Re: selective quoting
On Saturday, August 7, 2004 @ 7:44:09 AM, Darrin Rich wrote: [snips] rg Can't I highlight text in a received mssg then choose to forward to rg reply to it and only have the highlight text quoted Darrin Highlight the text and hit the F4 key. Can this be done from a message opened from the message ticker? I've tried to find the shortcut to change and no joy :-( -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) Don't dwell on what went wrong. Instead, focus on what to do next. Spend your energies on moving forward toward finding the answer. Denis Waitley Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailserver
Hello Gunivortus, On 7 Aug 2004 at 10:31:19 +0200 GMT [10:31 CEST] you wrote: GG Hi, GG wanna start with some experiments, using TB (2.13.b3) as GG mailserver, but forgot if I installed it as Server. GG Where can I check that? Options-NetworkAdministration-This machine is.. -- Cheers, Andre Wir würden vor dem Glühwürmchen ebenso ehrfürchtig stehen wie vor der Sonne, wenn wir nicht an unsere Vorstellungen von Gewicht und Maß so gebunden wären. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIt filtering: Spam error high
Hello Peter Kerekes, 08-Aug-2004 00:21, you wrote: Need some help to improve on Spam filtering. Forgive me the stupid question, but do you actually train the BayesIt filter if it has a false negative? (right click on the mail, Special, Mark as Junk). Can anyone suggest a change in any settings to improve filtration? Have you trained the BayesIt filter by importing a large Spam database? I found its accuracy dropped when I did that. I only used my Spam for training BayesIt, and its accuracy was much higher. -- Best regards, Alexander No one listens until you make a mistake. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIt filtering: Spam error high
A Have you trained the BayesIt filter by importing a large Spam database? I A found its accuracy dropped when I did that. I only used my Spam for A training BayesIt, and its accuracy was much higher. If you've trained BayesIt once, can you untrain it a train it afresh? -- Cheers Yall \\' Between saying and doing, many a pair of shoes is worn out. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIt filtering: Spam error high
Some time around 08/07/2004 18:21:10, I think I heard Peter Kerekes say: !SNIP! I haven't much clue what the lines in advance.ini do and therefore do not want to experiment with it. Can anyone suggest a change in any settings to improve filtration? Advance.ini file: working thread priority=2 onexit thread priority=3 selective download spam threshold=10 export selective download=1 simple digits spam marks=1 no spaces spam marks=1 limit size to hash=19 limit size to hash header=96 temporary dictionary=c:\\temp use expiration=0 age to expirate=100 learn from zero=1 max size of log file=131072 recalculating strategy=3 regarding threshold=1.5 use autotrain=1 use degeneration=1 number of exclamations=5 !SNIP! Hello: I've been looking for a while on help tuning my BayesIt installation, but I can't seem to find much help, even though I search the archives of this list and the web. I used to use PopFile and became pretty proficient at tuning it, even editing the corpus by hand, but even though I find BayesIt much more competent (and accurate), I don't seem to understand much of its advanced features. I've read from many that the new Advanced.ini file contains comments from the developer explaining the various options, but mine (v5.5) does not. The only help available from the BayesIt site is outdated and refers to an updated version in the RitLabs page, but its in Russian, which I cannot read. So, with the help of the fish (the Babelfish, that is), an online Russian-English dictionary, and a bit of deductive reasoning, I was able to translate it as best as I could. It helped me a bit, so I thought it might help others too. Still, some explanations are a bit too technical, and they could use some finessing, so if anybody can help further, I (and others, I'm sure) will appreciate it inmensely. Technical or not, its still more understandable to us non-russian speaking people. ;working thread priority (2) ;Determines the priority of the base retraining process. ;Retraining is carried out by the filter in the background mode ;and it is usually imperceptible to the user. By default, the ;value of this parameter (2) corresponds to the system parameter ;THREAD_PRIORITY_LOWEST. ;onexit thread priority (3) ;If, during the retraining process, the user clicked on the exit ;button in The Bat!, the retraining process will acquire the ;indicated priority. Usually, it is higher than normal. This