Re: Limiting BayesIt to scan only unknown mail

2004-08-06 Thread Barry Wilkinson
Hello Aceman,

Friday, August 6, 2004, 12:02:22 AM, you wrote:

 Code 2 said:

 Where did you get BayesIt 0.5.9?


 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/bayesit/bayesit059.rar


If I try to install this version it GPF's. Anyone else experiencing this?


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Re: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??

2004-08-06 Thread Zonnet

ON Friday, August 6, 2004, 1:04:38 AM, you wrote:
BM The question (IMHO) asks about multiple From addresses in a single message, not
BM multiple messages in a folder.

Hi Bill,

I assumed that the multiple From addresses was I typo.
Think about it. How can I child have multiple fathers? oops

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Re: The Bat!: Email program or Toy?

2004-08-06 Thread Cory
On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 14:21:06 -0700, Darrin Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

The mail management of M2 along with
the macros and customization of TB.

Add to that the news functionality of Forte Agent, and I'm a first-off
user.
I feel I should add I'd rather see TB getting developed as a tool, and
not as a toy in the sense of the lately added smileys and rogues. It's
more useful to put efforts into solving existing problems than to add
playful functionality, which only adds to the complexity of the sw and
distract from the essence of e-mail, especially for the professional
user. A solid and (virtually) bug-free mail client might even attract
more corporate users then there are now.

Just my 2 cts...


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VF help needed

2004-08-06 Thread Thomas Andersson
Hello listers!

I've recently switched from a folder/rules-based approach to a
VF-based approach for my main mailaccount. Now to my question:

Is there an easy way to set up a VF that filters out all emails that
doesn't match the search criteria for my other VF:s for that specific
account? Preferably I don't want to change the search criteria for
that folder when adding new VF:s in the future.

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Archiving Messages

2004-08-06 Thread Chris
Hi everyone,

What is the best way to archive messages in The Bat? I have 2 specific situations in 
mind:

Sit #1: I have a number of email accounts setup in The Bat. In my main one, I have a 
couple of folders that no
longer receive messages. I would like to remove them from the view, but still have the 
option, at a later date, to
view the folders  messages again (at least temporarily, before removing them again).

Sit #2: As well as my main email account,  a couple of others that get some use, I 
have 3 old accounts that, due
to not being with the respective ISP's anymore, do not get used. However, they still 
have the old messages in them
that were sent to those addresses. One in particular is quite big,  takes a bit of 
time to load fully when The Bat
starts up. It's the same deal as sit #1 above - I want to remove these accounts from 
the view, but if I ever need
to view the messages again, I want to be able to add them back in (temporarily).

If anyone could help me, that would be great (using The Bat! v2.12.00 on XP Home).

Thanks,

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Re: how to use mymacros

2004-08-06 Thread Dan Grunberg
Fri, 06 Aug 2004 06:56:20 +0530 (9:26 PM EDT Thu here) pk roy wrote:

 hi all

   am new to mymacros which i have downloaded have installed it as a
   plug in i am unable to use it.. a primer on use is what i am
   looking for can anyone help

A primer file, MyMacros.chm , was included as part of the mymacros.zip
file that contains version 1.10. (MyMacros.chm was omitted from the
version 1.11 mymacros.zip file.)

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Re: The Bat!: Email program or Toy?

2004-08-06 Thread Jan Rifkinson
On Friday, August 06, 2004 it appears that Cory 
wrote the following in regards to The Bat!:  Email program or Toy?:

C I feel I should add I'd rather see TB getting developed as a tool, and
C not as a toy in the sense of the lately added smileys and rogues. It's
C more useful to put efforts into solving existing problems than to add
C playful functionality, which only adds to the complexity of the sw and
C distract from the essence of e-mail, especially for the professional
C user. A solid and (virtually) bug-free mail client might even attract
C more corporate users then there are now.

I tend to agree with your comments, Cory. All the s  r's are for
the email kids who have time to play. Not all of us do.

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Re: The Bat!: Email program or Toy?

2004-08-06 Thread Darrin Rich
Hi Jan,
On 8/6/2004 6:20 AM my time, Jan wrote:
JR I tend to agree with your comments, Cory. All the s  r's are for
JR the email kids who have time to play. Not all of us do.


