Re: Simple filter question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Günter Minnerup, [GM] wrote: GM I'm trying to set up a filter to move all messages older than a GM certain number of days from a folder (by using re-filter) to the GM Inbox folder in a different account named Archive. I've set up a GM Read messages filter which has no rules except to specify the GM folder to move the messages to, set it to manual, and specify the GM option older than xxx days. When I use the filter to re-filter a GM particular folder, nothing is filtered. GM Any suggestions gratefully accepted. Did you enter a string match that would catch all messages. One such string is 'e', Location: Kludges and Presence: Yes - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBPwANaFfJ62ArBxfiEQLtRACg3czH2oxtrlV53wvEIeg4XFZXm2YAn2fN ptjfi+WYei1hKjbfg70RmUv6 =COnB -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Simple filter question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 AM Did you enter a string match that would catch all messages. One such AM string is 'e', Location: Kludges and Presence: Yes We see this so often I wonder if we should just ask Stefan for a 'Match All Messages' option on the filters. - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 PGP Key available from ldap://keys.pgp.com ... If you think there is good in everybody, you haven't met everybody. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 iQA/AwUBPwAPJdttnLhkydF1EQJzsQCggHJsIRny3aZD/eLISty8ZXa5TTAAoKhV VXkf3iGdMIVGcTmr723Srupw =H76E -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB listed as Bulk Mailer
Hi all, Who do I need to contact at Rit Labs to let them know that the Matador or Anti-Spam Gateway http://info.mailfrontier.com has The Bat! listed as a bulk mailer? It is rejecting mail based on that. I have been trying to correspond with someone and all of my e-mail is being returned with the message: A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SMTP error from remote mailer after end of data: host mail.abc.com [xxx.xxx.34.130]: 554 5.7.1 Content filter bulk mailer rejection I've already sent Mailfrontier's marketing and support departments links to the spammer page and TB pages on Rit Labs' web site and have notified the user. Just thought the developers might like to know so they can contact them. Thanks. -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to not download mail
Hello TCOB1, Sunday, June 29, 2003, 2:20:38 PM, you wrote: Is there anyway to tell TB! not to download mail from a shared email box. Do you want to read the e-mail, but not delete it from the server? Or, not download it at all? -- Best regards, Daniel Rail Senior System Engineer ACCRA Group Inc. (www.accra.ca) ACCRA Med Software Inc. (www.filopto.com) Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB listed as Bulk Mailer
Hello Terry, On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:27:49 +0100 GMT (30/06/03, 17:27 +0700 GMT), Terry wrote: Who do I need to contact at Rit Labs to let them know that the Matador or Anti-Spam Gateway http://info.mailfrontier.com has The Bat! listed as a bulk mailer? That would be Max Masiutin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I never ceases to make me wonder what these self-declared spam fighters know. Most of the spam I receive is sent by Outlook. None by TB. And this Matador thing even costs a lot of money! See what they claim on thier website: BENEFITS ¡E Blocks 98% of spam without ever losing an email Ha! Just recommend to the user you try to contact that his company needs to drop that piece of software. It is dangerous for their business, as it obviously loses all mail sent by this professional email client. What other legitimate mail does it lose? -- Cheers, Thomas. Hilf einem Freund in der Not und er wird sich an dich erinnern, wenn er wieder in Not ist. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB listed as Bulk Mailer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas Fernandez, [TF] wrote: TF Just recommend to the user you try to contact that his company needs TF to drop that piece of software. It is dangerous for their business, TF as it obviously loses all mail sent by this professional email TF client. What other legitimate mail does it lose? The extremely annoying thing about this issue is that there are so many ways to fight spam that doesn't involve having to do sweeping filtering methods such as filtering out mail sent by a particular mail client. It's just ridiculous. The ignorance level among 'experts' who should know better is just stunning to behold. sigh - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBPwAfglfJ62ArBxfiEQLUugCfcBXgskomAiWb2GtEDZJ6dCB/QmgAoNGx 3QDeTTmAUMjmdetx4DaKS3dI =wibb -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
ZDNet article
TBUDL members ZDNet has a short article on alternative email clients that mentions TB! as one recommended alternative to M$ Lookout. You might like to put in your $0.02 worth at http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stories/story/0,10738,2914166,00.html Regards Robin -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB listed as Bulk Mailer
