Re: folder templates inheritance?

2003-10-02 Thread Gerrit Kiers
 Hello Roelof,

Wednesday, October 1, 2003, 10:54:16 PM, Roelof Otten wrote:

RO Samson wanted to filter his message back to the folder where they were
RO created. To do that, you need to identify to the folder. That's done
RO with the macro I suggested. You place the macro on a single line,
RO doesn't matter where in your templates. (New message, Reply, Forward)
Ah, indeed I overlooked the previous posts on this question.

RO Now you need to filter the messages back to their originating folder
RO after sending. (Or to a related folder.) snip
It's fully clear to me now, thanks!


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Re: MyGate References

2003-10-02 Thread MAU
Hello Peter,

 Has anybody experienced that before? I don't if the server is my news
 server or MyGate.

I haven't seen this error. It looks like it is the server generating the
error, but if you log MyGate session you should be able to see for sure.

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Re: folder templates inheritance?

2003-10-02 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Samson,

On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:56:30 -0700GMT (2-10-03, 3:56 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

RO Apart from that, I can't get any of them to work. :-(

S I think the key is, before you specify your own header, you must first
S define this header in option/preference/message-headers. otherwise
S %setheader won't work.

Well, let's try that...
After saving this message as draft, it actually shows an X-Folder-ID
header. So you're right.

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Re: folder templates inheritance?

2003-10-02 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Samson,

On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:53:55 -0700GMT (2-10-03, 3:53 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

S So far I'm setting this Setheader macro in each of my project sub
S folder one by one. seems no way to change once and apply to all...

There's one thing I didn't mention before. When all of your templates
have certain things in common, you can put those items in one (or
more) Quick Template(s).
You call those QTs from the template you're using with
%Qinclude=Handle
Next time you're going to add something to all of your templates, you
can add it to one of those common QTs, it makes it easy to change some
things system wide. It's quite a job to start with it, but once you've
got it functioning it's the best way to keep your templates up to date.

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Re: folder templates inheritance?

2003-10-02 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Roelof,

On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 10:29:45 +0200GMT (2-10-03, 10:29 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

RO X-Folder-Id: TBUDL

RO it actually shows an X-Folder-ID header. So you're right.

Yikes, it shows 'Id' instead of 'ID', all my definitions ask for 'ID'
so there's definitely something left to be desired.

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Re: Note to screenreader users, was Re: Screen readers and TheBat

2003-10-02 Thread Krister Ekstrom
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SMS What a cool feature!!!  Only problem is, how can I copy more text from
SMS the original message?

If you have view|original message selected, there's a window one tab
to the left of the message editor. Here, the original message is
visible. Select what you want to copy and right click. Now you're in a
menu where the first choise is quote. Select it, hit enter and
voila, the quoted text is in the message.
Yup, TB! is a truely awesome program.
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Re: MyGate References

2003-10-02 Thread Peter Fjelsten
MAU,

On 02-10-2003 09:21, you [M] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
M I haven't seen this error. It looks like it is the server generating
M the error, but if you log MyGate session you should be able to see
M for sure.

It _was_ the news server. Strange.

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Re: TheBat mailbox format

2003-10-02 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi Pranav,

@02-Oct-2003, 08:29 +0530 (03:59 UK time) Pranav Lal said:

 In what format does TheBat store its mail boxes? Does it use the
 unix style mail format like Eudora?

No. It uses a proprietary format but has UNIX format available for
both export and import.

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Suggestion for better message list view reading

2003-10-02 Thread Pranav Lal
Hi all,

A couple of tips I found to improve navigation in the message list view. I 
have used these tips with JFW v4.51.119.
1. I reclassified the message list view to a list view. The class name was 
TListView or something like that.

2. I added a custom highlight color after highlighting a message. I found 
that this improved JFW's responsiveness in the message list view.

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Insertion pointer sticking in certain messages

2003-10-02 Thread Pranav Lal
Hi all,

While scrolling in a message with my arrow keys, I find that the insertion 
pointer gets stuck at a certain point in the message. Repeatedly hitting 
the up or down arrow does not seem to move the insertion pointer. My screen 
reader (JFW v4.51.119) keeps repeating the same line of text. The text of 
the message below that line is visible. I have varified this by using the 
mouse.

