Re[2]: Problem with attachments being corrupted
Hello Allie, Sunday, September 8, 2002, 3:57:01 PM, you wrote: ACM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- ACM Hash: SHA1 ACM In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], ACM Mark Bernard [MB] wrote:' MB It's not just a single email and attachment that this works MB with. I've tried it with different emails, from different MB senders. One with a corrupted .DOC file and one with a MB corrupted .JPG. Both files were fine after being forwarded. ACM Are the different senders using the same clients? Message #1 Corrupt JPG: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message #2 Corrupt DOC X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Message #3 Another message included 3 JPG attachments. 2 of the JPG's were fine, the other (middle one, if that matters) was corrupt. Just tried forwarding this message to me, and all three JPG's were fine. This message didn't include any x-mailer info in the header, and came from a hotmail account. Message #4 Corrupt DOC Message included 2 DOC file attachments. 1 was fine, other corrupt. Upon forwarding, they were both fine. X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) It's a pain... but it's also funny in a strange but true kind of way. Any other ideas? -- Regards, Mark mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 1.61 OS info: Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Now here's an odd one?
Hello Richard, On Sun, 8 Sep 2002 22:35:17 +0100 GMT (09/09/02, 04:35 +0700 GMT), Richard Lane wrote: RL That's very handy thanks. If I do go back will my backed up RL message archives import into it OK? Yes. ;-) Please also let us know whether you unstability problem is solved by downgrading. The 1.6x versions have been as stable as previous versions for me, and I wonder whether you have installed something else that interferes with TB. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Desktop Publishing: Ein Phaenomen, das bewirkt, dass ehemals sauber getippte Briefe heute so aussehen wie miserabel gestaltete Postwurfsendungen. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG virus checker and TB
Hello Nick! On Sunday, September 8, 2002 at 11:05:42 PM you wrote: He's not talking about an either/or situation. Rather, he inquired as to TB's much talked about NewsReader support via Plugin... if memory serves. I know that he doesn't write about either/or. I was and am against TB! becoming an all-purpose application. I don't want formatting options, I don't want it to be a news reader, I don't want it to support fully HTML 4.01, I don't want it to be a download agent and, and and ... -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.61 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Schmuck ist die teuerste Möglichkeit, von der Schönheit einer Frau abzulenken. (D.A. Wien) Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG virus checker and TB
Hello Sudip, On Mon, 9 Sep 2002 08:06:58 +0545 GMT (09/09/02, 09:21 +0700 GMT), Sudip Pokhrel wrote: SP http://www.hackfix.org/miscfix/icons-av-all.shtml --- Test page Wow. My virus scanner (PC-Cillin) got 100%. I'll stick with it. :-) I only wonder why TB has no plugin for PC-Cillin. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. When sign makers go on strike, is anything written on their signs? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem with attachments being corrupted
Hello Eddy, Sunday, September 8, 2002, 7:33:23 PM, you wrote: E Sunday, September 8, 2002, 6:57:01 PM, you wrote: ACM Are the different senders using the same clients? E I've had the same problem as Mark for a long time, with varying E versions of TB! I sent email to the list back in April, and nobody E had any clues then. The attitude seemed to be well it doesn't E happen to me, so I guess it must be a problem on your end. E - The mail is being received and stored properly by TB! E(otherwise, you would not be able to forward it to another Euser and have them be able to read the attachment correctly. EIf it was network errors, ISP related, or a problem with how ETB! stores messages, forwarding the message would result in Ethe forwarded copy being unreadable by the new recipient, Ewhich is NOT the case. The attachments which are corrupt for Eme in TB! can always be forwarded to a non-TB! user and be Eperfectly readable). Eddy... I forward these corrupt messages to myself, and open them with the SAME copy of TB! that they were corrupt in... only after being forwarded, all the attachments are fine. While composing this message, I redirected one of the corrupt messages to the same address it was originally sent to, and it arrived uncorrupted! You don't have to forward them to a non-TB! user... try forwarding/redirecting a corrupt message back to yourself and openning with TB! -- Regards, Mark mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 1.61 OS info: Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Forcing viewed messages to wrap
Hello Thomas, On Sunday, September 8, 2002 at 8:08:19 PM you [TF] wrote (at least in part): PP Than don't rewrap. Send them their stuff as it is received at your PP side. TF The line will still appear wrapped in their viewer. And? What else, beside the fact he did not 'waste' time with re-wrapping? -- Regards Peter Palmreuther (The Bat! v1.62/Beta4 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) Marmalade, I like marmalade, marmalade, I like marm... Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: AVG virus checker and TB
