RE:Roguemoticons Help
Hello Ian, Saturday, July 24, 2004, 7:52:24 AM, you wrote: MT I'm sorry to ask what will probably be a stupid question but where can MT I download the latest rogue picture files? I have the X-Rogue header MT added to my headers but it's not showing the pics. There are various messages that have the links, but I cannot locate them quickly. Maybe there should be a link to these on the RIT Labs web site given that this is a feature of the program. This way anyone (even those not involved in these discussion groups as there are the smileys, flags, etc. as well) can find them and use them. right, and I would put a weblink into the 'help' menu of TB, too! -- Best regards, Jürgen :eu-flag3: :de-bw: Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder... Using The Bat! v2.12.00, Opera v7.53.3850 on Win.XP.5.1.2600.SP1 * PGP key available on request: send mail with subject 'PGP key request' pgpcQaiQca2ga.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Frayed threads?
Saturday, July 24, 2004, 12:06:11 AM, Allie wrote: AM Allister Jenks, [AJ] wrote: Oops! Sorry. Looks like a template to fix! AM Bitten by the To: macro? :) AM It's a lot better to create templates for the lists using address book AM templates. Give the list address book entries simple names so that AM creating new messages isn't such a hassle. AM For example, when creating a new tbudl message, I just bring up a new AM message and type tbudl. The auto-complete finishes the address entry. I AM tab into the message body field and go. Slightly more tedious, but AM worth the extra hassle ... no embarrassment. ;) Done. Much better thankyou. -- Cheers, Allister Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Roguemoticons Help
On 24-7 at 7:52 Ian wrote: Hello MT I'm sorry to ask what will probably be a stupid question but where can MT I download the latest rogue picture files? I have the X-Rogue header MT added to my headers but it's not showing the pics. There are various messages that have the links, but I cannot locate them quickly. It can be downloaded from http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/smileys/rogues.zip I've made a little .bat file, which is executed when a new person in the rogues is announced. It simply downloads the file and unzips it: cd C:\Program files\TheBat\Images C:\Program files\wget\wget.exe -N http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/smileys/rogues.zip C:\Program files\PKWARE\PKZIPC\pkzipc.exe -extract -overwrite=all C:\Program files\TheBat\Images\rogues.zip It uses wget (free from http://www.gnu.org/software/wget/wget.html#downloading) and pkzip (not free http://www.pkware.com/), but any command line zip tool will do. Note that older versions of pkunzip are avalible for free, but they do not understand long file names, and are useless in this case. If many people starts to auto download the rogues file, it may be hard for the server when new people are announced. In that case it would help to make a file with e.g. the 10 newest images and the settings file. -- Best regards, Simon Mikkelsen Contact information http://mikkelsen.tv/simon/contact/ Using TheBat 2.12.00 on Windows 2000 (NT 5.0) build 2195, Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Macro Help needed - addressing recipient according to gender set in AB
Hallo Jurgen, On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 21:37:39 +0200GMT (23-7-2004, 21:37 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JH if you ever make it to Stuttgart, let me know in advance, so that I can get all JH the beers cold IOU That's 630 km from here, been awhile that I've been so far from home -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE:Macro Help needed - addressing recipient according to gender set in AB
Hello Roelof, Saturday, July 24, 2004, 11:13:25 AM, you wrote: On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 21:37:39 +0200GMT (23-7-2004, 21:37 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JH if you ever make it to Stuttgart, let me know in advance, so that I can get all JH the beers cold IOU That's 630 km from here, been awhile that I've been so far from home then it's about time ;-) -- Best regards, Jürgen :eu-flag3: :de-bw: The only thing, where men quarrel who has the smaller, is the mobile phone. Using The Bat! v2.12.00, Opera v7.53.3850 on Win.XP.5.1.2600.SP1 * PGP key available on request: send mail with subject 'PGP key request' pgpUfVUsqnxBO.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is there a way to temporarily disable/turn-off the Connection Centre capability while The Bat! is open?