is ;necessary so that the filter notifies the current retraining ;operation as soon as possible when it is safe to interrupt the ;process without risk of losing important data. By default, the ;value of this parameter (3) corresponds to the system parameter ;TRHEAD_PRIORITY_NORMAL. ;export selective download (1) ;When defined, the filter will export the collection of trigger ;lines for the selective download filter. If the parameter is set ;to 1, then the filter will create the file selective.txt in ;the working folder, which will contain the constantly updated ;list of regular expressions encountered in the headers of ;spam-messages. If this parameter is set to 0, then no lists of ;lines will be exported. ;selective download spam threshold (10) ;Determines with what frequency any one token must appear in the ;headers of spam messages in order for it to be included in the ;file selective.txt (see the previous parameter). It is ;recommended that this number is computed so that the size of the ;file selective.txt would not exceed 40Kb-50Kb. With larger lists ;of trigger lines, The Bat! becomes unstable. Words are selected ;into the file selective.txt based on the following criteria: the ;word must exist in the headers of the message and must never be ;encountered in the headers of non-spam messages, and has been ;encountered n number of times in the headers of spam messages; ;where n corresponds to the discussed parameter. ;simple digits spam marks (1) ;Allows html-comments in the messages of the form !--2345-- ;(i.e. consisting of some numbers) to be treated as special ;generalized technical tokens. Since such headers are encountered ;in essence in spam messages, this special token can ;substantially help during the analysis of some messages. ;no spaces spam marks (1) ;Is analogous to the previous parameter; however, it treats as ;special tokens not only numerical comments, but any comment ;which does not contain whitespace. ;limit size to hash (19) ;Allows you to assign a maximum length to the words which will be ;stored in the base unchanged. If any word exceeds the assigned ;length (for example, a pgp-signature), then it will be ;automatically encoded into a hash and saved in the base in its ;original form. ;limit size to hash header (96) ;Assigns a similar length to the tokens from
Re: selective quoting
Some time around 08/07/2004 17:19:30, I think I heard Jan Rifkinson say: rg May I suggest that if text in a received email is highlighted and then rg a reply is initiated that it should be assumed that the reply is meant rg to perform this F4 function by default? huh? e... I think that's what happens now. You mean, now as in v2.13, the version you are using? Because at least on my version, v2.12, it does not do that; you still have to hit F4. I think that what the poster was suggesting is the behaviour found in Eudora, where any standard operation on an opened message (i.e. reply, forward, redirect, etc.) when text is selected, will quote and include only the selected text. Eudora offers this as an option in its configuration. Maybe TB! could do the same? :) dZ. -- Powered by The Bat! v.2.12.00, Hindered by MS Windows 2000 v.5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: selective quoting
Hello DZ-Jay, On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 09:33:48 -0400 GMT (08/08/2004, 20:33 +0700 GMT), DZ-Jay wrote: rg May I suggest that if text in a received email is highlighted and then rg a reply is initiated that it should be assumed that the reply is meant rg to perform this F4 function by default? huh? e... I think that's what happens now. DJ You mean, now as in v2.13, the version you are using? DJ Because at least on my version, v2.12, it does not do that; you DJ still have to hit F4. You will have to tell TB somehow that you want to create a reply; the alternative is that a reply will be automtically created (editor window opened) when you release the mouse button after highlighting. That can cause problems, as you want to finetune the quotation. DJ I think that what the poster was suggesting is the behaviour found DJ in Eudora, where any standard operation on an opened message (i.e. DJ reply, forward, redirect, etc.) when text is selected, will quote DJ and include only the selected text. I don't understand what you are saying. OK, so in Eudora, you select text in an incoming message. But then you will have to tell Eudora what to do with the selection: reply, forward, redirect? DJ Eudora offers this as an option in its configuration. Maybe TB! DJ could do the same? :) I think TB does it, doesn't it? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Alexander Strehmel (Unterhaching): Gerade in einem Spiel, wo die Nerven blank liegen, muss man sein wahres Gesicht zeigen und die Hosen runterlassen. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12.02 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: selective quoting
