Not funny Bat, my address book ?

2003-01-28 Thread Homesick Mac

2003-01-28 , 09:49 ,

Hello everybody,

with  apologies  as  my  first  line  - for bothering the list with my
attempts to switch to the digest form. Thanks Mark won't happen again :-)

I'm  wondering  why  sometimes  TheBat  wouldn't load the Address Book
module  as  it is. I mean, I've got my e-mail addresses in the Mac's
Address  Book  with 6 sub-address books with categorized contacts etc.
It  works  fine  mostly but  sometimes  when  I open it (either with F8 or by
clicking on the Address Book icon)  my contacts are gone, and all of a
sudden,  I've  got this default Address Book as when you start TheBat!
right after the clean install.

I  close the program, start again, same thing. However, a reboot of my
laptop solves the problem. Why is this ?

I'm  running  the  version  1.61 right now. After getting some help on
this  issue  I guess I'll be backing up everything and then go over to
1.62i

Thanks in advance.

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S/MIME and MS-Entourage

2003-01-28 Thread Eddie Castelli
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Dear readers from 'TB!beta List',

I just got a phone call from a Company that got an S/MIME signed eMail
from me. They say that 'the attached file' could not be opened. I
explained here, that this is a Digital Signature. But unfortunately I
couldn't tell here how to open it. Further I must confess that I don't
know this either for Netscape and MS-OE.

Question: How is the S/MIME shown in eMail Client other than TB!? And
how are they viewed?

Many thanks in advance and have a nice day :)


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Re: Why AOL email as attachments inside attachments?

2003-01-28 Thread Paul Cartwright

On Monday, January 27, 2003, 10:47 PM, you wrote:



j I frequently get email from AOL users that are attachments inside attachments.

j Anybody else see this?  Know why it happens?


I have had friends ( and AOL email users) send me those type of
attachment emails to help them find the original message! I have seen
some as much as 7 levels deep in attachments!! normally I clean it up,
and send the original back to them in plain text.

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Re: Not funny Bat, my address book ?

2003-01-28 Thread Paul Cartwright

On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 4:31 AM, you wrote:

HM I'm  wondering  why  sometimes  TheBat  wouldn't load the Address Book
HM module  as  it is. I mean, I've got my e-mail addresses in the Mac's
HM Address  Book  with 6 sub-address books with categorized contacts etc.
HM It  works  fine  mostly but  sometimes  when  I open it (either with F8 or by
HM clicking on the Address Book icon)  my contacts are gone, and all of a
HM sudden,  I've  got this default Address Book as when you start TheBat!
HM right after the clean install.

if you created a new group, did you switch the default AB to that
group??
in the addressbook, highlight your group and click the EDIT menu. Is
there a checkbox by the USE THIS AS DEFAULT??

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Forwarding messges - cursor jumps to bottom

2003-01-28 Thread mm Meister
Hi Bats,

  When I forward an email, I like to top post a note along with it.
  Why does the cursor first jump to the bottom? The second time I try
  to click in front of the forwarded portion, it works fine. I realize
  this probably is a feature, not a bug, but can someone tell me how
  to turn it off?

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Re: Forwarding messges - cursor jumps to bottom

2003-01-28 Thread Andre Wichartz
Hello mm,

On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 07:46:24 -0500 GMT (which was 13:46 local
time), mm Meister wrote:

mM   When I forward an email, I like to top post a note along with it.
mM   Why does the cursor first jump to the bottom? The second time I try

Because you told it to do so in the template.

mM   to click in front of the forwarded portion, it works fine. I realize
mM   this probably is a feature, not a bug, but can someone tell me how
mM   to turn it off?

Remove %Cursor at the end of the fwd template und put it at the top.

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Re[2]: Forwarding messges - cursor jumps to bottom

2003-01-28 Thread mm Meister
Hello Andre,

Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 8:05:58 AM, you wrote:

AW Remove %Cursor at the end of the fwd template und put it at the top.