Hello subscriber2list, On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 16:21:10 -0400 GMT (24/07/2004, 03:21 +0700 GMT), subscriber2list wrote: s I'm looking for a way to temporarily turn off the Connection Centre s feature for short periods of time. Is this possible? If so, how does s one go about it? Hopefully, it is only a matter of selecting one or s two options at most. Going into each account to stop the checking for s emails is a pain. A global don't check still doesn't exist. What I do is, I close my firewall in such cases. It's a workaround only. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Sign in a London department store: BARGAIN BASEMENT UPSTAIRS Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12.02 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Virtual Folders
Hello, I havent tried them yet. Can someone send a link that helps explain how they work and some examples of what to use them for? I was using Operas M2 email client before, which uses views. I assume thats sort of what virtual folders are. Is that correct? Thanks -- Darrin WinXP Home Service Pack 1 Tbat! 2.12.00 pgpPwlH9WlTFm.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Folders
Hi Darrin, on Sat, 24 Jul 2004 07:28:59 -0700GMT, you wrote: DR I havent tried them yet. Can someone send a link that helps explain DR how they work and some examples of what to use them for? I was using DR Operas M2 email client before, which uses views. I assume thats sort DR of what virtual folders are. Is that correct? I never used Opera for mailing, so I can't say. Virtual Folders summon messages that apply to certain search criteria like unread or flagged or parked or whatever from one or more accounts. For my own purposes I have only one VF that shows flagged messages from all accounts. When I view my emails, I sometimes flag a message, when I intend to do anything with it later. I find them all in my flagged VF. I'm sure that some other members make more use of this feature. -- Cheers Peter Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future Niehls Bohr See headers for public key. pgpm4i5cGLwmX.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Folders
Hi Peter, On 7/24/2004 7:41 AM my time, Peter wrote: PM For my own purposes I have only one VF that shows flagged messages PM from all accounts. When I view my emails, I sometimes flag a message, PM when I intend to do anything with it later. I find them all in my PM flagged VF. That sounds like a very useful feature. Ill have to look into the help files to figure out how to set that up. Thanks for the idea Peter -- Darrin WinXP Home Service Pack 1 Tbat! 2.12.00 pgpTOVtKGbSwT.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Folders
Hey Darrin, My MUA believes mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] was written on Saturday, July 24, 2004 at 10:28:59 AM. DR I havent tried them yet. Can someone send a link that helps explain DR how they work and some examples of what to use them for? I was using DR Operas M2 email client before, which uses views. I assume thats sort DR of what virtual folders are. Is that correct? DR Thanks I just set up my first one 2 days ago. I wanted to start using BayesIt, so set one up to list all messages from my TB folder with BayesIt in the subject line. I read over 100 messages, and found answers to all my questions except 1, which I then asked on the list yesterday. If you know how to create a normal folder, search, and create a filter, you should have no problems. The only thing I had a bit of trouble with is you need to *left* click the filter criteria, not right click it. -- Tim Musson Flying with The Bat! eMail v2.12.00 You realisze, of course, your computer could get this done much faster *without* you. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Folders
Hi Tim, On 7/24/2004 8:47 AM my time, Tim wrote: TM If you know how to create a normal folder, search, and create a TM filter, you should have no problems. The only thing I had a bit of TM trouble with is you need to *left* click the filter criteria, not TM right click it. Ill give it a go and see how it works out. Thanks :) -- Darrin WinXP Home Service Pack 1 Tbat! 2.12.00 pgpKogC3KVFoA.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Site URLs for PCWSmileys and Roguemoticons [was Re: Roguemoticons Help]
Hello Ian! On Saturday, July 24, 2004, 12:52 AM, you wrote: IAW Maybe there should be a link to these on the RIT Labs web site given IAW that this is a feature of the program. This way anyone (even those not IAW involved in these discussion groups as there are the smileys, flags, IAW etc. as well) can find them and use them. And Marck could put the Roguemoticon link and the PCWSmileys link (they are two separate sites, run separately) on his Silverstones page--the link to which is at the bottom of every TB! list post. For you, Ian, so you can Park this information--you might even put it into a SmartBat memo-- Roguemoticons: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/ PCWSmileys (includes: Smileys, Flags, Personal Pets, Avatars): http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys.php When uploading an image for all to share on the PCWSmiley page, please e-mail me at Trill at Pcwize dot com. If you can't make the information in the above sentence out, just write to me at the PM address in the headers to this post. Please don't merely post the message though--I might miss it. :) Tell me--you know this Ian, it's just to encourage others to share and let me know who's sharing, that is, uploading an image-- Tell me, in the e-mail, which of 7 places the image