Re[2]: Scroll Wheel Problem
Hello Wayne, Friday, February 6, 2004, 1:30:19 AM, you wrote: WH Such as? I have tried all of the settings available with my mouse WH drivers and also several version of the drivers. thanks! Well, it completely depends on the driver. Tell me what settings are available for the wheel before I can suggest anything. :-) -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A greater appreciation for TB!
Hello Darrin, Friday, February 6, 2004, 7:04:53 AM, you wrote: D The only thing outlook has that I seriously like is the search D folders which is a feature I would like to see in TB one day. I didn't want to share this secret too early, but this is already in works :-) -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Scroll Wheel Problem
Hello malexander, Friday, February 6, 2004, 2:35:19 AM, you wrote: m Same here. I can't scroll in the message editor or any of the three m windows. Just doesn't work. Basically, the Universal Scroll (if it exists) setting for the wheel should work perfectly for Logitech drivers. I don't use trackballs, but I used a lot of Logitech mouses and they are my favourites for many years. This also means that I did not have problems with them for years. I'll try to find a trackball and find out what happens with it, anyway :-) -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE:A greater appreciation for TB!
Hello Stefan, Friday, February 6, 2004, 8:09:31 AM, you wrote: Friday, February 6, 2004, 7:04:53 AM, you wrote: D The only thing outlook has that I seriously like is the search D folders which is a feature I would like to see in TB one day. I didn't want to share this secret too early, but this is already in works :-) what do they do? -- Regards, Jurgen It's a woman's prerogative to change her mind. For men it's called lying. Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/53, Opera v7.23.3227 on Win.XP.5.1.2600.SP1 * PGP key available on request: send mail with subject 'PGP key request' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A greater appreciation for TB!
Hello Darrin, What are search folders or what are they good for? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scroll Wheel Problem
On Thursday, February 5, 2004, 9:26:06 PM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: What are the settings for those buttons? I have an MX500 too and those two buttons work as expected here... Just to add to the people without problems with a logitech mouse, I have a MX700, and this works almost perfectly with TB!, using version 9.79 of Mousewere. I can confirm what Bill has noted, and the cruise up/down buttons do not work in the preview pane, although the normal wheel does. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Common Folders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have a setup that I've used for a while that uses a lot of common folders. The thing is that over time the need for common folders has rather gone away and I could just as easily manage with account folders. So, to the point, are common folders and regular folders functionally equivalent and can I just move my common folders to the relevant accounts with impunity? - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/53 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.4gm PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com Error: BREAKFAST.SYS halted... Cereal port not responding. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 Comment: Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com; iQA/AwUBQCNtitttnLhkydF1EQIHzgCguP4YORLWui29h64E53VeZ/6LfPcAoOSE bbgHHGzftajhNeKCWaoge0tK =ZUls -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Scroll Wheel Problem
Hello Julian, Friday, February 6, 2004, 11:14:20 AM, you wrote: JBL Just to add to the people without problems with a logitech mouse, I JBL have a MX700, and this works almost perfectly with TB!, using version JBL 9.79 of Mousewere. I can confirm what Bill has noted, and the cruise JBL up/down buttons do not work in the preview pane, although the normal JBL wheel does. OK, I've just made a fix which seems to be effective for cruise buttons - it looks like the driver sends wheel events directly to the control (unlike standard scroll events - they are sent to the owning window and that was the problem). So, the cruise buttons should work correctly starting from 2.03 Beta/59 :-) -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Scroll Wheel Problem
Hello malexander, Friday, February 6, 2004, 2:35:19 AM, you wrote: m I don't. actually, see how it can be a rodent driver problem in any m case as my Logitech trackball exhibits normal behaviour in *every* m other application I have loaded on my hard disk. Well, I've just installed a Logitech Cordless TrackMan Wheel and could not see any problem with scrolling windows - it just behaves the same way as other wheeled devices (i.e. performs scrolling). The driver version number is 9.79... -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Common Folders
Hello shemming, So, to the point, are common folders and regular folders functionally equivalent and can I just move my common folders to the relevant accounts with impunity? Yes, just Alt+Click on it and drag it to the desired account. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Common Folders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 M Yes, just Alt+Click on it and drag it to the desired account. Cool. Thanks Miguel. - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/53 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.4gm PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com If the shoe fits, buy it - Imelda Marcos -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 Comment: Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com; iQA/AwUBQCN7C9ttnLhkydF1EQIsQgCdEs5bCRJZnUR/BimWdznnXlSm9jMAn36K IEr+nBl/XMxyJsAPm1zDl1EL =sRcf -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: A greater appreciation for TB!
Hello Jurgen, Friday, February 6, 2004, 11:30:20 AM, you wrote: JH what do they do? You'll see when they'll be ready :-) Basically, it's like the Virtual Folder provided by the MailTicker, but for more sophisticated filtering conditions (i.e. not only unread messages, but with filtering by names, other flags, etc.) and with possibility to keep them as usual folders in the tree... -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scroll Wheel Problem
Hello Stefan Thank you for your email dated Friday, February 6, 2004, 10:54:15 AM, in which you wrote: ST correctly starting from 2.03 Beta/59 :-) Do you think Mr Gates will fix a problem I've got with IE as quickly? -- Regards William http://www.residues.info Flying with The Bat! www.ritlabs.com/the_bat Windows 2000 Pro 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Scroll Wheel Problem
At 5:54 AM on 2/6/2004, Stefan Tanurkov typed ... S OK, I've just made a fix which seems to be effective for cruise S buttons - it looks like the driver sends wheel events directly to the S control (unlike standard scroll events - they are sent to the owning S window and that was the problem). So, the cruise buttons should work S correctly starting from 2.03 Beta/59 :-) I'm seriously concerned that RIT Labs is not a real software company. After receiving problem reports, a real software company (Microsoft, for example) would name a committee to look into the reports and, 3 months later, the committee's final report and recommendations would be passed on to another committee that would confer with the project manager. Within 3 months, this group would develop guidelines and standard for implementing a hot-fix, which would then be handed over to the staff programmers. Two months after that, the hot-fix would be released and it would break 4 other important functions. RIT Labs, on the other hand, receives a report and fixes the problem within 24 hours. What kind of way is this to run a company! (Now if you will excuse me, I must have someone help me extricate my tongue from my cheek, where it is firmly wedged.) -- Bill Blinn Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 2/6/2004 at 6:56 AM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Random thought: Please remain calm ... I may be mad, but I am a professional. -- Mad Scientist If not for these words, this line would be blank. Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: A greater appreciation for TB!