Beauty of the customization of TB. If you like the S  R's you can use
them. If not, you dont have to. Its not for kids who have time to
play. It only takes a few minutes to place the files in the proper
place and set everything up. It could be done during a commercial
break on tv in fact. Not a lot of time at all. I enjoy seeing the
faces of people here in the forum, adds a nice personal touch to it I
think. Of course, just my opinion.
 
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Re: Limiting BayesIt to scan only unknown mail

2004-08-06 Thread Darrin Rich
Hi Code,
On 8/6/2004 9:59 PM my time, Code wrote:
C2 I couldn't find a .zip version, but you can download and install a
C2 free trial version of WinRAR to unpack the .rar file


Thanks. Ill check it out.
 
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Re: Limiting BayesIt to scan only unknown mail

2004-08-06 Thread Darrin Rich
Hi Ian,
On 8/6/2004 10:40 PM my time, Ian wrote:
IAW You can get 7Zip from www.7Zip.org which can handle .rar and a few
IAW others as well as zip.


Thanks for the link. Free software is always nice :)
 
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Re: Limiting BayesIt to scan only unknown mail

2004-08-06 Thread Darrin Rich
Hi Code,
On 8/6/2004 9:59 PM my time, Code wrote:
C2 I couldn't find a .zip version, but you can download and install a
C2 free trial version of WinRAR to unpack the .rar file 


If anyone is interested, I uploaded a .zip version of this file. Ill
leave it up for a few days.
http://home.comcast.net/~Darrin.Rich/bayesit059.zip
 
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Re: Limiting BayesIt to scan only unknown mail

2004-08-06 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Barry,

Friday, August 6, 2004, 1:51:46 AM, you wrote:
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/bayesit/bayesit059.rar
BW If I try to install this version it GPF's. Anyone else
BW experiencing this?

I don't get a GPF, but right after adding the plugin and I click OK,
it crashes TB, when I reopen it, it wasn't added.




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Re: Archiving Messages

2004-08-06 Thread Joseph N.
On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 13:01:12 GMT, Chris wrote:

 What is the best way to archive messages in The Bat? 

IMO there are two best ways to go.  One is to export the 
messages to a Unix-style mailbox.  Tools/Export/Unix.  That is a 
stable format that can be imported by many programs, including TB! 
and Thunderbird.  The advantage of this route is that the mail 
sits on your computer ready to be used if necessary but otherwise 
out of the way in a multi-vendor format that is likely to be 
accessible into the near future.  The other approach is to use an 
e-mail archiving program, such as Mailbag Assistant.  
www.fookes.com/mailbag  The advantage of using Mailbag Assistant 
is that you could filter, search, import/export, and reply from 
that program; additionally, you could use it to archive mail from 
many different programs.  

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Re: Limiting BayesIt to scan only unknown mail

2004-08-06 Thread Barry Wilkinson
Hello Leif,

Friday, August 6, 2004, 3:35:52 PM, you wrote:

 I don't get a GPF, but right after adding the plugin and I click OK,
 it crashes TB, when I reopen it, it wasn't added.

Sorry I should not have used the term GPF. I'm experiencing the same as you. Thanks 
for your reply,
it's worse when your the only one with the problem!


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Folder Views

2004-08-06 Thread Joseph N.
I thought I had this down, but apparently not.  I have a folder 
containing mail that needs to be processed.  The folder properties 
indicate that the Column Settings is set to use folder specific 
settings.  However, when I click a column heading to sort by that 
field--e.g., From instead of Created--the other folders also switch.  
I want this folder not to be using, or influencing, my default setup.  
How can I do this?

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Re[2]: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??

2004-08-06 Thread Pete Holsberg
Thursday, August 5, 2004, 7:04:38 PM, you wrote:


BM On Thu, 2004-08-05 at 14:22:15, Zonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ON Thursday, August 5, 2004, 5:56:21 PM, you wrote:
PH In TheBat 2.10, is there away to harvest all sender email
PH addresses (i.e, the entire From: line)
PH to an external file?

 Hi Pete,

 There are a few ways to do this.

 One is to write a filter that add the name to an address book when they
 arrive. YOu can export these later to a CSV file which you can read into a
 spreadsheet or word processor or... etc.

