Re: selective quoting

2004-08-08 Thread M i c C u l l e n
On Saturday, August 7, 2004 @ 7:44:09 AM, Darrin Rich wrote:

[snips]

rg Can't I highlight text in a received mssg then choose to forward to
rg reply to it and only have the highlight text quoted


Darrin Highlight the text and hit the F4 key.

Can this be done from a message opened from the message ticker? I've tried to
find the shortcut to change and no joy :-(

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Re: Mailserver

2004-08-08 Thread Andre Wichartz
Hello Gunivortus,

On 7 Aug 2004 at 10:31:19 +0200 GMT [10:31 CEST] you wrote:

GG Hi,

GG wanna start with some experiments, using TB (2.13.b3) as
GG mailserver, but forgot if I installed it as Server.
GG Where can I check that?

 Options-NetworkAdministration-This machine is..

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Re: BayesIt filtering: Spam error high

2004-08-08 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Peter Kerekes,

08-Aug-2004 00:21, you wrote:

 Need some help to improve on Spam filtering.

Forgive me the stupid question, but do you actually train the BayesIt
filter if it has a false negative? (right click on the mail, Special, Mark
as Junk).


 Can anyone suggest a change in any settings to improve filtration?

Have you trained the BayesIt filter by importing a large Spam database? I
found its accuracy dropped when I did that. I only used my Spam for
training BayesIt, and its accuracy was much higher.

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Re: BayesIt filtering: Spam error high

2004-08-08 Thread Wolffe

A Have you trained the BayesIt filter by importing a large Spam database? I
A found its accuracy dropped when I did that. I only used my Spam for
A training BayesIt, and its accuracy was much higher.

If you've trained BayesIt once, can you untrain it a train it afresh?



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Re: BayesIt filtering: Spam error high

2004-08-08 Thread DZ-Jay
Some time around 08/07/2004 18:21:10, I think I heard Peter Kerekes say:
!SNIP!
 I haven't much clue what the lines in advance.ini do and therefore do not
 want to experiment with it.

 Can anyone suggest a change in any settings to improve filtration?

 Advance.ini file:

 working thread priority=2
 onexit thread priority=3
 selective download spam threshold=10
 export selective download=1
 simple digits spam marks=1
 no spaces spam marks=1
 limit size to hash=19
 limit size to hash header=96
 temporary dictionary=c:\\temp
 use expiration=0
 age to expirate=100
 learn from zero=1
 max size of log file=131072
 recalculating strategy=3
 regarding threshold=1.5
 use autotrain=1
 use degeneration=1
 number of exclamations=5
!SNIP!

Hello:
I've been looking for a while on help tuning my BayesIt installation, but I 
can't seem to find much help, even though I search the archives of this list and the 
web.  I used to use PopFile and became pretty proficient at tuning it, even editing 
the corpus by hand, but even though I find BayesIt much more competent (and accurate), 
I don't seem to understand much of its advanced features.

I've read from many that the new Advanced.ini file contains comments from the 
developer explaining the various options, but mine (v5.5) does not.  The only help 
available from the BayesIt site is outdated and refers to an updated version in the 
RitLabs page, but its in Russian, which I cannot read.  So, with the help of the fish 
(the Babelfish, that is), an online Russian-English dictionary, and a bit of deductive 
reasoning, I was able to translate it as best as I could.  It helped me a bit, so I 
thought it might help others too.

Still, some explanations are a bit too technical, and they could use some 
finessing, so if anybody can help further, I (and others, I'm sure) will appreciate it 
inmensely.  Technical or not, its still more understandable to us non-russian speaking 
people.

;working thread priority (2)
;Determines the priority of the base retraining process.
;Retraining is carried out by the filter in the background mode
;and it is usually imperceptible to the user. By default, the
;value of this parameter (2) corresponds to the system parameter
;THREAD_PRIORITY_LOWEST.

;onexit thread priority (3)
;If, during the retraining process, the user clicked on the exit
;button in The Bat!, the retraining process will acquire the
;indicated priority. Usually, it is higher than normal. This is
;necessary so that the filter notifies the current retraining
;operation as soon as possible when it is safe to interrupt the
;process without risk of losing important data. By default, the
;value of this parameter (3) corresponds to the system parameter
;TRHEAD_PRIORITY_NORMAL.

;export selective download (1)
;When defined, the filter will export the collection of trigger
;lines for the selective download filter. If the parameter is set
;to 1, then the filter will create the file selective.txt in
;the working folder, which will contain the constantly updated
;list of regular expressions encountered in the headers of
;spam-messages. If this parameter is set to 0, then no lists of
;lines will be exported.

;selective download spam threshold (10)
;Determines with what frequency any one token must appear in the
;headers of spam messages in order for it to be included in the
;file selective.txt (see the previous parameter). It is
;recommended that this number is computed so that the size of the
;file selective.txt would not exceed 40Kb-50Kb. With larger lists
;of trigger lines, The Bat! becomes unstable. Words are selected
;into the file selective.txt based on the following criteria: the
;word must exist in the headers of the message and must never be
;encountered in the headers of non-spam messages, and has been
;encountered n number of times in the headers of spam messages;
;where n corresponds to the discussed parameter.

;simple digits spam marks (1)
;Allows html-comments in the messages of the form !--2345--
;(i.e. consisting of some numbers) to be treated as special
;generalized technical tokens. Since such headers are encountered
;in essence in spam messages, this special token can
;substantially help during the analysis of some messages.

