and into notepad or something like it. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB! stopped checking mail
Good evening list, Suddenly TB! stopped checking my mail automaticly. I'm on a cable connection and it's on all the time. Any clues? -- Best regards, Luc Powered by The Bat! version 1.61 with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 and using the best browser: Opera. Love is the answer - but while you're waiting for the answer sex raises some pretty good questions. - Woody Allen Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! stopped checking mail
Hi Luc, L Suddenly TB! stopped checking my mail automaticly. I'm on a cable L connection and it's on all the time. It happened to me to, same version, same platform. Tried reinstalling with no luck. If anyone ever figures this out, I'd sure love to know. -- Tom G. http://blarp.com -- Free tech support The Bat 1.61 - Windows 2000 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ctrl+alt+shift+L problem
Under normal circumstances, no. But I was doing a lot of juggling shifting moving around of accounts and directories between drives. On Thursday, August 15, 2002 Hanspeter Schaffner stated: HS What circumstances result in a lost of folders? - I mean, folders HS usually do not simly disappeare, do they? :-) Cheers Yall -Cricket Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: moving TB
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Deborah W [DW] wrote:' DW I'm going from a pc running Win98 to a notebook running Win2000 - DW does anyone know of any issues that might crop up? None should crop up, although one can never predict the fluke occurrence. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta1 Windows XP Pro List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iEYEARECAAYFAj1cGAMACgkQV8nrYCsHF+KFZACg6+zADrbcE1RQ3jQR2ublhIwR y7QAoKN8uOlan3P6OHD48w/QcCBwKFqO =S11W -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Printing Emails - Some HUGE, some microscopic
Hi, I am using TB! 1.61 on a XP Pro machine. I have a Lexmark Z51, an HP 1120C, and an Espon 1280. OH and I also use an old dot matrix printer as well. When I print my emails on any printer they come out with fonts so large it won't fit on a letter size paper. Or so small they are nearly unreadable. If I reprint the email, it comes out fine. The work-around is really wasting a substantial amount of paper. HELP. ps I set the margins, font and so forth on the PRINT SETUP. But it still prints emails either too large or too small. -- Guy Prince | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Smith Co. - Richmond, California Plant Photographer / IT Specialist 1-800-234-0330 (fax) 510-232-9921 www.smithandcompany.org Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: moving TB
One thing that I've found very useful in moving to a new Windows operating system is to export the existing registry to some other media (zip disk or whatever) before switching over. I find there's always something I forgot to back up, some setting I forgot to write down, no matter how careful I try to be. Most things can be transferred over from the old directories, but registry entries are a special breed. If you export the registry to a text file you can import individual keys (TheBat! registration and such)after the move. -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
not to me filter problems
Hi Everyone, I'm new to the Bat and I've been playing around with filters over the last couple of days, but I'm stuck with this one filter... I want to move any messages that are not to one of my main email addresses to a 'potential spam' folder. I've set up a rule, or should I say filter, that will move any emails where @maundersaa.net|[EMAIL PROTECTED] is not present in the Kludges. The only thing is that it doesn't seem to work. I've also tried breaking those addresses up as alternatives rather than one string with the | character in the middle. Any ideas? -- Best regards, Paul mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: not to me filter problems
On Thursday, August 15, 2002, 11:07:04 PM, Paul Maunders wrote: I've set up a rule, or should I say filter, that will move any emails where @maundersaa.net|[EMAIL PROTECTED] is not present in the Kludges. The only thing is that it doesn't seem to work. In the sorting office, when you set up your filter, did you go to the Options tab, and select Regular Expressions? Filters do not use Regular Expressions by default. You will also have to escape with a backslash the @ and . in your email address (so they become \@ and \. Look under Create Mail Filters, and then information on Regular Expressions. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: not to me filter problems
Hi Paul. At 6:07 PM on Thursday, August 15, 2002 you [PM] wrote the following about not to me filter problems: PM I've set up a rule, or should I say filter, PM that will move any emails where PM @maundersaa.net|[EMAIL PROTECTED] is PM not present in the Kludges. The only thing is PM that it doesn't seem to work. [...] Any ideas? Here are a couple that might work for you. ,- [Plan #1] | Do not include your 2 addr in your AB | | Rule = MOVE msgs not to me to TRASH | String = @ | Advanced Tab = Addresses must be listed in AB | [name the AB] | Move msg wherever '- Alternatively: ,- [Plan #2] | Rule name is the same | String/add1=recipient, present=no | alternative = string/addr1=recipient, present=no | MOVE msg wherever '- Put these filters *after* you filter for those you do want to receive. HTH -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.61/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Copy sent mail from folder to folder?
Hi All, I'd like to be able to send an e-mail from a particular folder (using that folder's templates) and have the sent e-mail copied or moved to another particular folder. How do I do this?? AFAIK, the outgoing e-mails will not have any particular pattern to them other than they'll originate from Folder X. Thanks -- Tom G. http://blarp.com -- Free tech support The Bat 1.61 - Windows 2000 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copy sent mail from folder to folder?
Hello Blarp, On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 18:50:51 -0700 GMT (16/08/02, 08:50 +0700 GMT), Blarp wrote: B I'd like to be able to send an e-mail from a particular folder (using B that folder's templates) and have the sent e-mail copied or moved to B another particular folder. How do I do this?? TB doesn't remember from which folder you sent a message. You will have to give the mail an indicator (via foldere template) which can be caught by an outgoing filter. B AFAIK, the outgoing e-mails will not have any particular pattern to B them other than they'll originate from Folder X. So, the indicator could be a string X-File or what after your sig in the outgoing mail, and the X-folder filter will fully filter the X-File mail to the X-folder for further follow-up. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Thursday night - pot luck supper. Prayer and medication to follow. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: not to me filter problems
Hello Julian, On Fri, 16 Aug 2002 00:47:30 +0100 GMT (16/08/02, 06:47 +0700 GMT), Julian Beach (Lists) wrote: JBL In the sorting office, when you set up your filter, did you go to the JBL Options tab, and select Regular Expressions? Filters do not use JBL Regular Expressions by default. He is not using any regular expressions. Why should he activate this? JBL You will also have to escape with a backslash the and . in your JBL email address (so they become \ and \. But if he doesn't activate RegEx, he doesn't need to escape these characters. I see no reason to use RegExes for such a simple query. Paul: What you have done is use the | character for OR. NOT (FirstAdd OR SecondAdd) = NOT FirstAdd AND NOT SecondAdd. The logic is correct, but somehow it doesn't work. Try this: On the Rules tab (not alternatives tab), create both conditions seperately. (You do this by hitting the Add button.) You get: FirstAdd - presence in kludges - no SecondAdd - presence in kludges - no. They will be AND'ed. From a Boolean POV, it is the same as you did, but maybe for some other reason (Murphy?), it could work. Let us know. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. This afternoon there will be a meeting in the south and north ends of the church. Children will be baptized at both ends. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copy sent mail from folder to folder?
Hi Thomas, TF So, the indicator could be a string X-File or what after your sig in TF the outgoing mail, and the X-folder filter will fully filter the TF X-File mail to the X-folder for further follow-up. Thanks for the idea. What I actually did was stuff a unique string into the %Comment header which TB can read in the kludges. Works great. -- Tom G. http://blarp.com -- Free tech support The Bat 1.61 - Windows 2000 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