Thank you very much, Andre. The templates scare me and I don't know
how to do them. Long ago (and far away) when I started using TheBat!
my friend set up the small templates I use. Very basic. So I never
learned... Thanks again.

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Quoting selected text in a reply

2003-01-28 Thread Iain Harrison
When I reply to a message, I'd like to be able to select some text
before replying, and have that text included in my reply as a quote.

I can see how to quote the entire message, or quote the contents of
the clipboard, but not the selected text.

Is there a way to do what I want? If so, how?

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Re: Quoting selected text in a reply

2003-01-28 Thread Eriks Tipans
Hello Iain,

On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 13:21:33 + GMT (28 Jan, 15:21 my local time),
you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 When I reply to a message, I'd like to be able to select some text
 before replying, and have that text included in my reply as a quote.

 I can see how to quote the entire message, or quote the contents of
 the clipboard, but not the selected text.

 Is there a way to do what I want? If so, how?

Just select text and press F4

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Re: Forwarding messges - cursor jumps to bottom

2003-01-28 Thread Geoff Lane
On 28 January 2003, 12:46, mm Meister wrote:

   When I forward an email, I like to top post a note along with it.
   Why does the cursor first jump to the bottom? The second time I try
   to click in front of the forwarded portion, it works fine. I realize
   this probably is a feature, not a bug, but can someone tell me how
   to turn it off?
~~~

The position of the cursor is controlled entirely by the template used
when forwarding. If you have a special Forward template enabled for
the user, group, or mail folder you must edit that; otherwise, edit
the default Forward template for the account like this:

1. From the Account menu, choose Properties.
2. Expand Templates.
3. Click the Forward template.
4. Search for the text, %Cursor
5. Relocate %Cursor to the cursor position you prefer.

HTH,

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Re: Forwarding messges - cursor jumps to bottom

2003-01-28 Thread Anne
Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 12:46:24 PM, mm wrote:

mM   When I forward an email, I like to top post a note along with it.
mM   Why does the cursor first jump to the bottom? The second time I try
mM   to click in front of the forwarded portion, it works fine. I realize
mM   this probably is a feature, not a bug, but can someone tell me how
mM   to turn it off?


This is in the default Forward template (Account » Properties »
Templates » Foward) thus:


This is a forwarded message

From: %OFromName %OFromAddr
To: %OToList
Date: %ODateEn, %OTimeLongEn
Subject: %OSubj

===8==Original message text===
%Text
===8===End of original message text===
%Cursor


You'll see the last bit above is the %Cursor line - that is where your
mouse curser jumps to automatically.  To add a note *above* the
forwarded message you need to move that entry in the Forward template
to the top of the template...  e.g.


%Cursor

From: %OFromName %OFromAddr
To: %OToList
Date: %ODateEn, %OTimeLongEn
Subject: %OSubj

===8==Original message text===
%Text
===8===End of original message text===



Then the cursor will be at the top of the message to be forwarded and
you can add your own custom messsage.

If you always use the same message you can of course add that into the
template as well. :-)

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Re[2]: Quoting selected text in a reply

2003-01-28 Thread Iain Harrison
On Tuesday, January 28, 2003 1:25:44 PM Eriks wrote:

 Just select text and press F4

That's great, thanks. Where are the helpful hints that tell you stuff
like that hidden?

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Re[3]: Quoting selected text in a reply

2003-01-28 Thread Deborah W
On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 1:58:29 PM, Iain Harrison wrote:

 Just select text and press F4

IH That's great, thanks. Where are the helpful hints that tell you stuff
IH like that hidden?

That particular one is hidden in the Specials menu at the top, or
under Specials when you right-click the message in the message-list.
There are a lot of things in TB which don't appear where you might
expect them, and the right-click menus often offer more options than
those at the top of the screen - but it's worth digging around because
there are some gems in there :-)

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Re: Quoting selected text in a reply

2003-01-28 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Iain,

On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, at 13:58:29 GMT + (1/28/2003, 7:58 AM -0500 GMT
here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 That's great, thanks. Where are the helpful hints that tell you stuff