Hello Allie, Monday, June 30, 2003, 4:31:12 AM, you wrote: TF Just recommend to the user you try to contact that his company needs TF to drop that piece of software. It is dangerous for their business, TF as it obviously loses all mail sent by this professional email TF client. What other legitimate mail does it lose? AM The extremely annoying thing about this issue is that there are so many AM ways to fight spam that doesn't involve having to do sweeping filtering AM methods such as filtering out mail sent by a particular mail client. AM It's just ridiculous. The ignorance level among 'experts' who should AM know better is just stunning to behold. sigh Isn't there a program which will strip X-Mailer: from your outgoing mail? I do it here, but at the server. Many ISP's are taking draconian measures to deal with spam. AOL won't accept email from any dsl, adsl or cable account if the domain is in the pooled IP's--even if it's a static IP. If this, or a variant thereof, becomes a standard, It'll ruin a bunch of small businesses who can't afford service with vanity reverse lookup. I don't wish to stray off topic. But my point is that the war against spam will leave a bunch of casualties in its aftermath. -- Best regards, Benmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB listed as Bulk Mailer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ben Mills, [BM] wrote: BM Isn't there a program which will strip X-Mailer: from your outgoing BM mail? I do it here, but at the server. Yes. Xray http://www.xrayapp.com/ You can run it as a service only since it's user interface is a separate module that is front end for configuring the service. - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBPwAp3FfJ62ArBxfiEQJpFQCgwpZM0EvV6Y81X1SYm6l2iXFk3ZYAoJBt pyDmS5PIWjKNwoY5zN+gGfky =5zsU -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Simple filter question
On Monday, June 30, 2003, 8:13:52 PM, Allie Martin wrote: Did you enter a string match that would catch all messages. One such string is 'e', Location: Kludges and Presence: Yes No I didn't - thought leaving the string match blank would do it. Thanks! Regards, Günter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 1.62r Windows XP Version 5 Build 2600 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Simple filter question
On Monday, June 30, 2003, 8:21:22 PM, Stuart Hemming wrote: We see this so often I wonder if we should just ask Stefan for a 'Match All Messages' option on the filters. Well yes, that would make it clearer... Regards, Günter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 1.62r Windows XP Version 5 Build 2600 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Hello, I just joined the mailing list
I joined the mailing list because I like this program, but have a question about it and couldn't find anything on the site or in the help file. Is there ANY way to create HTML emails (with bold, italics, underlines, colors, etc) with The Bat, or does it only allow you to make plain text email? If so that's fine, I'm just curious is all. Elatia Grimshaw Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB listed as Bulk Mailer
On 30 June 2003, 11:27, Terry wrote: A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SMTP error from remote mailer after end of data: host mail.abc.com [xxx.xxx.34.130]: 554 5.7.1 Content filter bulk mailer rejection ~~~ Are you sure that it's because of TB! being listed? I only ask because I got a spate of these a few months ago that turned out to be due to another customer of my ISP running an open relay. Some DSBLs had blacklisted the entire netblock, which contained my ISPs SMTP relay server. -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK -- Using The Bat! v1.62i on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Help ... I can't find my Any key! Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Hello, I just joined the mailing list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Elatia, @30-Jun-2003, 08:27 -0400 (13:27 UK time) Elatia Grimshaw [EG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: EG Is there ANY way to create HTML emails (with bold, italics, EG underlines, colors, etc) with The Bat, or does it only allow you EG to make plain text email? In the current release, the latter is the case. There is a new HTML editor in the latest beta versions for release 1.63. These are still a little raw yet and may not be suitable for a less experienced user. Many here will have a lot to say against the practice of doubling or tripling the size of a message /merely/ to italicise or to *emphasize* text, an effect which _can_ be achieved without that kind of overhead ;-). - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPwAu3DnkJKuSnc2gEQIJ9gCg3RX/TXHTc2cf/mcl7jYvRelqBp4An3NX joBzvj7MG7Ik4UNLLV0xfIuK =omKE -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Simple filter question
On Monday, June 30, 2003, 8:13:52 PM, Allie Martin wrote: Did you enter a string match that would catch all messages. One such string is 'e', Location: Kludges and Presence: Yes Still no luck. Where is this use of 'e' documented? Regards, Günter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 1.62r Windows XP Version 5 Build 2600 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB listed as Bulk Mailer