The solution to the problem seems to be to click on the text below that 
line. I can then read the subsequent part of the message.

The view is set to vertical splitter or something like that. Could this be 
the cause of the problem? If yes, then what view should I try?

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JFW [performs differently in different views

2003-10-02 Thread Pranav Lal
	Hi all,

I have found that JFW performs differently in different folder views. If I 
set my view to horizontal then jfw is very slow as in navigation among 
different mail boxes is very sluggish. If I however set the mail box to 
vertical splitter then navigation is fast.

Has any one else encountered this problem?

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Re: MyGate References

2003-10-02 Thread MAU
Hello Peter,

 It _was_ the news server. Strange.

Yes, strange. I have never seen it before.

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Re: JFW [performs differently in different views

2003-10-02 Thread Andrew Hodgson
  Hello Pranav,

Thursday, October 2, 2003, 11:23:01 AM, you wrote:

PL Hi all,

PL I have found that JFW performs differently in different folder views. If I
PL set my view to horizontal then jfw is very slow as in navigation among
PL different mail boxes is very sluggish. If I however set the mail box to
PL vertical splitter then navigation is fast.

  I  have  not  found  this as much, but I get more feedback imho when
  using  the  splitter  down  the  middle  of  the screen (I can never
  remember  whether  this  horizontal or vertical)??  This is also the
  default view.  I also turned off the preview pane which also made it
  faster to navigate.

Andrew.

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Re: Suggestion for better message list view reading

2003-10-02 Thread Dennis W. Greer
Hello Pranav,

On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 15:57:16 +0530 GMT (10/2/2003, 3:27 AM +0700 GMT),
Pranav Lal wrote:

PL A couple of tips I found to improve navigation in the message list view. I
PL have used these tips with JFW v4.51.119.
PL 1. I reclassified the message list view to a list view. The class name was
PL TListView or something like that.

PL 2. I added a custom highlight color after highlighting a message. I found
PL that this improved JFW's responsiveness in the message list view.

What is JFW? Why use Eudora on this list? Why no cut line?


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Re: Suggestion for better message list view reading

2003-10-02 Thread Krister Ekstrom
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JFW stands for Jaws for Windows. Jaws stands for Job access with
speech. This is a so called screen reader, which is an application
that presents screen contents to a blind person using either synthetic
speech or braille or both. Using this program, it's possible for a
blind person to view and act upon the contents of the screen in
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Re: Suggestion for better message list view reading

2003-10-02 Thread Pranav Lal
Hi Dennis,
snip What is JFW? Why use Eudora on this list? Why no cut line?
JFW is an abbreviation for jaws for windows. It is a screen reader that 
verbalizes the contentsof a computer screen. See 
http://www.freedomscientific.com for more information. At this point, I am 
still evaluating TheBat. My primary email client is still Eudora.

What do you mean by a Cut line?

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Re: JFW [performs differently in different views

2003-10-02 Thread Pranav Lal
Hi Andrew,

As for the middle of the screen, it can be either horizontal or vertical.

How do you turn off the preview pain?

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TB!, SpamPal, or POP Server?

2003-10-02 Thread Joseph N.
I am having two problems, and I cannot determine whether they are
related or where they are originating. (Background here is that I have
my messages set to remain on the server for four days or until emptied
from trash; I have SpamPal set up with the RegEx, URL Body, and
Bayesian filters; and I retrieve my mail from a SquirrelMail server by
POP.) One problem I'm having is that mail often--but not
always--downloads twice, even after it has been deleted from my trash
bin, and--I swear this has been repeatedly confirmed as true--even
after I have gone in to the POP server through the web and deleted
mail. Mail deleted from the server which has never been d/l into TB!
does not d/l, but if it has once been d/l into TB! it *may* d/l again
even though it has been deleted on the server. The other problem is
that SpamPal sometimes just spins and spins and does not ever allow
downloading; the process has to be terminated through Windows.

Any idea what in the world is going on with either of these issues?