Hi Stefan, On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, at 09:09:31 [GMT +0200] (which was 11:09 PM my time) you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] D The only thing outlook has that I seriously like is the search D folders which is a feature I would like to see in TB one day. S I didn't want to share this secret too early, but this is already in S works :-) Oh man Im excited! Thats great! I first saw this type of feature in Operas email client, then in bloomba client. It just seems to be the way to go as far as managing email. I cant wait :) -- Darrin The Bat 2.02.3 CE --PGP Key Request-- http://www.speakeasy.org/~drich/pgp.html pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: A greater appreciation for TB!
Hi Jurgen, On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, at 10:30:20 [GMT +0100] (which was 1:30 AM my time) you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] D The only thing outlook has that I seriously like is the search D folders which is a feature I would like to see in TB one day. I didn't want to share this secret too early, but this is already in works :-) J what do they do? Heres a nice tutorial on it to see how it works. http://office.microsoft.com/training/training.aspx?AssetID=RC010778621033CTT=1Origin=EC010229981033QueryID=V_s4uTlqG They make email soo much easier to deal with. I love them :) I cant wait until the bat gets them. -- Darrin The Bat 2.02.3 CE --PGP Key Request-- http://www.speakeasy.org/~drich/pgp.html pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A greater appreciation for TB!
Hello Darrin, Oh man Im excited! Thats great! I first saw this type of feature in Operas email client, then in bloomba client. It just seems to be the way to go as far as managing email. I cant wait :) I had that functionality in my previous e-mail and new client, called Virtual Access. They implemented it some sic years ago. They called it View Tabs because you could create Tabs for the folder tree which will only show folders that included messages that met some conditions. A default tab was obviously Unread. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A greater appreciation for TB!
Hi MAU, On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, at 10:30:38 [GMT +0100] (which was 1:30 AM my time) you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] M What are search folders or what are they good for? Heres some info I copied out of the description of search folders in outlook: Think of a Search Folder as a virtual folder: It shows you messages as if they were in the folder, but the messages don't actually exist there. A Search Folder serves only as a report of search results. That is, because Search Folders are virtual, they allow you to conveniently see the messages you want to see, without messing up your filing system (or forcing you to create one). -- Darrin The Bat 2.02.3 CE --PGP Key Request-- http://www.speakeasy.org/~drich/pgp.html pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A greater appreciation for TB!
Hi Stefan, On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, at 09:09:31 [GMT +0200] (which was 11:09 PM my time) you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] S I didn't want to share this secret too early, but this is already in S works :-) Just to add another nice feature I would like to see in the works. I would like to ditch the account trees for multiple accounts. Outlook has it set up nice where when you reply to an email it automatically uses the same email address they sent the email to me from. It displays it on top just in case I want to make sure. Any Idea if something along this line is being worked on? -- Darrin The Bat 2.02.3 CE --PGP Key Request-- http://www.speakeasy.org/~drich/pgp.html pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A greater appreciation for TB!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ST Basically, it's like the Virtual Folder provided by the MailTicker, ST but for more sophisticated filtering conditions (i.e. not only unread ST messages, but with filtering by names, other flags, etc.) and with ST possibility to keep them as usual folders in the tree... Cool. - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/53 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.4gm PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com Do radioactive cats have 18 half-lives? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 Comment: Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com; iQA/AwUBQCOUk9ttnLhkydF1EQKhyACfVLzOZAsAzJ3e2pBLBzOYzOy35tEAoKOL h2+sNbfKMDACoz72qsBpIGFn =2KoT -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A greater appreciation for TB!
Hello Darrin, Outlook has it set up nice where when you reply to an email it automatically uses the same email address they sent the email to me from. It displays it on top just in case I want to make sure. Any Idea if something along this line is being worked on? You can do that in TB if in your reply template you include: %From=%OTOADDR This has been quite recently discussed in this list. One of the threads was Keeping address the same in a reply. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A greater appreciation for TB!
Hi MAU, On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, at 14:37:51 [GMT +0100] (which was 5:37 AM my time) you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] M You can do that in TB if in your reply template you include: M %From=%OTOADDR Great. Ill have to go back and review it. Thanks -- Darrin The Bat 2.02.3 CE --PGP Key Request-- http://www.speakeasy.org/~drich/pgp.html pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scroll Wheel Problem
Hello Stefan, On Friday, February 6, 2004, at 5:50:01 AM, you wrote re: Scroll Wheel Problem: ST Well, I've just installed a Logitech Cordless TrackMan Wheel and ST could ST not see any problem with scrolling windows - it just behaves the ST same ST way as other wheeled devices (i.e. performs scrolling). ST The driver version number is 9.79... Are any of you that say it is working using Windows 2000? -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 2.02.3 CE Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scroll Wheel Problem
Hello Stefan, On Friday, February 6, 2004, at 2:07:38 AM, you wrote re: Scroll Wheel Problem: ST Well, it completely depends on the driver. Tell me what settings ST are available for the wheel before I can suggest anything. :-) There are not any additional settings - only a setting for the number of lines to scroll or by page. I no longer using a Logitech mouse. I am using a Contour Perfit mouse made by Contour Designs (www.contourdesigns.com) I mentioned the Logitech Mouseman Wheel (with a cord) because it exhibited the same problem. Older versions of the Logitech Mouseware had a setting that could be changed - i.e. put it into non-MS Office mode (which worked). Later versions do not. In any case, it was a pain to switch settings just to use The Bat! -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 2.02.3 CE Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Read Filters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've got a READ filter that moves messages to a folder and it works fine if I mark as read single messages, but if I mark multiple messages it doesn't. Is this right or is it a bug? - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/53 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.4gm PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com A plateau is a high form of flattery. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 Comment: Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com; iQA/AwUBQCOqTNttnLhkydF1EQLYRQCfaVMvs3Z/5NX31AJTYhMPDV6NU2oAn0br OB1of5fWjwujYkzUQxEPpToI =XpWj -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Extracting email addres from the body
Anyone know if there's a way of extracting an email address from the body of an email and using that as the 'from' address to allow me to send the message to a 'subscribe' to an email newsletter that they want to be subscribed to. I.e: an e-commerce site sends me an email that has a load of guff about their order, icldues their email address and if they ahe ticked YES to getting a newsltter I need to send thee mail address to a different email account for the newsletter controlling programme to collect and act on. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A greater appreciation for TB!