On Monday, June 30, 2003 at 1:24 PM, Geoff wrote: Content filter bulk mailer rejection Are you sure that it's because of TB! being listed? I only ask because I got a spate of these a few months ago that turned out to be due to another customer of my ISP running an open relay. Some DSBLs had blacklisted the entire netblock, which contained my ISPs SMTP relay server. Pretty sure as the rejection message stated content filter. I wanted to check the program's specs, but I didn't download the whitepaper since it required me giving them my details. -- Best Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB listed as Bulk Mailer
On Monday, June 30, 2003 at 12:18 PM, Thomas wrote: That would be Max Masiutin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Thomas. I've e-mailed him. I never ceases to make me wonder what these self-declared spam fighters know. Most of the spam I receive is sent by Outlook. None by TB. And this Matador thing even costs a lot of money! What's worse is that the Anti-Spam Gateway costs even more money and I think that is the product that ended up rejecting the e-mail. snipped Just recommend to the user you try to contact that his company needs to drop that piece of software. It is dangerous for their business, as it obviously loses all mail sent by this professional email client. What other legitimate mail does it lose? I've notified them using another e-mail program. We'll see, but I won't hold my breath. They'll probably consult with the same people who told them to buy the program in the first place. :) -- Best Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB listed as Bulk Mailer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Terry, @30-Jun-2003, 13:47 Terry [T] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Thomas: T I've notified them using another e-mail program. We'll see, but T I won't hold my breath. They'll probably consult with the same T people who told them to buy the program in the first place. :) You should also refer them to this URL: http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/spammer.html - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPwA03znkJKuSnc2gEQJ1rACgq/EpL93mVXbv6XexwZTusKeWNqUAoL91 fr7QPvuOsWQUzLZTNzisunvC =D7hY -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB listed as Bulk Mailer
On Monday, June 30, 2003 at 2:02 PM, Marck wrote: You should also refer them to this URL: http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/spammer.html Already done! :) -- Best Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BCC to this address on Account level (was: UnexpectedBehavior of Known Filter)
On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, at 12:19:34 [GMT +0700] tbudl wrote: TF On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 10:35:44 -0500 GMT (28/06/03, 22:35 +0700 GMT), TF Greg Strong wrote: I want to keep running dialog of all email correspondence. I think having incorporated into the interface would make it more user friendly. TF I have a seconder! :-) I'm not sure if I'm understanding this correctly. But if I am then TB! already does this (doesn't it)! I have one folder (well several actually) and all outgoing incoming email go to that one folder - it happens to be my incoming folder but it could just as easily be a common folder. ( in hindsight I think I would have preferred to use a common folder... but anyway I digress!) I have filters setup to send email to and from one person to one folder and then that folder is viewed using threads. That way I can easily see how an email conversation has developed. Please correct me if I have misunderstood the request. -- bfn ~kristina __ Composed on 30/06/2003 at 14:43 using The Bat Ver 1.62r Attachments = none Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Simple filter question
Hallo Günter, On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 22:41:44 +1000GMT (30-6-03, 14:41 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Did you enter a string match that would catch all messages. One such string is 'e', Location: Kludges and Presence: Yes GM Still no luck. Well, post the filter here, so somebody can shoot at it. You can post a filter by selecting it in the Sorting Office, press Ctrl-C (don't use the copy button), go to the message and paste the filter with Ctrl-V GM Where is this use of 'e' documented? Nowhere. The 'e' character just occurs in almost every English word and therefore you encounter it in the headers in words like 'Received'. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Simple filter question
On Monday, June 30, 2003, 11:57:11 PM, Roelof Otten wrote: Well, post the filter here, so somebody can shoot at it. OK, here it is: BeginFilter Name: Archive Active: 0 Source: \\UNSW\Inbox Target: \\Archive\Inbox CopyFolder: none MainSet: 40e Actions: faoManualOnly,faoAdvOlder AddGroups: DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: NewTemplate: ExtCmd: ExtFile: ExtractDir: ColourGroup: default AddAddrItems: afiFrom, DelAddrItems: afiFrom, HotKey: 0 IsOfColour: default SizeBigger: 0 SizeSmaller: 0 AgeOlder: 30 AgeNewer: 0 InAddrPos: 0 OutAddrPos: 0 InAddrGroups: NoAddrGroups: KillFile: KillMethod: 0 SaveTemplate: SndFile: SysSound: 0 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00 EndFilter Regards, Günter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 1.62r Windows XP Version 5 Build 2600 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Simple filter question