BM The question (IMHO) asks about multiple From addresses in a single message, not
BM multiple messages in a folder.

Sorry to be ambiguous. What I want is to harvest each From address from
a group of email messages. 

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Re: Folder Views

2004-08-06 Thread Richard Wakeford
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Hello Joseph,

On Fri, 6 Aug 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

JN From instead of Created--the other folders also switch.
JN I want this folder not to be using, or influencing, my default setup.
JN How can I do this?

I think that's still on the wish list but would very much like to be
told I'm wrong.

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BayesIT Crashing TB - was Re: Limiting BayesIt to scan only unknown mail

2004-08-06 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Barry,

Friday, August 6, 2004, 8:53:06 AM, you wrote:
BW Sorry I should not have used the term GPF. I'm experiencing the
BW same as you. Thanks for your reply, it's worse when your the only
BW one with the problem!

No problem. My guess is it has to do with either the order it's added,
or a conflict with another plugin. If I can find some time, I'll
remove all my other plugins and add that one by itself, and then add
in the others one at a time.




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Re: The Bat!: Email program or Toy?

2004-08-06 Thread Jan Rifkinson
On Friday, August 06, 2004 it appears that Darrin Rich 
wrote the following in regards to The Bat!:  Email program or Toy?:

DR [snip] I enjoy seeing the
DR faces of people here in the forum, adds a nice personal touch to it I
DR think. Of course, just my opinion. [/snip]

... as was mine, my opinion.

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Re: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??

2004-08-06 Thread Bill McQuillan

On Fri, 2004-08-06 at 00:59:05, Zonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I assumed that the multiple From addresses was I typo.
 Think about it. How can I child have multiple fathers? oops

It is quite easy for a message to have multiple authors. This is what the From: 
header field is intended to show. In fact, one of the uses of the Sender: header 
field is to show the actual, single sender of the message when there are multiple 
From: addresses. (It mystifies me why The Bat! chose to rename this standard field to 
X-Sender:.)

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Re: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??

2004-08-06 Thread Jan Rifkinson
On Friday, August 06, 2004 it appears that Pete Holsberg wrote the
following in regards to Harvest Sender Email Addresses??:

 One is to write a filter that add the name to an address book when they
 arrive. YOu can export these later to a CSV file which you can read into a
 spreadsheet or word processor or... etc.

BM The question (IMHO) asks about multiple From addresses in a single message, not
BM multiple messages in a folder.

PH Sorry to be ambiguous. What I want is to harvest each From address from
PH a group of email messages. 

Hi Pete.

  I may not understand what you want either but have you looked @
  filters | actions | Add address(es) to Address Book

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Re: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??

2004-08-06 Thread Zonnet

ON Friday, August 6, 2004, 5:27:55 PM, you wrote:
PH Sorry to be ambiguous. What I want is to harvest each From address from
PH a group of email messages. 

Hi Pete,

I guessed as much, so all those options I gave you will work.
I have used them myself.

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Re: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??

2004-08-06 Thread Zonnet

ON Friday, August 6, 2004, 6:38:43 PM, you wrote:
BM It is quite easy for a message to have multiple authors. This is
BM what the From: header field is intended to show. In fact, one of the
BM uses of the Sender: header field is to show the actual, single
BM sender of the message when there are multiple From: addresses. (It
BM mystifies me why The Bat! chose to rename this standard field to
BM X-Sender:.)

Hi Bill,

I have never seen a msg with multiple address in the From: field.
Maybe you could send one to demonstrate?

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Re: Limiting BayesIt to scan only unknown mail

2004-08-06 Thread Zonnet

ON Friday, August 6, 2004, 4:35:52 PM, you wrote:


LG I don't get a GPF, but right after adding the plugin and I click OK,
LG it crashes TB, when I reopen it, it wasn't added.


Hi Leif,

I installed the plug-in as I do TB, I copied the new files over the old
files. It now shows the new plug-in in the preferences with out any
further action.

I did not do a un-install and a install.

Hope this helps.

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Re[2]: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??

2004-08-06 Thread Pete Holsberg
Friday, August 6, 2004, 12:48:46 PM, you wrote:

JR On Friday, August 06, 2004 it appears that Pete Holsberg wrote the
JR following in regards to Harvest Sender Email Addresses??:

 One is to write a filter that add the name to an address book when they
 arrive. YOu can export these later to a CSV file which you can read into a
 spreadsheet or word processor or... etc.