Hello Darrin Thank you for your email dated Friday, February 6, 2004, 1:02:24 PM, in which you wrote: D I would like to ditch the account trees for multiple accounts. I wouldn't. D Any Idea if something along this line is being worked on? I sincerely hope not - unless it's optional and not the default. -- Regards William http://www.residues.info Flying with The Bat! www.ritlabs.com/the_bat Windows 2000 Pro 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Read Filters
Hello shemming, I've got a READ filter that moves messages to a folder and it works fine if I mark as read single messages, but if I mark multiple messages it doesn't. Is this right or is it a bug? I use many Read filters but I always use/used them on single messages. You are right, it doesn't work if multiple messages are selected. What I don't know is if it should work that way and it can then be considered a bug. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Extracting email addres from the body
Hello Marten, Anyone know if there's a way of extracting an email address from the body of an email and using that as the 'from' address to allow me to send the message to a 'subscribe' to an email newsletter that they want to be subscribed to. I manage several mailing lists and newsletters and I have different set-ups to achieve what you want depending on where the subscription request comes from and if the request is a form filled in on a website or just any message. For the more general case, where the e-mail address is somewhere in the body and not following a known patter like E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] where Regex could be used to automatically find the address, I do the following: - Either with Incoming or Read filters, or even moving them manually, the messages and up in a folders I call Subs. - In Subs, I have a folder template for new messages as follows: ,- [ New template in Subs ] | %From=%From=[EMAIL PROTECTED]%- | %QINCLUDE=ADNL `- ADNL is a QT as follows: ,- [ ADNL, subscribe to Newsletter ] | %Clear%- | %FROM=%FROM=%TOADDR%- | %TO=%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]%- | %SUBJECT=News%- | %Cursor `- So, what I do while viewing a message in Subs folder is to double click on the e-mail address [EMAIL PROTECTED] that I want to subscribe. This opens the editor with my address in From and [EMAIL PROTECTED] in To, and when ADNL is executed voila! [EMAIL PROTECTED] is moved to From: and To: is filled in with [EMAIL PROTECTED] and only thing I have to do is hit Send. Now, I have another approach to process information requests that come from a form in my website. Because the way the form is set up, the From address is that of the person who filled in the form. My approach is a bit different for these messages. First because I can use the From: and second because I make a distinction based on the country the person is writing from. The form includes Country: field all by itself in a line, like: Country: Spain And what I want to do is to subscribe those from Spain to a newsletter in Spanish and otherwise the the English version. What I do here is use a Read filter that, aside of moving the message to a Processed folder, includes an action (selected on the Actions tab) to generate an auto-reply using a template. This is the template: ,- [ Auto-reply template ] | %FROM=%FROM=%OFROMNAME %OFROMADDR%- | %SUBJECT=Add lead%- | %REPLYTO=%REPLYTO=%OFROMNAME %OFROMADDR%- | %IF:%REGEXPTEXT=Spain=Spain:%QINCLUDE=ADNT:%QINCLUDE=ADNL `- ADNL is shown above and ADNT is the same except that the To: will be [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hope it helps. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scroll Wheel Problem - additional observation
Hello Wayne, On Friday, February 6, 2004, at 9:43:02 AM, you wrote re: Scroll Wheel Problem: WH Hello Stefan, WH On Friday, February 6, 2004, at 2:07:38 AM, you wrote WH re: Scroll Wheel Problem: ST Well, it completely depends on the driver. Tell me what settings ST are available for the wheel before I can suggest anything. :-) WH There are not any additional settings - only a setting for the number WH of lines to scroll or by page. I no longer using a Logitech mouse. I WH am using a Contour Perfit mouse made by Contour Designs WH (www.contourdesigns.com) I mentioned the Logitech Mouseman Wheel (with WH a cord) because it exhibited the same problem. Older versions of the WH Logitech Mouseware had a setting that could be changed - i.e. put it WH into non-MS Office mode (which worked). Later versions do not. In any WH case, it was a pain to switch settings just to use The Bat! I noticed that if I change the mouse scroll properties (from one screen to a number of lines and back) and then shut down The Bat! and restart The Bat!, then the scroll works fine. It works fine until I reboot. It does not appear that there is a problem with the Contour drivers but a problem with The Bat! reading the mouse settings. -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 2.02.3 CE Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scroll Wheel Problem
Wayne- Thursday, February 5, 2004, 9:40:11 PM, you wrote: WH The problem does not occur with Microsoft mice. Unfortunately, WH Microsoft does not make any mice that fit my hand correctly. Then I fail to see why this is a TB problem. You should be on Logitech's case to fix their driver, although I'm interested in what the problem is just from a geek perspective. The point about hand-fitting is well taken. MS has their own ideas about ergonomics (and everything else). -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scroll Wheel Problem
Hello Bill, On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 07:02:25 -0500 GMT (06/02/2004, 19:02 +0700 GMT), Bill Blinn Technology Editor wrote: S OK, I've just made a fix I'm seriously concerned that RIT Labs is not a real software company. [...] RIT Labs, on the other hand, receives a report and fixes the problem within 24 hours. (Now if you will excuse me, I must have someone help me extricate my tongue from my cheek, where it is firmly wedged.) LOL! -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I tested this program in the presence of a certified child labourer, and she went crazy over it. - Wanda Sloan in a software review for an icon-generating program. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.03 Beta/51 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scroll Wheel Problem - additional observation
Hello Wayne, -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Oh my goodness! Sacrilege! Your cut mark is wrong in this message ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A greater appreciation for TB!
Hello bats, on Fri, 6. Feb 2004 at 16:30:26 + William Moore wrote: D I would like to ditch the account trees for multiple accounts. W I wouldn't. D Any Idea if something along this line is being worked on? W I sincerely hope not - unless it's optional and not the default. What would that mean? I don't get it, even not by reading Darrin's original post. -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/53 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Jan2004 (4.1.342) Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scroll Wheel Problem
Hello Mark, On Friday, February 6, 2004, at 1:22:57 PM, you wrote re: Scroll Wheel Problem: MW Then I fail to see why this is a TB problem. You should be on MW Logitech's case to fix their driver, although I'm interested in what MW the problem is just from a geek perspective. I'm no longer using a Logitech mouse - but it does have the same problem. The Bat! is the only application I use that exhibits this problem. MW The point about hand-fitting is well taken. MS has their own ideas MW about ergonomics (and everything else). And they pale in comparison to the Countour Design Perfit mouse. I have an extra-large hand. My hand cramps up and my wrist gets sore from using anything Microsoft. The distance between the thumb and index finger is too small. -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 2.02.3 CE Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Extracting email addres from the body
On Friday, February 6, 2004, 11:25:23 AM, Marten Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MG Anyone know if there's a way of extracting an email address from the MG body of an email and using that as the 'from' address to allow me to MG send the message to a 'subscribe' to an email newsletter that they MG want to be subscribed to. MG I.e: an e-commerce site sends me an email that has a load of guff MG about their order, icldues their email address and if they ahe ticked MG YES to getting a newsltter I need to send thee mail address to a MG different email account for the newsletter controlling programme to MG collect and act on. Yeah, you can do about anything if you can get past an often obscure macro language that often depends on regular expressions. Here's an example from one of my eBay confirmation templates: Original message has in the text: Buyer: johndoe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The following is part of a reply template. It extracts the email info above and puts it in the To field. %TO='%setpattregexp=(?i-s)(Buyer\: +)(.+\:)(.+)%RegExpBlindMatch=%Text%SUBPATT=3' Hope this helps - jon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A greater appreciation for TB!
