Re: How to remove the X-Mailer from headers???
Hello! Fri Feb 28 2003 17:35:10 Newsacct [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: N I am looking for a way to remove the x-mailer header info. N I really don't need to have anyone know what mailer I am using. ^^ JFYI: It's simple to determine your mailer even without the X-Mailer header. -- Yours sincerely, Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) http://www.andris.msk.ru/ Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filters not firing
I've got a 'read messages' filter that, for messages in a particular colour group, moves a message to a different folder. It works a treat, except, if I mark as read an entire thread. The whole thread was in the colour group but stayed put when marked using ctrl-shift-m. I had to mark them all unread and then mark the read individually to get them to move. Is this right? -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ... and anything below is beyond my control - sorry ... Estate Computer Systems Limited Westgate House, Westgate, Sleaford, Lincolnshire, NG34 7RJ Registered in England No 1604453. VAT No. 416 2922 63 ECS are members of the following trade organisations: The Microsoft Certified Partner Programme, The Borland User Group, and PISCES (Property Information System Common Exchange Standard) To find out more about ECS why not visit our website http://www.estatecomputers.co.uk The information in this email (and any attachment) may be for the intended recipient only. If you know you are not the intended recipient, please do not use or disclose the information in any way and please delete this email (and any attachment from your system). See http://www.estatecomputers.co.uk/email.htm for our full E-mail communication conditions. (If the above URLs do not appear as links you may need to copy the details into your browser address line to access these pages). Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Keyboard Shortcuts
Can anyone tell me how to reset the keyboard shortcuts to the 'factory defaults' please? -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ... and anything below is beyond my control - sorry ... Estate Computer Systems Limited Westgate House, Westgate, Sleaford, Lincolnshire, NG34 7RJ Registered in England No 1604453. VAT No. 416 2922 63 ECS are members of the following trade organisations: The Microsoft Certified Partner Programme, The Borland User Group, and PISCES (Property Information System Common Exchange Standard) To find out more about ECS why not visit our website http://www.estatecomputers.co.uk The information in this email (and any attachment) may be for the intended recipient only. If you know you are not the intended recipient, please do not use or disclose the information in any way and please delete this email (and any attachment from your system). See http://www.estatecomputers.co.uk/email.htm for our full E-mail communication conditions. (If the above URLs do not appear as links you may need to copy the details into your browser address line to access these pages). Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Macro to switch macros...
MDP %ACCOUNTNAME is the macro you need. %ACCOUNT is used to change the Cracked it! Thomas, Marck, thank you. -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ... and anything below is beyond my control - sorry ... Estate Computer Systems Limited Westgate House, Westgate, Sleaford, Lincolnshire, NG34 7RJ Registered in England No 1604453. VAT No. 416 2922 63 ECS are members of the following trade organisations: The Microsoft Certified Partner Programme, The Borland User Group, and PISCES (Property Information System Common Exchange Standard) To find out more about ECS why not visit our website http://www.estatecomputers.co.uk The information in this email (and any attachment) may be for the intended recipient only. If you know you are not the intended recipient, please do not use or disclose the information in any way and please delete this email (and any attachment from your system). See http://www.estatecomputers.co.uk/email.htm for our full E-mail communication conditions. (If the above URLs do not appear as links you may need to copy the details into your browser address line to access these pages). Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keyboard Shortcuts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Stuart, @3-Mar-2003, 07:18 Stuart Hemming [SH] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: SH Can anyone tell me how to reset the keyboard shortcuts to the 'factory SH defaults' please? A guess - delete the shortcut.cfg file from the MAIL folder? (well, rename it so that you can get it back if it kills TB). Exit TB before trying this. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+YyY4OeQkq5KdzaARAqj2AJ9ny/R24xSFiCqZSdUu4Vja9OtR/QCg5ySn z+xvu+GOZCkzka4t7Z2HbKc= =eqER -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stupid problem with quoted names
Hello Carsten, Maybe this one helps you. Its actual purpose is to add list names to the To-address when replying. The first %IF checks for the existence of characters in From-name that make quoting neccessary. Thanks a lot, it certainly does the trick :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Selective download filter
Hello, I've started playing, nervously, with the Selective Download feature. But while my tests all seem to work nicely, the actions appear not to be logged by TB (ctrl-shift-A). Is there some way that I can see what decisions have been made by TB on my behalf before I use this feature for real? Regards, -- Nick Using TheBat!: v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keyboard Shortcuts
MDP A guess - delete the shortcut.cfg file from the MAIL folder? That did it. TVM. -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ... and anything below is beyond my control - sorry ... Estate Computer Systems Limited Westgate House, Westgate, Sleaford, Lincolnshire, NG34 7RJ Registered in England No 1604453. VAT No. 416 2922 63 ECS are members of the following trade organisations: The Microsoft Certified Partner Programme, The Borland User Group, and PISCES (Property Information System Common Exchange Standard) To find out more about ECS why not visit our website http://www.estatecomputers.co.uk The information in this email (and any attachment) may be for the intended recipient only. If you know you are not the intended recipient, please do not use or disclose the information in any way and please delete this email (and any attachment from your system). See http://www.estatecomputers.co.uk/email.htm for our full E-mail communication conditions. (If the above URLs do not appear as links you may need to copy the details into your browser address line to access these pages). Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Group address list
Dear Bats, Is there a way I can display all the addresses in the To: field when sending an email to a Group in my address book, rather than it just displaying GroupName list? The reason why is that sometimes I dont need to send it to one or two people in the group list, and I could just delete their entry in the To: field before sending. I used to do this kind of thing in Eudora (I'll never go back though!!!) -- Cheers, Ray Version 1.62 Xmas Edition Win2K pro XP home Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Group address list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ray, @3-Mar-2003, 10:29 Ray Thomson [RT] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: RT Is there a way I can display all the addresses in the To: field when RT sending an email to a Group in my address book, rather than it just displaying RT GroupName list? Use the Address Picker to select the addresses (the little address card icon at the end of the To: field). Select all of the names in the group and use the single '' icon to copy them to the TO panel. Then use the '' icon to remove the addresses you don't want. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+YzD7OeQkq5KdzaARAhPvAKDfdr3ys6yrfAJe5tbgu07FnBHHnQCgkxIu kjscddpcrv5GDWcFnhk5W74= =Cxh8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Group address list
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No. You'd have to do it another way.
