Re[3]: OT: Vote for The Bat! :-)
Hi Allen Wednesday, August 27, 2003, 7:26:31 AM, you wrote: A whereas TB users results will reflect perfection -- after all, what -can't- TB do? As of 1.62r, - Handle dupes properly when you do not delete mail from the server. - Allow you to quit the program in peace when it is in the middle of doing something. - Allow you to easily copy something in an email you receive to an entry in the address book. Try opening an entry in the address book and then copying all the new contact details that someone just emailed you. You have to jump through a lot of hoops to get it done since it is not possible to copy anything once an address book entry is the active window. - Offer a very good help file. It's decent, but there are so many undocumented features that everyone keeps running across that I hesitate to call it 'good'. TB is good, but not perfect by any means. Cheers, -Vishal Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter Question
Hello TheBat! List, At the moment I am filtering on MailMXPro2 in kludges. What would work better, that is not give false trashings? BTW not all the spam messages from this source are from jenny bear. Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from ms-mta-01.socal.rr.com ([10.10.4.125]) by ms-mss-01.socal.rr.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 08:23:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lamx02.mgw.rr.com (lamx02.mgw.rr.com [66.75.160.13]) by ms-mta-01.socal.rr.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ORCPT [EMAIL PROTECTED]); Wed, 27 Aug 2003 08:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bak.rr.com ([61.53.138.94]) by lamx02.mgw.rr.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h7RFNLxZ003308 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:23:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from qiwen [61.53.138.94] by bak.rr.com with MailMXPro2(2195.5294) ; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 23:22:32 +0800 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 23:22:32 +0800 From: jenny bear [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: how have ya been To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: mxMAILPro Content-type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Abuse2-Tracking: ZGdyZWVyQGJhay5yci5jb20= X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Original-recipient: rfc822;[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-SpamPal: PASS -- Regards, Dennis - BATF = Bulldoze All The Facts The Human Race proudly using The Bat! 1.62r Windows 2000 Professional 5.0.2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filters, Spam and Edits
Just in case I missed something, I'm wondering if there is a way to edit a received message Subject. I use SpamPal and it marks suspects with **SPAM** in the subject line. Sometimes the Bayesian filter is incorrect (we are both still learning) but when I move a clean email to an inbox it is forever branded SPAM. If I alter the tagline for spam in SpamPal options, I'm not sure the messages will be routed to the junk folder. I realize from reading some of the archives that editing a received message is for some reason controversial. But for cases like the one above, or when a sender neglects to put a subject line in; or in the message body when the formatting makes it difficult to read, it would be a great help to be able to edit. If there is now a way to do so I would be thrilled to learn how! Best wishes, -- Pat Newly registered! A Canadian in Houston 8/27/03 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters, Spam and Edits
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi P, On Wednesday, August 27, 2003 at 22:54 GMT -0500, P . Johnson [PJ] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: PJ in case I missed something, I'm wondering if there is a way to PJ edit a received message Subject. I use SpamPal and it marks PJ suspects with **SPAM** in the subject line PJ If I alter the tagline for spam in SpamPal options, I'm not sure PJ the messages will be routed to the junk folder. Under SpamPal Options/Message Tagging my preference is to *not* check Mark subject lines.. or Display X-SpamPal: header in subject lines. This way SpamPal puts the classification information in the message's hidden kludge area. I think it looks less tacky this way. If you create a filter in The Bat to look for ^X-SpamPal: SPAM (minus the quotes) in the kludge or anywhere you can move the messages to your spam folder automatically. Erroneously classified mail (if you have any) will still have the altered kludge, but it won't be in the Subject field which would look rather annoying. If you place your SpamPal filter after your mailing list filters, and your Known filter (people in your address books), I think you'll find little if any erroneously classified spam. You might get an occasional unrecognized spam that you can easily add to the Bayesian plug-in. I've been running SpamPal for a few months and honestly don't recall any mail erroneously classified as spam. I might get 1 or 2 unrecognized spam each week and average 45-50 spam/day. - -- Kevin Coates Dewitt, NY USA X-Request-PGP: http://www.kcoates.com/0x434798B9.htm Using TB! v2.0 Beta/5 under Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP1 . -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE/TYfjRbTFvUNHmLkRAhKhAKDrMPb9l4FH4ozBcScEiqcYn6UwHgCgrwxz bJCw1sHM03PEq7it8088r8A= =nLio -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Attachment Filters