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Re[2]: Suggestion for better message list view reading

2003-10-02 Thread Allen


10/2/2003, 8:12 AM: Pranav said in Suggestion for better message list view reading

PL At  this  point,  I  am  still evaluating TheBat. My primary email
PL client is still Eudora.

It's a great program, once you get a handle on it -- quick  powerful.
Hope you find yourself quite at home using it . . .

PL What do you mean by a Cut line?

Proper  etiquette  on  this  list  is  to have a cut line or signature
delimiter.  Your precede your signature with -- ( dot dot dash ). Most
people   on   this  list  are,  naturally,  using  The  Bat!,  and  TB
automatically  truncates  all  text from the delimiter on down.

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Re[2]: JFW [performs differently in different views

2003-10-02 Thread Allen


10/2/2003, 8:09 AM: Pranav said in JFW [performs differently in different views

PL How do you turn off the preview pain?

shift + ctrl + e
  or
view, Message Auto View

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Re: TB!, SpamPal, or POP Server?

2003-10-02 Thread Joseph N.
   On Thursday, October 02, 2003, Joseph N. wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

JN The other problem is that SpamPal sometimes just spins and spins
JN and does not ever allow downloading; the process has to be
JN terminated through Windows.

To answer part of my own query, it seems the culprit here might be the
Bayesian plug-in, version 1.07e3.  Still evaluating, though

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Re[2]: Suggestion for better message list view reading

2003-10-02 Thread Chris G
Hello Dennis,



Thursday, October 2, 2003, 7:52:36 AM, you wrote:

DWG What is JFW? Why use Eudora on this list? Why no cut line?

jfw stands for jaws for windows from www.freedomscientific.com
it's a software program that will allow blind and visually impared people to use the 
computer.
it makes the computer talk.
sometimes the screen readers do not interact good with programs.
this is why i hope ritlabs will include some accessibility feachers.
the bat is a very nice and powerfull program, but it's not always speech friendly.
Chris




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Re: TB!, SpamPal, or POP Server?

2003-10-02 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Thursday, October 2, 2003, 2:18:22 PM, Joseph N. wrote:

JN The other problem is that SpamPal sometimes just spins and spins
JN and does not ever allow downloading; the process has to be
JN terminated through Windows.

 To answer part of my own query, it seems the culprit here might be the
 Bayesian plug-in, version 1.07e3.  Still evaluating, though

I had the same problems with the new version of the Bayesian plug-in
too, and went back to the previous version of it (1.06) which works
OK.

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views and automatic mail fetching

2003-10-02 Thread Michael L. Cusac
When I look at some folders, I want the view to be 'all messages',
while I want other folders to be 'only unread messages'. Is there a
way to set the default view on a per-folder basis?

Also, when viewing 'only unread messages', if TB! checks the server
and gets new messages, the view is refreshed and messages I've just
read disappear.  I want TB! to auto-check for new messages, but I do
not want the view to be refreshed in that case.  Is there either a way
to stop TB! from refreshing the view automatically or to have it
suspend auto-fetching while I'm reading mail?

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Re: Suggestion for better message list view reading

2003-10-02 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Allen,

Thursday, October 2, 2003, 6:54:44 AM, you wrote:
A Proper etiquette on this list is to have a cut line or signature
A delimiter. Your precede your signature with -- ( dot dot dash ).
A Most people on this list are, naturally, using The Bat!, and TB
A automatically truncates all text from the delimiter on down.


Rather dash dash space



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Re: First impressions

2003-10-02 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Mark,

Tuesday, September 30, 2003, 8:39:13 PM, you wrote:
MW V2 has proven to be *significantly* slower than previous versions,
MW especially in dealing with network issues. It easily takes 15
MW seconds to respond when I try to delete a message - meanwhile TB's
MW CPU usage goes up to 30%.

I can't confirm. I just copied over all of my TBBETA messages to a
folder (4,575 of them), then did CTRL-* to expand all the threads,
CTRL-A to highlight all, and then pressed the DEL key. it took less
than 6 seconds.

To further check (just in case weirdness of copying messages), I
selected all the messages in my Kerio Firewall list folder (2,617
messages) and deleted all of them (less than 5 seconds). I haven't
read the Kerio List since their new pay version came out, so it was no
big loss.