BM The question (IMHO) asks about multiple From addresses in a single message, not
BM multiple messages in a folder.

PH Sorry to be ambiguous. What I want is to harvest each From address from
PH a group of email messages. 

JR Hi Pete.

JR   I may not understand what you want either but have you looked @
JR   filters | actions | Add address(es) to Address Book


I have a folder full of email messages.

I would like to -- automagically, extract from each message the email address of
the sender and append it to a text file in a specified directory.

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Re: Limiting BayesIt to scan only unknown mail

2004-08-06 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Zonnet,

Friday, August 6, 2004, 1:31:16 PM, you wrote:
Z I installed the plug-in as I do TB, I copied the new files over the
Z old files. It now shows the new plug-in in the preferences with out
Z any further action.

So you installed an older version and then overwrote it with the new?




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Re: Limiting BayesIt to scan only unknown mail

2004-08-06 Thread Zonnet

ON Friday, August 6, 2004, 9:47:22 PM, you wrote:
LG So you installed an older version and then overwrote it with the new?

I had an old version installed (I believe 0.5.4) which came with my
current version of TB and I overwrote that one with the new 0.5.9

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Re: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??

2004-08-06 Thread Zonnet

ON Friday, August 6, 2004, 9:45:10 PM, you wrote:
PH I have a folder full of email messages.

PH I would like to -- automagically, extract from each message the email address of
PH the sender and append it to a text file in a specified directory.

Hi Pete,

Try this filter. It is set to manual and you have to point it at the right
directory and create the appropriate address book(mine is called auto).
Then use refilter / manual in the directory and you will have a address
book with all the e-mail addresses. The export the address book to plain
text and your done.

BeginFilter
Name: Auto add
Active: 1
Source: \\IPS\Inbox\Direct Mails
Target: \\IPSR\Inbox\Direct Mails
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: 00@
Actions: faAddAddress,faoManualOnly,faoAdvAddressOut
AddGroups: Auto
DelGroups: 
ForwardTemplate: 
ConfirmTemplate: 
ReplyTemplate: 
FwdAddr: 
RedirectAddr: 
NewAddr: 
NewTemplate: 
ExtCmd: 
ExtFile: 
ExtractDir: 
ColourGroup: default
AddAddrItems: afiFrom,
DelAddrItems: afiFrom,
HotKey: 0
IsOfColour: default
SizeBigger: 0
SizeSmaller: 0
AgeOlder: 0
AgeNewer: 0
InAddrPos: 0
OutAddrPos: 0
InAddrGroups: 
NoAddrGroups: Auto
KillFile: 
KillMethod: 0
SaveTemplate: 
SndFile: 
SysSound: 0
SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
EndFilter


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Re: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??

2004-08-06 Thread Jan Rifkinson
On Friday, August 06, 2004 it appears that Pete Holsberg 
wrote the following in regards to Harvest Sender Email Addresses??:

JR   I may not understand what you want either but have you looked @
JR   filters | actions | Add address(es) to Address Book

PH I have a folder full of email messages.

PH I would like to -- automagically, extract from each message the email address of
PH the sender and append it to a text file in a specified directory.

Hi Pete. I assume all msgs have been read.

  Open Sorting office Filters
  Click on 'Read' Messages
  Click 'New' give your filter a name
  At strings add @ w/o quotes so it selects any sender
  Under Actions Tab select Add address to Address Book
  Select 'Sender (from)' it's the default I think
  Add to Groups create a dummy group to add these names to
  Under Options Tab
  Select Execute action set of this rule by pressing the Hot Key
  add your hot key(s) of choice
  Click Close
  Select all messages in folder
  Run filter via short cut keys
  Export to address list (plain text)
  Name it  Ssve it to your desktop or wherever

  That should do it for you. If not, maybe someone else will have
  a better idea.

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Re: BayesIT whitelist errors and questions

2004-08-06 Thread Lourdes Jones
Hello Michael,

Friday, August 6, 2004, 12:42:30 AM, you wrote:
 I have created a few whitelist items for BayesIT 0.5.9.  When I go
 back to the config, I see that they have errors.  All I am told is
 that there are syntax errors and that I must fix them.