Is there anyway of filtering particular attachments i.e. .pif using The Bat!? I am sure there is probably something but I have looked through the help file but couldn't see anything. Regards Robyn Winter R2 Dzigns Melbourne Australia This e-mail message and accompanying data may contain information that is confidential and subject to privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message or data is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately and delete all material pertaining to this e-mail. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachment Filters
Hallo Robyn, On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:49:30 +1000GMT (28-8-03, 8:49 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RW Is there anyway of filtering particular attachments i.e. .pif using RW The Bat!? No. TB doesn't filter attachments, not even the even on the name. The logic behind not filtering attachments is sound, since it could mean very long filtering times on messages with large attachments. I wouldn't like it when some filters with location=everywhere would start checking multiple MB attachments. BTW You started your question as an answer to another thread. That's not the best thing to do for the following reason. The Bat is able to thread messages properly, in order to see what I mean, just select the folder where you're storing the messages from this list. Go to the menu: view - view threads by - references. Now you'll see that all messages are lined up after the message to which they're first, second (or whatever) level replies to. You started what's essentially a new thread by replying to another message. That means it shows up as listed in another thread. Since people sometimes skip messages in threads they don't consider interesting (for lack of time). They might skip your message too, since they're not aware of the newly started thread. So next time you'd do yourself a favor by sending a new message in stead of a reply, because you're reaching a larger audience and one of those might have the answer you've been waiting for. This is not not meant to criticize you, but only to help you appreciate the options TB offers and to be able to get more effect out of your efforts. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: OT: Vote for The Bat! :-)
Hi, - Allow you to quit the program in peace when it is in the middle of doing something. That's a good one, sometimes I don't even know what it's doing ;-) Is that gonna be changed with version 2? I haven't read anything about it. Antje -- | Antje Lehmann | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters, Spam and Edits
Hallo P, On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 22:54:43 -0500GMT (28-8-03, 5:54 +0200, where I live), you wrote: PJ Just in case I missed something, I'm wondering if there is a way to PJ edit a received message Subject. No. PJ I realize from reading some of the archives that editing a received PJ message is for some reason controversial. Yep and the subject is part of the message. PJ If there is now a way to do so I would be thrilled to learn how! Well, actually it is possible, but not solely with TB: Export the message Edit the subject with Notepad or another text editor. Import the message back into TB. Now you can delete the original message. One disadvantage of this method is the the received time/date gets changed into the time you've imported it. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachment Filters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 RO The logic behind not filtering attachments is sound, since it RO could mean very long filtering times on messages with large RO attachments. I wouldn't like it when some filters with RO location=everywhere would start checking multiple MB attachments. Rather than location=everywhere including attachments it might be better to have a separate, new, 'location' option; location=attachments. Then you existing filters would work as now without any additional overhead and if you wanted to include attachment filenames in your filter criteria you just set up and alternative using the new location option. The logic behind not filtering attachments is /not/ necessarily sound; it's just incompletely thought through. - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com ... I used to have a handle on life, then it broke. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 iQA/AwUBP03Kf9ttnLhkydF1EQK6IQCfaLIIcvmLnXNgSnXgp4nRPPMiuGkAoN6/ fe40DUBQ63C/DGj1/0ye6Kmf =k7Be -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Blank mails
Hi Thomas, On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, at 11:29:48 [GMT +0700] (which was 14:29 where I live) you wrote: IOW it works perfectly over here. Not here! -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Press any key to continue or any other key to quit Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic Backup ?