Using Shift-Enter in the To: field will bring up the Pick E-mail
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Re: How to remove the X-Mailer from headers???
Hallo Andrey, On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:46:30 +0300GMT (3-3-03, 9:46 +0100, where I live), you wrote: JFYI: It's simple to determine your mailer even without the X-Mailer header. How? -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
update shared folder
hi, is there a way to update a shared folder automatically? i have updatest to v1.62i but the behavior is the same as in 1.53. any hints? thx alexander Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Group address list
Hallo Ray, On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:29:21 +GMT (3-3-03, 11:29 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RT Is there a way I can display all the addresses in the To: field RT when sending an email to a Group in my address book, rather than RT it just displaying GroupName list? Not if you select the group by typing the name. RT The reason why is that sometimes I dont need to send it to one or RT two people in the group list, and I could just delete their entry RT in the To: field before sending. In those cases, don't type the group name. Start a new message, click on the address book icon most right in the To:-bar. Select the group you want to use and add the whole group with the button, delete those contacts that don't need to be reached. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: LIKELY SPAM: Re[2]: LIKELY SPAM: Re[2]: plugin for the bat!:vampire
On Monday, March 3, 2003, 12:24:59 AM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MDP Because the *nix propeller heads that think they own the Internet MDP don't think that any serious mail server user should hide behind a MDP dial-up connection. Really? Then how do they think those of us in areas where the *only* option is dial-up are supposed to work?! Despite living in an urban area less than ten miles from the largest city in Northern Ireland, we have no cable anything, no broadband access, not even a choice of telephone providers without plugging the phone into a re-routing box. Dial-up is the only choice for anyone in this area ( in many others). -- Deborah Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: LIKELY SPAM
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Deborah, @3-Mar-2003, 11:19 Deborah W [DW] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: DW On Monday, March 3, 2003, 12:24:59 AM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MDP Because the *nix propeller heads that think they own the Internet MDP don't think that any serious mail server user should hide behind a MDP dial-up connection. DW Really? Then how do they think those of us in areas where the DW *only* option is dial-up are supposed to work?! Exactly! DW ... Dial-up is the only choice for anyone in this area ( in DW many others). And here. I have a static IP address on a dialup ISDN. I have been running my own mail server for my own domain (silverstones.com) for nearly 8 years now. I have been a computer communications professional for 18 years. Suddenly I'm being told If you don't like our rules, then go find your own Internet. We were here before you. and You are just another bozo clueless home hobbist among a veritable sea of them. Why don't you just go away now and leave the running of the Internet to the professionals. (You clearly aren't one of us.). This is Ron Guilmette's way of explaining why the blacklists can do as they please and why he considers that there is no possibility that I know what I am doing, his evidence being that I only have a dialup connection. This was an argument about a proxy server that was open for a couple of days before I correctly re-configured it. Without any help from him or anyone else. These extracts from his last couple of communications were the clean bits. He takes rude into a whole new dimension! There really should be some way of letting him know that, no, actually this is *our* Internet and if he wants to play god he will have to find somewhere else to do it. But more and more ISPs use blacklists and even SpamCop uses his Monkeys.com open relay blacklist :-(((. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+Y0JxOeQkq5KdzaARArIlAKCKxQK+7hAkNmXZLmsDtU4JA20AkgCfX3yF IJThXMc0GJO8BqF/XtmPan4= =F/6n -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Group address list
Hi Roelof and the gang! Monday, March 3, 2003, 10:51:46 AM, you wrote: RO Hallo Ray, RO On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:29:21 +GMT (3-3-03, 11:29 +0100, where I RO live), you wrote: RT Is there a way I can display all the addresses in the To: field RT when sending an email to a Group in my address book, rather than RT it just displaying GroupName list? RO Not if you select the group by typing the name. RO In those cases, don't type the group name. Start a new message, click RO on the address book icon most right in the To:-bar. Select the group RO you want to use and add the whole group with the button, delete RO those contacts that don't need to be reached. Thanks all for your replies, your solutions sound fine, no probs. -- Cheers, Ray Version 1.62 Xmas Edition Win2K pro XP home Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Group address list
Dear Ray, --- Ray Thomson / Montag, 03.03.2003, 11:29:21 Group address list The reason why ... and I could just delete their entry in the To: field before sending. You also could go to the address book, highlight the addresses you want as recipient. Press 'Ctrl + Return' to write the new msg. -- best regards Eddie Powered by The Bat! v1.63 Beta/6 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 PGP (public) is available: www.EddieCastelli.com/pgpkey/ Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re:re:re:re:..ree ree!!Re: LIKELY SPAM: Re[2]: LIKELY SPAM:Re[2]: plugin for the bat!: vampire