Some time around 08/08/2004 10:38:52, I think I heard Thomas Fernandez say: DJ You mean, now as in v2.13, the version you are using? DJ Because at least on my version, v2.12, it does not do that; you DJ still have to hit F4. You will have to tell TB somehow that you want to create a reply; the alternative is that a reply will be automtically created (editor window opened) when you release the mouse button after highlighting. That can cause problems, as you want to finetune the quotation. Hum... I see that you do not understand what I am saying. Let me give you an example, and for convenience's sake, I will use Eudora, which offers the feature we are discussing: In Eudora, I can check an option in the configurations that will allow selective-quoting when replying or forwarding. So the following occurs: 1. I open a message to read it. 2. I select a relevant piece of the text 3. I hit the *standard* reply or forward buttons, *not* a special hot-key, or other function, but the regular buttons. 4. Eudora will create a new message, like normal, but instead of quoting the entire text, it will quote and include *only* the selected text. The difference in TB! is that hitting the Reply/Forward/Redirect/Reply-to-All buttons while selecting text will result in TB! replying/forwarding/redirecting/etc. the message with the ENTIRE text quoted, as normal; and in order to invoke selective-quoting you have to use a *special* function, the F4 hot-key. This is fine, but what we are requesting is a feature (optional, of course) that you can automatically have this F4 behaviour occur with the normal reply/fwd/redir buttons. I don't understand what you are saying. OK, so in Eudora, you select text in an incoming message. But then you will have to tell Eudora what to do with the selection: reply, forward, redirect? You tell it by clicking the normal reply/forward/redirect buttons. But with the configuration option, you have told Eudora that *ANY* message operation (reply/fwd/redir/etc.) will invoke selective-quoting by default. See above comment. DJ Eudora offers this as an option in its configuration. Maybe TB! DJ could do the same? :) I think TB does it, doesn't it? It does offer selective-quoting, but as a special function, initiated by the F4 hot-key, not integrated with the normal reply/fwd/redir buttons, which is what we are requesting. I hope this clears it up a bit. :) dZ. -- Powered by The Bat! v.2.12.00, Hindered by MS Windows 2000 v.5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Help With Filter
Saturday, August 7, 2004, 11:15:51 PM, you wrote: BM On Sat 7-Aug-04 6:02pm -0400, Pete Holsberg wrote: I'm having trouble with a filter. Perhaps someone can spot my error. BM I've not tested your filter with refilter. I used it with your BM hotkey. It appears to work fine with the minor modifications I BM mention below. To test the filter, did you select a folder before hitting the hot key combo? Did you select any messages? Rule Source: Inbox\04-01 Move messages to folder: Inbox\04-01A BM Using the hotkey, leave these at their defaults. How does the filter know which folder to filter? Filtering strings: StringsFrom: Location Sender Presence Yes BM There's no need, with hotkeys, to add a filter for your harvesting BM action. I don't understand. Without a filter, how do I copy the email address of each sender to a specific group of an address book? Active - checked Manual only - not checked BM Check Manual also. Why? Actions --- Add addresses to Address Book Items: Sender (From) Add tp groups: taskvols (this is a folder in the Personal AB) Options --- Regex is checked BM Why? I had this from an earlier attempt when I was trying to write a regex for the filter string. Execute on CTRL-SH-F12 (Nothing else is checked) BM Check This rule is executed only by pressing the hotkey I close this, go to the Inbox\04-01, click Folder Re-filter. It says that it filtered N messages, but when I look at the AB, nothing has been added. BM If you actually want to process all the mail in a folder, just use BM ctrl-a to select all before your hotkey. The normal use, however, BM would be to press your hotkey on a message whose sender you want added BM to your AB. The whole point is to grab ALL the from addresses from ALL the messages in a folder. Thanks. -- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: problem of background color in the sorted column of messages list !