Even deleting a single message, it was pretty much instantaneous.


MW Also, folder event updates don't seem to propagate around the
MW network. When the server receives a new message or when a message
MW goes out from the outbox the client machines never receive an
MW update. I have to move the focus to each individual folder to see
MW if there's anything new.

Not sure what you mean here. IMAP? I'm just using POP3 to pull down
messages from the Domino server, and TB correctly updates all folders
and message ticker.



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Re[2]: Suggestion for better message list view reading

2003-10-02 Thread Allen


10/2/2003, 10:20 AM: Leif said in Suggestion for better message list view reading

LG Hello Allen,

LG Thursday, October 2, 2003, 6:54:44 AM, you wrote:
A Proper etiquette on this list is to have a cut line or signature
A delimiter. Your precede your signature with -- ( dot dot dash ).
A Most people on this list are, naturally, using The Bat!, and TB
A automatically truncates all text from the delimiter on down.


LG Rather dash dash space

I think I deserve a fish.

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Re[3]: Suggestion for better message list view reading

2003-10-02 Thread Chris G
Hello Allen,



Thursday, October 2, 2003, 10:50:03 AM, you wrote:



A 10/2/2003, 10:20 AM: Leif said in Suggestion for better message list view reading
where can one download beta versions of the bat?

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Re: Suggestion for better message list view reading

2003-10-02 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Allen,

Thursday, October 2, 2003, 8:50:03 AM, you wrote:
LG Rather dash dash space

A I think I deserve a fish.

S'ok. grin... We'll just pretend that you were in the middle of
a heavy Morse Code conversation, and you mistakenly spelled out the
letter U.

:-)



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Re[3]: Suggestion for better message list view reading

2003-10-02 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Allen,

Thursday, October 2, 2003, 4:50:03 PM, you wrote:

LG Rather dash dash space

A I think I deserve a fish.

I think you should go to the nearest river, lake or sea and catch one
for yourself! 't Would be too easy!   :-)


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Upgrade troubles

2003-10-02 Thread Ricardo van Eck
Hello all,

  I have an installation of The Bat! on my desktop at home and my
  laptop. Every Upgrade I did on the desktop was a success. Every
  upgrade I did on my laptop was a failure. I have been using The Bat!
  since November 2002.

  When I update on my laptop (1.xx and now 2.00.6) I always lose
  folder settings and templates. Also every account and folder gets an
  duplicate account and folder. And when I delete a duplicate account
  or folder the original disappears also. Off course I made a backup
  before I started the upgrade. But restoring the backup still leaves
  me without folder settings and templates. It's getting a real pain
  to go to every folder and account.

  Any ideas?

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subpattern returned by %REGEXPTEXT

2003-10-02 Thread Michael L. Cusac
I am new to trying to capture subpatterns using regex. I am using TB!
to create logs of e-mails Hamster has killed for me. Hamster does not
create logs, but rather creates individual e-mails for each killed
message. I am using TB! to extract info from the Hamster-generated
mails; each Hamster-generated mail contains the killed mail's headers
in its text body.

Here's an example regex:

^subject:\s(\*\*\*\sGMX\sSpamverdacht\s\*\*\*\s)?(.*?)$
111   222

I want to capture subpattern 2, which is the original subject;  I do
not want to capture the string *** GMX Spamverdacht *** which GMX
may or may not have prepended to the original subject.

I thought that %REGEXPTEXT captured the highest numbered subpattern,
in this case 2, but it seems to be capturing subpattern 1.

I have read the help, and looked through Gerd Ewald's regex tutorial
again, but I'm afraid my head is spinning a bit. From playing with
things, ISTM that %REGEXPTEXT will return subpattern 0 if that is the
only one matched, and will return subpattern 1 if more than one
subpattern is matched. Do I have this right now? And if I want to
capture a subpattern other than 0 or 1 I will have to use
%SETPATTREGEXP, %REGEXPBLINDMATCH, and %SUBPATT ?

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Combinedecode attachments

2003-10-02 Thread Sergey Kovalyov
Hello TBUDL,

I  received very big file as attachment (*.exe) which was divided into
parts. How to combine those parts in TB! to get the file working?