On Sunday, March 2, 2003, 10:54 PM, you wrote: MW I think this subject line is getting a little out of hand, too... MW -Mark Wieder were you around for the Potatoe Guy thread? now THERE was a MONSTER!! -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: distaster strikes :-(
Hi Januk, Saturday, March 01, 2003,you wrote: JF I have 5 accounts. If I open one of my lesser accounts that way, would I be JF able to change the settings? Or do I really have to mess up my main account? Sorry I'm being a bit dense, but how is it that you're posting with TB? If you've gotten into TB, can't you check the Network Administration settings to check the privileges of each account? Not dense at all. I run a network, and have 25 machines. And one at home. Only on my own machines I run TB! (And quite a few other mail clients. So far The Bat beat them all.) -- Sawat Dee Khrup! Jos Flachsmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Printing header template
Dear Bats, I have just noticed that when I print a message sent to multiple recipients (several in the To: field and BCC,CC for example) only the first recipient in the To: field gets printed. My mail header template is as follows From : %FromName To : %ToName %ToAddr Date : %ODateEn %OTimeLongEn Subject : %Subj Folder : %FolderName/%AccountName Attached : %ATTACHMENTS Can anyone help with a template that will display all the recipients addresses (weather or not they are in any address book etc.)? as this is handy when I look back on printed mail (did I sent it the correct address etc?!!) -- Cheers, Ray Version 1.62 Xmas Edition Win2K pro XP home Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How to remove the X-Mailer from headers???
Estimados seguidores del tbudl arroba thebat.dutaint.com: En relación a lo que Andrey en su momento posteó: N I am looking for a way to remove the x-mailer header info. N I really don't need to have anyone know what mailer I am using. in the web of netvicious http://netvicious.iespana.es/netvicious or maybe http://netvicious.iespana.es/ you can download minirelay, a simple program to send mail. With this you can delete the x-* info. AGSAA JFYI: It's simple to determine your mailer even without the X-Mailer AGSAA header. how? -- Se despide, Task Control mail: TaskControl at SoftHome dot net correo: TaskControl arroba SoftHome punto net Usando: - Windows 98 4.10.1998 - AVG 6.0 Free Edition - The Bat! 1.63 Beta/7 - Trillian PRO 1.0 B Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments Separately or in Message Base?
Hello Mark Wieder, On or about Sunday, March 02, 2003 at 19:51:27GMT -0800 (which was 10:51 PM in the tropics where I live) Mark Wieder posted: MW One caveat that I should point out: if you have an account that is MW keeping attachments inline and you then switch it to storing them MW externally, it only takes effect from that point on. In other MW words, any previously received messages with attachments still MW have them inline. This hasn't caused any problems as far as I can MW tell, but it's annoying not to be able to move the existing ones MW out of the database. All you have to do is RE-Filter the folder with the attachments! I use an 'overflow' temporary folder to hold all the messages in, so that all of them are 'detached' to the separate folder. The original filter has already been modified to reflect the new destination folder. After re-filtering, I then rename the folder back to the original name (a two step process) by deleting the original folder which is now EMPTY, then renaming the temp folder back to the original name. It has worked every time for me. Never lost ONE attachment. -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike 5 out of 4 people don't understand fractions /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML). -- Using TheBat! v1.62i hamstrung by Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1' -- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Printing header template
Hallo Ray, On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 13:28:21 +GMT (3-3-03, 14:28 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RT Can anyone help with a template that will display all the RT recipients addresses (weather or not they are in any address book RT etc.)? Change this RT To : %ToName %ToAddr into: To : %ToList CC : %CCList BCC: %BCCList -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
exporting the list of BCC's name
Hellow tbudl arroba thebat.dutaint.com Think in it: You will have a meeting in 5 days. And you need send a mail to a friends that will go to a this meeting. But you do not have the complete list of mails. You makes a mail that say: the meeting is in..., please foward this mail to friends tahat no was been recibed this mail. The problem is: If you put the addresses in the mail To or CC the people do not like it, you need use BCC I need export the names of the people that is in the mail to a body of the mail. example: --- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: BCC: Jhon [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rose P [EMAIL PROTECTED], ... SUBJECT: Meteing tomorrow Text: Tomorrow in ...blah blah... resend this mail to people that are not in my address book. Best Regards I PS: this mail was sended to: - Jhon - Rose P - ... I need a macro that create the list of people in the PS: zone. Note: i'm only public the names, not the addresses. -- Best Regards, Task Control mail: TaskControl at SoftHome dot net correo: TaskControl arroba SoftHome punto net Usando: - Windows 98 4.10.1998 - AVG 6.0 Free Edition - The Bat! 1.63 Beta/7 - Trillian PRO 1.0 B Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Printing header template
Thanks Roelof! works a treat! Monday, March 3, 2003, 1:52:03 PM, you wrote: RT Can anyone help with a template that will display all the RT recipients addresses (weather or not they are in any address book RT etc.)? RO Change this RT To : %ToName %ToAddr RO into: RO To : %ToList RO CC : %CCList RO BCC: %BCCList -- Cheers, Ray Version 1.62 Xmas Edition Win2K pro XP home Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: exporting the list of BCC's name