Hello dAniel Thank you for your email dated Friday, February 6, 2004, 6:28:58 PM, in which you wrote: D I would like to ditch the account trees for multiple accounts. W I wouldn't. D Any Idea if something along this line is being worked on? W I sincerely hope not - unless it's optional and not the default. dh What would that mean? I don't get it, even not by reading Darrin's dh original post. Just that I would prefer to retain the account tree :-) -- Regards William http://www.residues.info Flying with The Bat! www.ritlabs.com/the_bat Windows 2000 Pro 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Read Filters
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a READ filter that moves messages to a folder and it works fine if I mark as read single messages, but if I mark multiple messages it doesn't. Is this right or is it a bug? Normally, the filter is triggered when unread messages are automatically marked as read as you read/browse them. To mark multiple messages as read would amount to a manual action and read filters aren't triggered then. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys - http://pgp.ac-martin.com Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A greater appreciation for TB!
Hello bats, on Fri, 6. Feb 2004 at 19:10:59 + William Moore wrote: D I would like to ditch the account trees for multiple accounts. W I wouldn't. D Any Idea if something along this line is being worked on? W I sincerely hope not - unless it's optional and not the default. dh What would that mean? I don't get it, even not by reading Darrin's dh original post. W Just that I would prefer to retain the account tree :-) Instead of what, exactly? :) -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/53 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Jan2004 (4.1.342) Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scroll Wheel Problem
Hello Mark, On Friday, February 6, 2004, at 1:22:57 PM, you wrote re: Scroll Wheel Problem: MW Wayne- MW Thursday, February 5, 2004, 9:40:11 PM, you wrote: WH The problem does not occur with Microsoft mice. Unfortunately, WH Microsoft does not make any mice that fit my hand correctly. MW Then I fail to see why this is a TB problem. You should be on MW Logitech's case to fix their driver, although I'm interested in what MW the problem is just from a geek perspective. Further thought. No that this is being seen in mice of at least two different brands of mice/drivers, why would you think that it is a driver problem? It seems like it's the other way around. It seems like TB was only designed to work with Microsoft mice. I think that the problem lies in the way in which TB is detecting the mouse settings while the system is booting (I have TB set to load automatically). As I said in my last reply, if I change the mouse settings and then shutdown and reopen The Bat!, it seems to at least partially recognize the scroll settings. It's still not scrolling a screen at a time when it does work. Sometimes it is more than a screen. MW The point about hand-fitting is well taken. MS has their own ideas MW about ergonomics (and everything else). I think I misunderstood what you said here in my last reply. Sorry. -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 2.02.3 CE Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A greater appreciation for TB!
Hi dAniel hAhler, On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 20:27:45 +0100 dAniel hAhler wrote: D I would like to ditch the account trees for multiple accounts. W I wouldn't. D Any Idea if something along this line is being worked on? W I sincerely hope not - unless it's optional and not the default. dh What would that mean? I don't get it, even not by reading Darrin's dh original post. W Just that I would prefer to retain the account tree :-) Instead of what, exactly? :) Instead of Outlook's approach of no distinction between accounts in the folder tree. Compare how TB has each account as the root level in the folder tree and how Outlook does not have the accounts in the folder tree -- in Outlook all folders are common folders. -- Dave Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Read Filters
Hello Allie, Normally, the filter is triggered when unread messages are automatically marked as read as you read/browse them. To mark multiple messages as read would amount to a manual action and read filters aren't triggered then. I mark my messages as read manually, by hitting Space when I decide I _have_ read them. That is a manual action, isn't it? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scroll Wheel Problem - I may have figured it out!
Hello Wayne, On Friday, February 6, 2004, at 2:29:06 PM, you wrote re: Scroll Wheel Problem: I may have figured it out! TB does not seem to like the setting of Scroll one screen at a time with non-microsoft mice. That is the setting I always use. For those of you who say that scrolling works for your Logitech, do you have it set to do a whole page at a time? If not, please try that setting and report back. A whole page at a time is supposed to have a value of -1. It appears that TB does not know what to do with this setting. If I set it to a specific number of lines, it seems to work. -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 2.02.3 CE Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Importing older backed-up TB messages
Greetings, all: I've been away from the Bat for some time now and would like to renew acquaintance. Here's a simple chore I need to complete, and I hope somebody can advise me. I would like to load (to the Inbox and other folders) some mail I have backed up (and copied elsewhere) from the Bat over recent years. I know enough to have the inbox empty when I do that. Please tell me what to expect when I try to Import these older Bat messages. Seems to me there was a dialogue box that appears, one that I found somewhat confusing when I last tried this. With sincere thanks, in advance. David Austen Ver 1.62i Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Scroll Wheel Problem
Hello Stefan, Friday, February 6, 2004, 7:34:30 AM, you wrote: ST Hello malexander, ST Friday, February 6, 2004, 2:35:19 AM, you wrote: m Same here. I can't scroll in the message editor or any of the three m windows. Just doesn't work. ST Basically, the Universal Scroll (if it exists) setting for the wheel ST should work perfectly for Logitech drivers. I don't use trackballs, ST but I used a lot of Logitech mouses and they are my favourites for ST many years. This also means that I did not have problems with them for ST years. ST I'll try to find a trackball and find out what happens with it, anyway ST :-) Thanks. I really don't see why this should be a problem, but it is. -- Best regards, Mike Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Scroll Wheel Problem
Hello Stefan, Friday, February 6, 2004, 10:50:01 AM, you wrote: ST Hello malexander, ST Friday, February 6, 2004, 2:35:19 AM, you wrote: m I don't. actually, see how it can be a rodent driver problem in any m case as my Logitech trackball exhibits normal behaviour in *every* m other application I have loaded on my hard disk. ST Well, I've just installed a Logitech Cordless TrackMan Wheel and could ST not see any problem with scrolling windows - it just behaves the same ST way as other wheeled devices (i.e. performs scrolling). ST The driver version number is 9.79... Right. Well, I've got v. 9.76, so I'll try 9.79 and see what happens. To be honest, I'm not hopeful as this has happened with all the previous version of the driver as well. -- Best regards, Mike Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Scroll Wheel Problem
Hello William, Friday, February 6, 2004, 12:01:43 PM, you wrote: WM Hello Stefan WM Thank you for your email dated Friday, February 6, 2004, 10:54:15 AM, WM in which you wrote: ST correctly starting from 2.03 Beta/59 :-) WM Do you think Mr Gates will fix a problem I've got with IE as quickly? If you don't like IE, but need to use the IE engine, try Avant Browser. It's streets ahead of IE, but hooks into the underlying engine. And it's free. :) www.avantbrowser.com -- Best regards, Mike Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Scroll Wheel Problem - I may have figured it out!