falls as to copyright status: 1) Uploading person owns the image and gives permission to distribute it. 2) Uploading person believes the image is in the public domain, and is here giving the place it was obtained from, with the reason it appears to be in the public domain--if it's a website, the URL, too, please, if you have it. 3) Uploading person believes the image is under copyright and appends the chain of correspondence through which was obtained the copyright owner's permission for distribution through the PCWSmileys data base. 4) Uploading person got the emoticon from www.emoticons4u.com , which is a site where the website owner, Niels Kolb, has sent permission to use emoticons from, in addition to his opinion that all the emoticons there are in the public domain. Or, 5) Uploading person got the flag being uploaded from http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/docs/flagsoftheworld.html the only site we know of, so far, where the flag images appear to be in the public domain. 6) If it's an Avatar, the situation may be complex. Write to me the copyright status circumstances of any image used in the Avatar. 7) Personal pet photos that you own are most welcome. Please send them as jpegs or gifs--better around 5 to 10 Kb and fairly small dimensions, to fit well on a page of text when used there. But if you can't get them down in size, send an attachment to me by PM. I have Irfanview (an image program) and I can do that for you. Personally, I very much enjoy seeing other people's pets. I've recently put up two pictures of my own. -- Best regards, Mary (Mary Bull, PCWSmileys Administrator). http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php :trill: The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Using one message base for two TB! installs
I am now the proud owner of two registered copies of TB! One is version 1.6, and the other (purchased just last week) is the latest version... 2.1, I think. I have a small personal LAN, on which I am the only user. What I want to do, is have a single folder for email messages, and the other stuff that is normally saved to the TB! data folder, on my server, and both versions of TB! able to access it and write to it... but never at the same time, since I am only one person, and will never have both TB! programs open at the same time. If this is possible (as in no conflicts between the two versions, etc.), I would be grateful in advance, to anyone who would point me to the 'how to' page... if one exists. At the moment, the new version doesn't have any messages to speak of in it, just a few folders and test messages that I set up, in a single account, to play around with, so I will plan on just deleting that folder, and pointing it to the working folder from the 1.6 version, once it is moved over to my server. Thanks in advance, for any suggestions. -wittig http://www.robertwittig.com/ If you have to lie, to sell it... don't. . Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Folders
Hello Darrin Rich, 24-Jul-2004 16:28, you wrote: I havent tried them yet. Can someone send a link that helps explain how they work and some examples of what to use them for? I was using Operas M2 email client before, which uses views. I assume thats sort of what virtual folders are. Is that correct? Thanks Funny. Thats the question I wanted to ask when I subscribed to the list just today. :-) As far as I can tell the difference between M2's database views and TB's virtual folders is that M2 can auto-adapt the views according to messages added or removed to/from the view (learning with a Bayes filter, or something). However, I just started using virtual folders... [IMHO the way that M2 deals with sorting/classification is the key to mail handling in the future, and hopefully TheBat will pick the idea up. The mailer side of TheBat itself is simply way out of reach for M2, thats why I returned to TheBat] -- Best regards, Alexander Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Folders
Hi Alexander, On 7/24/2004 9:45 AM my time, Alexander wrote: ASK [IMHO the way that M2 deals with sorting/classification is the key to mail ASK handling in the future, and hopefully TheBat will pick the idea up. The ASK mailer side of TheBat itself is simply way out of reach for M2, thats why I ASK returned to TheBat] You share the exact same opinion on this as I do. The sorting side of M2 is the best I have ever experienced. I can handle tons of emails and be able to locate them with little effort. Thebat is far superior on the other details. The combination of thebat and M2 combined would be my dream email client. -- Darrin WinXP Home Service Pack 1 Tbat! 2.12.00 pgpjbMlxk9rqP.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Folders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was Sat, 24 Jul 2004, at 16:41:06 +0200, @ @ when Peter Meyns wrote: For my own purposes I have only one VF that shows flagged messages from all accounts. When I view my emails, I sometimes flag a message, when I intend to do anything with it later. I find them all in my flagged VF. I'm sure that some other members make more use of this feature. I had such intention and have made several VFs. Then I grasped that they really need a *time* for recounting the respected messages. So, I got beck to just a flagged VF. (-; It's anyway useful feature, and serves me as a reminder of messages I have to reply to. - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBAozs9q62QPd3XuIRAp8KAJ9vNO7OSNoKUIua0aF1ks5DwwDYKACeK+Vi RWJEkX96ekVapgTcpqEi0Is= =MZdj -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using one message base for two TB! installs