Hello Dierk, Sunday, September 8, 2002, 9:54:37 PM, you wrote: Yeah, sorry about that, I thought I was replying individually, apologies to all. DH Hello Jim! DH On Sunday, September 8, 2002 at 7:44:18 PM you wrote: Thanks for the info, much appreciated. DH Jim, it's nice to see someone thanking others as you do, but for one DH it is not necessary - I think we all agree that thanks is - most of DH the time - implicit. And even if you want to thank the friendly little DH helpers on these lists, could you next time please refrain to *one* DH message to all? DH That would be really nice!* DH *And it is not so much bandwidth I am concerned with (I am on a DSL DH flatrate) but all those Thank you messages I had to see/skim and DH delete. -- Best regards, Jimmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: OT: XP SP1
Sunday, September 8, 2002, 7:13:22 PM, Paul wrote: PD What is new in XP SP1 is the ability to disable Outlook Express full PD stop...it won't even run if you double click on the icon...same with PD MSN Messenger, Internet Explorer and Media Player. And you can also uninstall any of 'em...(looks that way, at least...I haven't tried, but they show up under the list of Windows programs in Add/Remove Programs now). -- Sean T.mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is the TBUDL info page down...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Adam, @8-Sep-2002, 23:57 Adam Rykala [AR] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: AR Can't get to it myself? AR I'm emailing a friend whose evaluating the Bat! and I can't AR get to the page myself! There have been problems with the server over the weekend but all is well now. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta5 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.91-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9fGk8OeQkq5KdzaARAuMaAJ4vvSxnPtJFn/DB/n/uw02CT2yMNwCfd52Z fTqDNxv7JusmmfdfwTl7LMU= =EzJM -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Attached documents being spoiled
Dear all, Since I use The Bat (1.60h), which I am otherwise very satisfied with, I experience a strange and annoying problem: Attached documents from certain sender addresses get spoilt, i.e. they arrive in an unreadable state. In text documents, line breakes are removed; RTF and DOC documents display not the actual text but just a couple of strange characters. Zipped documents from the same senders arrive OK, though. Does anyone have an idea why this happens and how it can be fixed? I work as a translator and receive documents every day; clients already have asked whether I really want to keep that strange email program... I have no idea myself, but there's an observation which might or might not be related to the problem. Maybe someone who knows more about this than I do will get a clue from this. Here's the content-type header of a message with a spoilt attachment: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=_=_NextPart_000_01C255C4.B7602E40 And here's the content-type header of a message where the attachment arrived OK: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary==_358678532==_ Sorry if this should have been discussed before. I can't access the archives, since I cannot log in to Yahoo (once lost my password Yahoo ID and got despaired with their automated procedures ever after...) Thanks in advance and kind regards, Anselm __ Anselm Buehling - Translations EN/RU DE [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49 30 6950 4870 |phone +49 30 6950 4898 |fax +49 170 961 2072 |mobile Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with attachments being corrupted
Hello Mark, On Sun, 8 Sep 2002 23:26:34 -0700 GMT (09/09/02, 13:26 +0700 GMT), Mark Bernard wrote: MB Eddy... I forward these corrupt messages to myself, and open them MB with the SAME copy of TB! that they were corrupt in... only after MB being forwarded, all the attachments are fine. While composing this MB message, I redirected one of the corrupt messages to the same MB address it was originally sent to, and it arrived uncorrupted! I confirm this. And while I first thought the TB's viewer is broken (I can see the .jpg files without problems when I save them to disk and then open them with IrfanView), I now think that the there must be soemthing wrong with the headers (or lower headers) of the incoming messages. When they are forwarded by TB, TB will insert correct headers. I am not good enough at reading boundaries and such. Maybe someone who is can check whether my theory holds. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: www.silverstones.com
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Pete, @8-Sep-2002, 21:24 -0600 (04:24 UK time) Pete Milne [PM] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: PM You have the website www.silverstones.com correct? I have PM tried to access the site...it is dead (at least on my end). PM Were you aware of this? Yes, vaguely. The server is not located here and I have to rely on remote administrators. At four in the morning I must confess to having slept through the problem and all was solved by the time I awoke. It's back on-line now. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta5 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.91-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9fHOPOeQkq5KdzaARAuvdAJ9xvjq6FwQ2MSTVn22+l++XbKeOrwCg1r0H t+gUeTUsKK3BxyJgsU61hBI= =OOq8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Colour Groups and Memo limitations