ON Monday, June 30, 2003, 2:41:44 PM, you wrote: GM Still no luck. Where is this use of 'e' documented? Hi Günter, Logical thinking is not documented, it is assumed ;-) -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Things That Sound Dirty At Golf But Aren't: You really whacked the hell out of that sucker Using The Bat! v1.62q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Transfer of The Bat! to another PC
I would like to transfer The Bat! (program and mail database) to a notebook PC for a couple of months and I'll then transfer everything back to a desktop PC. I'm thinking of installing The Bat! on the notebook, making a backup of my mail database using the built-in feature and restoring it on the notebook. Is this feasible or would I have a problem about paths etc? What would you suggest as the simplest way to do this task? -- Best regards, Costas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ZDNet article
30-Jun-2003 13:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ZDNet has a short article on alternative email clients that mentions TB! as one recommended alternative to M$ Lookout. You might like to put in your $0.02 worth at http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stories/story/0,10738,2914166,00.html Ouch, rating IncrediMail as his #1 choice, I wonder if that kind of advocacy for TB is to be appreciated. :-) -- Best regards, neurowerx (http://www.neurowerx.de) The only substitute for good manners is fast reflexes. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Hello, I just joined the mailing list
30-Jun-2003 14:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many here will have a lot to say against the practice of doubling or tripling the size of a message /merely/ to italicise or to *emphasize* text, an effect which _can_ be achieved without that kind of overhead ;-). I remember there was a (ZConnect/UU) Mailer on the Amiga called MicroDot that allowed interpretation of these text styles, ie. words in /slashes/ were shown on-screen as italics. I always found that very nice. Seeing that you type that way - can this text styling be achieved with TB? -- Best regards, neurowerx (http://www.neurowerx.de) A judge is a law student who marks his own examination papers. -- H. L. Mencken Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ZDNet article
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ZDNet has a short article on alternative email clients that mentions TB! as one recommended alternative to M$ Lookout. You might like to put in your $0.02 worth at http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stories/story/0,10738,2914166,00.html Ouch, rating IncrediMail as his #1 choice, I wonder if that kind of advocacy for TB is to be appreciated. :-) interesting article about incredi*spywareandadware*mail: http://email.about.com/cs/incredimailtips/a/et063003.htm -- Marek Mikus Czech Support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Hello, I just joined the mailing list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Neurowerx, @30-Jun-2003, 16:48 +0200 (15:48 UK time) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [N] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: N I remember there was a (ZConnect/UU) Mailer on the Amiga called N MicroDot that allowed interpretation of these text styles, N ie. words in /slashes/ were shown on-screen as italics. N I always found that very nice. Seeing that you type that way - N can this text styling be achieved with TB? Despite being essentially an email purist at heart, I'm all in favour of this and would love it if TB could do it. I guess that it would make wrapping a bit interesting to compute :-) ... - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPwBPbTnkJKuSnc2gEQJx+ACfa10Yc4/wu3SokP/6zGaUBc4dE/EAoLX7 PPGvX68Q/1ga9XjMd8gLj9ia =euX8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Simple filter question
On Mon 30-Jun-03 9:59am -0400, Günter Minnerup wrote: Active: 0 This filter is not active. That's fine for a Hotkey activated filter, but will it not cause it to be skipped in a refilter operation? -- Best regards, Bill Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Transfer of The Bat! to another PC
Hello Costas, Monday, June 30, 2003, 3:09:45 PM, you wrote: CP I'm thinking of installing The Bat! on the notebook, making a backup CP of my mail database using the built-in feature and restoring it on the CP notebook. Is this feasible or would I have a problem about paths etc? Did this myself on a new computer two weeks ago. Tick everything when you back up, install TB (and international pack, if required) on your new computer and restore backup. If you have your registration email in your message base, open it and go help|enter reg code and you're reregistered. It is easy. -- regards Clive Taylor Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Simple filter question