In OE you can just click on CombineDecode and everything's done but
in TB! it's not that easy. ...Or did I miss something?

The Bat! 2.00.6

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Re: Suggestion for better message list view reading

2003-10-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Leif,

On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:57:38 -0600 GMT (02/10/2003, 21:57 +0700 GMT),
Leif Gregory wrote:

LG Rather dash dash space

A I think I deserve a fish.

 S'ok. grin... We'll just pretend that you were in the middle of
 a heavy Morse Code conversation, and you mistakenly spelled out the
 letter U.

Leif, the man is hungry. He knows how to catch a fish, but all you
give him is a U. Gimme an F, gimme an I, gimme an S, gimme an H!

f'up2tbot.

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Re: views and automatic mail fetching

2003-10-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Michael,

On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:23:53 -0500 GMT (02/10/2003, 21:23 +0700 GMT),
Michael L. Cusac wrote:

 When I look at some folders, I want the view to be 'all messages',
 while I want other folders to be 'only unread messages'. Is there a
 way to set the default view on a per-folder basis?

No. A view, once set, applies to all folders. Stefan has advised that
this will be changed soon.

 Also, when viewing 'only unread messages', if TB! checks the server
 and gets new messages, the view is refreshed and messages I've just
 read disappear.  I want TB! to auto-check for new messages, but I do
 not want the view to be refreshed in that case.  Is there either a way
 to stop TB! from refreshing the view automatically or to have it
 suspend auto-fetching while I'm reading mail?

I don't know about this one.

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Re: subpattern returned by %REGEXPTEXT

2003-10-02 Thread Gerd Ewald
Good evening Michael L. Cusac !

  
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 10:47:02 -0500 GMT your local time,
which was 02.10.2003, 17:47 (GMT+0200) where I live, you (Michael Cusac)
wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 I thought that %REGEXPTEXT captured the highest numbered subpattern,
 in this case 2, but it seems to be capturing subpattern 1.

I'm quite sure it does.

Try this: ^subject:\s(?:\*\*\*\sGMX\sSpamverdacht\s\*\*\*\s)?(.*?)$

This escapes the first parentheses and it does not count as a
subpattern

[...]

And if I want to
 capture a subpattern other than 0 or 1 I will have to use
 %SETPATTREGEXP, %REGEXPBLINDMATCH, and %SUBPATT ?

Try
%SETPATTREGEXP=^subject:\s(\*\*\*\sGMX\sSpamverdacht\s\*\*\*\s)?(.*?)$%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%HEADER%-
%SUBPATT=2

I hope the macro is %HEADER??

HTH

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Re: folder templates inheritance?

2003-10-02 Thread Martin Webster
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Hello Roelof,

On 02 October 2003, 10:45 +0200 (02/10/200309:45 local time) Roelof
Otten [RO] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

RO Yikes, it shows 'Id' instead of 'ID', all my definitions ask for 'ID'
RO so there's definitely something left to be desired.

I noticed that too. But it does work if you already have folder
templates (see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]).

I'd still like to know the difference between %HDR and %SETHEADER.

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Re:Folder purging/cleaning ??

2003-10-02 Thread Rob
Hi Roelof,

on Thu, 2 Oct 2003, at 01:56:03 local time (GMT +0200), you wrote:

R But i see what's happening now ; when i purge the folder, all messages i
R just read are moved to Trash, regardless of their date ?!

RO That's not the intended behaviour.

i would hope so ...   ;-)

R I would expect that older, un-read messages should be trashed first

RO That's how it happens here. Well, now I realise that you've got (lots
RO of) unread messages in your folder. Maybe that's the problem.
RO What happens when you mark all messages read? (Select the folder in
RO the account tree pane and press Ctrl-M)

OK, that helped !! Now after prurging the folder, only 999 mails remain !
And AFAICS no new messages were deleted ...

So there seems to be a bug that deletes the wrong messages - and the wrong
number - when there are a LOT of (all ?) unread messages in a folder ... ??