Robert C Wittig said: What I want to do, is have a single folder for email messages, and the other stuff that is normally saved to the TB! data folder, on my server, and both versions of TB! able to access it and write to it... AFAIK this won't work as v1.x and v2.x use different types of message base. -- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using one message base for two TB! installs
Hallo Robert, On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 11:43:42 -0700GMT (24-7-2004, 20:43 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RCW I am now the proud owner of two registered copies of TB! Congrats. RCW What I want to do, is have a single folder for email messages, and the RCW other stuff that is normally saved to the TB! data folder, on my RCW server, and both versions of TB! able to access it and write to it... If both were the same version that would be possible without any problems. Just point both installations to the same directory. However, since v2 TB uses different files to store its folder info (account.flx in v1, account.flb in v2) so any changes in the folder structure you'd make would be made for one version, while the other version wouldn't know about it. Another change is that since 2.12 the account info is store in a file called account.cfn whereas that was account.cfg in the older versions, so any account specific changes wouldn't be picked up by the other version. Finally there's a whole bunch of macros that have slightly changed since v1 so QT's that worked alright in v1 won't do that in v2 and the other way around too. v2 knows some more macros. You'd do best to upgrade your 1.6 to v2, that way you avoid these issues. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Folders
Hello Darrin Rich, 24-Jul-2004 18:55, you wrote: ASK [IMHO the way that M2 deals with sorting/classification is the key to ASK mail handling in the future, and hopefully TheBat will pick the idea ASK up. The mailer side of TheBat itself is simply way out of reach for ASK M2, thats why I returned to TheBat] You share the exact same opinion on this as I do. The sorting side of M2 is the best I have ever experienced. I can handle tons of emails and be able to locate them with little effort. Thebat is far superior on the other details. I just couldn't stop thinking about a way of reaching something similar in TheBat (I began to hate all the subfolders in various accounts and adapting filter criteria again and again to catch all messages once I knew how it is handled in M2). So far, I've tried simulating that functionality by combining TheBat with PopFile (a Bayes filter that can handle multiple buckets and not only keep ham and spam apart, http://popfile.sourceforge.net). If you limit yourself to a reasonable number of buckets (so that the learning won't take forever) you can set up virtual folders that filter by the X-Text-Classification header that PopFile adds to the messages. However, wrong classifications by PopFile (which naturally do happen in the beginning) lead to the mails being shown in the wrong virtual folder. You can reclassify them in PopFile, but the mail is already imported into TB's messagebase by then. Problematic when you subscribe to a new mailinglist, sign up for another newsletters - in short: whenever the classification needs to be enhanced/adapted (false positives are guaranteed during the first couple of mails). Because of that, I currently filter to common folders and maybe switch to virtual folders, later (when PopFile has received more training). The combination of thebat and M2 combined would be my dream email client. Exactly. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander Tomorrow a stranger will say with masterly good sense precisely what we have thought and felt all the time, and we shall be forced to take with shame our own opinion from another. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Folders
Peter on Sat, 24 Jul 2004 07:28:59 -0700GMT, you wrote: SNIP Peter Virtual Folders summon messages that apply to certain search criteria Peter like unread or flagged or parked or whatever from one or more Peter accounts. Peter For my own purposes I have only one VF that shows flagged messages Peter from all accounts. When I view my emails, I sometimes flag a message, Peter when I intend to do anything with it later. I find them all in my Peter flagged VF. Care to elaborate on how you have the filters and such set up for this operation, sounds like something I would like. -- Thanks to one and all Jimmie :usflag: Classic: A book which people praise but don't read. - Mark Twain Using The Bat! 2.12.00 under , Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium 133 with 128MB. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Folders
Hi Alexander, On 7/24/2004 10:16 AM my time, Alexander wrote: ASK I just couldn't stop thinking about a way of reaching something similar in ASK TheBat (I began to hate all the subfolders in various accounts and adapting ASK filter criteria again and again to catch all messages once I knew how it is ASK handled in M2). Exactly. ASK So far, I've tried simulating that functionality by combining TheBat with ASK PopFile (a Bayes filter that can handle multiple buckets and not only keep ASK ham and spam apart, http://popfile.sourceforge.net) Ill have to look into Popfile. I havent tried that yet. -- Darrin WinXP Home Service Pack 1 Tbat! 2.12.00 pgpUDjsamumAb.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is there a way to temporarily disable/turn-off the Connection Centre capability while The Bat! is open?
