Re: Why should I use PGP ?
Hi Cyrille, On Friday, May 28, 2004, at 2:51:07 AM PST, you wrote: > Why should I use PGP ? I just noticed your message sitting here unanswered for a few days, so perhaps I can mention a few reasons why you might want to use PGP (though PGP integration is a part of The Bat!, if we go too much into purely PGP issues, perhaps we could move this to the OT list). Anyway...here are a few reasons you might want to use PGP... 1) To protect your privacy via email, and in doing so, also protect the privacy of your correspondents. Basically, encryption allows you to put your email in an envelope rather than on a postcard. It's kind of amazing what people will put on an "email postcard", though they wouldn't dare put such things on a postcard to send through the post. 2) To give your email and document recipients a way to verify if messages, documents, and other files are really from you, and to also let them know if your signed documents or files have been altered or not since you signed them. 3) To use PGPdisk, or some other disk volume encryption tool to protect various local databases, programs, etc. PGP, GnuPG, and various disk volume encryption tools can go a long way in protecting our privacy in a digital environment that is, by default, extremely insecure. -- Melissa PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]&Body=Please%20send%20keys TB! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgpAvCPWURbSH.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Chat folder HOWTO ?)
On Monday, May 31, 2004, 6:33:23 AM, you wrote: > Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your > message and following it with all quoted text below, is not > encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list > because Got it. (blush) Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Chat folder HOWTO ?
You're 100% right. My thoughts was away .. :-) Thank you. On Monday, May 31, 2004, 1:10:19 AM, you wrote: > the new mail chat facility and the related chat folder is 100% a > beta topic Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fake bounce
On Sunday, May 30, 2004, 11:16 AM, you wrote: j> If it "takes the reply" then you have to wait for it, no? Nevertheless, my j> primary point is that using Spamcop is more time consuming that simply deleting j> email off the server based on viewing the header (ala Mailwasher) and that (IMO) j> any reduction of spam due to the use of Spamcop service is probably j> insignificant. yes, you have to wait for the reply to come in. more time consuming that deleting from the server?? I'm not sure, since I don't have mailwasher, and I can't compare times:) as to reduction in spam, maybe not, BUT IT FEELS GOOD to send it to spamcop :D -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/9 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Apr2004 (4.1.396) (avast! version number) 0422-1 (27.05.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.396 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re: Is there a way to format date & time display of created/received column?
>From Roelof Otten (Mon, May 31, 2004 at 12:12:47AM +0200): > AT> I am a new user of SecureBat! Lite v. 2.10.02. Is there a way to > AT> format the date and time display of the created and received column? > > Options -> Preferences -> Messages -> Date/Time display > That's how it's called at TB 2.10.03, I'd guess that SB 2.10.02 won't > differ very much. Thanks very much Roelof. That was the answer! Regards, Arthur Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automating backup?