Hello Wayne, Friday, February 6, 2004, 7:41:26 PM, you wrote: WH Hello Wayne, WH On Friday, February 6, 2004, at 2:29:06 PM, you wrote WH re: Scroll Wheel Problem: WH I may have figured it out! TB does not seem to like the setting of WH Scroll one screen at a time with non-microsoft mice. That is the WH setting I always use. WH For those of you who say that scrolling works for your Logitech, do WH you have it set to do a whole page at a time? If not, please try that WH setting and report back. WH A whole page at a time is supposed to have a value of -1. It appears WH that TB does not know what to do with this setting. If I set it to a WH specific number of lines, it seems to work. Yes, I think you've solved the problem. I hope Stefan is reading this. I switched my trackball to 6 line scroll (the only option other than screen, or none) and it works. The interesting thing is that it now scrolls a whole screen *not* 6 lines. You are absolutely correct - this is a problem with how TB reads the mouse driver output. If I switch back to screen, TB stops scrolling again. However, I can't leave it in 6 line mode, because then it only scrolls 6 lines in every other app, which is not what I want. -- Best regards, Mike Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scroll Wheel Problem
Hello malexander Thank you for your email dated Friday, February 6, 2004, 8:09:57 PM, in which you wrote: WM Do you think Mr Gates will fix a problem I've got with IE as quickly? m If you don't like IE,... I was being facetious. Or trying to be. -- Regards William http://www.residues.info Flying with The Bat! www.ritlabs.com/the_bat Windows 2000 Pro 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Help for a new user
Hello Everyone! A new user of The Bat!, who has had an evaluation copy for 6 days, has been writing to me for help, because I recommended it as the best e-mail program on Rootsweb's Computers-L. I ran into problems I couldn't solve for her and recommended tbudl. She has tried to post to the list--after encouragement from me--and her very first post was returned, with a subsequent post to me at tbudl being sent to me by [EMAIL PROTECTED] It said: The message's content type was not explicitly allowed So I wrote to her and asked if she would like me to try to get her questions answered. She said, in part (begin copy-and-paste): __ Hi Mary, If you can get answers then please do so. I really like lots of things about the Bat but some things I don't understand or maybe the 'Bat just does not do what I want. Otherwise I will go back to Eudora or Pegagus. Thanks, Kay -- Regards, kGSno ___ end copy-and-paste Kay wants to know (here is an exact copy-and-paste of her declined post): ___ This is the 6th day I've used the Bat. I don't understand much tech stuff. Some of the things I need to do and can't figure out are: 1.Select and copy a message or a part thereof, and paste in my word processor, MS Word. 2. Copy an email address from this list and paste it in a new message. 3. When I receive a picture in email, when I forward that email why doesn't the picture(s) show up in my forwarded message? 4. This day I tried to print a message and never could get it printed. 5. I do not understand when I get a message without an attachment, there is a tab for html and a tab for text, is there a way to stop that from happening. I am not a happy camper, I get too much mail to have to spend most of my day trying to do what needs doing. Kay __ end copy and paste If anyone here can help her with any of her 5 queries, she's still subscribed here, and both of us would be grateful for your answers. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A greater appreciation for TB!
Hello dAniel Thank you for your email dated Friday, February 6, 2004, 7:27:45 PM, in which you wrote: dh on Fri, 6. Feb 2004 at 19:10:59 + William Moore wrote: D I would like to ditch the account trees for multiple accounts. W I wouldn't. D Any Idea if something along this line is being worked on? W I sincerely hope not - unless it's optional and not the default. dh What would that mean? I don't get it, even not by reading Darrin's dh original post. W Just that I would prefer to retain the account tree :-) dh Instead of what, exactly? :) Instead of 'ditching' it, as was being proposed. -- Regards William http://www.residues.info Flying with The Bat! www.ritlabs.com/the_bat Windows 2000 Pro 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Scroll Wheel Problem
Hello William, Friday, February 6, 2004, 8:30:06 PM, you wrote: WM Hello malexander WM Thank you for your email dated Friday, February 6, 2004, 8:09:57 PM, WM in which you wrote: WM Do you think Mr Gates will fix a problem I've got with IE as quickly? m If you don't like IE,... WM I was being facetious. Or trying to be. I realise. I was trying to be helpful :) -- Best regards, Mike Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scroll Wheel Problem
Wayne- Friday, February 6, 2004, 11:29:06 AM, you wrote: WH partially recognize the scroll settings. It's still not scrolling a WH screen at a time when it does work. Sometimes it is more than a WH screen. Stefan replied that he thinks he's solved the problem - the mouse driver apparently sends a non-standard message from the scroll wheel, and he's accomodating in in the next release. WH I think I misunderstood what you said here in my last reply. Sorry. g Meanwhile, I'm here staring at a MS ergonomic keyboard that was recommended by a client and trying to get my hands into MS's version of how I *should* be typing. My typing speed has slowed down considerably and my typos-per-minute rate has gone way up. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help for a new user
Dear Kay, @6-Feb-2004, 14:31 -0600 (06-Feb 20:31 UK time) Mary R Bull [MB] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: MB 1.Select and copy a message or a part thereof, and paste in my MB word processor, MS Word. Mark a block (or select all text with Ctrl-A), right click, Choose 'Copy', switch to Word, Paste. MB 2. Copy an email address from this list and paste it in a new MB message. Ooooh - so many ways! Right click on any marked text to copy it. Press Ctrl-C on any marked text to copy it. Right click on any destination point and choose paste. Click to any destination point and press Ctrl-V to paste. Click on any underlined address in a message body to start a new message to that address. Right click on any address in a message heading block or message body and choose one of the New message to this address or Reply to this address or even Add this address to the address book. Of course - all of these options apply to *real* email messages. HTML pages masquerading as email are a very grey area. Some of these options may not work in so called HTML mail. MB 3. When I receive a picture in email, when I forward that email MB why doesn't the picture(s) show up in my forwarded message? Hmm - that's one that needs a bit of sorting out. It's about the difference between the way TB sends HTML messages and how it shows them. Since there is no real standard for doing this, you should really be separating out the picture and composing the message again using TB's HTML message formatting editor and pasting the picture(s) back in there. I do think RITlabs need to look into this though. MB 4. This day I tried to print a message and never could get it MB printed. Again, this may be about HTML messages. Text message printing has always been a fundamental go-go thang. I did thing HTML printing worked too. But, hey, I don't deal in HTML mail and people who write to me *know* that! :-). MB 5. I do not understand when I get a message without an MB attachment, there is a tab for html and a tab for text, is MB there a way to stop that from happening. Yes. Tell people not to write bandwidth-hogging HTML versions of a plain text message when they mail you! Seriously, the email standard is plain text ASCII messages. Microsoft and a couple of others thought it would be cute to let people put their email into an HTML page and send that as an attachment and signal a custom type in the message header to pick it up at the receiving end and display it as (hey presto!) fake formatted mail. TB has added support for this but allows real mail users to retain the foothold of true ASCII email for genuine communication. Microsoft has always been fond of keeping things hidden. That doesn't mean they're not there. TB fails to pull the wool over your eyes on this one. I'm personally thankful for that. MB I am not a happy camper, I get too much mail to have to spend MB most of my day trying to do what needs doing. Forgive me if this sounds disparaging in any way - it's not meant to be. It seems to me that your dependency on HTML mail may prevent you making full use of the realm of safety and automation features that are suddenly in your reach as a TB user. Indeed, too much mail is a good clue that TB has actually got some huge benefits to offer, but it's not going to be able to match MS offerings when it comes to HTML messaging and hiding things it doesn't want you to know about. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.03 Beta/53 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scroll Wheel Problem - I may have figured it out!