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Re: First impressions

2003-10-02 Thread Mark Wieder
Leif-

Thursday, October 2, 2003, 7:40:55 AM, you wrote:

LG messages) and deleted all of them (less than 5 seconds). I haven't
LG read the Kerio List since their new pay version came out, so it was no
LG big loss.

g

LG Even deleting a single message, it was pretty much instantaneous.

Pretty bizarre. I do notice that you're using a later build, so maybe
that's the difference. At any rate, I'm quite willing to wait for
something more stable to be released officially. I'm just amused that
the 1.63 beta works so much better for me than the v2 release.

g
Oh, all right... I also see that you've got a 2GHz Pentium 4 and I'm
still sitting here with a 400MHz PII... wanna trade?
/g

LG Not sure what you mean here. IMAP? I'm just using POP3 to pull down
LG messages from the Domino server, and TB correctly updates all folders
LG and message ticker.

I've got TB running in server mode on my win2k server and in TCP-less
client mode on the workstations. V2 for me pulls down email properly
on the server machine and sends outgoing mail, but the workstations
never see that new mail has come in or that the outboxes have gotten
emptied unless I move the focus to the specific folder. Rather a pain.

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Re: First impressions

2003-10-02 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Mark,

Thursday, October 2, 2003, 12:50:49 PM, you wrote:
MW Oh, all right... I also see that you've got a 2GHz Pentium 4 and
MW I'm still sitting here with a 400MHz PII... wanna trade?


Uhm Lesse. Uhm. No!!! grin


MW I've got TB running in server mode on my win2k server and in
MW TCP-less client mode on the workstations. V2 for me pulls down
MW email properly on the server machine and sends outgoing mail, but
MW the workstations never see that new mail has come in or that the
MW outboxes have gotten emptied unless I move the focus to the
MW specific folder. Rather a pain.


Ahhh. Can't confirm or deny that one. Not running in that mode.


Wish you luck.



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Re: subpattern returned by %REGEXPTEXT

2003-10-02 Thread Martin Webster
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Hello Michael,

MLC I have read the help, and looked through Gerd Ewald's regex tutorial
MLC again, but I'm afraid my head is spinning a bit. From playing with
MLC things, ISTM that %REGEXPTEXT will return subpattern 0 if that is the
MLC only one matched, and will return subpattern 1 if more than one
MLC subpattern is matched. Do I have this right now? And if I want to
MLC capture a subpattern other than 0 or 1 I will have to use
MLC %SETPATTREGEXP, %REGEXPBLINDMATCH, and %SUBPATT ?

%SETPATTREGEXP='[ |\t|\r|\n]*\?([^\]+\[EMAIL PROTECTED] \t]+\.[^ \t][^ \t]+)[ 
|\t|\r|\n]*'
%REGEXPMATCH=%TEXT
%SUBPATT=1

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Re: subpattern returned by %REGEXPTEXT

2003-10-02 Thread Martin Webster
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Hello Martin,

On 02 October 2003, 20:05 Martin Webster [MW] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

MLC I have read the help, and looked through Gerd Ewald's regex tutorial
MLC again, but I'm afraid my head is spinning a bit. From playing with
MLC things, ISTM that %REGEXPTEXT will return subpattern 0 if that is the
MLC only one matched, and will return subpattern 1 if more than one
MLC subpattern is matched. Do I have this right now? And if I want to
MLC capture a subpattern other than 0 or 1 I will have to use
MLC %SETPATTREGEXP, %REGEXPBLINDMATCH, and %SUBPATT ?

MW %SETPATTREGEXP='[ |\t|\r|\n]*\?([^\]+\[EMAIL PROTECTED] \t]+\.[^ \t][^ 
\t]+)[ |\t|\r|\n]*'
MW %REGEXPMATCH=%TEXT
MW %SUBPATT=1

Sorry. Please disregard this... finger trouble. I intended to reply to a
regexp related message on TBBETA; i.e.
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Martin Webster

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Re[2]: Delete highlights in Editor

2003-10-02 Thread Peter Kerekes
Hello Marck,
On October 1, 2003, 21:18, you wrote:

MDP Hi Peter,

MDP @1-Oct-2003, 17:04 -0400 (02-Oct 22:04 UK time) Peter Kerekes [PK]
MDP in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

PK I probably changed some setting inadvertently but cannot find
PK which one.