Current version is 0.5.10

 I do not get an error if I choose any and contains and the
 email address, but this is not very specific and allows spam holes, I
 think.

I'd suggest you use To along with contains if you are attempting
to white list based on a bare address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) rather than a fancy
name (Full Name [EMAIL PROTECTED])

For example in this email the To field contains the string
   Michael L. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

So comparing [EMAIL PROTECTED] with equals would fail (it's
only a subset not the whole field).

 So, please explain the options and the proper syntax.

Rather self evident to me but perhaps I'm just really, really odd.
Forgive me if I misunderstand what you are missing.  quick step by
step.

1) select the field for comparison (I hope these are obvious).

2 a) select the type of comparison:

Contains = this string is a subset of what is in the field.
Basically it's in there, somewhere :)
(usually the best option when matching bare email addresses)

Starts = refinement of contains except it must be at the beginning of
the field.

Ends = refinement of contains except it must be at the end of the
field.

Matches = successful regex comparison of the field contents (only use
this if you really know regex)

Equals = successful string comparison of the field contents (will not
be successful if there is any addition content in the field)

Not Contains = this string is not found anywhere in the field.

Not starts = refinement of not contains except it must not be at the
beginning of the field.

Not ends = refinement of not contains except it must not be at the end
of the field.

Not matches = failed regex comparison of the field contents. (only use
this if you really know regex)

Not equals = failed string comparison of the field contents.

2 b) determine if the comparison is case sensitive (case) or not case
sensitive (nocase).

3) specify the string that will be compared

4 a) name the rule (the display name that will be shown)

4 b) activate (or disable) the rule


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Re[2]: Limiting BayesIt to scan only unknown mail

2004-08-06 Thread Pete Holsberg
Friday, August 6, 2004, 4:04:43 PM, you wrote:


Z ON Friday, August 6, 2004, 9:47:22 PM, you wrote:
LG So you installed an older version and then overwrote it with the new?

Z I had an old version installed (I believe 0.5.4) which came with my
Z current version of TB and I overwrote that one with the new 0.5.9


How do you set up white- and blacklists?

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Re: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??

2004-08-06 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Bill,

On Fri, 6 Aug 2004 09:38:43 -0700GMT (6-8-2004, 18:38 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

BM It is quite easy for a message to have multiple authors. This is
BM what the From: header field is intended to show. In fact, one of
BM the uses of the Sender: header field is to show the actual,
BM single sender of the message when there are multiple From:
BM addresses. (It mystifies me why The Bat! chose to rename this
BM standard field to X-Sender:.)

It's even worse than that. When you send a message with multiple from
addresses, TB includes neither Sender nor X-Sender header.

That's not quite according to RFC2822.

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Re: selective quoting

2004-08-06 Thread Jan Rifkinson
On Friday, August 06, 2004 it appears that rich gregory 
wrote the following in regards to selective quoting:

rg Can't I highlight text in a received mssg then choose to forward to
rg reply to it and only have the highlight text quoted, with the rest of
rg the original email ignored?

yes. F4

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Re: selective quoting

2004-08-06 Thread Darrin Rich
Hi rich,
On 8/6/2004 4:38 PM my time, rich wrote:
rg Can't I highlight text in a received mssg then choose to forward to
rg reply to it and only have the highlight text quoted


Highlight the text and hit the F4 key.
 
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Re: Addressing email

2004-08-06 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo rich,

On Fri, 6 Aug 2004 19:30:13 -0400GMT (7-8-2004, 1:30 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

RG I'd expect that, once the email address field has been populated with
RG the 1st address, it (the TO: line) would recognize a comma character
RG to mean that the now populated field is already correct and that I am
RG 1) not trying to create an illegal email address and 2) ready to add
RG the next address.

That might depend on the macro you're using.

However, as I generally don't use handles, I tried something for you
(with the latest beta though, since you only mentioned an older version
I couldn't install exactly the same version)

I created three AB entries with handles.
Created a new message,
Entered two handles in the To: header
Went to another header
Went back to the To header
Added a comma a space and another handle
Left the To header
TB inserted the complete address

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Re: Stupid-anyone else do this :)

2004-08-06 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Darrin,

On Fri, 6 Aug 2004 16:42:51 -0700GMT (7-8-2004, 1:42 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

DR   Im so use to highlighting reply emails and pressing F4 with the bat,
DR   that I find my self doing this in forums.