Wilwilwil, [W] wrote: I've seen on the computer of a friend of mine that his version of The Bat has a great feature : He has a background color set on the column used for sorting messages list. If he clicks on From to sort on sender, the background color of the column From become grey. And it's real for each column he wants to sort on. I ask him to know how he had set this. He said me nothing, It was by default. This is true. There's no specific setting that I know of to adjust the colour of the starting column. It would seem that it's another of the systems colour schemes colours that is used or a derivative of it. I just changed the window colour and the sorted columns colour was changed to one that's just a little darker than the colour I chose for the Window. -- Allie Martin [List Moderator and fellow end-user] The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/3 on WinXP Pro (SP1) . (This tagline in Stereo where available) pgpq6HAqL2kJE.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
VF's - just got it
Finally figured out what these things are good for. Searched TBUDL for mymacros (yeah I'm having difficulty using the new %SmartQuotes also) and the result list offered me the option of porting the list to a VF and create an automatic filter for it. So, I now have a VF on that topic (and a couple others now). Great idea! -- DanG `When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.' (dropped by The Bat, version 2.13 Lucky Beta/3) MyMacros 1.11a Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
MyMacros - getting it
So, since I read everyone else's stuff on the new MyMacros, particularly re %SmartQuotes, I figured this out. When I reply to a message, if there is something in the quoted section that is extraneous, I copy it, got to the plugins configure window for MyMacros, paste those lines in either hello word or goodbye words and, poof, they don't show up in the quoted text anymore. e.g., I use Nod (which I recommend highly), which puts that comforting blurb at the bottom of any message that comes in: __ NOD32 1.834 (20040804) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com So, I put it in Goodbye words and it doesn't get quoted anymore. Thank you, Andrew! -- DanG `When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.' (dropped by The Bat, version 2.13 Lucky Beta/3) MyMacros 1.11a Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: selective quoting
Hello DZ-Jay, On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 12:14:10 -0400 GMT (08/08/2004, 23:14 +0700 GMT), DZ-Jay wrote: DJ 3. I hit the *standard* reply or forward buttons, *not* a DJ special hot-key, or other function, but the regular buttons. I see. The mouse approach, didn't think about that. You are right, the toolbars are not configurable in that way in TB. Rumours have it that this is being worked upon, but don't hold your breath. DJ I hope this clears it up a bit. :) It did. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Thursday at 5:00 PM there will be a meeting of the Ladies Little Mothers Club. All wishing to become little mothers, please see the minister in his study. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12.02 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help With Filter
On Sun 8-Aug-04 11:30am -0400, Pete Holsberg wrote: Saturday, August 7, 2004, 11:15:51 PM, you wrote: On Sat 7-Aug-04 6:02pm -0400, Pete Holsberg wrote: I'm having trouble with a filter. Perhaps someone can spot my error. I've not tested your filter with refilter. I used it with your hotkey. It appears to work fine with the minor modifications I mention below. To test the filter, did you select a folder before hitting the hot key combo? Did you select any messages? Yes, I selected the message(s) I wanted to harvest and hit the hotkey. Rule Source: Inbox\04-01 Move messages to folder: Inbox\04-01A Using the hotkey, leave these at their defaults. How does the filter know which folder to filter? It only filters selected messages. If you actually need to filter an entire folder, click on any message followed by Ctrl-a (select all) before pressing the hotkey. Filtering strings: StringsFrom: Location Sender Presence Yes There's no need, with hotkeys, to add a filter for your harvesting action. I don't understand. Without a filter, how do I copy the email address of each sender to a specific group of an address book? You do need a filter. You don't need re-filter. The hotkey activates your filter. Active - checked Manual only - not checked Check Manual also. Why? To use your hotkey. I close this, go to the Inbox\04-01, click Folder Re-filter. It says that it filtered N messages, but when I look at the AB, nothing has been added. If you actually want to process all the mail in a folder, just use ctrl-a to select all before your hotkey. The normal use, however, would be to press your hotkey on a message whose sender you want added to your AB. The whole point is to grab ALL the from addresses from ALL the messages in a folder. Hmm, by your inclusion of a hotkey, I assumed you normal use was to select the messages and hit the hotkey - that's how I use a similar filter. It's a simple matter to select all messages in a folder then press the hotkey it the rare (in my case) need to do so. This approach involves to message movement and no rule is required. -- Best regards, Bill Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??
ON Saturday, August 7, 2004, 10:01:01 PM, you wrote: PH Cool! Where do I put this? It doesn't seem to fit the point-and-click PH filter creation in TB. PH Thanks. Pete, Copy the filter with CTRL-C from BeginFilter to EndFilter Go to sorting office and select read messages. Press CTRL-V and prest a new filter appears named Auto. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Two balls in the water. By God, I've got a good mind to jump in and make it four! Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??