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi taskcontrol, @3-Mar-2003, 10:55 -0400 (14:55 UK time) Task Control [T] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: ... snip T I need a macro that create the list of people in the PS: zone. T Note: i'm only public the names, not the addresses. There are a couple of macros in the library - Recipient list and Recipient list - indented that could be modified to do what you want. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+Y2JnOeQkq5KdzaARAkoaAJ9ozwpiZTRdCRG2kRRXnjvjLfPQSgCgsa21 ipm5//BpPZ42NGzb4t/iFW8= =98mP -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: LIKELY SPAM: Re[2]: LIKELY SPAM: Re[2]: plugin for the bat!:vampire
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, March 02, 2003, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... MDP FYI - Osiris also BLs Dial-up users like me Z Why do they do that? Because the *nix propeller heads that think they own the Internet don't think that any serious mail server user should hide behind a dial-up connection. One such runs monkeys.com, a major open relay blacklist, and goes by the name of Ron Guilmette. I got a major roasting from him because of my dial-up IP and sub-hosted domain status. This is a slightly unusual view... but I have noticed monkeys.com does blacklist a lot of addresses that it shouldn't. It is often the case that people like the mention will blacklist whole dialup blocks because of constant spam attacks from those blocks. Often the do a blanket mask on that address too, catching a lot of innocent people. This usually means that: a) you're unlikely to be able to run your own mail server b) you're not likely to be able to connect directly with the end smtp server I do think that sometimes it is necessary to block off a whole bunch of addresses, but other times, it is unjust and the people doing the blocking really don't research what they're doing, for example I found the other day that earthlink.net (a fairly large ISP over in the US) had decided to block my line providers whole block, dial up, and static connections. I think they used monkeys.com too. I was removed shortly after I complained about that though. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBPmN5giuD6BT4/R9zEQJIFACgmb9qpyE6/VmhE2N1HYek4OWKnZsAnA95 A5ANe5TyPNORdNYwSmC9Yv9y =v5tr -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: LIKELY SPAM
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, March 03, 2003, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... And here. I have a static IP address on a dialup ISDN. I have been running my own mail server for my own domain (silverstones.com) for nearly 8 years now. I have been a computer communications professional for 18 years. Suddenly I'm being told If you don't like our rules, then go find your own Internet. We were here before you. and You are just another bozo clueless home hobbist among a veritable sea of them. Why don't you just go away now and leave the running of the Internet to the professionals. (You clearly aren't one of us.). I unfortunately think this kind of attitude is what gets the internet in trouble a lot of the times. Most of the people that think they are doing right are in some cases making things worse. If these so called experts were to educate the non-experts in what was wrong, then the need for such systems of abuse would not be needed. It doesn't take long to explain the points of securing a mail server... or even point them to a website with guides... hell, I can pull up two links off the top of my head, and even assist on postfix, and sendmail securing. This is Ron Guilmette's way of explaining why the blacklists can do as they please and why he considers that there is no possibility that I know what I am doing, his evidence being that I only have a dialup connection. This was an argument about a proxy server that was open for a couple of days before I correctly re-configured it. Without any help from him or anyone else. Although I like the system, and the idea of it... It *does* reduce the spam a bit... I think education is a better method of ensuring things are corrected, and reporting abuse is also a better way to go. These extracts from his last couple of communications were the clean bits. He takes rude into a whole new dimension! There really should be some way of letting him know that, no, actually this is *our* Internet and if he wants to play god he will have to find somewhere else to do it. But more and more ISPs use blacklists and even SpamCop uses his Monkeys.com open relay blacklist :-(((. I think using SpamCop as a reporting service is an excellent idea, as it does 90% of the hardwork for those that don't know how to do it. I think also getting SpamCop to use such services as monkeys.com for lookup on information is also a good idea... but I am not sure about spamcop's hosted mail services. I think you unfortunately ran into one of the internet evangelists, who thinks what they do is right, no matter what really is happening. I've always had the view that education is often better than using services such as monkeys.com or ordb.org. I do myself use them, but not an explicit block, I get the mails tagged as sent from open relays, then I often contact the owner of the server, and alert them to the issue. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBPmN75CuD6BT4/R9zEQLPBQCgrdGEVThElE/4RE9ReyHuSDaVuscAoPBy /WjY9Rqu1th+EwcQOzwc25oL =hWGF -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Selective download filter
Hello Nick, On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:08:54 + GMT (03/03/03, 17:08 +0700 GMT), Nick Dutton wrote: Is there some way that I can see what decisions have been made by TB on my behalf before I use this feature for real? No there isn't. Which is one of the reasons whyI don't use this function. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Auf der Verpackung eines Rowenta-Buegeleisens: Die Kleidung nicht wahrend des Tragens buegeln. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
LoVe Cock ?