Happens to the best of us. When I want to send an email at work (using
MS Outlook) I often press F2 when I'm finished, probably since I'm
using two programs that use that key for sending.

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Re: Stupid-anyone else do this :)

2004-08-06 Thread Darrin Rich
Hi Roelof,
On 8/6/2004 4:51 PM my time, Roelof wrote:
RO When I want to send an email at work (using
RO MS Outlook) I often press F2 when I'm finished, probably since I'm
RO using two programs that use that key for sending.


Oh good Roelof, At least Its not just me :P
 
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Editing task bar

2004-08-06 Thread Sharyn Hutchens
I checked the help topics and can't find it, so I have a bad feeling about it, 
but...is there a way to edit the task bar in The Bat?  Specifically, I'd like to 
remove the SEND NOW button and change the order of some of the others.

Thanks!

Sharyn

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Re: Editing task bar

2004-08-06 Thread Allie Martin
Sharyn Hutchens, [SH] wrote:

 I checked the help topics and can't find it, so I have a bad
 feeling about it, but...is there a way to edit the task bar in The
 Bat?  Specifically, I'd like to remove the SEND NOW button and
 change the order of some of the others.

At the moment ... no.

There are plans for customizable toolbars but that is yet to be
implemented.

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Re[2]: The Bat!: Email program or Toy?

2004-08-06 Thread Munango-Keewati
On Friday, August 6, 2004, 3:33:40 AM, you wrote:

 On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 14:21:06 -0700, Darrin Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

The mail management of M2 along with
the macros and customization of TB.

 Add to that the news functionality of Forte Agent, and I'm a first-off
 user.
 I feel I should add I'd rather see TB getting developed as a tool, and
 not as a toy in the sense of the lately added smileys and rogues. It's
 more useful to put efforts into solving existing problems than to add
 playful functionality, which only adds to the complexity of the sw and
 distract from the essence of e-mail, especially for the professional
 user. A solid and (virtually) bug-free mail client might even attract
 more corporate users then there are now.

 Just my 2 cts...

Agreed



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Re: Editing task bar

2004-08-06 Thread Maxim Ryazanov
On Friday, 6 Aug 2004 22:07 [-0400], Sharyn Hutchens wrote:

SH I checked the help topics and can't find it, so I have a bad feeling
SH about it, but...is there a way to edit the task bar in The Bat?
..

As Allie already wrote, this feature was announced for beta development:

| http://www.mail-archive.com/tbbeta%40thebat.dutaint.com/msg45124.html
| From: 9Val 9Val%ritlabs.com
| Subject: The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/1 is now available
| Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 20:54:25 +0300
| ..
| BTW, this version will introduce UI improvements, so you can ask Robo
| everything you want to know about new headers control and customization
| of toolbars.
| ..

And btw another nice place to search through in such situations  a RIT`s
Bugs/Wishes-tracker, there for sure would be some requests or discussions
for the case:

| https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=928
| Date Submitted: 21 May 2002
| Summary: Allow user to customize the toolbar
| Status: new

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Re: Archiving Messages

2004-08-06 Thread Chris
 IMO there are two best ways to go.  One is to export the 
 messages to a Unix-style mailbox.  Tools/Export/Unix.  That is a 
 stable format that can be imported by many programs, including TB! 
 and Thunderbird.  The advantage of this route is that the mail 
 sits on your computer ready to be used if necessary but otherwise 
 out of the way in a multi-vendor format that is likely to be 
 accessible into the near future.  The other approach is to use an 
 e-mail archiving program, such as Mailbag Assistant.

Hi Joseph,

Thanks for the reply. I would prefer to go with option 1. From what I can see, I 
export the messages to a file, then go into The Bat!  delete the messages  accounts 
I've exported,  then at a later date, I can just import them again? The only problem 
I can see with this is that the export command doesn't seem to work directly on 
folders or accounts. Instead, you have to go into each folder separately, highlight 
every message, then export. As well as taking a long time with lots of folders to 
export, this wouldn't keep the folder structure that I have now. Do I have this right?

Thanks,

Chris




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