Hello subscriber2list, On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 13:07:21 -0400 GMT (25/07/2004, 00:07 +0700 GMT), subscriber2list wrote: s Guten Tag, Thomas! Guten Abend! s I'm looking for a way to temporarily turn off the Connection Centre s feature for short periods of time. TF A global don't check still doesn't exist. What I do is, I close my TF firewall in such cases. It's a workaround only. s Aaah, too bad. I found a suggestion by Marck in the archives, but it s seemed really to only (perhaps) benefit one that is on dial-up s connection. I'm on DSL ... so I could disconnect my DSL modem ;), s but that's not really a real good solution as I might want to surf or s check out links that I discover in various emails. So that solution doesn't work for you. s So, when you close your firewall, you essentially target The Bat! s application and dney it access to the internet, right? That's the idea. s That's reasonable, but is a real PITA and should be unnecessary s overall IMHO, but who cares about my HO? LOL! I don't know what an HO is, but I think it's resonable to submit a wish for TB to have a global don't connect switch. s Take care. BTW, I have been enjoying reading the German thread and s much of it is coming back to me, but I am wondering if I might impose s on you from time to time re: a translation or two. Don't worry ... be s happy ... I wouldn't inundate you with a whole bunch of translation s stuff ... just a few from time to time. No prob. Send me PM, but responses can take a day. s Vielen Dank. Kein Problem. s Mit freundlichen Grüssen Very formal. I sign business letters like that. Viele Grüße or simply Gruß would do... :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Early to rise and early to bed, makes a man healthy but socially dead. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12.02 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unfinished message sent without permission
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was Fri, 23 Jul 2004, at 11:00:04 +0100, @ @ when Tim Sharrock wrote: If I know I want to be working on a message for a while, and want to make sure it won't be sent, I add an extra recipient of nobody or DONT_SEND_YET or some such string which is not a valid address and not in an address book. That stops The Bat! from sending it. That's useful trick; I just tried it out and it works here. Thanks, Tim. (A less useful side-effect... if you are running The Bat as a client with a Bat running elsewhere as a server, the client does not see a message when you try to send it, but if you try to send it from the server then you do see a message - this had me puzzled for a while when my wife miscut-and-pasted an address on one of her emails) I never worked having such combination, but will have in mind (the archive) if I ever need it. - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBAqLL9q62QPd3XuIRAoKaAKCG1HfJk0P9D6elRtEI8B1+Tz0GQACfdCOn ja6fJdDYvTHY2iMwoSRWMkU= =IGTh -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Virtual Folders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jimmie, On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JT Care to elaborate on how you have the filters and such set up for this operation, sounds JT like something I would like. Can I jump in here because I was flummoxed by virtual filters for a while and was scared to use them and they are, if fact, so easy. Right click anywhere in the account and choose New/Virtual folder. Give it a suitable name and then choose filter and there you are, you can choose to sort by Fast Search or set up a more detailed folder. I have a couple of Virtual Folders for Parked messages. - -- Regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.12.03 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: iQA/AwUBQQKmrxqZtcDKk7W+EQIKVgCggwod/DG43RPfKgzRrCQW4WcXK3QAoN5d LyvxnEUyi/hJN1mUJ69gzOy8 =+fSv -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Folders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was Sat, 24 Jul 2004, at 11:53:53 -0500, @ @ when Jimmie Toney wrote: Peter For my own purposes I have only one VF that shows flagged messages Peter from all accounts. When I view my emails, I sometimes flag a message, Peter when I intend to do anything with it later. I find them all in my Peter flagged VF. Care to elaborate on how you have the filters and such set up for this operation, sounds like something I would like. Firstly you create a new virtual folder. Then, in its Properties, under Filter tab you check Flagged. Then you Select folders you want to see flagged messages from (I use all of them from all accounts). - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBAqdB9q62QPd3XuIRAmR0AJoCWpTLc1tWiqILrppx//b7a0Xp2ACcCui3 aCxnSuwmsyYqyXcubeWQg58= =Gg0y -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Virtual Folders
Hello, I want to create a virtual folder that shows emails from a specific address book. Can some one give me the steps to do so? Once I create this folder does work on previous emails I have or only on emails that were received once the folder was created? -- Darrin WinXP Home Service Pack 1 Tbat! 2.12.00 pgpslfQKacMPh.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Folders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Darrin, On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DR I want to create a virtual folder that shows emails from a specific DR address book. Create a new virtual folder. Select Filter/Use filter. LEFT click on any message and take your pick. Should do it. - -- Regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.12.03 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: iQA/AwUBQQLFpxqZtcDKk7W+EQKoSwCfdrr3MBhMsyOYctA3rH7Kz0S83t8An0zP ws9oKPZSzAuqv/QDWHsIMgXJ =3raw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Folders