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Joseph N. [JN] wrote:' JN That certainly expands the notion of an email program, but what JN you are describing is an approach that is used in a personal JN information manager called Zoot. Zoot syncs with Outlook, and JN can handle .tbb files with some limitations. But the idea of JN having what are essentially folders with assignments (either JN just manually or by rules+actions) within the MUA would be a JN fantastic addition to TB! It could catapult the program in the JN ranks of email programs for Windows users. But it would also be JN morphing the thing beyond just an MUA; I don't see why this would make it go beyond just being an MUA. There are two virtual type folders already supported. The first is that one displayed as the ticker. Double clicking on the ticker will produce a browse ticker messages window listing all unread messages being displayed by the ticker, even though these messages may be physically, already distributed across multiple folders. I find this feature wonderful. The same goes for the search window list. The code seems to be there. It's just to extend this ability where the user could create their own virtual message groups like these for their own purposes. -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta5 WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with attachments being corrupted
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Mark Bernard [MB] wrote:' MB It's a pain... but it's also funny in a strange but true kind MB of way. Any other ideas? Isn't Internet Mail Service, also Microsoft Outlook? If so, there does seem to be a commonality in clients sending the attachments that are not being properly handled. There is likely to be something about the encoding of their attachments that TB! isn't always properly handling. -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta5 WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: One account, multiple locations
On Monday, September 9, 2002, 11:05, Sean Johnston wrote: At the moment I'm doing a backup at the end of the day at work and copying this home. I then restore this at home, and do a similar thing in reverse before heading back into work. The problem I have is sending mail. Due to firewalling I need to use different SMTP servers at work and home. The backup/restore includes this setting so I have to remember to change it each time. Is there some way round this? Is backup/restore the right way to be going? I have a similar setup but I'm only copying the files containing the mails, not the other stuff. This way I can have different setups at work and at home. A drawback of my method is that when I do any changes (to the address book, the filters etc) I have to do them at both locations. Besides that, everything works like a charm. Copy the Inbox, Outbox, Sent and Trash folders including all files and subdirectories. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG virus checker and TB
Hello Dierk, On Sunday, 8. September 2002 at 20:49:44 [GMT +0200] you wrote: AFAIR similar tests in German computer magazines the number for AVG seems right, although Kaspersky and NAV usually don't score that high - virtually no virus scanner does. that's why F-Secure uses two (three) *different* scan engines. BTW, Norton gets always highest marks for its interface and usability for newbies, but lacks behind in detection and speed. Its interesting, always Norton, Kapersky. What about Nod32. If you look at the vBulletin Page it has over the last years impressive results and by the way better than Norton and Kapersky. The only thing is the Plugin for TB is not working very well. -- Ciao Thomas Mailer: The Bat!1.62/Beta5 System: Windows XP 2600 PGP: PGPckt 6.58 Build: 08 | Key: 0xBB9237A9 ICQ: 121117424 (hardly ever online) HP: http://mirror.at/thebat/ Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attached documents being spoiled
Hi Anselm, On Mon, 9 Sep 2002 11:37:56 +0200, you wrote: Since I use The Bat (1.60h), which I am otherwise very satisfied with, I experience a strange and annoying problem: Attached documents from certain sender addresses get spoilt, i.e. they arrive in an unreadable state. In text documents, line breakes are removed; RTF and DOC documents display not the actual text but just a couple of strange characters. Zipped documents from the same senders arrive OK, though. Do all clients that have the problem at your end use the same mail client? How about same mail server? Are you 100% sure the text files come with line breaks in them? Wordpad writes text files without line breaks, and when it saves, the only breaks that get put in are those actually made by the user with return/enter. Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=_=_NextPart_000_01C255C4.B7602E40 This is just the top header of the email telling the email program what line is used to start the attachment. If you look at the mail source (I think this works), you should notice further down in the same email, a line starting: _=_NextPart_000_01C255C4.B7602E40 Then a couple of headers, and then what appears as random text. That is normal ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG virus checker and TB