Tuesday, August 26, 2003, 10:48:13 PM, Roopesh wrote: R I want to know if there is any way to get TB to autoback up in R to an archive say every 10 days without user intervention ? R Please explain how.. Since there hasn't been a response to this, let me point you to the TBUDL archives. About 3-4 weeks ago and 8 weeks ago there were discussions about backing up. I believe automating the backup was included in that.The thread subjects were: Backing up The Bat! Cost Effective TB Backup! Here's the archive link: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dave Kennedy Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Attachment Filters
Hi Thank you for your answers and I will watch how I title and phrase my questions in future. Regards Robyn Winter R2 Dzigns Melbourne Australia This e-mail message and accompanying data may contain information that is confidential and subject to privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message or data is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately and delete all material pertaining to this e-mail. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters, Spam and Edits
Kevin Coates, [KC] wrote: KC If you create a filter in The Bat to look for ^X-SpamPal: SPAM KC (minus the quotes) in the kludge or anywhere you can move the KC messages to your spam folder automatically. Don't forget to enable 'regular expressions' in the filter options. The search string defined is actually a regular expression. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Changing From in Address Book template
Is there any method of changing the Identity for an address book template? There is no such tab when creating an address book template, and the template created inherits the folder's Identity setting. TIA -- Paul Richardson Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Changing From in Address Book template
Hi Paul, On Thursday, August 28, 2003 at 12:23 PM, Paul wrote: Is there any method of changing the Identity for an address book template? There is no such tab when creating an address book template, and the template created inherits the folder's Identity setting. TIA If I understand your question correctly, put %ACCOUNT=youraccountname in the template for new messages for the address you want and that should do it. If I haven't understood your question correctly, then it's probably not what you're looking for. :) -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Changing From in Address Book template
Hallo Paul, On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 12:23:12 +0100GMT (28-8-03, 13:23 +0200, where I live), you wrote: PR Is there any method of changing the Identity for an address book PR template? There is no such tab when creating an address book template, PR and the template created inherits the folder's Identity setting. Try the %From or %Account macro. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Changing From in Address Book template
Paul Richardson, [PR] wrote: PR Is there any method of changing the Identity for an address book PR template? There is no such tab when creating an address book PR template, and the template created inherits the folder's Identity PR setting. You can just use the %From=name email address macro in the templates. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Changing From in Address Book template
Allie Martin wrote: You can just use the %From=name email address macro in the templates. Thanks to all respondents. This particular one identifies where I have been going wrong: I was not including my email address in the macro, so the server would not accept the results. -- Paul Richardson Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem with sending attachments
I have two e-mail accounts, one of which I normally use, and one in reserve. I'm having to use the reserve one at present because of a problem with the main one, and I'm finding that I can't send large attachments with it using the Bat!, although the two accounts appear to be identically configured in Account - Properties. When I try to send attachments (not even particularly large ones; I just tried with a 325 kb file), the Internet connection automatically terminates after a few seconds. Messages without attachments, or with very small attachments, are sent normally. Compressing the file with Winzip doesn't help. The problem doesn't lie with the reserve provider, because I can send attachments with the Netscape e-mail program. I use a router with the main provider, and an external modem with the reserve one. Any idea where the problem could be with The Bat? -- Mary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Changing reply prefix
Greetings, Again I come to you all with what will probably be an incredibly simple question. I want to change the prefix of quoted text from initials to the more familiar '' sign, but do not see where to do this. I checked in the templates, but didn't see anything there. Any help greatly appreciated, Steve Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Changing reply prefix
Steve SMS I want to change the prefix of quoted text from SMS initials to the more familiar '' sign, but do not see where to do SMS this. Account Properties - Templates - Reply -- Cheers Christian The Bat! v2.0 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5 .1 2600 Service Pack 1 Reading taglines makes you stupid. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Changing reply prefix