Hello Thomas, Sunday, May 16, 2004, 4:17:01 AM, Thomas Andersson wrote: TA> Is there a way to use the Windows scheduler or make TA> The Bat! perform a backup every time I exit the program? Yes is the short answer. The batch file below will create a rotating grandfather, father, and son backup. You may want to copy one set of the backup files (i.e. program & mail base either in zip or 7z format) to another name to create a base line set of files. So here is what I did. 1) Need a compression utility with command line capability. I used 7-Zip, http://www.7-zip.org/, other have used WinRar. 7-Zip is a FREE compression utility. I've test it successfully many times. It has saved my bacon sort to speak a few times. 2) Placed copy of the backup batch file in program directory. It is important to understand this backup batch file backs up all 3 critical areas of TB which are the program directory, the mail directory, and RIT registry in windows. Depending upon what OS you are using (i.e. NT version) you may have to provide additional rights to the user to facilitate backing up ALL 3 critical areas. I use 2 types of users on WinXP Pro which are admin and limited user belonging to power user group. See the batch file below. 3) Create a shortcut to a batch file which starts TB and the backup batch file created in #2 above. It is important that in the shortcut properties in "start in" you put the program directory of TB otherwise TB will run concurrently with the backup. You don't want the backup to start until you exit which the "start in" issue clears up. See the batch file below. Thanks to Marck I've made some changes to his batch file to coincide with my configuration of having my TB program and mail base on separate partitions/drives. I should also state there were some other nuances in Marck's batch file that did not work for me. This maybe how my PC's configured or who knows (ie. my mistake?). I believe Lief also provided some help on programs running concurrently. IIRC Marck's batch creates a base line grandfather which does NOT change. I didn't like this logic because I wanted the rotating version of the grandfather/father/son backup. In response to Marck I should also comment up front that I use the "7z" compression format rather than the "zip" format used in Marck's batch file. So depending upon which compression utility you use you will have to make the appropriate changes to the batch file. Some people use Winrar where I used 7-Zip which is a free compression utility available on the web at http://www.7-zip.org/. Using the 7-Zip compression utility using the UPDATE feature on a mail base of approximately 910 MB and 10 MB of program directory took approximately 4 minutes to do an incremental backup which facilitates backing up on exit. I tested the batch by deleting all remnants of TB from system (ie. program directory, mail directory, & registry) and restoring which also took about 4 minutes on the 910 MB mail base. These times can vary depending upon the change in the mail base. I believe I left echo on as provided by Marck in his original version. However you may want to turn it off after you are confident any changes made work properly for your configuration of TB on your PC. I am the only users on this PC, however IIRC for newer users who have recently installed TB with multiple profiles I believe the mail base changes for each user. So multiple versions of the shortcut and backup file will be required for each user on a PC that desires a backup. --#2 Incremental TB Backup Batch File (Name: TBigfs.bat)->> cd \ Path C:\Windows;C:\Program Files\7-ZIP rem Echo off Echo on Echo *** Echo *!! Updating Backup !!* Echo * !! Archive of TB-Program !! * Echo *** rem set archiver=C:\Program Files\7-Zip\7z.exe set drvPm=c: set drvBU=x: set dstdir=TBArchives\ set srcdirPM=Program files\The Bat!\ set srcdirMl=AppsBase\MAIL\ set archive=b1 : :loopPgrm set namePgm=%dstdir%tbIcPm%archive%.7z if not exist "%drvBU%\%namePgm%" goto doitPg if "%archive%"=="b4" goto runoutPg if "%archive%"=="b3" set archive=b4 if "%archive%"=="b2" set archive=b3 if "%archive%"=="b1" set archive=b2 goto loopPgrm : :runoutPg set archDel=b1 set nameDel=%dstdir%tbIcPm%archDel%.7z del %drvBU%\%nameDel% : :doitPg regedit /e "%drvPm%\%srcdirPM%tbreg.reg" hkey_current_user\software\rit cd \ if "%archive%"=="b4" set prev=b3 if "%archive%"=="b3" set prev=b2 if "%archive%"=="b2" set prev=b1 if "%archive%"=="b1" set prev=b4 %drvPm% cd \ copy %drvBU%\%dstdir%tbIcPm%prev%.7z %drvBU%\%namePgm% 7z u -ms=off %drvBU%\%namePgm% -up0q0r2x1y2z1w2 "%srcdirPM%*" -r %drvPm% cd %srcdirPM% del tbreg.reg cd \ if "%archive%"=="b4" set archDel=b1 if "%archive%"=="b3" set archDel=b4 if "%archive%"=="b2" set archDel=b3 if "%archive%"=="b1" set archDel=b2 set namePgm=%drvBU%\%dstdir%t
Re: Is there a way to format date & time display of created/received column?