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas Martin [TM] wrote:' TM Its interesting, always Norton, Kapersky. What about Nod32. If TM you look at the vBulletin Page it has over the last years TM impressive results and by the way better than Norton and TM Kapersky. The only thing is the Plugin for TB is not working TM very well. Agreed. NOD32's checker window flickers into view with each attachment check (just a glitch) and *steals the window focus every time* (this is annoying). -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta5 WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: XP SP1
[Dit is een reply op bericht OT: XP SP1 van 9-9-2002, 9:47] N And you can also uninstall any of 'em...(looks that way, at least...I N haven't tried, but they show up under the list of Windows programs in N Add/Remove Programs now). Hi Sean, That only seems to be true. Read the description that appears when Outlook Express/Internet Explorer is highlighted: Add or remove access (sic!) to ... from the Start Menu and Desktop. -- Best regards, Rob Mebus File(s) attached: none __ © 2002 Rob Mebus, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [9-9-2002 --- 14:54:07] using The Bat! 1.62/Beta5 __ There's nothing remarkable about it. All one has to do is hit the right keys at the right time and the instrument plays itself. - Johann Sebastian Bach Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Colour Groups and Memo limitations
On Monday, September 09, 2002, Allie C Martin wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: There are two virtual type folders already supported. The first is that one displayed as the ticker. Double clicking on the ticker will produce a browse ticker messages window listing all unread messages being displayed by the ticker, even though these messages may be physically, already distributed across multiple folders. [cut] The same goes for the search window list. Allie, Those are good points. I use the ticker only to advise me of messages in my Inbox-Known folder, so I was not even aware that it could function the way you described it. If it were possible to engineer folder assignments, I think it would dramatically increase the power of the program. Too early to talk of version 3? Or is version 2 still sufficiently far off...? -- JN Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Colour Groups and Memo limitations
Hi Gerard. At 8:32 AM on Monday, September 09, 2002 you [G] wrote the following about 'Colour Groups and Memo limitations': G [...] The problem is only that you end up G with lots of duplicate emails and you G still can not see, by looking at the email G to which group it belongs. You still need G to go to each folder and see if it is G there to. [/...] True enough but if you don't make a copy how else can you assign it color #2? One msg cannot have 2 colors unless you are talking about a 'virtual' item like in Zoot. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.61/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG virus checker and TB
Hi Allie, On Monday, September 9, 2002 07:28 your local time, (18:13 my local time), you wrote: TM Its interesting, always Norton, Kapersky. What about Nod32. TM vBulletin Page it has over the last years impressive results and TM by the way better than Norton and Kapersky. The only thing is the TM Plugin for TB is not working very well. Agreed. NOD32's checker window flickers into view with each attachment check (just a glitch) and *steals the window focus every time* (this is annoying). Besides this one, AVG, and Kaspersky, what other AV progs have plug-ins for TB! ? -- Be Well, Sudip Pokhrel Sudip Kathmandu-NP. ___PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185 TB! v1.61 on XP Pro| http://pgpkeys.mit.edu P4-1.6Ghz 256MB RAM| ___ EXPANSION SLOTS: The extra holes in your belt buckle /\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail X / \ Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG virus checker and TB
Hello Allie, On Monday, 9. September 2002 at 07:28:32 [GMT -0500] you wrote: Agreed. NOD32's checker window flickers into view with each attachment check (just a glitch) and *steals the window focus every time* (this is annoying). do you know if there will be a development of the Nod32 plugin. I like that AV , but i need a working plugin. I like the posibilty to filter a Mail with a virus in a special folder like AVG does it perfectly. But withour a plugin...?? -- Ciao Thomas Mailer: The Bat!1.62/Beta5 System: Windows XP 2600 PGP: PGPckt 6.58 Build: 08 | Key: 0xBB9237A9 ICQ: 121117424 (hardly ever online) HP: http://mirror.at/thebat/ Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: One account, multiple locations
Dear Marcus, Monday, September 9, 2002, 1:45:35 PM, you wrote: ,- [ ] | Copy the Inbox, Outbox, Sent and Trash folders including all files and | subdirectories. `- IMHO it will be better to copy all files in the account directory except account.cfg. You should have different versions of account.cfg at work and at home. -- Best regards, Sergey Uvarov mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat version :1.62/Beta5, Running at NT 5.0, Build 2195 Service Pack 2. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Beta Program?