Hello, I want to add a LoVe Clock counter to all outgoing TB! emails, which list the amount of year(s), month(s), week(s) day(s) since me and my gf (future whife) been together :-) How can I do this in TB! ? I tried %IF, %CALC DATE macros but unsuccessful. Kind Regards, Lennie Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Spill chucking the Subject
Hello all, Any reason why TB doesn't spell check the subject line? Don't you think it should? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: LoVe Cock ?
Hi D, I want ... not repost my questions. -- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spill chucking the Subject
Hallo Miguel, On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 18:24:03 +0100GMT (3-3-03, 18:24 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MAU Any reason why TB doesn't spell check the subject line? Probably because it's not in the message body. MAU Don't you think it should? No. Why? -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spill chucking the Subject
Hello Roelof, MAU Don't you think it should? No. Why? Because I do :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
AVG plug in
I have just installed AVG antivirus. I installed the plug in for thebat but it does not seem to be working. To try to tell, I configured it (options/anti virus) and it shows the .bav file. I verified that email is set up and working in AVG, and set it to certify incoming and outgoing so I could see if it works. I do not see any certification on either in or out bound stuff. I had been using Norton and had set the mail server and userID according to the setup for NAV (pop3.norton.antivirus). I put them back to original after removing NAV. Can someone using AVG please point me in the correct direction? thanks. -- Lou --- __@ -- _-\,_ --- (_)/ (_) Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG plug in
On Monday, March 3, 2003, 6:22:32 PM, Lou Yovin wrote: LY I verified that email is set up and working in AVG, and set it to LY certify incoming and outgoing so I could see if it works. I do LY not see any certification on either in or out bound stuff. The AVG plugin for TB does not currently support certification of emails - this information pops up as part of the installation process. It does still check them, it just doesn't certify them. Certification of emails doesn't make them more secure anyway, doesn't prove anything much, so I wouldn't worry about it :-) -- Deborah Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: AVG plug in
Monday, March 3, 2003, 1:33:13 PM, you wrote: DW On Monday, March 3, 2003, 6:22:32 PM, Lou Yovin wrote: LY I verified that email is set up and working in AVG, and set it to LY certify incoming and outgoing so I could see if it works. I do LY not see any certification on either in or out bound stuff. DW The AVG plugin for TB does not currently support certification of emails DW - this information pops up as part of the installation process. It does DW still check them, it just doesn't certify them. DW Certification of emails doesn't make them more secure anyway, doesn't DW prove anything much, so I wouldn't worry about it :-) Thanks, I was just looking for evidence that it was really scanning them... I guess I will have to send myself a test virus. -- Lou Experience: recognizing a mistake the second time you make it. --- __@ -- _-\,_ --- (_)/ (_) Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spill chucking the Subject
Hallo Miguel, On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 19:17:38 +0100GMT (3-3-03, 19:17 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MAU Don't you think it should? No. Why? MAU Because I do :-) In that case, use the %subject macro to insert your subject line into the message body, so the spell checker is used. Afterwards you only need to delete the subject from the body. Better yet, use %subject %cursor and you'll only have to press Ctrl-Y to delete the line. (But I suppose that's not easy enough for you.) -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG plug in
Hello Deborah W, On or about Monday, March 03, 2003 at 18:33:13GMT + (which was 1:33 PM in the tropics where I live) Deborah W posted: DW Certification of emails doesn't make them more secure anyway, doesn't DW prove anything much, so I wouldn't worry about it :-) 30% of the virus files I get say something about being 'certified virus free' or similar. It's a non-issue. Anti-virus is an issue for the receiver. Most virus senders are clueless individuals to start with. If you can put two or three coherent sentences together, you're not part of the problem! -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike Why is it considered necessary to nail down the lid of a coffin? /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML). -- Using TheBat! v1.62i hamstrung by Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1' -- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spill chucking the Subject
ON Monday, March 3, 2003, 7:11:46 PM, you wrote: RO No. Why? Yes you do, Roelof. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Your financial cost can best be figured out when you realize that if you were to devote the same time and energy to business instead of golf, you would be a millionaire in approximately six weeks. Using The Bat! v1.62h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spill chucking the Subject
Hallo Gerard, On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 19:50:49 +0100GMT (3-3-03, 19:50 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RO No. Why? G Yes you do, Roelof. Ouch! Gerard the brainwasher is back. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB does not shut down properly
Friday, February 28, 2003, Miles Johnson wrote: I'm still curious to know if other users have found some kind of workaround, or if perhaps the TB people are working on a fix. What happens if you shut down the TB-service? I am not really sure about XP, but on W2k it's Control Panel - Administrative Tools - Services. Guess you have to have administrative rights to do it, though. -- Urban Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Shared folder Address Reply
Saturday, March 1, 2003, Christophe wrote: %Reply=%OToAddr but it still keeps the reply-to of the default account ! I've missed something perhaps, sorry, Try %REPLYTO=%OTOADDR -- Urban Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Recovering deletes messages from tbb-file?