Hello Steve, Again I come to you all with what will probably be an incredibly simple question. I want to change the prefix of quoted text from initials to the more familiar '' sign, but do not see where to do this. I checked in the templates, but didn't see anything there. Account/Properties/Templates/Reply/Sender information used for quotation. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters, Spam and Edits
On Thursday, August 28, 2003, 9:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re: editing an inbox message: PJ If there is now a way to do so I would be thrilled to learn how! R Well, actually it is possible, but not solely with TB: R Export the message R Edit the subject with Notepad or another text editor. R Import the message back into TB. R Now you can delete the original message. R One disadvantage of this method is the the received time/date gets R changed into the time you've imported it. Roelof, Can you tell me exactly how I would export and import back? I see an export option under Tools but neither the msg or eml formats seem to be editable. I'm sure it's obvious but I can't figure it out. Thanks! -- Pat A Canadian in Houston 8/28/03 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Filters, Spam and Edits - test
Thursday, August 28, 2003, 10:36:11 AM, PJ wrote: P On Thursday, August 28, 2003, 9:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote P re: editing an inbox message: PJ If there is now a way to do so I would be thrilled to learn PJ how! You can also: 1. Drag the message to your Outbox folder. 2. Open it (double click on it) 3. Edit subject 4. Save it (don't send it) 5. Move it back to original folder A bit cumbersome, but less so than exporting and importing. -- Dave Kennedy Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Filters, Spam and Edits
It seems that P.Johnson (as quoted by a Canadian in Houston) said ... Well, actually it is possible, but not solely with TB: Export the message Edit the subject with Notepad or another text editor. Import the message back into TB. Now you can delete the original message. There might be a better way. A new user asked about the ability to edit received messages. Without testing, I replied, Try Ctrl-E. So today I tried it and thought I had provided bad advice. Ctrl-E opens the message for editing as I said. But when you try to close the message, TB asks if you want to save it and, if you do, demands an entry in the to field. Then it places the saved message in the outbox. It's a pending message, so it won't be sent unless you send it. (I specified [EMAIL PROTECTED] just to give it a valid-looking address.) The message is parked (although it's marked with a pending message icon instead of the usual parked P icon). I thought that was the end of the story, but it's not. You can then click the icon in the PARKED column to change the icon back to a blue dot and drag the message to a folder of your choosing. Once again TB proves that it's capable of just about anything! -- Bill Blinn Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 8/28/2003 at 10:46 AM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Random thought: Shareware: forget the manual...phone the author at home. Featured speaker at PowerPoint Live - Tucson, Arizona October 12-15, 2003 - http://www.pptlive.com/ Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Filters, Spam and Edits
On Thursday, August 28, 2003 at 3:52 PM, Bill wrote: Ctrl-E opens the message for editing as I said. But when you try to close the message, TB asks if you want to save it and, if you do, demands an entry in the to field. Then it places the saved message in the outbox. It's a pending message, so it won't be sent unless you send it. (I specified [EMAIL PROTECTED] just to give it a valid-looking address.) It doesn't even need a valid address. I usually put test in my messages that are drafts and it will save it just fine. Once again TB proves that it's capable of just about anything! Ain't it great? vbg I love this program. My next project is to try to get it to work in Linux under Wine. Then, I think my life will be complete. :) -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters, Spam and Edits - test
Hello Dave, 1. Drag the message to your Outbox folder. 2. Open it (double click on it) 3. Edit subject 4. Save it (don't send it) 5. Move it back to original folder As you say, it is probably the easiest method. However, you must be aware that this method does change some of the original RFC-822 header lines. For example see your own message I am replying to: ,- [ Original headers of received message: ] | Received: from spooler by ermapper-spain.com (Mercury/32 v3.32); 28 Aug 03 | 16:39:20 +0200 | X-Envelope-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Received: from draenor.its-toasted.org (62.80.28.8) by | puli.ermapper-spain.com (Mercury/32 v3.32) with ESMTP ID MG004D44; |28 Aug 03 16:39:14 +0200 | Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=draenor.its-toasted.org) | by draenor.its-toasted.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) | id 19sNvI-0003Wt-02; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:38:52 +0200 | Received: from iron.he.net ([216.218.155.2]) | by draenor.its-toasted.