ON Saturday, August 7, 2004, 10:27:58 AM, you wrote: BM I had to insert the Sender: header field manually (as X-Sender!) and BM I had to save the message into the Outbox to get the Bat! to let me BM put my address into the Sender: field. Well Bill, You have proven it to be technically possible to do this but I do not see the value of multiple addresses in the From: field. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Equipment - According to the rules of golf, equipment is anything that can be thrown, broken, kicked, twisted, torn, crushed, shredded or mangled; or propelled, driven or directed, either under its own power or by means of a transfer of momentum, into underbrush, trees or other overgrown terrain; or over the edge of a natural or artificially elevated area; or below the surface of any body of water, whether moving or impounded. Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Messages lacking In-Reply-To: header and not threading (Was: Re: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??)
Zonnet, [Z] wrote: You have proven it to be technically possible to do this but I do not see the value of multiple addresses in the From: field. I've noted that your messages are not threading. Upon checking, they seem to lack the In-Reply-To: header which should contain the id of the message that you're replying to. I wonder where that header is disappearing to? Are you using TB!? If so, then something is deleting that header. -- Allie Martin [List Moderator and fellow end-user] The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/3 on WinXP Pro (SP1) . Fer sell cheep: IBM spel chekker. Wurks grate. pgpbN7U8h6RZM.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??
On Friday, August 06, 2004 it appears that Pete Holsberg wrote the following in regards to Harvest Sender Email Addresses??: JR I may not understand what you want either but have you looked @ JR filters | actions | Add address(es) to Address Book PH I have a folder full of email messages. PH I would like to -- automagically, extract from each message the email address of PH the sender and append it to a text file in a specified directory. Hi Pete. I assume all msgs have been read. Open Sorting office Filters Click on 'Read' Messages Click 'New' give your filter a name At strings add @ w/o quotes so it selects any sender Under Actions Tab select Add address to Address Book Select 'Sender (from)' it's the default I think Add to Groups create a dummy group to add these names to Under Options Tab Select Execute action set of this rule by pressing the Hot Key add your hot key(s) of choice Click Close Select all messages in folder Run filter via short cut keys Export to address list (plain text) Name it Ssve it to your desktop or wherever That should do it for you. If not, maybe someone else will have a better idea. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 Lucky Beta/2 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Help With Filter
Sunday, August 8, 2004, 1:57:25 PM, you wrote: There's no need, with hotkeys, to add a filter for your harvesting action. I don't understand. Without a filter, how do I copy the email address of each sender to a specific group of an address book? BM You do need a filter. You don't need re-filter. The hotkey activates BM your filter. So why did you say that I don't need to add a filter Thanks. -- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??
On Saturday, August 07, 2004 it appears that Pete Holsberg wrote the following in regards to Harvest Sender Email Addresses??: PH Addressbook group did not get any additions. PH Seems like it should work but nothing happens. PH ??? Here's a copy of my filter which worked. except for one little thing: the msgs in the folder were moved/deleted somewhere... I'm not sure yet *but* the addresses were harvested. Rule= Active Manual only = true Options Tab Execute action check selected msgs against rule this rule is executed by pressing hotkey BeginFilter Name: test Active: 1 Source: \\SNET \Inbox Target: \\SNET \Inbox CopyFolder: none MainSet: 00@ Actions: faAddAddress,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoHKCheckMsg,faoHotKeyOnly AddGroups: test DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: NewTemplate: ExtCmd: ExtFile: ExtractDir: ColourGroup: default AddAddrItems: afiFrom, DelAddrItems: afiFrom, HotKey: 123 IsOfColour: default SizeBigger: 0 SizeSmaller: 0 AgeOlder: 0 AgeNewer: 0 InAddrPos: 0 OutAddrPos: 0 InAddrGroups: NoAddrGroups: KillFile: KillMethod: 0 SaveTemplate: SndFile: SysSound: 0 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00 EndFilter Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help With Filter
On Sun 8-Aug-04 1:56pm -0400, Pete Holsberg wrote: Sunday, August 8, 2004, 1:57:25 PM, you wrote: There's no need, with hotkeys, to add a filter for your harvesting action. I don't understand. Without a filter, how do I copy the email address of each sender to a specific group of an address book? You do need a filter. You don't need re-filter. The hotkey activates your filter. So why did you say that I don't need to add a filter I was responding to the part you didn't quote which was: Filtering strings: StringsFrom: Location Sender Presence Yes Clearly, so I thought, by adding a filter I meant to say adding a **Filtering string**. Sorry for the confusion. -- Best regards, Bill Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: selective quoting
Some time around 08/08/2004 15:01:43, I think I heard rich gregory say: hy an option? Let's look at it this way... Is there ever any time that you might 1) highlight part of a message then 2) hit either forward or reply and NOT want to include anything other than what you've highlighted? I agree, but that's just me... and probably you and a few others. Since TB! prides itself in being the best of breeds to many, and offering some outstanding advanced customizations, I imagined that it would be in the best interest of all to provide it as an option. dZ. -- Powered by The Bat! v.2.12.00, Hindered by MS Windows 2000 v.5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: problem of background color in the sorted column of messages list !