Hello, Bat fans, I have a very large messages.tbb file for my Inbox. It has never been purged and compressed and contains many deleted messages that are not shown in The Bat but can be viewed with any editor like notepad. I would like to recover some of those deleted messages from the .tbb-file. Is there any way to do this? It's quite a drag to manually search and cut paste these messages with an external editor. Take care, Andreas -- My homepage: www.andreas-schwartmann.de | ICQ#: 23060752 - Mailed with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1- 'A modern democracy is a tyranny whose borders are undefined; one discovers how far one can go only by traveling in a straight line until one is stopped.' - Norman Mailer Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Recovering deletes messages from tbb-file?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, March 03, 2003, Andreas Schwartmann wrote... I have a very large messages.tbb file for my Inbox. It has never been purged and compressed and contains many deleted messages that are not shown in The Bat but can be viewed with any editor like notepad. I would like to recover some of those deleted messages from the .tbb-file. Is there any way to do this? It's quite a drag to manually search and cut paste these messages with an external editor. Select the folder you want to work with, click Folder then Browse deleted Messages. You can now see the 'deleted' messages. To undelete it, you can select it, and hit Del key again, or go to Messages, then Undelete Message. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBPmO6RCuD6BT4/R9zEQLYcQCg8PNBMfl+YibMn5qwgWNpA2QwOQQAnRcI PLzneq+wohDj1CUQA92EpO0y =EaSu -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Recovering deletes messages from tbb-file?
Hi Andreas, on Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:14:06 +0100GMT (03.03.03, 21:14 +0100GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : AS I would like to recover some of those deleted messages from the AS .tbb-file. Is there any way to do this? It's quite a drag to AS manually search and cut paste these messages with an external AS editor. Use Browse deleted messages from the Folder menu. -- Cheers Peter The joyfulness of a man prolongeth his days. Winamp currently playing: ¿½¥¿·£+¾G§Æ©É - ¤k¤H¤§W Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spill chucking the Subject
Hello Roelof, In that case, use the %subject macro to insert your subject line into the message body, so the spell checker is used. Afterwards you only need to delete the subject from the body. No, thank you. If I misspell something in the subject I'll blame TB. And, why worry if maybe the recipient will even edit my subject to change it to something else because he doesn't like it ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Recovering deletes messages from tbb-file?
Hello Andreas Schwartmann, On or about Monday, March 03, 2003 at 21:14:06GMT +0100 (which was 3:14 PM in the tropics where I live) Andreas Schwartmann posted: AS I have a very large messages.tbb file for my Inbox. It has never been AS purged and compressed and contains many deleted messages that are not AS shown in The Bat but can be viewed with any editor like notepad. I AS would like to recover some of those deleted messages from the AS .tbb-file. Is there any way to do this? It's quite a drag to manually AS search and cut paste these messages with an external editor. FOLDER- Browse Deleted Messages Message- Undelete Click Icon- view next Repeat!! -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike You better cut the pizza in four pieces because I am not hungry enough to eat six. - Yogi Berra /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML). -- Using TheBat! v1.62i hamstrung by Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1' -- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: AVG plug in
Estimados seguidores del tbudl arroba thebat.dutaint.com: En relación a lo que Spike en su momento posteó: /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML). With vampire you can filter the html using the simple string: Content-Type: text/html in the filter. :-) Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG plug in
Hallo Task, On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 16:24:01 -0400GMT (3-3-03, 21:24 +0100, where I live), you wrote: TC With vampire you can filter the html using the simple TC string: Content-Type: text/html in the filter. :-) Is it possible to use vampire to filter message with the string 'vampire' in the body? If so, please use it for your outgoing mail. For an anti spam tool it's causing rather a lot of spam-like messages. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Getting files back
Good evening list, I have a filter set up that moves messages with images as an attachment to a specific folder after the message has been read. Now i made a periodical backup through TB!'s back up tool. Afterwards i deleted the attachment in the folder. But now i want to get them back from the backup file but it doesn't work. Is there no way i can get them back? -- Best regards, Luc Powered by The Bat! version 1.63 Beta/7 with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 3 and using the best browser: Opera. I will not eat oysters. I want my food dead. Not sick, not wounded, dead. - Woody Allen - US film-maker and comedian Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: AVG plug in
Monday, March 3, 2003, 3:24:01 PM, you wrote: TC Estimados seguidores del tbudl arroba thebat.dutaint.com: TC En relación a lo que Spike en su momento posteó: TC /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail TC \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. TC XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! TC / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML). TC With vampire you can filter the html using the simple string: TC Content-Type: text/html in the filter. :-) TC TC Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: TC http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Yes, with TheBat, you can filter out: Task Control [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well as vampire. -- Lou --- __@ -- _-\,_ --- (_)/ (_) Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: adding fonts
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David Crane [DC] wrote:
DC Is there some way to add more fonts to The Bat! mailer? I've not
DC been able to figure out a way as yet. Thanks.