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) | id 19sNvA-0003W9-00 | for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:38:44 +0200 | Received: from 127.0.0.1 (iron.he.net [216.218.155.2]) by iron.he.net | (8.8.6p2003-03-31/8.8.2) with ESMTP id HAA18354 for | [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 07:38:40 -0700 | Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 10:38:40 -0400 | From: Dave Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] | X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal | X-Priority: 3 (Normal) | Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: P.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] | In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | MIME-Version: 1.0 | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | Subject: Re[3]: Filters, Spam and Edits - test | X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 | Precedence: list | Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | List-Id: tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com | List-Unsubscribe: http://stromgrade.its-toasted.org/mailman/listinfo/tbudl, | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | List-Subscribe: http://stromgrade.its-toasted.org/mailman/listinfo/tbudl, | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] `- ,- [ After moving to Outbox and back: ] | Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:24:51 +0200 | From: Dave Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] | X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Business | Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | X-Priority: 3 (Normal) | Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: P.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: Re[3]: Filters, Spam and Edits - test | In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | MIME-Version: 1.0 | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit `- -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachment Filters
Roelof- Thursday, August 28, 2003, 1:59:27 AM, you wrote: RO No. TB doesn't filter attachments, not even the even on the name. The RO logic behind not filtering attachments is sound, since it could mean RO very long filtering times on messages with large attachments. I RO wouldn't like it when some filters with location=everywhere would RO start checking multiple MB attachments. Not necessarily sound logic. Filtering on attachment names could be triggered by boundary kludges such as: Content-Type: image/jpeg; name=16e1877.jpg; Content-Type: application/msword; name=BRAZIL.doc (OK - officially these aren't kludges, since they're in the body of the message, but I'm not sure there's another term for them) -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters, Spam and Edits
Hello P.Johnson, On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 09:31:06 -0500 GMT (28/08/2003, 21:31 +0700 GMT), P.Johnson wrote: Can you tell me exactly how I would export and import back? I see an export option under Tools but neither the msg or eml formats seem to be editable. Over here, all formats (.msg, .eml, .mbx) appear to be plaintext and can be edited with any plaintext editor. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Ein Computerfreak wird die Zeit, die der Computer automatisch arbeitet, dazu benutzen, ihm dabei unbewegt zuzusehen, um zu beobachten, ob er richtig laeuft. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Filters, Spam and Edits - test
Thanks Dave and everyone. I'm finding dragging the message to the Outbox and editing is the simplest way for me. -- Pat A Canadian in Houston - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - On Thursday, August 28, 2003, 12:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: D Thursday, August 28, 2003, 10:36:11 AM, PJ wrote: P On Thursday, August 28, 2003, 9:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote P re: editing an inbox message: PJ If there is now a way to do so I would be thrilled to learn PJ how! D You can also: D 1. Drag the message to your Outbox folder. D 2. Open it (double click on it) D 3. Edit subject D 4. Save it (don't send it) D 5. Move it back to original folder D A bit cumbersome, but less so than exporting and importing. D -- D Dave Kennedy D D Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: D http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html 8/28/03 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Preventing an e-mail from being sent
Hi all, Is there a way to prevent e-mail being sent to an address? I've tried an outgoing e-mail filter but it doesn't work. It seems to be triggered only after the e-mail's been sent. I have a friend who is looking for an e-mail solution for a small law office and they'd like to be able to do something along these lines to ensure that e-mail doesn't inadvertently get sent somewhere it isn't supposed to go, like opposing counsel. Sounds to me sort of like an outgoing whitelist would serve the purpose, but I haven't ever heard of anything like that. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Preventing an e-mail from being sent