Hello Darrin, Saturday, July 24, 2004, 3:03:18 PM, you wrote: DR I want to create a virtual folder that shows emails from a specific DR address book. Can some one give me the steps to do so? In the account you want the Virtual folder, right click and select New - Virtual Folder, or Common Virtual Folder. Give it a name. Select Filter Tab and then Check the Use Filter Box. Left click on the words Any Message and select Address Book. (Note this will only filter on names in your address books not in a specific address book, I think) Then left click on Sender and make a selection from the drop down box, or just use sender. The alternative to this is to Select Address Group instead of Address book. This gives you a chance to select from only a specific group within your address book. When you click on OK you will be given a chance to select which Accounts and folders to look in. Click to select a folder, CTRL click to select the whole account. DR Once I create this folder does work on previous emails I have or DR only on emails that were received once the folder was created? It should automatically add every message you have that meet the criteria, old and new. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.12.03 On Windows 98 4.10 Build # Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Folders
Saturday, July 24, 2004, 6:16:28 PM, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: re baysian sorting... So far, I've tried simulating that functionality by combining TheBat with PopFile (a Bayes filter that can handle multiple buckets and not only keep ham and spam apart, http://popfile.sourceforge.net). If you limit yourself to a reasonable number of buckets (so that the learning won't take forever) you can set up virtual folders that filter by the X-Text-Classification header that PopFile adds to the messages. However, wrong classifications by PopFile (which naturally do happen in the beginning) lead to the mails being shown in the wrong virtual folder. You can reclassify them in PopFile, but the mail is already imported into TB's messagebase by then. Problematic when you subscribe to a new mailinglist, sign up for another newsletters - in short: whenever the classification needs to be enhanced/adapted (false positives are guaranteed during the first couple of mails). Because of that, I currently filter to common folders and maybe switch to virtual folders, later (when PopFile has received more training). I use a two stage process - I have Popfile classify mail, and then have a Bat! input-filter set a corresponding colour-group from the X-Text-Classification header. I then have my virtual folders set up based on the colour-groups. When a message is mis-classified, I can then double click on the X-Popfile-Link header (which I display in the header panel) to tell Popfile, and also right-click in the message-list-pane to change the colour-group, this is then picked up by the virtual folders. Tim -- Tim Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Folders
Hi Stuart, On 7/24/2004 1:43 PM my time, Stuart wrote: SC The alternative to this is to Select Address Group instead of Address SC book. This gives you a chance to select from only a specific group SC within your address book. Would I just type in the address book name? -- Darrin WinXP Home Service Pack 1 Tbat! 2.12.00 pgpX0WcXwQLbX.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Virtual Folders
Hello Darrin, Saturday, July 24, 2004, 4:26:23 PM, you wrote: SC The alternative to this is to Select Address Group instead of Address SC book. This gives you a chance to select from only a specific group SC within your address book. DR Would I just type in the address book name? Again, this seems to only apply to the subgroups that are under the Address Book, but yes you just type the name of the group in that little blank space. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.12.03 On Windows 98 4.10 Build # Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using one message base for two TB! installs
Hello Roelof, Saturday, July 24, 2004, 10:05:22 AM, you wrote: RO You'd do best to upgrade your 1.6 to v2, that way you avoid these RO issues. Thanks... I'll consider it. One further question... I have a LOT of mail in the 1.6 message base, and cannot simply discard it. Can it be imported into v2, along with the folder structure, address books, etc.? -wittig http://www.robertwittig.com/ If you have to lie, to sell it... don't. . Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Folders
Hi Stuart, On 7/24/2004 2:39 PM my time, Stuart wrote: SC Again, this seems to only apply to the subgroups that are under the SC Address Book, but yes you just type the name of the group in that SC little blank space. Thanks for the help. It seemed to work if I just select address book. But If I select address group and type in the name of the specific group, nothing shows up. By selecting just address book thats pretty much the same as Inbox-known. -- Darrin WinXP Home Service Pack 1 Tbat! 2.12.00 pgpyknNoV4Gdj.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Folders
Hello Tim Sharrock, 24-Jul-2004 23:16, you wrote: I use a two stage process - I have Popfile classify mail, and then have a Bat! input-filter set a corresponding colour-group from the X-Text-Classification header. I then have my virtual folders set up based on the colour-groups. When a message is mis-classified, I can then double click on the X-Popfile-Link header (which I display in the header panel) to tell Popfile, and also right-click in the message-list-pane to change the colour-group, this is then picked up by the virtual folders. That is smart! I never knew what to do with color groups before. :-) Thanks for the tip! -- Best regards, Alexander All those who believe in psychokinesis... raise my hand. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using one message base for two TB! installs
Hello Robert C Wittig, 25-Jul-2004 01:45, you wrote: One further question... I have a LOT of mail in the 1.6 message base, and cannot simply discard it. Can it be imported into v2, along with the folder structure, address books, etc.? I made a backup (just in case...), and then simply installed v2 over v1.62r. Worked like a charm, and I didn't need my backup. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander I like people who refuse to speak until they are ready to speak. -- Lillian Hellman Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP SpamPal.