 like that hidden?

Besides what Deborah said you might want to add this link to your
browswer.

http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut_eng.html

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Re: how do i filter out mails without a TO: in the selective download

2003-01-28 Thread Jurgen Haug
Hello Allie,

Monday, January 27, 2003, 10:32:52 PM, you wrote:


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 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
 Jurgen Haug [JH] wrote:'

JH I keep getting spam that has no TO: in the header. I mean it's not
JH just empty, there is no TO: at all. How can I look for not
JH existing in the selective download? I think I cannot use one of
JH those cryptic 'regular expressions' in the selective download?
JH (not that I would know then what to do ;-)

 String: ^To:  Location: Kludges  Presence: No

 Enable 'regular expressions' in the filter options.

I really have an understanding problem, I think. I can't use regular
expressions in this selective download, no? I once tried a word list
filter for the selective download and it did not work. Something like
the signal string being fuck|penis|viagra and so on. Or was that not right
either? I tried the setting 'match any string as a regular expression'
on the next tab. It then did not download any mail anymore! So I put
each word just like that into a new line and set  'any string match',
meaning no regex anymore.
Can I put screenshots of the window in this mails to make it better
understandable? Or is that anti-netiquette?

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Re[3]: Forwarding messges - cursor jumps to bottom

2003-01-28 Thread Andre Wichartz
Hello mm,

On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 08:20:02 -0500 GMT (which was 14:20 local
time), mm Meister wrote:

mM Thank you very much, Andre.

You're welcome :)

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Re: Quoting selected text in a reply

2003-01-28 Thread Gerard

ON Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 3:12:26 PM, you wrote:
DW There are a lot of things in TB which don't appear where you might
DW expect them, and the right-click menus often offer more options than
DW those at the top of the screen - but it's worth digging around because
DW there are some gems in there :-)

Hi Deborah,

  I personally think that TB! lacks intuitive action. For instance with
  the reply-quoting-selected-text I would have like to be able to mark
  text and press the standard reply button/action and because there is
  no marked text TB! would use only that to reply.

  Just my to €0.02, although TB! is still by far the best I ever used
  and believe me I used a few :(
  
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Re: Quoting selected text in a reply

2003-01-28 Thread Jonathan Angliss
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On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, Gerard wrote...


DW There are a lot of things in TB which don't appear where you
DW might expect them, and the right-click menus often offer more
DW options than those at the top of the screen - but it's worth
DW digging around because there are some gems in there :-)

 I personally think that TB! lacks intuitive action. For instance
 with the reply-quoting-selected-text I would have like to be able
 to mark text and press the standard reply button/action and because
 there is no marked text TB! would use only that to reply.

Like the F4 key for example? I can see your idea though, if you have
text selected, then on replying, use that text only. Fairly simple to
do I'd imagine.

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Re[2]: Forwarding messges - cursor jumps to bottom

2003-01-28 Thread mm Meister
Hello Anne,

Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 8:40:08 AM, you wrote:

A If you always use the same message you can of course add that into the
A template as well. :-)

I don't, but if I did would I have to put a percent sign in front of
it?

Thanks so much for the help, I should have done this ages ago - it
works like gangbusters.

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Re[2]: Quoting selected text in a reply

2003-01-28 Thread myob

On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 13:55:40 -0600 GMT(28/01/2003, 7:55 PM
+ GMT), Jonathan Angliss wrote:


JA On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, Gerard wrote...


 I personally think that TB! lacks intuitive action. For instance
 with the reply-quoting-selected-text I would have like to be able
 to mark text and press the standard reply button/action and because
 there is no marked text TB! would use only that to reply.

JA Like the F4 key for example?

Using that's always made me particularly nervous, as I'm so
used to pressing it together with control.


JA I can see your idea though, if you have text selected,