Hello Terry, You can have multiple ADDRESS books for your clients versus opposing counsel. Just send your bulk email to only ONE mailing list or use only one address book... Hope this helps...This is how we handle it BOB Thursday, August 28, 2003, 10:38:53 AM, you wrote: T Hi all, T Is there a way to prevent e-mail being sent to an address? I've tried T an outgoing e-mail filter but it doesn't work. It seems to be T triggered only after the e-mail's been sent. T I have a friend who is looking for an e-mail solution for a small law T office and they'd like to be able to do something along these lines to T ensure that e-mail doesn't inadvertently get sent somewhere it isn't T supposed to go, like opposing counsel. Sounds to me sort of like an T outgoing whitelist would serve the purpose, but I haven't ever heard T of anything like that. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. -- Best regards, Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters, Spam and Edits - test
Thursday, August 28, 2003, 11:32:17 AM, MAU wrote: M As you say, it is probably the easiest method. However, you M must be aware that this method does change some of the M original RFC-822 header lines. Good point. The solution is not perfect, but likely suffices in most situations. I solve (actually avoid) the problem by not adding the e-mail classification to my Subject: line. This was already suggested. -- Dave Kennedy Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Preventing an e-mail from being sent
On Thursday, August 28, 2003 at 6:44 PM, Bob wrote: You can have multiple ADDRESS books for your clients versus opposing counsel. Just send your bulk email to only ONE mailing list or use only one address book... Hope this helps...This is how we handle it BOB Thanks for the suggestion, Bob. I will look into multiple address books. -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
PGP signature
Hello tbudl, Is there any way to add some ones key from a message? When I get a PGP signed message, and click on the signature button on the viewer, it opens the PGP log window, but there seems to be no way off adding it to my keyring. Any ideas? I am using PGP Version 8 and The Bat! version 2/b5 -- Best regards, Michael ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Another victim of involuntary performance art. http://www.thompsonmike.co.uk/ PGP KeyID := 0xA9547E32 Using TheBat! Version 2.0 Beta/5 Running On Windows XP (2600, Service Pack 1) Sent From OneAndOne pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Preventing an e-mail from being sent
Hello Bob, On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, at 10:44:40 [GMT -0700] (which was 18:44 in my TimeZone) you wrote: BB Hello Terry, BB You can have multiple ADDRESS books for your clients versus opposing counsel. Just send BB your bulk email to only ONE mailing list or use only one address book... BB Hope this helps...This is how we handle it BB BOB BB Thursday, August 28, 2003, 10:38:53 AM, you wrote: T Hi all, T Is there a way to prevent e-mail being sent to an address? I've tried T an outgoing e-mail filter but it doesn't work. It seems to be T triggered only after the e-mail's been sent. T I have a friend who is looking for an e-mail solution for a small law T office and they'd like to be able to do something along these lines to T ensure that e-mail doesn't inadvertently get sent somewhere it isn't T supposed to go, like opposing counsel. Sounds to me sort of like an T outgoing whitelist would serve the purpose, but I haven't ever heard T of anything like that. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Please Dont Top Post. -- Best regards, Michael http://www.thompsonmike.co.uk/ PGP KeyID := 0xA9547E32 If a motorist cuts you off, just turn the other cheek. Nothing gets the message across like a good mooning. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Preventing an e-mail from being sent
Hello Terry, On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, at 18:38:53 [GMT +0100] (which was 18:38 in my TimeZone) you wrote: T Hi all, T Is there a way to prevent e-mail being sent to an address? I've tried T an outgoing e-mail filter but it doesn't work. It seems to be T triggered only after the e-mail's been sent. T I have a friend who is looking for an e-mail solution for a small law T office and they'd like to be able to do something along these lines to T ensure that e-mail doesn't inadvertently get sent somewhere it isn't T supposed to go, like opposing counsel. Sounds to me sort of like an T outgoing whitelist would serve the purpose, but I haven't ever heard T of anything like that. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. I dont think there is any way to do this in the bat. However you could if you are networked, set one PC up as a mail server, and use rules on that mailserver to block messages. You would of course need mailserver software, kerio or such like. There are free mailservers available. I am sure someone else knows where you can find them, I cant remember any off the top of my head. -- Best regards, Michael http://www.thompsonmike.co.uk/ PGP KeyID := 0xA9547E32 Man who speaks with forked tongue should not kiss balloon pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: OT: Vote for The Bat! :-)