Hi fellow Batters! I would like to join the beta program, is there a mailing list to join to request becoming a beta tester? Thanks, __ Tony Brookes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tonybro.com Using The Bat! 1.61 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Attached documents being spoiled
Hi Jonathan, Do all clients that have the problem at your end use the same mail client? No. How about same mail server? No. Are you 100% sure the text files come with line breaks in them? Yes, definitely. Another thought: I'm not so sure that the problem is really sender-related, as in at least one case I successfully received an unzipped Excel file from a sender with whose attachments I use to have problems. It might well be that the problem occurs with mails that contain several attachments of different file types. Is it possible that The Bat has difficulties with recognizing different kinds of files attached to the same mail? Or that a certain setting needs to be made? Kind regards, Anselm __ Anselm Buehling - Translations EN/RU DE [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49 30 6950 4870 |phone +49 30 6950 4898 |fax +49 170 961 2072 |mobile Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attached documents being spoiled
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, September 09, 2002, Anselm Buehling wrote... Do all clients that have the problem at your end use the same mail client? No. Damn... How about same mail server? No. Damn... Are you 100% sure the text files come with line breaks in them? Yes, definitely. Crap... It might well be that the problem occurs with mails that contain several attachments of different file types. Is it possible that The Bat has difficulties with recognizing different kinds of files attached to the same mail? Or that a certain setting needs to be made? No... I doubt this very much. I just received 13 attachments on one email of types .pas, .dfm, .dcu, .dpk and one .txt, none were messed up. The thing that is getting me is the fact that trying to open them is messing up, but resending them to yourself means they can be opened fine. To me this suggests something might have been messed up during the send/receive. It could be that the message attachment itself (when encoded) my have been wrapped oddly by some mail server in between not following rfc guidelines. When you go to resend with TB! it rewraps the attachment itself, and fixes the issue. What you may want to try doing is looking at the source of the email, and make sure there are no extra line breaks in the email, like such: (normal header bit) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary==_NextPart_000_000D_01C255BD.716F61A0 (body header attachment) --=_NextPart_000_000D_01C255BD.716F61A0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=Dimdbdat.dcr Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=Dimdbdat.dcr ACD//wAA//8AAABoBgAANP//AgBUAEQAS QBNAEQAQgBE AEEAVABFMAAJBAAAKBgYAQAIAABAA gAAzg4AAMQO AIAAAICAgACAgACAAICAAADAwMAAwNzAAPDKp gAA If you see that, or something similar to that, then that'd be the cause of your problem. Otherwise I think I'd be lost for options/ideas/solutions. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPXy0tCuD6BT4/R9zEQJAWwCfRNWJBBZ0eHX8EwSYiXjBCl1vmZwAnRwR 808H5Nj4hbTAyuxnv4euHhWU =B1Fw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Have been trying to unsubscribe
Hi listers, I've been trying to go on nomail since the 2nd of Sep but to no avail. I'll out for a WHOLE MONTH, my laptop is acting out, so I can't always download (and when I can, it's at hideous hotel rates!). Now my PC is out and I'm using a friend's. Can the list moderator/owner please put me on unsubscribe/nomail till October? Otherwise my mailbox will get clogged and reject important work mail I may need to receive. I did send my empty mail to the unsubscribe address you guys had in the footer, but 3 times it ignored it. Please help! Thanks Joyce Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Colour Groups and Memo limitations
How about colour group clutter. I have a fair few groups I created, but the concept is mostly expired. What happens if you remove some? What happens to the messages assigned? Oh, and does anyone know if there is a specific functional difference between the designations 'name' and 'handle' and 'unique id'? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Beta Program?
Hi Tony, on Mon, 9 Sep 2002 15:15:43 +0100 GMT (which was Monday, September 9, 2002, 16:15 where I live) Tony Brookes wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] among others: I would like to join the beta program, is there a mailing list to join to request becoming a beta tester? Please see: http://stromgrade.its-toasted.org/mailman/listinfo/tbbeta -- Best regards, Roland mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I use The Bat! v1.62/Beta5 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ! Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG virus checker and TB
On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Thomas Martin wrote: AFAIR similar tests in German computer magazines the number for AVG seems right, although Kaspersky and NAV usually don't score that high - virtually no virus scanner does. that's why F-Secure uses two (three) *different* scan engines. BTW, Norton gets always highest marks for its interface and usability for newbies, but lacks behind in detection and speed. Its interesting, always Norton, Kapersky. What about Nod32. If you look at the vBulletin Page it has over the last years impressive results and by the way better than Norton and Kapersky. The only thing is the Plugin for TB is not working very well. I'm in contact with developers from Eset, developer of Nod32. I have sent them source code for plugin and free licence, so please wait. They told me, they have a little time, but they will try to find time to create it. -- Marek Mikus Czech Support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Beta Program?