==Original message text=== From: Allie Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Wilwilwil on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, August 8, 2004, 7:28:06 PM Subject: problem of background color in the sorted column of messages list ! AM Wilwilwil, [W] wrote: I've seen on the computer of a friend of mine that his version of The Bat has a great feature : He has a background color set on the column used for sorting messages list. If he clicks on From to sort on sender, the background color of the column From become grey. And it's real for each column he wants to sort on. I ask him to know how he had set this. He said me nothing, It was by default. AM This is true. There's no specific setting that I know of to adjust the AM colour of the starting column. It would seem that it's another of the AM systems colour schemes colours that is used or a derivative of it. AM I just changed the window colour and the sorted columns colour was AM changed to one that's just a little darker than the colour I chose for AM the Window. ===End of original message text=== I try all set of colors of windows, and nothing changes... :-( -- WilWilWil [EMAIL PROTECTED] TB 2.12.00 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages lacking In-Reply-To: header and not threading (Was: Re: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??)
Hallo Allie, On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 13:31:18 -0500GMT (8-8-2004, 20:31 +0200, where I live), you wrote: AM I've noted that your messages are not threading. Upon checking, they AM seem to lack the In-Reply-To: header which should contain the id of AM the message that you're replying to. Gerard's messages do contain the references header, that should be enough for threading. (It is over here.) -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/3 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages lacking In-Reply-To: header and not threading (Was: Re: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??)
Hi Roelof Otten - On Sun, 8 Aug 2004, at 23:49:11 [GMT +0200] (which was 2:49 PM where I live) you wrote: AM I've noted that your messages are not threading. Upon checking, they AM seem to lack the In-Reply-To: header which should contain the id of AM the message that you're replying to. Gerard's messages do contain the references header, that should be enough for threading. (It is over here.) Strangely enough, I see the reference headers in Gerard's message but not In-Reply-To header and his messages do not thread on my system either. -- Best Regards, Kevin Using The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgpzhfLgkn0ZN.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages lacking In-Reply-To: header and not threading
On Mon 9 August 2004, 4:31:18 +1000, Allie Martin wrote: I've noted that your messages are not threading. Upon checking, they seem to lack the In-Reply-To: header which should contain the id of the message that you're replying to. That's interesting, Zonnet's messages thread properly on my system. Although you are right about the missing In-Reply-To: header, the References: header seems to be keeping the thread correctly set up. -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages lacking In-Reply-To: header and not threading
Robin Anson, [RA] wrote: That's interesting, Zonnet's messages thread properly on my system. Although you are right about the missing In-Reply-To: header, the References: header seems to be keeping the thread correctly set up. Odd that for some there's successful threading using the only the Reference: header information, while with others, the threading fails. shrug The other mystery is what is happening to the In-reply-to header that TB! usually generates when a reply message is generated. -- Allie Martin [List Moderator and fellow end-user] The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/3 on WinXP Pro (SP1) . He who laughs last probably made a backup. pgp2ZHHD4k1zO.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages lacking In-Reply-To: header and not threading
Hi Allie Martin - On Sun, 8 Aug 2004, at 20:02:58 [GMT -0500] (which was 6:02 PM where I live) you wrote: The other mystery is what is happening to the In-reply-to header that TB! usually generates when a reply message is generated. Good question. I am noticing the same thing. -- Best Regards, Kevin Using The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgpRipZPXKwVy.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages lacking In-Reply-To: header and not threading
Sunday, August 8, 2004, 9:02:58 PM, Allie wrote: Allie The other mystery is what is happening to the In-reply-to header that Allie TB! usually generates when a reply message is generated. I notice that Gerard is using X-Ray. Could it be eating the In-Reply_to: header? -- Regards, Plan9 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html