TB!'s editor supports only fixed width fonts. If you wish to add
more fonts for use in TB!'s editor, you need to install more fixed
width fonts on your system.
For free fonts, you can have a look here:
http://home.bsu.edu/prn/monofont/index.html
For fonts you have to pay, you can also look here:
http://www.myfonts.com/
and
http://simplythebest.net/fonts/
Note that the rich text viewer offers use of all fonts on your
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Re: adding fonts
Hi David, Monday, March 3, 2003, 2:00:20 PM, you wrote: Is there some way to add more fonts to The Bat! mailer? I've not been able to figure out a way as yet. Thanks. Do you mean fixed-width fonts? I found that the editor in The Bat took a bit of getting used to, especially since I was used to using a variable-width font in my old e-mail program (for viewing only, as I send all my e-mails in plain text). I personally find many fixed-width fonts uncomfortable to read. However, there is one that I'm happy with -- Andale Mono. It was suggested to me by another TBUDL member, and fortunately I had a copy that font. I set it 14 pt in the editor, and my eyes are very happy. In the viewer, I choose a rich text font (which is variable width). If you're looking just to add fonts in general, and you're using Windows, you can add those in the Control Panel, under Fonts (look for the Fonts icon) -- On the File menu, choose Install new font. -- Best regards, Kim Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: adding fonts
Allie,
Thanks very much. Fixed-width only...that explains a lot.
Monday, March 03, 2003, 3:15:41 PM, you wrote:
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AM TB!'s editor supports only fixed width fonts. If you wish to add
AM more fonts for use in TB!'s editor, you need to install more fixed
AM width fonts on your system.
AM For free fonts, you can have a look here:
AM http://home.bsu.edu/prn/monofont/index.html
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AM http://www.myfonts.com/
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Re: adding fonts
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DC Thanks very much. Fixed-width only...that explains a lot.
You're welcome. :)
Just a reminder to you and all others concerned.
Please be mindful of over-quoting when posting to the list.
You should restrict your quotes to include only enough to bring
across the context of your reply.
This will:
- decrease your message size while still allowing you to send what
you wanted to say. Those on expensive, dialup connections will
appreciate this.
- prevent unnessary repetition, since all on the list have the
original message which they can refer back to if they need to read
the entire original message.
- help those who read the list traffic in plain digest format, in
that they have less scrolling to do and not have to scroll past
excessive quotations to get to the next message.
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Re[2]: AVG plug in
Estimados seguidores del tbudl arroba thebat.dutaint.com: En relación a lo que Roelof en su momento posteó: RO If so, please use it for your outgoing mail. RO For an anti spam tool it's causing rather a lot of spam-like RO messages. sorry, i'm only telling you the news. -- Se despide, Task Control mail: TaskControl at SoftHome dot net correo: TaskControl arroba SoftHome punto net Usando: - Windows 98 4.10.1998 - AVG 6.0 Free Edition - The Bat! 1.63 Beta/7 - Trillian PRO 1.0 B Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spill chucking the Subject
Hello Miguel, On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:28:44 +0100 GMT (04/03/03, 03:28 +0700 GMT), Miguel A. Urech wrote: In that case, use the %subject macro to insert your subject line into the message body, so the spell checker is used. Afterwards you only need to delete the subject from the body. You cold also export the message, run it through an external spell checker, reimport it. Easy. Can be done with manual filters. No, thank you. If I misspell something in the subject I'll blame TB. And, why worry if maybe the recipient will even edit my subject to change it to something else because he doesn't like it ;-) Never would anybody think of that. Neither for spill chuckers not for love roosters. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. ADULT: A person who has stopped growing at both ends and is now growing in the middle. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
vampire (was: AVG plug in)
Hello Task, On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 22:16:55 -0400 GMT (04/03/03, 09:16 +0700 GMT), Task Control wrote: RO For an anti spam tool it's causing rather a lot of spam-like RO messages. sorry, i'm only telling you the news. But you are doing it on the wrong list. The plug-in won't work with the release version, but only with the beta version. Betas are not being discussed on this list. That's why some people consider anything about vampire as spam on this list - while I think it might be an interesting plug-in, the information has no practical value on TBDUL, as it won't work with the release version on TB. In fact, for the anti-spam plug-in development, there is another list, TBDEV. That's in fact the correct list for your updated info, IMHO. (To avoid confusion sometimes caused by my sig, I'd like to point out that this is my personal opinion, not a mod mail, as I am *not* a moderator on this list, only on the German beginners list.) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Wednesday, the Ladies Liturgy Society will meet. Mrs. Jones will sing Put me in My Little Bed accompanied by the pastor. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: AVG plug in