Hallo Bill, On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:04:13 -0400GMT (30-6-03, 17:04 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Active: 0 BM This filter is not active. That's fine for a Hotkey activated BM filter, but will it not cause it to be skipped in a refilter BM operation? I think you're right about that. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
error message during backup
I received the following message when I tried to run a backup... An error occurred while storing data of the folder Register It is possible that the message base index file is damaged - try to delete the index file and re-read the folder, then try to backup again. What am I looking for (name, extention) to find the index file and how do I re-read the folder? Thanks Terry Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Transfer of The Bat! to another PC
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Costas Papadopoulos, [CP] wrote: CP I'm thinking of installing The Bat! on the notebook, making a backup CP of my mail database using the built-in feature and restoring it on CP the notebook. Is this feasible or would I have a problem about paths CP etc? The backup and restore facility is especially great for restoring to a system where the installation paths will be different. You'll find that it works well for you provided the backup goes well without any errors. - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBPwBnUlfJ62ArBxfiEQJBSgCfeg7cxCtgLT0V/cDDQkX+12a/1LoAnRR7 is0DowkG1IQ/5ujD1kpEpKIi =46mv -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: error message during backup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Terry G. Munson, [TGM] wrote: TGM I received the following message when I tried to run a backup... TGM An error occurred while storing data of the folder Register TGM It is possible that the message base index file is damaged - try to TGM delete the index file and re-read the folder, then try to backup TGM again. TGM What am I looking for (name, extention) to find the index file and how TGM do I re-read the folder? That's the messages.tbi file that's in the corresponding directory in you accounts directory on disk. Exit TB!, go to your Mail directory and find the corresponding folders directory. Delete the messages.tbi file. Re-reading the folder means selecting the folder after restarting TB! and letting TB! recreate and rebuild the index file. moderator BTW, You need to include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. Mine looks different because of the PGP Signature but there are macros available to compensate for this and make users able to reply without quoting anything below the altered delimiter. /moderator - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBPwBrJFfJ62ArBxfiEQKhhQCfSO2IwJ4+roh4oSee63tlW16GkvQAoPYX raKOydp/RJV1w8A8J57XOzQQ =li6w -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: error message during backup
Hello Terry, On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 09:24:02 -0700 GMT (30/06/03, 23:24 +0700 GMT), Terry G. Munson wrote: It is possible that the message base index file is damaged - try to delete the index file and re-read the folder, then try to backup again. What am I looking for (name, extention) to find the index file and how do I re-read the folder? The file name is messages.tbi. Delete it while TB is not running, and then open TB and open that folder. A new messages.tbi file will be created. Be aware that the index file contains information such as whether any mail has been marked as deleted etc. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. My goal is to be a meterologist. But since I possess no training in meteorology, I suppose I should try stock brokerage. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BCC to this address on Account level (was: UnexpectedBehavior of Known Filter)
Hello kristina, On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:46:53 +0100 GMT (30/06/03, 20:46 +0700 GMT), kristina wrote: I'm not sure if I'm understanding this correctly. But if I am then TB! already does this (doesn't it)! No. ;-) I have one folder (well several actually) and all outgoing incoming email go to that one folder - it happens to be my incoming folder but it could just as easily be a common folder. ( in hindsight I think I would have preferred to use a common folder... but anyway I digress!) I have filters setup to send email to and from one person to one folder and then that folder is viewed using threads. That way I can easily see how an email conversation has developed. The purpose of BCC'ing oneself is that if you send messages from another computer (in the office, for example), you may still want to have the complete conversation on your main (home) computer. Therefore, you need to actually download the messages you sent out with the office computer onto your home computer, and this is only possible if they are in the inbox of your ISP account. This is achieved by BCC'ing yourself. If you use only one computer, you will have no need to BCC to yourself. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Money can't buy happiness but it can certainly rent it for a couple of hours. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: error message during backup