Hello Bill, On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, at 06:57:33 [GMT -0400] (which was 11:57 in my TimeZone) you wrote: BBTE It seems that Jamie Dainton said ... J I'm suprised at how well TB! is doing, I know it's the ebst mailer in J the world but I was suprised that so many other people do. BBTE An announcement to a group such as this can skew the results a bit. BBTE But that's OK. Maybe it will convince more people to look at it. TB BBTE could own the power users (maybe it already does) and better BBTE documentation could bring more average users in. Maybe it would, but in a good way. If people saw how popular it is, they are more likly to take a look. Pulling in the users. Like you say, more Joe Average users would be good. -- Best regards, Michael http://www.thompsonmike.co.uk/ PGP KeyID := 0xA9547E32 I don't get even, I get odder. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: OT: Vote for The Bat! :-)
Hello Deborah, On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, at 08:04:56 [GMT -0400] (which was 13:04 in my TimeZone) you wrote: DW On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, 5:06:17 AM, David Anderson wrote: DA It could be partly due to the fact that so many writers in the UK DA computer magazines (PC Pro and PCW) say that it is the best. DW Not always tho...it was an article in a UK pc mag (might have been DW PCPro, I can't remember, it was one of those thick ones filled with ads DW anyway G) which was very effusive over TB that made me download it to DW have a look - , like the reviewer, I was hooked within days :-) It was PCPro, the ever Bat Loving Dave Winder. -- Best regards, Michael http://www.thompsonmike.co.uk/ PGP KeyID := 0xA9547E32 My attention isn't hard to get. It IS hard to keep... pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: OT: Vote for The Bat! :-)
Hello Vishal, On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, at 19:20:35 [GMT -0400] (which was 00:20 in my TimeZone) you wrote: V Hi Allen V Wednesday, August 27, 2003, 7:26:31 AM, you wrote: A whereas TB users results will reflect perfection -- after all, what -can't- TB do? V TB is good, but not perfect by any means. Nothing can be perfect, there is always room for improvement. And those people at RITLabs are making some pretty heavy improvements. I can say without fear that my default client is and will always be a fully licensed copy of The Bat! -- Best regards, Michael http://www.thompsonmike.co.uk/ PGP KeyID := 0xA9547E32 Men are like small children. You bring a new one home and the ones already there resent it. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: POP3 to IMAP
Hello Brandt, On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, at 12:44:06 [GMT -0700] (which was 20:44 in my TimeZone) you wrote: B Have you tried using BACKUP, and only selecting messages with B folders? B Just an idea. ARGGHh Origional message under the sig limiter? UGLY!!! -- Best regards, Michael http://www.thompsonmike.co.uk/ PGP KeyID := 0xA9547E32 Early to rise, early to bed, makes a man healthy, wealthy and dead. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP signature
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Michael, on Thu, 28 Aug 2003 19:05:43 +0100GMT (28.08.03, 20:05 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MT Is there any way to add some ones key from a message? When I get a PGP MT signed message, and click on the signature button on the viewer, it MT opens the PGP log window, but there seems to be no way off adding it MT to my keyring. MT Any ideas? MT I am using PGP Version 8 and The Bat! version 2/b5 I have no experience with PGP 8. With 6.5.8 I had to provide some key servers in PGP keys. Now every time TB! encounters an unknown key it connects to the key servers and tries to retrieve it. It didn't work with your key. Where can I get your public key to verify your signature? - -- Cheers Peter Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing. (Dick Brandon) Winamp currently playing: Colosseum - Rope Ladder to the Moon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBP04/TAM2UgbhB3TOEQL3KACg/WTFWtVRc0RqfqrrlISTBjHWRtoAoPoo EuS/gQ44IUmMxfLvw9BnMg9z =Aw8l -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Preventing an e-mail from being sent
Hello Michael, Please Dont Top Post. Please trim your quotes ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP signature
On Thursday, August 28, 2003, Michael Thompson wrote... Is there any way to add some ones key from a message? When I get a PGP signed message, and click on the signature button on the viewer, it opens the PGP log window, but there seems to be no way off adding it to my keyring. There should be an option in PGP that will automatically fetch PGP keys, it's not an option inside TB iirc. I'm not sure where it is in PGP 8 however. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) !edis gnorw eht morf siht ta gnikool era uoY pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PGP signature
Hello Peter, On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, at 20:44:24 [GMT +0200] (which was 19:44 in my TimeZone) you wrote: PM Hi Michael, PM on Thu, 28 Aug 2003 19:05:43 +0100GMT (28.08.03, 20:05 +0200GMT here), PM you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MT Is there any way to add some ones key from a message? When I get a PGP MT signed message, and click on the signature button on the viewer, it MT opens the PGP log window, but there seems to be no way off adding it MT to my keyring. MT Any ideas? MT I am using PGP Version 8 and The Bat! version 2/b5 PM I have no experience with PGP 8. With 6.5.8 I had to provide some key PM servers in PGP keys. Now every time TB! encounters an unknown key it PM connects to the key servers and tries to retrieve it. My system does contact the master key server, and communicates with it. However, it is only the Log window that opens, and there appears to be no way to add the key from TB or the log window. :( PM It didn't work with your key. Where can I get your public key to verify your signature? The key id (0xA9547E32) is in my sig. It is also available from http://www.thompsonmike.co.uk/pgppubliccompat.txt -- Best regards, Michael http://www.thompsonmike.co.uk/ PGP KeyID := 0xA9547E32 Goodness has NOTHING to do with it. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Preventing an e-mail from being sent