Roland Burger recently typed, RB Please see: http://stromgrade.its-toasted.org/mailman/listinfo/tbbeta Thanks, done! Tony Brookes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tonybro.com Sent using The Bat! 1.61 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Forcing viewed messages to wrap
Hello Peter, On Mon, 9 Sep 2002 09:26:33 +0200 GMT (09/09/02, 14:26 +0700 GMT), Peter Palmreuther wrote: TF The line will still appear wrapped in their viewer. PP And? What else, beside the fact he did not 'waste' time with PP re-wrapping? Nothing else. He will not know that you didn't rewrap. Check it out with the web interface of your webmail provider of choice. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Hilfe, mein Keyboard ist kaputt, es schreibt statt Passworten nur Sternchen... Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with attachments being corrupted
Hello vlk, On Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:20:45 +0200 GMT (09/09/02, 19:20 +0700 GMT), vlk wrote: v Probably it is not the problem here, but TB! has no support for v JPG files in CMYK color mode (only RGB) - you get the JPG Err#. v saving file and opening in other app (Acdsee, ..) is then ok. How can I check which colour mode a jpg file uses? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. For those of you who have children and don't know it, we have a nursery downstairs. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Beta Program?
Hello Tony, On Mon, 9 Sep 2002 15:15:43 +0100 GMT (09/09/02, 21:15 +0700 GMT), Tony Brookes wrote: TB I would like to join the beta program, is there a mailing list to join TB to request becoming a beta tester? Follow the link at the bottom of every posting here, and will will find out that you can join the official TBBETA list by sending an empty email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. 24. Dueling is legal in Paraguay as long as both parties are registered blood donors. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with attachments being corrupted
Hello Thomas! On Monday, September 9, 2002 at 6:45:10 PM you wrote: How can I check which colour mode a jpg file uses? Open it with IrfanView, PhotoShop, PhotoPaint or the like and look for the Image Information. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.61 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C First Rule for Corners: Slow In, Fast Out Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG virus checker and TB
Sh'mae Nick, On Sun, 08 Sep 2002, at 14:07:20 [GMT -0700] (or 22:07 in Wales) regarding 'AVG virus checker and TB' you wrote: NA Hello Adam Rykala, NA On Sunday, September 08 2002 at 08:45 AM PDT, you wrote: And if you mean turning TB! into OE then ugghhh. NA No, the only one mentioning OE was you. ;o) What he was inquiring about NA is the NewsReader Plugin... no more... no less. ;o) Thats ok then...shiver Anyway, I use XNews and I can't see me changing unless TB!'s newsreader plugin is phenomenal a -- 09 September 2002, 18:06 |\ _,,,---,,_ http://new-wales.net | /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' Checked by Antivir Mail Gateway | '---''(_/--' `-'\_) pgp key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | You are here: X Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power. (Abraham Lincoln) Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem with attachments being corrupted
-- Message from: Thomas F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9. september 2002, 6:45:10 PM: -- TF How can I check which colour mode a jpg file uses? If you have Adobe Photoshop installed, just open the image and you will see (on the titlebar). -- vlk TB161, w98 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG virus checker and TB
Hello Marek, On Monday, 9. September 2002 at 17:31:41 [GMT +0200 (CEST)] you wrote: I'm in contact with developers from Eset, developer of Nod32. I have sent them source code for plugin and free licence, so please wait. They told me, they have a little time, but they will try to find time to create it. just great, because its a very good and small AV. -- Ciao Thomas Mailer: The Bat!1.62/Beta5 System: Windows XP 2600 PGP: PGPckt 6.58 Build: 08 | Key: 0xBB9237A9 ICQ: 121117424 (hardly ever online) HP: http://mirror.at/thebat/ Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG virus checker and TB
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas Martin [TM] wrote:' TM do you know if there will be a development of the Nod32 plugin. TM I like that AV , but i need a working plugin. I like the TM posibilty to filter a Mail with a virus in a special folder like TM AVG does it perfectly. NOD32 does this. It's just the window that very briefly flickers in and out of view and stealing focus. TM But withour a plugin...?? I've been using it despite the problem I've never dropped the NOD32 developers a note concerning the plug-in. I guess I should do so. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta5 WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE9fNoDV8nrYCsHF+IRAkzsAKDuZY0OYryM3Szv8h0wHCwO45I6NgCfeskv 7XM9V5z2Sjj7wW49WX/YzAw= =WrHQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Colour Groups and Memo limitations