Hallo Arthur, On Sun, 30 May 2004 16:46:14 -0400GMT (30-5-04, 22:46 +0200, where I live), you wrote: AT> I am a new user of SecureBat! Lite v. 2.10.02. Is there a way to AT> format the date and time display of the created and received column? Options -> Preferences -> Messages -> Date/Time display That's how it's called at TB 2.10.03, I'd guess that SB 2.10.02 won't differ very much. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Chat folder HOWTO ?
Dear Shahar, @30-May-2004, 23:51 +0300 (30-May 21:51 UK time) Shahar [S] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: S> Is there a help file or howto about the new chat filder ? S> What is it's purpose ? While I may have sanctioned conversation about the forthcoming emoticon support by way of a heralding of the feature, discussion of the new mail chat facility and the related chat folder is 100% a beta topic. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.11 Beta/9 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgpwivzHVhHbV.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Chat folder HOWTO ?
Hello all, Is there a help file or howto about the new chat filder ? What is it's purpose ? TIA. -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] QOTD: Live free or die. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! Help File
Hello Simon, Sunday, May 30, 2004, 2:47:20 PM, you wrote: SE> Hi SE> About a month ago I downloaded The Bar! Version 2.1, and I've just SE> registered it. Can someone advise where I can get the help file from? SE> When I select help from the menu, I get a message saying that the help SE> file can't be found. Version 2.10 is out, I would download that. I seem to have the help installed OK, b ut it is of only marginal use IMHO. You won't lose any existing config by upgrading. -- Best regards, Jim Lanyon Multitone Electronics Sales Manager - Emergency Services Tel: 01506 418198 Mobile: 07802 838675 Fax: 01506 411711 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Is there a way to format date & time display of created/received column?
Hi everyone, I am a new user of SecureBat! Lite v. 2.10.02. Is there a way to format the date and time display of the created and received column? Take care, Arthur Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: "8-bit characters are treated without changes"
Hello Cyrille, You wrote on 2004.05.30., 19:02: > In the account properties (mail management tag) is an option to > define how 8-bit characters are to be treated: Default value is > "without changes". > I do not understand for what reason should I choose the option > "without changes" since SMTP supports only 7-bit ASCII characters > and (at least in theory and according to Internet standards) they > become unreadable once they are sent. These days, most mail servers can cope with 8-bit characters. However, it's still better to encode the headers instead of 8-bit sending, to avoid the ambiguity of the "high ascii" characters. For example, see my From name: "Szabolcs Péter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" If it's encoded like From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Szabolcs_P=E9ter?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> then you could tell unambigously that =E9 in iso-8859-2 means "é". But should I sent it like FROM: "Szabolcs Péter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" , it would be up to the recipient's mail user agent to interpret the accented character, and it would probably display it in some local code page - which will not be necessarily intelligible :) Cheers, SyP -- Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. (George Bernard Shaw) Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Change E-Mail Address for TBUDL
Hello Michael, On Sun, 30 May 2004 13:16:46 -0400 GMT (31/05/2004, 00:16 +0700 GMT), Michael Rudnick wrote: MR> How do I change the e-mail address I use to subscribe to TBUDL? Do I need MR> to unsubscribe and re-subscribe? That's what I'd do. You will probably get a reply how you can change your membership etc. But unsubbing and resubbing is so easy: To unsub from the current address, highlight any message in the list and go to Message / Mailing List / Unsubscribe. An email will be generated, that you put into the Outbox. Now, highlight that same message in the message list and go to Message / Mailing List / Subscribe. In the message that opens, go to Options / Account and choose the new account you want to subscribe with. Put the resulting message in the Outbox. You will receive message requesting your confirmation, but you only need to hit Reply on them. Hm. Sounds long-winded, but I have done it several times, it really takes no more than a couple of seconds. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. SYMPTOM: Floor blurred. FAULT: You are looking through bottom of empty glass. ACTION: Get someone to buy you another beer. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 Beta/9 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Change E-Mail Address for TBUDL