Hi, On Saturday, July 17, 2004 21:37 your local time, which was 20:37 my local time, Charles Gerungan [CMG] wrote; I've been on the SpamPal forums and James Farmer (SpamPals developer) couldn't assist me with my current problems. http://www.spampalforums.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5879 Can someone take a look at the forum and maybe help where James couldn't? -- Regards, Chris Created using The Bat! v2.12.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using one message base for two TB! installs
Hallo Robert, On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 16:45:30 -0700GMT (25-7-2004, 1:45 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RO You'd do best to upgrade your 1.6 to v2, that way you avoid these RO issues. RCW One further question... I have a LOT of mail in the 1.6 message base, RCW and cannot simply discard it. I can understand that. RCW Can it be imported into v2, along with the folder structure, address RCW books, etc.? Yep. You can import everything, you can also copy everything to the mail account directory of your v2 install. Empty that directory first, then copy the stuff. After you start TB again, it'll miss the account.flb and account.cfn and will create the missing files from the predecessors. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is there a way to temporarily disable/turn-off the Connection Centre capability while The Bat! is open?
On Sun 25 July 2004, 3:07:21 +1000, Subscriber2list wrote: TF A global don't check still doesn't exist. What I do is, I close my TF firewall in such cases. It's a workaround only. Aaah, too bad. I found a suggestion by Marck in the archives, but it seemed really to only (perhaps) benefit one that is on dial-up connection. I'm on DSL ... so I could disconnect my DSL modem ;), but that's not really a real good solution as I might want to surf or check out links that I discover in various emails. Assuming you have a firewall either on a router or your computer, you could just close port 25 (or whatever other port you have SMTP set up on) to prevent your system sending messages. Similarly closing port 110 would stop the message download. You could also use a proxy like XRay for sending and/or receiving mail. That allows a single click to enable or disable its operation. -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Running [EMAIL PROTECTED] (see: www.setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu) No of SETI units returned: 303 Processing time: 1 years, 248 days, 0 hours. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using one message base for two TB! installs
Hello Roelof, Saturday, July 24, 2004, 4:30:31 PM, you wrote: RO Yep. You can import everything, you can also copy everything to the RO mail account directory of your v2 install. Empty that directory first, RO then copy the stuff. After you start TB again, it'll miss the RO account.flb and account.cfn and will create the missing files from the RO predecessors. Thanks! -wittig http://www.robertwittig.com/ If you have to lie, to sell it... don't. . Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Batworld.de in english?
Hello , Batworld.de looks like it has a lot of information on the site. But since its not in english, I have no ideas what exactly is on there. Is there a site similar to this but in english? If so please provide link(s) Thanks -- Darrin WinXP Home Service Pack 1 Tbat! 2.12.00 pgppUq2W7CkA4.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Batworld.de in english?
Hi Darrin Rich - On Sat, 24 Jul 2004, at 18:10:45 [GMT -0700] (which was 6:10 PM where I live) you wrote: Hello , Batworld.de looks like it has a lot of information on the site. But since its not in english, I have no ideas what exactly is on there. Is there a site similar to this but in english? If so please provide link(s) Thanks Go to Google (or Babblefish or AltaVista) and translate the site into English. That's what I do and it works great. -- Best Regards, Kevin Using The Bat! v2.12.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgpVLF8uthIQL.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Batworld.de in english?
Hi Kevin, On 7/24/2004 6:54 PM my time, Kevin wrote: KA Go to Google (or Babblefish or AltaVista) and translate the site into KA English. That's what I do and it works great. WOW! I honestly never knew google had this feature. Thats pretty cool. Thanks -- Darrin WinXP Home Service Pack 1 Tbat! 2.12.00 pgpKQuw8hRkpT.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Synch. bat folders
Hi I am new to bat. I have confusing regarding synchronisation of bat folder on my desk top and laptop. I have gone through faq and found it a bit confusing. What steps are required to keep a similar copy of the mails on both the computer? Any help will be appreciated. -- natwar lath Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bayesit better than K9?