Hello malexander, On Friday, February 6, 2004, at 3:18:54 PM, you wrote re: Scroll Wheel Problem - I may have figured it out!: m Yes, I think you've solved the problem. I hope Stefan is reading m this. I switched my trackball to 6 line scroll (the only option m other than screen, or none) and it works. The interesting thing is m that it now scrolls a whole screen *not* 6 lines. You are absolutely m correct - this is a problem with how TB reads the mouse driver output. m If I switch back to screen, TB stops scrolling again. m However, I can't leave it in 6 line mode, because then it only scrolls m 6 lines in every other app, which is not what I want. This HAS to be it. I just received this reply from a developer who fixed a similar problem in another application for me (and other users) about 2 years ago: (I have documented all of this in bug report # 0002480): Do you have your wheel set to scroll a page at a time? If that's the case then the _only_ idea I've had was that maybe I originally wasn't handling the case properly when the system scroll lines setting (obtained by calling SystemParametersInfo(SPI_GETWHEELSCROLLLINES,...)) returns -1. I have a vague memory that I didn't know about this behaviour originally and thought that SPI_GETWHEELSCROLLLINES would always return a whole number of lines to scroll. If it returns -1 you are meant to treat each scroll message as moving a whole page in either direction -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 2.02.3 CE Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help for a new user
Hello Mary, On 6 Feb 2004 at 14:31:58 -0600 GMT [21:31 CET] you wrote: MRB Hello Everyone! MRB A new user of The Bat!, who has had an evaluation copy for 6 days, has MRB been writing to me for help, because I recommended it as the best MRB e-mail program on Rootsweb's Computers-L. Good Mary :) MRB Kay wants to know (here is an exact copy-and-paste of her declined MRB post): MRB ___ MRB This is the 6th day I've used the Bat. I don't understand much tech stuff. MRB Some of the things I need to do and can't figure out are: MRB 1.Select and copy a message or a part thereof, and paste in my word MRB processor, MS Word. If Word is anything like other word processors, just select some text, hit ctrl-c and paste into word via ctrl-v. Or use the copy and paste menu items. MRB 2. Copy an email address from this list and paste it in a new MRB message. Same way. you can also click at one and a new message addressed to that address will be created. Or you can right-click on an address and select 'Write a message to this address' (if that's what you want). MRB 3. When I receive a picture in email, when I forward that email why MRB doesn't the picture(s) show up in my forwarded message? I don't know. It should. Are you expecting it to be inline? It should be an attachment. MRB 4. This day I tried to print a message and never could get it printed. No idea. Printing has always worked for. Not that I use it that often. MRB 5. I do not understand when I get a message without an attachment, MRB there is a tab for html and a tab for text, is there a way to stop MRB that from happening. There probably is an attachment. Most html messages come with a plain text and a html part, the html part being an attachment. The tabs are there to allow easy switching between both parts. You can tell the bat! that you only want one of the parts displayed or which of the parts as default. Go to options - Viewer/Editor - Display html messages using/ Display messages with alternative layout.. and choose what ever suits you. MRB I am not a happy camper, I get too much mail to have to spend most of MRB my day trying to do what needs doing. Kay There are always problems when starting to use a new program. some things may work different than you are used to. Maybe they work better, maybe just in a different way. Anyway, we will happily try to help you. Don't give up on tb! yet. It's really a great program. MRB __ MRB end copy and paste MRB If anyone here can help her with any of her 5 queries, she's still MRB subscribed here, and both of us would be grateful for your answers. Well, at least I tried :) -- Cheers, Andre I am so clever, sometimes I don't understand a word of what I'm saying. Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scroll Wheel Problem
Hello Mark, On Friday, February 6, 2004, at 3:52:34 PM, you wrote re: Scroll Wheel Problem: MW Wayne- MW Friday, February 6, 2004, 11:29:06 AM, you wrote: WH partially recognize the scroll settings. It's still not scrolling a WH screen at a time when it does work. Sometimes it is more than a WH screen. MW Stefan replied that he thinks he's solved the problem - the mouse MW driver apparently sends a non-standard message from the scroll wheel, MW and he's accomodating in in the next release. See my last message... I think several of us have come to the same conclusion at the same time! This is great news!!! WH I think I misunderstood what you said here in my last reply. Sorry. MW g Meanwhile, I'm here staring at a MS ergonomic keyboard that was MW recommended by a client and trying to get my hands into MS's version MW of how I *should* be typing. My typing speed has slowed down MW considerably and my typos-per-minute rate has gone way up. I have used them for several years! They're great, but it does take a few days to get used to it. Now, I find standard keyboards awkward! The only downside is that it the split angle is set. I am now using a Kinesis Maxim which allows you to vary this angle. I need it wider than what Microsoft sets it to. Thanks everyone for your all of your help in discovering what was causing this! -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 2.02.3 CE Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help for a new user
Hello Andre! On Friday, February 06, 2004, 3:21 PM, you wrote, in part: MRB If anyone here can help her with any of her 5 queries, she's still MRB subscribed here, and both of us would be grateful for your answers. AW Well, at least I tried :) :) And I'm sure it's going to help! I hope you and Marck will both hear from her on List soon. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help for a new user
Hello Marck! On Friday, February 06, 2004, 3:08 PM, you wrote, in part: MDP Dear Kay, MDP @6-Feb-2004, 14:31 -0600 (06-Feb 20:31 UK time) Mary R Bull [MB] in MDP mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: snip To me, the old hand here, this reply sounds like it's just exactly the help that's needed. Thank you so much. I wrote to Kay, encouraging her to post a Reply to you. (This was before I saw Andre's Post, also offering help, or I would have also mentioned him to her.) If she has any more difficulty with her posts being accepted, of course I'll let you know. Meanwhile, many, many thanks. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scroll Wheel Problem