Hello Michael, Sunday, May 30, 2004, 12:16:46 PM, Michael Rudnick wrote: MR> How do I change the e-mail address I use to subscribe to TBUDL? click on the link at the bottom of every message from TBUDL. http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html On the left pane click on "Unsubscribing or Adjusting your Subscription" & login to TBUDL Subscription. I believe you can change your email address without un-subscribing. MR> Do I need to unsubscribe and re-subscribe? No see above. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/9 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Quoting Abe Lincoln: You can please all the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but not all the people all of the time. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fake bounce
Hello rich, Sunday, May 30, 2004, 1:16:45 AM, rich gregory wrote: rg> Hummm. Maybe we should all just pay .05 cents for each email we rg> send... I don't like that ideal either. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/9 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 "There are two theories about arguing with women Neither one works." Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Change E-Mail Address for TBUDL
How do I change the e-mail address I use to subscribe to TBUDL? Do I need to unsubscribe and re-subscribe? Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
"8-bit characters are treated without changes"
Hello TBUDL, In the account properties (mail management tag) is an option to define how 8-bit characters are to be treated: Default value is "without changes". I do not understand for what reason should I choose the option "without changes" since SMTP supports only 7-bit ASCII characters and (at least in theory and according to Internet standards) they become unreadable once they are sent. Why is there this option? What does this option do? Why is this the default value? -- Best regards, Cyrille mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [This delimiter left TB in correct format!] [ TB! 2.10.01, Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000, Pentium 233Mhz with 95MB ] Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Emoticons in upcoming new TB! version
Hello Marck, On Sun, 30 May 2004 17:11:40 +0100 GMT (30/05/2004, 23:11 +0700 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: TF>> OK, let the moderators decide. ;-) [...] MDP> We often say stuff like "hey - we know this is a problem right now, MDP> but the next release has it covered - we have the fix in the current MDP> beta. I know this is a stretch of that point, but - hey - it's a fun MDP> one! ;-). MDP> I say - let it ride (this time). Next time, I go trout fishing!! MDP> ;-). That's a decision! Thanks. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. ZWIEBELN statt Kiwis kaufen! Sie sind laenger haltbar und ausserdem preiswerter. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 Beta/9 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Emoticons in upcoming new TB! version
Dear Thomas, @30-May-2004, 22:57 +0700 (30-May 16:57 UK time) Thomas Fernandez [TF] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Dan: TF>>> No, that only mean it is appropriate for TBBETA and not for TF>>> TBUDL. After the release it will be appropriate here. Just MHO TF>>> (I am not a moderator on TBUDL). DG>> Disagree (again, not a moderator). News about TB is of interest DG>> to TB users who choose not to use betas. Discussions re the DG>> implementation, bugs, process, maybe even utility are OT. TF> OK, let the moderators decide. ;-) Okay - if in doubt - let's go back to the TBUDL mission statement: ,--/ It says: \-- The TBUDL list has been set up for the purpose of discussing The Bat! and how to use it. It is a community of users ready and able to help new users get to grips with some of the capabilities of this flexible email client. More complex issues are discussed on the TBTECH list (see below for details). `--\ End /-- Well, we're doing that. We're discussing a beta feature, sure, but it's due for release in, oooh, let me see ... 2 days? I think it would be a little pedantic of me to insist that the forthcoming emoticon support *not* be mentioned at this stage. We often say stuff like "hey - we know this is a problem right now, but the next release has it covered - we have the fix in the current beta. I know this is a stretch of that point, but - hey - it's a fun one! ;-). I say - let it ride (this time). Next time, I go trout fishing!! ;-). -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.11 Beta/9 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgpYsdtxV4J0m.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Emoticons in upcoming new TB! version [was Re: Leif's h2g2 smilies for new TB!...]