Hello, I have K9 right now. Dont know much about bayesit plugin. Where do I get it and where can I find more info on how to use it and install it? Thanks -- Darrin WinXP Home Service Pack 1 Tbat! 2.12.00 pgpLv2xqoEyGs.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayesit better than K9?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Darrin, On Saturday, July 24, 2004 , at 20:22:34[GMT -0700](which was 8:22 PM where I live) you wrote (at least in part): DR Hello, DR I have K9 right now. Dont know much about bayesit plugin. Where do I DR get it and where can I find more info on how to use it and install DR it? DR Thanks Because BayesIT has no regEx and no DSNBL ability, it is hard to train. There is also no black/white list ability Michael Michael L. Wilson, MBA :usflag: Ecclesiastic Philosopher Teacher Critic If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. - - Exploiting The Bat! version 2.12.03 Hamstrung with Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Scanning with Nod32 anti-virus Sifting with SpamPal anti-Spam Hiding behind Outpost Pro Firewall -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: Big Brother is REALLY watching you iQA/AwUBQQMod22u7N+Qh+ieEQLmoQCdHoFqExL7t/vw9kjfOyBL5qa5XpUAn2ct nxVNkJmtzxRJ2ATmPUqnIzoR =71WU -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayesit better than K9?
Hi Michael, On 7/24/2004 8:26 PM my time, Michael wrote: MLW Because BayesIT has no regEx and no DSNBL ability, it is hard to MLW train. There is also no black/white list ability So do you recommend K9? I find K9 to work fairly decent for me. Im not sure what else is out there and what works better. -- Darrin WinXP Home Service Pack 1 Tbat! 2.12.00 pgpsRJPN92ZM3.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayesit better than K9?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Darrin, On Saturday, July 24, 2004 , at 20:32:52[GMT -0700](which was 8:32 PM where I live) you wrote (at least in part): DR Hi Michael, DR On 7/24/2004 8:26 PM my time, Michael wrote: DR So do you recommend K9? I find K9 to work fairly decent for me. Im not DR sure what else is out there and what works better. I've messed with popfile and k9 and spampal. Got me which is best. BayesIt is the fastest Michael L. Wilson, MBA :usflag: Ecclesiastic Philosopher Teacher Critic If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. - - Exploiting The Bat! version 2.12.03 Hamstrung with Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Scanning with Nod32 anti-virus Sifting with SpamPal anti-Spam Hiding behind Outpost Pro Firewall -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: Big Brother is REALLY watching you iQA/AwUBQQMqpm2u7N+Qh+ieEQJ/SACfXnI7TRpB50cfvo4xcYFZHyCCXlkAoPbC Kw2pIuDqzUnUg5wgTlTNFVcu =feUq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayesit better than K9?
Hi Darrin, On Sat, 24 Jul 2004, at 20:32:52 [GMT-0700] (which was Sun, 13:32:52 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: So do you recommend K9? I find K9 to work fairly decent for me. Im not sure what else is out there and what works better. I find SpamPal to be almost faultless. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Crime, Sex, Alcohol, Drugs...Boy do I love Congress! Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayesit better than K9?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello John, On Saturday, July 24, 2004 , at 14:27:20[GMT +1000](which was 9:27 PM where I live) you wrote (at least in part): JP I find SpamPal to be almost faultless. I love SpamPal, but with this persistent time out issue some of my accounts get hung. With BayesIt this timeout bug does not happen. Spampal is still installed and waiting for a timeout fix so that my accounts do not hang when they get out of sync with spampal. Michael L. Wilson, MBA :usflag: Ecclesiastic Philosopher Teacher Critic If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. - - Exploiting The Bat! version 2.12.03 Hamstrung with Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Scanning with Nod32 anti-virus Sifting with SpamPal anti-Spam Hiding behind Outpost Pro Firewall -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: Big Brother is REALLY watching you iQA/AwUBQQNKK22u7N+Qh+ieEQJ5GgCfVOGb+scLrzUmpJwdke0Mifzs370AoOvk 3dUPlUCbXUBBNBSjauRmnH4A =JYgG -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Macros unload
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings All, I use Z and MyMAcros macro files. I load them normally, exit The Bat, reopen it, and there is an error on each line and they are disabled. ideas? - -- Michael L. Wilson, MBA :usflag: Ecclesiastic Philosopher Teacher Critic Big Brother is watching - George Orwell (1984) - Exploiting The Bat! version 2.12.03 Hamstrung with Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Surfing with MyIE2/Maxthon Scanning with Nod32 anti-virus Hiding behind Outpost Pro Firewall Ponder this: I myself have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is. I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that differentiate me from a doormat. - Rebecca West, 1913 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: Big Brother is REALLY watching you iQA/AwUBQQNLBG2u7N+Qh+ieEQJ0vQCfbtnf6co5+JO6/JSZNP2tQS6HOT8AoNqQ 0eVPFvET//pYIbkWmnlZU+hW =9qXj -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