Hi Spike, Monday, March 3, 2003, 6:52:15 PM, you wrote: S 30% of the virus files I get say something about being 'certified S virus free' or similar. It's a non-issue. Anti-virus is an issue for S the receiver. Most virus senders are clueless individuals to start S with. If you can put two or three coherent sentences together, you're S not part of the problem! That is so true! I started getting a sex related series, only they spelt sex, seks so I just added that to my filters ;-) -- Best regards, Mike Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: adding fonts
Hello David, Monday, March 3, 2003, 11:00:20 AM, you wrote: DC Is there some way to add more fonts to The Bat! mailer? I've not DC been able to figure out a way as yet. Thanks. Just install the fonts normally. The Bat! will recognize any fixed width fonts that are installed on your system. -- Best regards, Scottmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.61 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A pgp key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Please%20send%20keys Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: LIKELY SPAM
Hello Marck, On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:54:22 + GMT (03/03/03, 18:54 +0700 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: But more and more ISPs use blacklists and even SpamCop uses his Monkeys.com open relay blacklist :-(((. I don't like what I'm reading. Julian Haight was for me the good guy on the internet. I know SpamCop checks with monkeys.com, but I didn't know monkeys.com lists false positives. So is reporting to SpamCop still good? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary saftey deserve neither liberty not saftey. (Benjamin Franklin, 1759) Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: LIKELY SPAM
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, March 03, 2003, Thomas Fernandez wrote... But more and more ISPs use blacklists and even SpamCop uses his Monkeys.com open relay blacklist :-(((. I don't like what I'm reading. Julian Haight was for me the good guy on the internet. I know SpamCop checks with monkeys.com, but I didn't know monkeys.com lists false positives. So is reporting to SpamCop still good? It's not that they always list false positives. Often you'll find if they check a host, and find it open (proxies on monkeys.com I believe), they don't alert the owner, but black list it They then find out it is a dial-up/dsl/isdn with a dynamic IP address, and for the safety of the internet, blacklist that block too. As you can see... from one persons mistake, it can result in the possible 254 people being blocked immediately. Nice huh? What is even worse is if you are on a large ISP, say verizon, or AOL for example, where their IP blocks span whole blocks... so you could be caught in a nasty block from caused by somebody on the other side of the country, not even on the same subnet as yourself. I personally think submitting to SpamCop is a good idea as it allows spam reports to be submitted quickly. I'm not sure what SpamCop does with the information it has, I am on the fence. I noticed they submit the addresses for testing at the various blacklists if they aren't found in a lookup... That can be a good and bad thing I guess. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Fingerprint: 676A 1701 665B E343 E393 B8D2 2B83 E814 F8FD 1F73 iQA/AwUBPmQyhiuD6BT4/R9zEQKGbACdFGLWeiVtRymyUaHc1oHp+nBL5QoAnjUx Z6Pls1L7URakVH/mu+DHdKO3 =vQpO -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Printing header template
Hello Ray, On Monday, March 3, 2003 at 14:11 GMT +, a creature mimicking Ray Thomson [RT] wrote: RT Thanks Roelof! works a treat! That works well, but it looks pretty bad (at least to me) when you have a lot of recipients. I'm personally a fan of a vertical list, which can be done with the three templates at: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html#recipient+list+-indented -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Ritlabs download
Hello Adam, On Saturday, March 1, 2003 at 00:08 GMT -0330, a stampede was started when Adam [A] hollered: A Since it happened several times, error correction doesn't make much A sense though. I know I'm late into this thread, but is it possible you were just trying to download the program when it was being uploaded (ie it was incomplete on the server)? If you try again with IE, does it still happen? -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Language-based template
Hello tbudl, Can The Bat! change the message template automatically - depending on the language of the message (let's say, English or Russian)? -- -=Robert Beata Golovniov | Lviv, Ukraine=- ~~ PGP key: 633F6D07 (1A1C 29F1 2A0C 4C4E 0BDA C8EE 5A1D 9F03 633F 6D07) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Embedded%20key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Attached%20key ~~ Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Linux version of The Bat!
Hello tbudl, I have heard some rumors that Ritlabs is working on the Linux version of The Bat! Can anybody on the list who is knowledgable on that, confirm or rebut this information? -- -=Robert Beata Golovniov | Lviv, Ukraine=- ~~ PGP key: 633F6D07 (1A1C 29F1 2A0C 4C4E 0BDA C8EE 5A1D 9F03 633F 6D07) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Embedded%20key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Attached%20key ~~ Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language-based template
Hello Robert, On Tuesday, March 4, 2003 at 08:23 GMT +0200, electricians were shocked that Robert Golovniov potentially scribbled: Can The Bat! change the message template automatically - depending on the language of the message (let's say, English or Russian)? If you have some way of determining the language reliably, then yes. The easiest way is to make your templates as 2 Quick Templates, then use a %IF statement in your main template. It would be of the form: =[Begin Sample Quasi-template]= %IF:'some condition'='Russian identifier':'%- %QInclude=Russian Template':'%- %QInclude=English Template' =[ End Sample Quasi-template]= -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