Hi Gerard. At 11:19 AM on Monday, September 09, 2002 you [G] wrote the following about 'Colour Groups and Memo limitations': G What I need are more flags that can be set individually, 256 of G them would do G nicely :-) Oh, I see. Not a bad idea. I'm now working w a number of programs in which the user can assign icons from a library. This does come in handy but as for flags, I think maybe you will have to wait for all the different colored flags to go on sale. And it may be a while. :-) -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.61/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG virus checker and TB
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Sudip Pokhrel [SP] wrote:' SP Besides this one, AVG, and Kaspersky, what other AV progs have SP plug-ins for TB! ? Dr Web: http://www.dials.ru/english/inf/thebat.htm SophosNT: ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/SophosNT.BAV Sophos95: ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/Sophos95.BAV Panda: ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/Panda.BAV (I'm not sure of this ones name): ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/BitDefSt.BAV AntivirusNT: ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/AntiVirNT.BAV Antivirus95: ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/AntiVir95.BAV - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta5 WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE9fN72V8nrYCsHF+IRAvzoAJkBZsxgewghqnwUCGSoCXEkI3dtLQCdFkF2 6bnRiCHKRdLYXrKWvPSt+hs= =1v1N -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem with attachments being corrupted
-- Message from: Thomas F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9. september 2002, 7:40:57 PM: -- TF It says: TF Current Colours: 16,7 Millions (24 BitsPerPixel) TF Under JPG Comment, it says: TF File written with Adobe Photoshop 5.0 TF Does that tell me whether it uses RGB or CMYK? no. on my irfan (v3.75) under Image\information\ it says: Compression: JPG/JFIF, progressive, CMYK -- vlk TB161, w98 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: XP SP1
Rob Mebus recently typed, RM Remove them? How? I only see an option to remove access to them. You open Control Panel, then open Add/Remove Programs On the left, there should be a facility to Add/Remove Windows Components. Here there are options to remove IE, MSN, OE and Messenger. Deselect by removing the tick box and away you go by clicking Apply HTH Tony Brookes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tonybro.com Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: XP SP1
[Dit is een reply op bericht OT: XP SP1 van 9-9-2002, 20:57] Hi Tony, Again: read the description that appears when Outlook Express/Internet Explorer is highlighted: Add or remove ACCESS (sic!) to ... from the Start Menu and Desktop. -- Best regards, Rob Mebus File(s) attached: none __ © 2002 Rob Mebus, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [9-9-2002 --- 21:48:03] using The Bat! 1.62/Beta5 on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 1 __ Woman was God's second mistake. - Friedrich Nietzsche __ On maandag 9 september 2002, 20:57:42 Tony Brookes wrote the following: T Rob Mebus recently typed, RM Remove them? How? I only see an option to remove access to them. T You open Control Panel, then open Add/Remove Programs T On the left, there should be a facility to Add/Remove Windows T Components. Here there are options to remove IE, MSN, OE and T Messenger. Deselect by removing the tick box and away you go by T clicking Apply T HTH T T Tony Brookes T [EMAIL PROTECTED] T http://www.tonybro.com T Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 T Service Pack 1 T T Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: T http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: backup strategy
Dear Jan, Going back 16:23 06.09.2002... Part of that strategy includes concentrating as much data as I can within the My Documents settings folder so I can backup that folder on a regular basis. Think twice before you want to do this! I've lost once a My Document folder, locked out by a Windows crash (!) due to a Macromedia Flash homepage (!!). The system (Win2000) crashed, and after reboot reports that your profile is broken, and it will restart to try to fix it. I let it restart, and this was my capital error. After its scandisk attemps, not only the profile was dead, bearing the Default user settings, but *all* under the user names profile folder, *including* the My Documents folder, was *gone for good*. Wasn't a good day either... ;) Vale! Johannesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- A nuclear war can ruin your whole day. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Closing the programme; address book and groups
Dear Dierk, Going back 22:11 30.08.2002... This happens when - as the message states - a task is pending, usually a broken connection, which TB! tries to establish. I'd like to go back on this, even if it's already a bit older ;) I *often*, meaning once to twice per day, have to kill TB the hard way (Win2k process manager - Kill process thebat.exe), because of such broken connections, which do not want to be aborted. Is there anything that one can do? It happens somewhat exclusively on servers that use SSL connections, and most of times even before TB logs into the POP3 server. I'm running 1.62b4. Once, I let TB run, and after more than 3 hours (!), I killed it because it really wouldnt sort this our on it's own. Thanks for any clues :) Vale! Johannesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You never know who is right, but you always know who is in charge. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:backup strategy