MDP Preferences | Editor |
MDP   Persistent blocks [Off]
MDP   Overwrite blocks  [On ]

MDP Those settings should normalise things for you.

This was it. Thank you. I have changed them for some misguided reasoning, it was
exactly the opposite.

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Re: subpattern returned by %REGEXPTEXT

2003-10-02 Thread Michael L. Cusac
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, Gerd Ewald wrote to TBUDL:

 I thought that %REGEXPTEXT captured the highest numbered subpattern,
 in this case 2, but it seems to be capturing subpattern 1.

 I'm quite sure it does.

 Try this: ^subject:\s(?:\*\*\*\sGMX\sSpamverdacht\s\*\*\*\s)?(.*?)$

 This escapes the first parentheses and it does not count as a
 subpattern

Ah.  Thanks.  Looks like I should reread your tutorial in its
entirety.

And if I want to
 capture a subpattern other than 0 or 1 I will have to use
 %SETPATTREGEXP, %REGEXPBLINDMATCH, and %SUBPATT ?

 Try
 %SETPATTREGEXP=^subject:\s(\*\*\*\sGMX\sSpamverdacht\s\*\*\*\s)?(.*?)$%-
 %REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%HEADER%-
 %SUBPATT=2

I'm happy to see that what I put in after I sent my OP was what you
recommend here.  :)

%SETPATTREGEXP=^subject:\s(\*\*\*\sGMX\sSpamverdacht\s\*\*\*\s)?(.*?)$%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%TEXT%-
%SUBPATT=2

 I hope the macro is %HEADER??

It's %TEXT.  Hamster has already extracted the original headers, and
they appear in the text body of the message that TB! has available to
examine.

 HTH

It certainly did.  Thank you!

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Re: folder templates inheritance?

2003-10-02 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Martin,

On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:41:10 +0100GMT (2-10-03, 20:41 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

MW I'd still like to know the difference between %HDR and %SETHEADER.

Well, these are the definitions of %addheader en %setheader

ADDHEADER(RFC Name,Value) add Value to a message header
SETHEADER(RFC Name,Value) macro to set a message header to the Value

Can't find any definition of hdr in the help, so I can't tell the
difference. Though your remark in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
leads me to believe that one difference is the possibility for
setheader to use dashes.

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Re[2]: Another This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting?!?

2003-10-02 Thread Dennis W. Greer
Hello Marck,

On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 02:16:02 +0100 GMT (9/30/2003, 6:16 PM +0700 GMT),
Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

snip
MDP The third explanation is that we're just a bunch power hungry
MDP megalomaniacs who love to see our admonishments hurled around the
MDP planet in the form of irate electrons. But, hey, aren't we all? At
MDP heart? I mean, c'mon fellas (and fella-ettes)!

All moderation on Bat lists is gentle and sometimes you get fish.
:)


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Re[2]: Another This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting?!?

2003-10-02 Thread Dennis W. Greer
Hello Leif,

On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 08:10:41 -0600 GMT (10/1/2003, 7:10 AM +0700 GMT),
Leif Gregory wrote:


snip

LG Alas, what Marck said also is most true... We just like to hear
LG ourselves talk. ;-)

And so we return to JFW. :)




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Re[2]: JFW [performs differently in different views

2003-10-02 Thread Pranav Lal
Hi Allen,
snip shift + ctrl + e
  or
view, Message Auto View
Ah, one of the first things I did was to uncheck auto view.

Thanks
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Re[2]: Suggestion for better message list view reading

2003-10-02 Thread Pranav Lal
Hi Allen,
snip Proper  etiquette  on  this  list  is  to have a cut line or signature
delimiter.  Your precede your signature with -- ( dot dot dash ). Most
people   on   this  list  are,  naturally,  using  The  Bat!,  and  TB
automatically  truncates  all  text from the delimiter on down.
Thanks for the explanation. I don't have a message signature so I don't 
think that I need a cut line.

Pranav


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default message sorting

2003-10-02 Thread rich gregory
How can I get TB to ALWAYS sort EVERY MESSAGE in EVERY FOLDER in CREATED DESCENDING 
order?

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