JA then on replying, use that text only. Fairly simple to
JA do I'd imagine.


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Re[2]: Forwarding messges - cursor jumps to bottom

2003-01-28 Thread mm Meister
Hello Geoff,

Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 8:20:59 AM, you wrote:


GL edit the default Forward template for the account like this:

GL 1. From the Account menu, choose Properties.
GL 2. Expand Templates.
GL 3. Click the Forward template.
GL 4. Search for the text, %Cursor
GL 5. Relocate %Cursor to the cursor position you prefer.

GL HTH,

 Yes, it helped enormously. Bats to the rescue!

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Re: Quoting selected text in a reply

2003-01-28 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hello Gerard,

   I personally think that TB! lacks intuitive action. For instance with
   the reply-quoting-selected-text I would have like to be able to mark
   text and press the standard reply button/action and because there is
   no marked text TB! would use only that to reply.

Select (mark) text and Shift+Click on the Reply button. Like I did
just now.

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Re: Quoting selected text in a reply

2003-01-28 Thread Jonathan Angliss
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On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, Miguel A. Urech wrote...

 Select (mark) text and Shift+Click on the Reply button. Like I did
 just now.

Ahh... still learning... very good... thanks for that one :)

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Re[4]: Virus checking on outgoing mail

2003-01-28 Thread Mark Wieder
Joseph-

Thanks. I was going to add that, too, but forgot about it in the
process of writing the other points. It's very easy to add something
to a tagline signature...

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This message has been checked by my superduper virus checker.
It doesn't have one.
Don't you feel better now?
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Now a question about losing settings

2003-01-28 Thread Iain Harrison
Heartened by the speedy reply to my last question, here's another:

I have two accounts defined in TB: one for work, one for non-work.
Bother collect mail when requested.

I alos have a third account, which collects spam, and I collect it
from time to time to check for false positives in the spam-trapping
systems on my mail server.

The problem is that every time I restart TheBat!, it loses the mail
server settings of the third account. It forgets the server name, the
user name for smtp and the user name and password for pop3.

Any suggestions?

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Re: Now a question about losing settings

2003-01-28 Thread Ricardo van Eck
Hello Iain,

Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 22:17:39, you wrote:

IH Heartened by the speedy reply to my last question, here's another:

IH I have two accounts defined in TB: one for work, one for non-work.
IH Bother collect mail when requested.

IH I alos have a third account, which collects spam, and I collect it
IH from time to time to check for false positives in the spam-trapping
IH systems on my mail server.

IH The problem is that every time I restart TheBat!, it loses the mail
IH server settings of the third account. It forgets the server name, the
IH user name for smtp and the user name and password for pop3.

IH Any suggestions?



This was a Beta problem (1.62b1/4) But it was solved in Beta5, witch
you are using. Try to delete the ACCOUNT.CFG directory in the
\MAIL\accountname\ directory of The Bat!

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Re[2]: Now a question about losing settings

2003-01-28 Thread Ricardo van Eck
Hello Ricardo,

Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 22:28:17, you wrote:

RvE Hello Iain,

RvE Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 22:17:39, you wrote:

IH Heartened by the speedy reply to my last question, here's another:

IH I have two accounts defined in TB: one for work, one for non-work.
IH Bother collect mail when requested.

IH I alos have a third account, which collects spam, and I collect it
IH from time to time to check for false positives in the spam-trapping
IH systems on my mail server.

IH The problem is that every time I restart TheBat!, it loses the mail
IH server settings of the third account. It forgets the server name, the
IH user name for smtp and the user name and password for pop3.

IH Any suggestions?



RvE This was a Beta problem (1.62b1/4)

Correction, 1.63b1/4

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Re: Now a question about losing settings

2003-01-28 Thread telepro
Hello Iain,

 The problem is that every time I restart TheBat!, it loses the mail
 server settings of the third account. It forgets the server name, the
 user name for smtp and the user name and password for pop3.
 Any suggestions?