Hello Dan, On Sun, 30 May 2004 10:15:05 -0400 GMT (30/05/2004, 21:15 +0700 GMT), Dan Greenberg wrote: TF>> No, that only mean it is appropriate for TBBETA and not for TBUDL. TF>> After the release it will be appropriate here. TF>> Just MHO (I am not a moderator on TBUDL). DG> Disagree (again, not a moderator). News about TB is of interest to DG> TB users who choose not to use betas. Discussions re the DG> implementation, bugs, process, maybe even utility are OT. OK, let the moderators decide. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Eine Frage zu Word: "Wo sind denn hier die Sonderzeichen fuer die roemischen Ziffern?" "Du must alt festhalten und dann auf dem Nummernblock 73 fuer ein "I" und 86 fuer ein "V" tippen." Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 Beta/9 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! Help File
On Sunday, May 30, 2004, 4:30:54 PM, you wrote: D> Actually, you'll need to download 2.10.03. D> I had the same problem, the slightly older version is missing the help file. D> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php That version installed the help file. Thanks. -- Simon Elliott http://www.ctsn.co.uk Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! Help File
Actually, you'll need to download 2.10.03. I had the same problem, the slightly older version is missing the help file. http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php -- Best regards, DB Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Fake bounce
On Sunday, May 30, 2004, 8:17:07 AM, Paul Cartwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: PC> On Saturday, May 29, 2004, 11:22 PM, you wrote: j>> ith a TB macro. It's much more time consuming that just deleting the offending j>> messages as sending an email to Spamcop is only half the process. You must also j>> wait for an email link for each spam email that you sent to Spamcop, then go to j>> their site to finish processing the isp reporting piece. I have doubts that it is j>> efficacious in reducing spam but it does "feel better" than just deleting the j>> spam! PC> you don't have to "wait" for the reply, Marck has 2 filters, one also PC> takes the reply and opens up a browser window for you with the spamcop PC> submit page open. If it "takes the reply" then you have to wait for it, no? Nevertheless, my primary point is that using Spamcop is more time consuming that simply deleting email off the server based on viewing the header (ala Mailwasher) and that (IMO) any reduction of spam due to the use of Spamcop service is probably insignificant. jon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! Help File
Hi Simon, on Sun, 30 May 2004 15:32:07 +0100GMT, you wrote: MDP>> The help file is not a condition of registration and should have MDP>> been there all along. There isn't a place to get it from separately MDP>> to the full installer. If I were you, I'd just reinstall. SE> Will I lose any config or messages if I reinstall? No, not if you reinstall to the same directory. -- Cheers Peter A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? pgpzpEPPhavoz.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! Help File
Hi Marck, On Sunday, May 30, 2004, 2:56:19 PM, you wrote: SE>> About a month ago I downloaded The Bar! Version 2.1, and I've SE>> just registered it. Can someone advise where I can get the help SE>> file from? When I select help from the menu, I get a message SE>> saying that the help file can't be found. MDP> The help file is not a condition of registration and should have MDP> been there all along. There isn't a place to get it from separately MDP> to the full installer. If I were you, I'd just reinstall. Will I lose any config or messages if I reinstall? -- Simon Elliott http://www.ctsn.co.uk Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to delete a message from the server?
Fri, 28 May 2004 18:00:16 +0300 (11:00 AM EDT here) Costas Papadopoulos wrote: > I notice that using a filter one can delete a message from the > server. Is there a way to configure it so that a message from a > particular email address is deleted on the server without the > message being also downloaded to my PC? This procedure allows you to indicate which messages you don't want to download, to download only those messages you want to download, and then to delete all the messages on the server. 1. Starting in the TheBat! window, highlight something in the (your) account that you want to work with. 1.1 [Ctrl]+[F2] 2. Select the Message Dispatcher window. 2.1 Press the From button to sort by senders 2.2 Under the Receive button, uncheck those messages you don't want to download. 2.3 [F2] Using: The Bat! v2.10.03, BayesIt! 0.5.4, MyMacros 1.10 Windows 2000 v5.0 - Build 2195 - Service Pack 4 -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Emoticons in upcoming new TB! version [was Re: Leif's h2g2 smilies for new TB!...]