Hello malexander Thank you for your email dated Friday, February 6, 2004, 8:36:10 PM, in which you wrote: m I realise. I was trying to be helpful :) Ah! Sometimes it's difficult to know :-) I did take notice of your suggestion but I'm using MyIE2, and very good it is too! -- Regards William http://www.residues.info Flying with The Bat! www.ritlabs.com/the_bat Windows 2000 Pro 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
digest mode problem
Bats- I'm having interesting symptoms today: my digest mode messages are arriving out of sequence. TBUDL digest vol 183 issue 18 arrived three hours after issue 19. Makes for quite a disjointed reading experience. I checked the sending time, so it's not just me. Weird. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Help for a new user
Hi Marck and Andre, Thanks for the help, and the quick replies. I'm so new to using the Bat, I'm still very green. Been used to doing things one way for a long time. Guess it's time the learn something new. Mary, thank you also, you are a great promoter for this program. And I do appreciate all you help. Friday, February 6, 2004, 3:08:37 PM, your message was: MB 2. Copy an email address from this list and paste it in a new MB message. MDP Ooooh - so many ways! MDP Right click on any marked text to copy it. MDP Press Ctrl-C on any marked text to copy it. MDP Right click on any destination point and choose paste. MDP Click to any destination point and press Ctrl-V to paste. MDP Click on any underlined address in a message body to start a new MDP message to that address. MDP Right click on any address in a message heading block or message MDP body and choose one of the New message to this address or Reply MDP to this address or even Add this address to the address book. MDP Of course - all of these options apply to *real* email messages. MDP HTML pages masquerading as email are a very grey area. Some of these MDP options may not work in so called HTML mail. Thanks much, I needed these instructions. MB 3. When I receive a picture in email, when I forward that email MB why doesn't the picture(s) show up in my forwarded message? MDP Hmm - that's one that needs a bit of sorting out. It's about the MDP difference between the way TB sends HTML messages and how it shows MDP them. Since there is no real standard for doing this, you should MDP really be separating out the picture and composing the message again MDP using TB's HTML message formatting editor and pasting the picture(s) MDP back in there. I do think RITlabs need to look into this though. Okay, this I can work around for awhile. MB 4. This day I tried to print a message and never could get it MB printed. MDP Again, this may be about HTML messages. Text message printing has MDP always been a fundamental go-go thang. I did thing HTML printing MDP worked too. But, hey, I don't deal in HTML mail and people who write MDP to me *know* that! :-). No. 4, I get my stupid sign for today. Worked to late last pm/am and thought I was turning the printer on, only it was already on. MB 5. I do not understand when I get a message without an MB attachment, there is a tab for html and a tab for text, is MB there a way to stop that from happening. MDP Yes. Tell people not to write bandwidth-hogging HTML versions of a MDP plain text message when they mail you! I can live with this also. snip MDP Forgive me if this sounds disparaging in any way - it's not meant to MDP be. It seems to me that your dependency on HTML mail may prevent you MDP making full use of the realm of safety and automation features that MDP are suddenly in your reach as a TB user. Indeed, too much mail is MDP a good clue that TB has actually got some huge benefits to offer, MDP but it's not going to be able to match MS offerings when it comes to MDP HTML messaging and hiding things it doesn't want you to know about. -- My Best Regards, kGSnomailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Read Filters
Mau, [M] wrote: M I mark my messages as read manually, by hitting Space when I decide I M _have_ read them. That is a manual action, isn't it? AFAIK, the shortcut to mark a message read is CTRL-M. What does hitting space do for you? Move to another message? -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Using TB! v2.03 Beta/59 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help for a new user
Hello Mary R Bull, on Fri, 6 Feb 2004 14:31:58 -0600 (2004-02-06 21:31:58 in .nl) in the message with reference mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you [MB] wrote (at least in part): MRB 1.Select and copy a message or a part thereof, and paste in my word MRB processor, MS Word. Using the 'standard' Windows actions: - select (shift+arrow for instance) - copy (Edit | Copy or Ctrl+C) - paste (probably Edit | Paste or Ctrl+V) (based on my plain-text usage of email) MRB 2. Copy an email address from this list and paste it in a new MRB message. Copy and paste is from the mail headers as (by default) shown in the message preview pane. Or do I misunderstand the question? MRB 3. When I receive a picture in email, when I forward that email why MRB doesn't the picture(s) show up in my forwarded message? Pass, dunno if HTML msgs with embedded pictures received by TB are forwarded correctly. MRB 4. This day I tried to print a message and never could get it printed. Has a printer been configured correctly in TB (Message | Print setup) ? MRB 5. I do not understand when I get a message without an attachment, MRB there is a tab for html and a tab for text, is there a way to stop MRB that from happening. Try setting in Options Preferences | Viewer/Editor, especially for the non-plain-text ones. Does that help? -- Kind regards, Peter Ouwehand E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - Created the above using A program which insists to be : The Bat! V2.03 Beta/53 An OS which insists to be : Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help for a new user
Hello Peter! On Friday, February 06, 2004, 2:48 PM, you wrote, in regard to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], in part: PO Does that help? I'll let Kay reply to the help part, herself. :) But for myself, thank you so much, your answers are clear and easy to understand, and it's most gratifying to me to have my promises to Kay about how she would be welcomed and helped here coming true. Thanks for writing. :) (For some reason, your post was late showing on my machine, compared to its creation time. I've had more mail delays than usual over the past few days--hope that doesn't continue much longer. Anyway, I thank you with all my heart for this message.) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Scroll Wheel Problem - I may have figured it out!