I had the same problem in 1.63 beta 4, it was a bug of the version,
resolved in the beta 5 ; Personnaly, I changed and returned to the
1.62i

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Re: Forwarding messges - cursor jumps to bottom

2003-01-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo mm,

On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 15:04:37 -0500GMT (28-1-03, 21:04 +0100GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

A If you always use the same message you can of course add that into
A the template as well. :-)

mM I don't, but if I did would I have to put a percent sign in front
mM of it?

No, that's only needed for macros.

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Re: Now a question about losing settings

2003-01-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Iain,

On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 21:17:39 +GMT (28-1-03, 22:17 +0100GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

IH The problem is that every time I restart TheBat!, it loses the
IH mail server settings of the third account. It forgets the server
IH name, the user name for smtp and the user name and password for
IH pop3.

Could be related to access rights in the windows registry.

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Re: Quoting selected text in a reply

2003-01-28 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Miguel!

On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 2:17 PM, you wrote:
  snip 
M Select (mark) text and Shift+Click on the Reply button. Like I did
M just now.

Wow, this is so much better than F4!  Thanks a bunch!!

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Re[2]: Now a question about losing settings

2003-01-28 Thread Iain Harrison
On Tuesday, January 28, 2003 9:28:17 PM Ricardo wrote:

 This was a Beta problem (1.62b1/4) But it was solved in Beta5, witch
 you are using. Try to delete the ACCOUNT.CFG directory in the
 \MAIL\accountname\ directory of The Bat!

I think you've found the problem, at least. For the problem account,
that file was a directory. For the other acounts, it is a file.

I'll report back after I've restarted the program.


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Re[3]: Now a question about losing settings

2003-01-28 Thread Iain Harrison
On Tuesday, January 28, 2003 10:04:43 PM Iain wrote:

 I'll report back after I've restarted the program.

Seems OK now. Presumably the existence of the spurious directory was
preventing the file being saved with the same name.

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Re[3]: Forwarding messges - cursor jumps to bottom

2003-01-28 Thread Anne
Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 8:04:37 PM, mm wrote:

mM I don't, but if I did would I have to put a percent sign in front of
mM it?

No if you wanted to add some plain text - e.g.

This is a forwarded message from your web host...

you would just type that text into the template as it is without the %
sign.


mM Thanks so much for the help, I should have done this ages ago - it
mM works like gangbusters.

You're welcome. Templates are such great timesavers - I use them all
the time! :-)

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Re: how do i filter out mails without a TO: in the selective download

2003-01-28 Thread Allie Martin
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Jurgen Haug [JH] wrote:'

JH I really have an understanding problem, I think. I can't use regular
JH expressions in this selective download, no?

Yes you can.

JH I once tried a word list filter for the selective download and it
JH did not work. Something like the signal string being
JH f**k|penis|viagra and so on.

If you're going to use an expression like that, you need to enclose it
in brackets.

(string1|string2|string3) etc.

However, disabling regular expressions and entering the strings as below
would yield the same effect:

string1
string2
string3

You could create a text file and use the 'load signal strings from the
file' option.

JH [] So I put each word just like that into a new line and set
JH 'any string match', meaning no regex anymore.

That should work.

JH Can I put screenshots of the window in this mails to make it better
JH understandable? Or is that anti-netiquette?

Attachments aren't allowed on this list to help prevent the spread
of viruses.

You could upload the capture to a server and then provide the URL.

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Re[2]: Quoting selected text in a reply

2003-01-28 Thread mm Meister
Hello Miguel,

Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 3:17:34 PM, you wrote:

MAU Select (mark) text and Shift+Click on the Reply button. Like I did
MAU just now.

Oh, that's fabulous. I just tried it.

Thanks for that.

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Re: Quoting selected text in a reply

2003-01-28 Thread Adam

Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 10:28:29 AM, you wrote:

 Just select text and press F4

IH That's great, thanks. Where are the helpful hints that tell you stuff
IH like that hidden?

Just go to Menu Navigator, and type 'Selected text'.

Unfortunately, Windows XP users can't do that yet.  Any word when they
were going to fix that?

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Re: Quoting selected text in a reply

2003-01-28 Thread Paul Cartwright

On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 4:55 PM, you wrote:

M Select (mark) text and Shift+Click on the Reply button. Like I did
M just now.

MB Wow, this is so much better than F4!  Thanks a bunch!!

lets see... BOTH:
highlight text

2 methods:
1-hold down the shift key and click the mouse on REPLY
2-tap F4

seems F4 is less keystrokes, what am I missing??


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Re: Quoting selected text in a reply

2003-01-28 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Paul!

On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 5:31 PM, you wrote:

 snip 

P lets see... BOTH:
P highlight text

P 2 methods:
P 1-hold down the shift key and click the mouse on REPLY
P 2-tap F4

P seems F4 is less keystrokes, what am I missing??

That I am a mouse person, with old-fashioned typewriter skills. So,
like with playing the piano, my little finger knows without thinking
where the shift key is.

So I highlight and in one motion move to the green arrow Reply button.
To hold the shift key down is for me as automatic as for writing a
capital letter.

To each his own? As you wrote to me once about fishing v. scuba
diving. (At least, I think that was what you were saying.) :)

I have to *hunt* that F4 button. It is marked on the side on my
keyboard. Has some kind of tiny words on top. I have to do an absolute
Count-Down for it! I am not very good at counting. :)

Just call me different. :)

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Re: Quoting selected text in a reply

2003-01-28 Thread Paul Cartwright

On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 6:54 PM, you wrote:

P seems F4 is less keystrokes, what am I missing??

MB That I am a mouse person, with old-fashioned typewriter skills. So,
MB like with playing the piano, my little finger knows without thinking
MB where the shift key is.

MB So I highlight and in one motion move to the green arrow Reply button.
MB To hold the shift key down is for me as automatic as for writing a
MB capital letter.

MB To each his own? As you wrote to me once about fishing v. scuba
MB diving. (At least, I think that was what you were saying.) :)

MB I have to *hunt* that F4 button. It is marked on the side on my
MB keyboard. Has some kind of tiny words on top. I have to do an absolute
MB Count-Down for it! I am not very good at counting. :)

MB Just call me different. :)

well, no problem, that's why they make it easy for both types of users.
I was a command-line junkie for 15 years, so hightilight-F4 is a ntural
for me. I did the Mavis Beacon typing tutor ( more than once) but I keep
forgetting, I always look at the keyboard as I type ( or I make
mistakes) and the command line is MUCH more my STYLE. I can appreciate
your style, which is why I asked. It seemed easier TO ME, but obviously
isn't as easy for you.
I'll just call you Mary, you don't have to be different:)



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Re[2]: Quoting selected text in a reply

2003-01-28 Thread mm Meister
Hello Mary,

Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 6:54:10 PM, you wrote:

MB I have to *hunt* that F4 button. It is marked on the side on my
MB keyboard. Has some kind of tiny words on top. I have to do an absolute
MB Count-Down for it! I am not very good at counting. :)

MB Just call me different. :)

 Yes. I'm different, too. :) The F keys were never something my 10
 fingered typing learned to cope with. I suspect this is exactly why
 TheBat! gives us a couple of different ways to do the same thing;
 they're thinking about us old folks... :)

 Thanks again to Miguel for pointing this out.

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Re[2]: 2-5 second delay on XP

2003-01-28 Thread James Van Horn
Hi Mike,

  Wow, you were right!  I upgraded my Detonator drivers from 4.071 to
4.109 and that did the trick!

In all my years of experience with computers, I've never seen a video
driver affect just 1 program.

Thanks,
James


Mike One suggestion - that sounds like a video card problem rather than a
Mike Bat problem  have you got the latest drivers (and, yes, it can happen
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Re[3]: 2-5 second delay on XP

2003-01-28 Thread Mike Alexander
Hi James,

Wednesday, January 29, 2003, 3:28:26 AM, you wrote:

JVH Hi Mike,

JVH   Wow, you were right!  I upgraded my Detonator drivers from 4.071 to
JVH 4.109 and that did the trick!

JVH In all my years of experience with computers, I've never seen a video
JVH driver affect just 1 program.