Hello Allie and Thomas, Monday, June 30, 2003, 9:53:55 AM, you wrote: That's the messages.tbi file that's Thanks for the help. You need to include a signature delimiter in your messages. I hope this worked. -- Thanks, Terry Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: error message during backup
Hello Terry G. Munson, On or about Monday, June 30, 2003 at 13:04:23GMT -0700 (which was 3:04 PM in the tropics where I live) Terry G. Munson posted: TGM I hope this worked. Yes, it did! :-) Congratulations. -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike Quote for the second: I invented the internet. - Al Gore, former U.S. Vice President /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML). -- Using TheBat! v1.62r hamstrung by Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1' -- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: recursive mark as read
Hello Eilko, Saturday, June 28, 2003, 5:56:47 AM, you wrote: EB Hello MAU, EB Saturday, June 28, 2003, 10:20:59 AM, you wrote: is there a way to mark all messages as read in a folder and its subfolders? Select the folder. Right click on it and select Mark all Messages Read or Ctrl+M. I don't think it works on subfolders though. EB yes, I found this option but it doesn't do it recursively to the EB subfolders. Ctrl+M Cursor down, Ctrl+M Cursor down.. sequence will work, doesn't it? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Sorting threads
Hello: Is there a way to sort a thread individually from the message list sorting style? What I want to do is to have my messages sorted by received date, newest on top; but each message within a thread in sorted by received date, oldest on top. For example: - Newest_message + Newer_message | + First_Reply_to_Newer_message | + Second_Reply_to_Newer_message | + Latest_Reply_to_Newer_message + New_message + Old_message There is an option for Oldest message begins a thread by Subject/From/To, but then all messages within that thread are in wrong order. TIA -dZ. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
MailFrontier.Com Reply
I E-Mailed the Matador/Mailfrontier company earlier when I read the message about their software marking the_Bat! messages as spam, here is their reply: I'm sorry that this might be the case. Matador uses a proprietary algorithmic content filter to score e-mails on the spam scale. If The Bat produces e-mails that look a lot like what spammers send, then Matador will treat the e-mail as a spam. We do offer our users the ability to configure Matador to allow e-mails from certain people, companies and mailing lists; and hopefully people that subscribe to e-mails that might come from The Bat will add the appropriate settings to allow this valuable e-mail through. _ Jim Lubinsky jlubinsky -at- mailfrontier -dot- com _ Please leave original mail in place when replying. -Original Message- From: John Morse Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 9:44 AM To: # PR Cc: # Biz; # Marketing; # Info Subject: The Bat! by Ritlabs I am very disappointed to learn that your software treats all mail from the Bat! (a professional software product from Ritlabs) as Spam. Please make some changes in this area before all your clients realize that they will be loosing valuable mail by using your software. thanks for your attention in this matter. -- John Morse pagemaker -at- semo -dot- net Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sorting threads
Hallo DZ-Jay, On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 18:30:35 -0400GMT (1-7-03, 0:30 +0200, where I live), you wrote: DJ Is there a way to sort a thread individually from the message list DJ sorting style? No. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Simple filter question
On Tuesday, July 1, 2003, 1:04:13 AM, Bill McCarthy wrote: This filter is not active. That's fine for a Hotkey activated filter, but will it not cause it to be skipped in a refilter operation? Thanks Bill, that's done the trick. Regards, Günter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 1.62r Windows XP Version 5 Build 2600 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Re: MailFrontier.Com Reply
Hello John, On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 17:49:20 -0500 GMT (01/07/03, 05:49 +0700 GMT), John Morse wrote: I'm sorry that this might be the case. Matador uses a proprietary algorithmic content filter to score e-mails on the spam scale. If The Bat produces e-mails that look a lot like what spammers send, then Matador will treat the e-mail as a spam. IOW: I have no idea how our software works, and I couldn't be bothered to get in touch with the tech people. Use Outlook and don't ask silly questions. Matador is really an excellent choice. At least, it made *my* day! ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If flying is so safe, why do they call the airport the 'terminal'? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