Hello Wayne, Friday, February 6, 2004, 9:22:01 PM, you wrote: m However, I can't leave it in 6 line mode, because then it only scrolls m 6 lines in every other app, which is not what I want. WH This HAS to be it. I just received this reply from a developer who WH fixed a similar problem in another application for me (and other WH users) about 2 years ago: (I have documented all of this in bug report WH # 0002480): snip Interesting. And I have further info. The Trackman allows you to set a button press on the wheel to do something, like launch Explorer for example. It also allows you to set Universal scroll. With this feature on I can get a normal scroll (line by line) in the TB, but, again, switching to screen kills scrolling altogether. So, I hope Stefan has dealt with the problem by handling the -1 return. If not, we're still not getting anywhere... -- Best regards, Mike Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Scroll Wheel Problem
Hello Mark, Friday, February 6, 2004, 8:52:34 PM, you wrote: MW Wayne- MW g Meanwhile, I'm here staring at a MS ergonomic keyboard that was MW recommended by a client and trying to get my hands into MS's version MW of how I *should* be typing. My typing speed has slowed down MW considerably and my typos-per-minute rate has gone way up. Totally OT, but I've had (still have actually - all working) three of those keyboards over the last few years and I wouldn't use anything else. They take a while to learn, but it's worth it. So much less stress on your hands :) -- Best regards, Mike Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Help for a new user
Hello Mary R Bull, on Fri, 6 Feb 2004 18:07:23 -0600 (2004-02-07 01:07:23 in .nl) in the message with reference mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you [MB] wrote (at least in part): MRB I'll let Kay reply to the help part, herself. :) But for myself, MRB thank you so much, your answers are clear and easy to understand, and MRB it's most gratifying to me to have my promises to Kay about how she MRB would be welcomed and helped here coming true. Thanks for writing. :) You'r welcome. MRB (For some reason, your post was late showing on my machine, compared MRB to its creation time. I've had more mail delays than usual over the MRB past few days--hope that doesn't continue much longer. Anyway, I thank MRB you with all my heart for this message.) That's because of the remainders of a 'backbone problems' my ISP had earlier today (mmm... most of the day). The email sat on their server for about 3 hours... Oh well, s*** happens (how long will this one take). -- Kind regards, Peter Ouwehand E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - Created the above using A program which insists to be : The Bat! V2.03 Beta/59 An OS which insists to be : Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Read Filters
Hello Allie, AFAIK, the shortcut to mark a message read is CTRL-M. Not in my TB :) What does hitting space do for you? Move to another message? No, Space marks as read and Enter moves to next unread. Remember what Al+F2 does? It opens the shortcut editor :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: digest mode problem
Hallo Mark, On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 15:08:10 -0800GMT (7-2-04, 0:08 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MW I'm having interesting symptoms today: my digest mode messages are MW arriving out of sequence. TBUDL digest vol 183 issue 18 arrived three MW hours after issue 19. Makes for quite a disjointed reading experience. MW I checked the sending time, so it's not just me. Weird. That's really weird, since they arrived here in the good order (creation time matches with reception time), so it could be just you. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Read Filters
Hello MAU, on Sat, 7 Feb 2004 01:56:32 +0100 (2004-02-07 01:56:32 in .nl) in the message with reference mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you [] wrote (at least in part): M Remember what Al+F2 does? It opens the shortcut editor :-) I don't 'remember' what yours does, but here it does a 'Check Mail For All'. Messed up shortcuts maybe..?? -- Kind regards, Peter Ouwehand E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - Created the above using A program which insists to be : The Bat! V2.03 Beta/59 An OS which insists to be : Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help for a new user
MRB 1.Select and copy a message or a part thereof, and paste in my word MRB processor, MS Word. Select (=higjlight) the text, Control-C to copy, open Word, Control-V to paste. MRB 2. Copy an email address from this list and paste it in a new MRB message. a. If you wish to reply to the sender, Right-click on the message line and left-click on Reply. Or b. F9 to show full details of message, select the from address, Control-C to copy, Control-V to paste wherever you wish. Have left the other questions for the experts. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 98 4.10 Build A ...Hardware: The parts of a computer system that can be kicked. Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scroll Wheel Problem - I may have figured it out!
Wayne- Sounds like the problem is nailed, but I'm with that developer on this one: I would assume that a -1 returned from a number-of-lines API call would mean an error condition occurred. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Read Filters
Hello Peter, M Remember what Al+F2 does? It opens the shortcut editor :-) I don't 'remember' what yours does, but here it does a 'Check Mail For All'. Messed up shortcuts maybe..?? Oooops! I meant to type Alt+F12, Alt+F12. Sorry -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp PLAYING: Norman Brown - The Feeling I Get (Smoothjazz.com - The world's best Smooth Jazz - Live from Monterey, Calif.) Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: digest mode problem
Hello Mark Wieder, on Fri, 6 Feb 2004 15:08:10 -0800 (2004-02-07 00:08:10 in .nl) in the message with reference mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you [MW] wrote (at least in part): MW I'm having interesting symptoms today: my digest mode messages are MW arriving out of sequence. TBUDL digest vol 183 issue 18 arrived three MW hours after issue 19. Makes for quite a disjointed reading experience. MW I checked the sending time, so it's not just me. Weird. Checking the mail headers may reveal the problem. Did you check them? -- Kind regards, Peter Ouwehand E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - Created the above using A program which insists to be : The Bat! V2.03 Beta/59 An OS which insists to be : Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A greater appreciation for TB!
Hello bats, on Fri, 6. Feb 2004 at 20:35:07 + William Moore wrote: dh What would that mean? I don't get it, even not by reading Darrin's dh original post. W Just that I would prefer to retain the account tree :-) dh Instead of what, exactly? :) W Instead of 'ditching' it, as was being proposed. Did not understand what ditching could mean, as my dictionary is not clear on this. I thank Dave for explaining that.. :) -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/53 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Jan2004 (4.1.342) Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Scroll Wheel Problem - I may have figured it out!
Hello Mark Wieder, on Fri, 6 Feb 2004 17:49:06 -0800 (2004-02-07 02:49:06 in .nl) in the message with reference mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you [MW] wrote (at least in part): MW Wayne- MW Sounds like the problem is nailed, but I'm with that developer on this MW one: I would assume that a -1 returned from a number-of-lines API call MW would mean an error condition occurred. Sure, -1 is 'in general' accepted to represent some error condition (which one: depends). Probably some unintended 'folder template' was used. I don't mind, carry on ;) -- Kind regards, Peter Ouwehand E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - Created the above using A program which insists to be : The Bat! V2.03 Beta/59 An OS which insists to be : Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Read Filters
Hello MAU, on Sat, 7 Feb 2004 02:59:09 +0100 (2004-02-07 02:59:09 in .nl) in the message with reference mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you [] wrote (at least in part): Messed up shortcuts maybe..?? M Oooops! I meant to type Alt+F12, Alt+F12. Sorry Ok, so it does here. But somehow I can't seem to link your ALT-Fnn to the msg thread. Am I missing something ?? (after having quite a few bottles of Dommelsch?? Ya, that's a brand of beer ;), enough available for you, once you decide to move your a** to consume them ... ) -- Kind regards, Peter Ouwehand E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - Created the above using A program which insists to be : The Bat! V2.03 Beta/59 An OS which insists to be : Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Read Filters
Hello bats, on Fri, 6. Feb 2004 at 17:30:57 +0100 MAU wrote: M I use many Read filters but I always use/used them on single messages. M You are right, it doesn't work if multiple messages are selected. What I M don't know is if it should work that way and it can then be considered a M bug. /me thinks, that it should work with multiple messages - of course, because it's just a manual triggered action to mark more messages and hit ctrl-M (on marked messages or a whole folder). I have no Read Messages filter yet, but I would expect this behaviour.. ergo: bug.. :) -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/53 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Jan2004 (4.1.342) Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