JVH Thanks,
JVH James

I used to do computer support at one time and I've seen all sorts of
weird things happen including that particular problem (different
program, but the same result). Glad I could help.

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Re: Quoting selected text in a reply

2003-01-28 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Paul!

On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 6:40 PM, you wrote:

P ... seems F4 is less keystrokes, what am I missing??

MB That I am a mouse person, with old-fashioned typewriter skills.
MB So I highlight and in one motion move to the green arrow Reply button.
MB To hold the shift key down is for me as automatic as for writing a
MB capital letter.  ...
MB Just call me different. :)

P ... well, no problem, that's why they make it easy for both types of
P users. ...

Except, I learned about F4 early on. And only tonight after three
months with The Bat! did I stumble, simply by lurking on tbudl, on
this wonderful little energy-saver for the arthritic hand. :)

P I'll just call you Mary, you don't have to be different:)

Really, each of us is different, though. And that is what's so
marvelous about The Bat! It can fit the needs of everyone who prefers
to communicate in plain text. And even accommodate, on the side, our
friends and relatives who insist on sending us html messages.

Words can't express how delighted I was to get this Quoting technique
that Miguel told us about!

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Re: Quoting selected text in a reply

2003-01-28 Thread Mary Bull
Hello mm!

On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 8:13 PM, you wrote:

snip

MB Just call me different. :)

m  Yes. I'm different, too. :) The F keys were never something my 10
m  fingered typing learned to cope with. I suspect this is exactly why
m  TheBat! gives us a couple of different ways to do the same thing;
m  they're thinking about us old folks... :)

m  Thanks again to Miguel for pointing this out.

And thanks to tbudl's moderators for letting me lurk and then write
back my pleasure in this new toy Miguel sent us, twice!

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Marking filtered messages auto read

2003-01-28 Thread chinchi
Hi,
  I'm new to this list and this is my first post. I hope it's okay if
  I'm asking this evenif it's been asked before cos I couldn't find it.

  I want all new messages that get filtered a particular folder when
  receiving mail, to automatically be marked as read. How do I do set
  this up?

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Re: Marking filtered messages auto read

2003-01-28 Thread Scott Frederick
Hello chinchi,

Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 10:20:58 PM, you wrote:

c I want all new messages that get filtered a particular folder when
c receiving mail, to automatically be marked as read. How do I do set
c this up?

Under Sorting Office, find the Actions tab - tick the box marked
Mark the message as read (it is at the top).

I think that you have to do it for each filter that sorts into your
folder.

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Re[2]: Marking filtered messages auto read

2003-01-28 Thread chinchi
SF Under Sorting Office, find the Actions tab - tick the box marked
SF Mark the message as read (it is at the top).

SF I think that you have to do it for each filter that sorts into your
SF folder.

Thanks for an immediate reply! Sorry I missed asking this one before.
What to do if my mail server is filtering the messages in to some
folders and I get them sorted already when receiving in The Bat! How
to mark these automatically read as soon as they download?

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Re[2]: Not funny Bat, my address book ?

2003-01-28 Thread Homesick Mac
Hello Paul,

Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 1:28:05 PM, you answered my question:

PC On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 4:31 AM, you wrote:

HM I'm  wondering  why  sometimes  TheBat  wouldn't load the Address Book
HM module  as  it is. I mean, I've got my e-mail addresses in the Mac's
HM Address  Book  with 6 sub-address books with categorized contacts etc.
HM It  works  fine  mostly but  sometimes  when  I open it (either with F8 or by
HM clicking on the Address Book icon)  my contacts are gone, and all of a
HM sudden,  I've  got this default Address Book as when you start TheBat!
HM right after the clean install.

PC if you created a new group, did you switch the default AB to that
PC group??
PC in the addressbook, highlight your group and click the EDIT menu. Is
PC there a checkbox by the USE THIS AS DEFAULT??

 Yes,  it is checked as a default, I did that when I first created
 the Address Book. So I don't know why this was happening.

 I've upgraded to 1.62i and everything was fine this morning. I'll
 keep my fingers crossed :-)

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