Hi Johannes. Thanks for your warning. At 4:41 PM on Monday, September 09, 2002 you [JP] wrote the following about 'backup strategy': JP Think twice before you want to do this! JP I've lost once a My Document folder, JP locked out by a Windows crash (!) due to JP a Macromedia Flash homepage (!!). JP The system (Win2000) crashed, and after JP reboot reports that your profile is JP broken, and it will restart to try to fix JP it. I let it restart, and this was my JP capital error. [...] Wasn't a good day JP either... ;) Each time I work on a program with a database I save it the end of the session. At the end of each day, there is a total backup of all critical info. That includes an export of the register. I suppose there's no fool proof way I'm sure open to suggestions. Thanks. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.61/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Forcing viewed messages to wrap
ACM You can try the template set called 'ReWrap' found here: ACM http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html#rewrap Well Allie now I really feel like an idiot. How do I use this? Do I make TWO different quick templates (never used those before), one called Begin wq and one called Begin wrap2, THEN replace %WRAPPED=%QUOTES with just %QINCLUDE=wq in my reply template? Thank you all kindly for your help. Best regards, Miles Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.53d on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Forcing viewed messages to wrap
PP You'd be a good model if you'd have set up your installation to PP respect the common used values too. PP 90 characters ain't that widely used, 70-78 is quite more common. Point well taken. I usually have it at 78 but used 90 for a project and then forgot about it... PP Next is to avoid white spaces in front of punctuation, that avoids PP results like in the former shown paragraph, last line, when rewrapping PP is done. When I ask people to set up their email program or account properly most don't bother... All this wastes a lot of my time! PP Than don't rewrap. Send them their stuff as it is received at your PP side. You missed the point. Scrolling to no end to your right (even on a 19 inch monitor) is a huge pain for me and renders replying to SOME messages almost unfeasible, but THEY don't care. I'm certainly not an expert but many people I deal with are completely new to computer so they're totally clueless anyway. As I mentioned most do NOT take action even when I request it. Hence my hope for some kind of way to force the re-wrapping of endless lines for replies... PP And last but not least: use a signature delimiter. Forgive my ignorance, Peter, but what the heck is a signature delimiter?! Best regards, Miles Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.53d on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Forcing viewed messages to wrap
TF How about a 5-kg sledgehammer, applied to their computers, for force? g Beam me up Scotty, here I come with my sledgehammer! PERFECT! TF Seriously, try AutoFormat and AutoWrap in the editor's Utilities menu TF header. Does that help? I've got autowrap turned on by default. Autoformat does things I don't like but I did try it out of curiosity and it doesn't help with my problem. Perhaps that feature has been changed/enhanced in new versions? Best regards, Miles Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.53d on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Now here's an odd one?
Hello Thomas, Monday, September 9, 2002, 6:41:03 AM, you wrote: RL That's very handy thanks. If I do go back will my backed up RL message archives import into it OK? Yes. ;-) Please also let us know whether you unstability problem is solved by downgrading. The 1.6x versions have been as stable as previous versions for me, and I wonder whether you have installed something else that interferes with TB. I keep my system free of loads of little utilities and steer well clear of hacks and patches. ATM It's a standard WinXP home install with all critical updates applied, Norton Personal Firewall, Norton Anti Virus 2002, PowerDVDxp, plus drivers for my Graphics and sound card and that's about it, apart from TB. I have loads of other other industry standard software I haven't reinstalled as yet. About the only thing I can think off that might be causing problems is Norton Anti-Virus which I use. This evening while TB was minimised I was browsing with IE and TB kept poping up the error message again, the one that some others are also getting... Access violation at address 003D35EC. Read of address 003D35EC I've no idea what's causing it or what the error really refers to, maybe one of the programmers might be able to shed some light on this. I've also had occasions where TB goes to using 100% CPU time and the only thing I can do is re-boot to stop it running away. -- Best regards, Richard Lane - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Magnum Opus http://www.magnumopus.co.uk Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