Message received at: 5/29/2004:1:07 AM TF> On Fri, 28 May 2004 21:11:03 -0500 GMT (29/05/2004, 09:11 +0700 TF> No, that only mean it is appropriate for TBBETA and not for TBUDL. TF> After the release it will be appropriate here. TF> Just MHO (I am not a moderator on TBUDL). Disagree (again, not a moderator). News about TB is of interest to TB users who choose not to use betas. Discussions re the implementation, bugs, process, maybe even utility are OT. -- Dan 'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.' (dropped by The Bat, version 2.11 Beta/9) Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The world's most useful filter
Message received at: 5/29/2004:4:07 AM ZAÖ> Saturday, May 29, 2004, 3:43:21 AM, you wrote: ZAÖ> I have filter like this: Assume my address is zeynelo @ ZAÖ> e-kolay.net ZAÖ> Strings Location Presence e-kolay.net ZAÖ> RecipientYes zeynelo@ RecipientNo ZAÖ> and move to junk folder. For example it will delete e-mails if ZAÖ> recipient is [EMAIL PROTECTED], and I am not the one of the ZAÖ> recipients. Wait a minute. Won't that move any e-mail from friends on the same email server? -- Dan 'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.' (dropped by The Bat, version 2.11 Beta/9) Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! Help File
Dear Simon, @30-May-2004, 14:47 Simon Elliott [SE] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: SE> About a month ago I downloaded The Bar! Version 2.1, and I've SE> just registered it. Can someone advise where I can get the help SE> file from? When I select help from the menu, I get a message SE> saying that the help file can't be found. The help file is not a condition of registration and should have been there all along. There isn't a place to get it from separately to the full installer. If I were you, I'd just reinstall. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.11 Beta/9 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgpMwOb9m8qDM.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! Help File
Hi About a month ago I downloaded The Bar! Version 2.1, and I've just registered it. Can someone advise where I can get the help file from? When I select help from the menu, I get a message saying that the help file can't be found. -- Simon Elliott http://www.ctsn.co.uk Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Emoticons in upcoming new TB! version [was Re: Leif's h2g2 smilies for new TB!...]
On Saturday, May 29, 2004, 11:49 PM, you wrote: AJ> Yes, the *first* three. And now Paul's makes 4. I always like even numbers:) AJ> So, to send this thread completely OT, I'll point out that it is not a AJ> holiday weekend where I am. Surely all listers know this is a very AJ> international audience? oh, without a doubt! I was basically referring to Leif, since I know where he lives, and he is a moderator, so I was trying to be nice to HIM ;D AJ> (And reverting back to the original OT,) let's see if this thread AJ> remains in an SEP field now. If it does, then I guess 6 times 9 really AJ> is 42. what is a SEP? as far as 6 and 9, that was a song in the Movie Easy Rider Released in 1969: If 6 Were 9 - Jimi Hendrix Experience Featuring: Jimi Hendrix http://musicclips.liquiddigitalmedia.com/asf1/1/8/7/5/0001055781.asf -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/9 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Apr2004 (4.1.396) (avast! version number) 0422-1 (27.05.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.396 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fake bounce
On Saturday, May 29, 2004, 11:22 PM, you wrote: j> ith a TB macro. It's much more time consuming that just deleting the offending j> messages as sending an email to Spamcop is only half the process. You must also j> wait for an email link for each spam email that you sent to Spamcop, then go to j> their site to finish processing the isp reporting piece. I have doubts that it is j> efficacious in reducing spam but it does "feel better" than just deleting the j> spam! you don't have to "wait" for the reply, Marck has 2 filters, one also takes the reply and opens up a browser window for you with the spamcop submit page open. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/9 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Apr2004 (4.1.396) (avast! version number) 0422-1 (27.05.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.396 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