Hello MAU, On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, at 20:48:22 [GMT +0200] (which was 19:48 in my TimeZone) you wrote: M Hello Michael, Please Dont Top Post. M Please trim your quotes ;-) I admit. I lower head in embarrassment. :) -- Best regards, Michael http://www.thompsonmike.co.uk/ PGP KeyID := 0xA9547E32 Top Fifty Least-Known Facts About Saddam Hussein-- Issued a fatwah against Bad, Bad Leroy Brown, claiming that only he, Saddam, can be the baddest man in the whole damn town. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachment Filters
Hello Roelof, Thursday, August 28, 2003, 9:59:27 AM, you wrote: RO e. The RO logic behind not filtering attachments is sound, since it could mean RO very long filtering times on messages with large attachments. I RO wouldn't like it when some filters with location=everywhere would RO start checking multiple MB attachments. It wouldn't take any longer to check the filename of a large file than a small file. Using that logic it would take longer to read the title of War and Peace than Bridget Jones Diary -- Jamie Dainton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP signature
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, August 28, 2003 6:19:16 PM (GMT -05:00) RE: PGP signature Greetings Michael, On Thursday, August 28, 2003, 2:05:43 PM, you wrote: Michael Is there any way to add some ones key from a message? When I get a PGP Michael signed message, and click on the signature button on the viewer, it Michael opens the PGP log window, but there seems to be no way off adding it Michael to my keyring. Michael Any ideas? Michael I am using PGP Version 8 and The Bat! version 2/b5 As well as with yours. Your key seems not to be available from any public key server. Anyway ... When you select to verify the key of another your PGP should automatically scan the public key servers for that individuals key. Once located a box should pop up with the key information and you should hit SELECT then IMPORT. Once you have imported the key open PGPKeys and select that key then select SIGN. If you have configured your PGP properly is should then attempt to connect to a public key server and update that signed key. - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. Everything I need to know I got from watching Gilligan's Island. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 9.0b1 Comment: KeyID: 0xECFE3F95 Comment: Fingerprint: 8ABE 6728 1CB9 E231 B2C8 C29D BC22 D3D1 ECFE 3F95 iQA/AwUBP06A/bwi09Hs/j+VEQJwQQCgvdTBpqK6z7tn4O6yGX/0FM29nXYAoPRG Fw6kkIjmbSKtAUrMKBJlS5dy =X2LM -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
regexp in selective download filter problem
I'm trying to filter out messages with From: field containing address that starts with 238, and then has three digits before @. Regexp I'm using is ^238\d\d\d@ . I tested this regexp with regular filter -- it worked just fine (after I enabled regular expression filtering). Then I created a Selective Download rule with ^238\d\d\d@ as its Signal String, and checked Match any string as regular expression at the Advanced tab. This rule does not work. What am I doing wrong? Here is an example of header of a message that does not filter out: === Received: from 68.192.227.68 (ool-44c0e344.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.227.68]) by pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (8.12.4/8.9.2) with SMTP id h7RM5W3W000868 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 18:05:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 06:34:39 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: 1176141317 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DVD Backup Movies 238989 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit = I use v1.62r under WinXP. Thanks, --T. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PGP signature
Hello DG, On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, at 18:23:59 [GMT -0400] (which was 23:23 in my TimeZone) you wrote: DRS On Thursday, August 28, 2003, 2:05:43 PM, you wrote: Michael Is there any way to add some ones key from a Michael message? When I get a PGP Michael signed message, and click on the signature button on the viewer, it Michael opens the PGP log window, but there seems to be no way off adding it Michael to my keyring. Michael Any ideas? Michael I am using PGP Version 8 and The Bat! version 2/b5 DRS When you select to verify the key of another your PGP should DRS automatically scan the public key servers for that individuals key. DRS Once located a box should pop up with the key information and you DRS should hit SELECT then IMPORT. I dont get these options, just the log window opens. -- Best regards, Michael http://www.thompsonmike.co.uk/ PGP KeyID := 0xA9547E32 Honeymoon: time between I do and you'd better pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