;no spaces spam marks (1)
;Is analogous to the previous parameter; however, it treats as
;special tokens not only numerical comments, but any comment
;which does not contain whitespace.

;limit size to hash (19)
;Allows you to assign a maximum length to the words which will be
;stored in the base unchanged. If any word exceeds the assigned
;length (for example, a pgp-signature), then it will be
;automatically encoded into a hash and saved in the base in its
;original form.

;limit size to hash header (96)
;Assigns a similar length to the tokens from 

Re: selective quoting

2004-08-08 Thread DZ-Jay
Some time around 08/07/2004 17:19:30, I think I heard Jan Rifkinson say:
rg May I suggest that if text in a received email is highlighted and then
rg a reply is initiated that it should be assumed that the reply is meant
rg to perform this F4 function by default?

 huh? e... I think that's what happens now.


You mean, now as in v2.13, the version you are using? Because at least on my 
version, v2.12, it does not do that; you still have to hit F4.  I think that what the 
poster was suggesting is the behaviour found in Eudora, where any standard operation 
on an opened message (i.e. reply, forward, redirect, etc.) when text is selected, will 
quote and include only the selected text.  Eudora offers this as an option in its 
configuration.  Maybe TB! could do the same? :)

dZ.

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Re: selective quoting

2004-08-08 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello DZ-Jay,

On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 09:33:48 -0400 GMT (08/08/2004, 20:33 +0700 GMT),
DZ-Jay wrote:

rg May I suggest that if text in a received email is highlighted and then
rg a reply is initiated that it should be assumed that the reply is meant
rg to perform this F4 function by default?

 huh? e... I think that's what happens now.


DJ You mean, now as in v2.13, the version you are using?
DJ Because at least on my version, v2.12, it does not do that; you
DJ still have to hit F4.

You will have to tell TB somehow that you want to create a reply; the
alternative is that a reply will be automtically created (editor
window opened) when you release the mouse button after highlighting.
That can cause problems, as you want to finetune the quotation.

DJ I think that what the poster was suggesting is the behaviour found
DJ in Eudora, where any standard operation on an opened message (i.e.
DJ reply, forward, redirect, etc.) when text is selected, will quote
DJ and include only the selected text.

I don't understand what you are saying. OK, so in Eudora, you select
text in an incoming message. But then you will have to tell Eudora
what to do with the selection: reply, forward, redirect?

DJ Eudora offers this as an option in its configuration.  Maybe TB!
DJ could do the same? :)

I think TB does it, doesn't it?

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Re: selective quoting

2004-08-08 Thread DZ-Jay
Some time around 08/08/2004 10:38:52, I think I heard Thomas Fernandez say:


DJ You mean, now as in v2.13, the version you are using?
DJ Because at least on my version, v2.12, it does not do that; you
DJ still have to hit F4.

 You will have to tell TB somehow that you want to create a reply; the
 alternative is that a reply will be automtically created (editor
 window opened) when you release the mouse button after highlighting.
 That can cause problems, as you want to finetune the quotation.

Hum... I see that you do not understand what I am saying.  Let me give you an example, 
and for convenience's sake, I will use Eudora, which offers the feature we are 
discussing:

In Eudora, I can check an option in the configurations that will allow 
selective-quoting when replying or forwarding.  So the following occurs:

1. I open a message to read it.
2. I select a relevant piece of the text
3. I hit the *standard* reply or forward buttons, *not* a special hot-key, or other 
function, but the regular buttons.
4. Eudora will create a new message, like normal, but instead of quoting the entire 
text, it will quote and include *only* the selected text.

The difference in TB! is that hitting the Reply/Forward/Redirect/Reply-to-All buttons 
while selecting text will result in TB! replying/forwarding/redirecting/etc. the 
message with the ENTIRE text quoted, as normal; and in order to invoke 
selective-quoting you have to use a *special* function, the F4 hot-key.

This is fine, but what we are requesting is a feature (optional, of course) that you 
can automatically have this F4 behaviour occur with the normal reply/fwd/redir buttons.

 I don't understand what you are saying. OK, so in Eudora, you select
 text in an incoming message. But then you will have to tell Eudora
 what to do with the selection: reply, forward, redirect?

You tell it by clicking the normal reply/forward/redirect buttons.  But with the 
configuration option, you have told Eudora that *ANY* message operation 
(reply/fwd/redir/etc.) will invoke selective-quoting by default.  See above comment.

DJ Eudora offers this as an option in its configuration.  Maybe TB!
DJ could do the same? :)

 I think TB does it, doesn't it?

It does offer selective-quoting, but as a special function, initiated by the F4 
hot-key, not integrated with the normal reply/fwd/redir buttons, which is what we 
are requesting.

I hope this clears it up a bit. :)

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Re[2]: Help With Filter

2004-08-08 Thread Pete Holsberg
Saturday, August 7, 2004, 11:15:51 PM, you wrote:

BM On Sat 7-Aug-04 6:02pm -0400, Pete Holsberg wrote:

 I'm having trouble with a filter. Perhaps someone can spot
 my error.

BM I've not tested your filter with refilter.  I used it with your
BM hotkey.  It appears to work fine with the minor modifications I
BM mention below.

To test the filter, did you select a folder before hitting the
hot key combo? Did you select any messages?

 Rule
 

 Source: Inbox\04-01
 Move messages to folder: Inbox\04-01A

BM Using the hotkey, leave these at their defaults.

How does the filter know which folder to filter?


 Filtering strings:
 StringsFrom:
 Location   Sender
 Presence   Yes

BM There's no need, with hotkeys, to add a filter for your harvesting
BM action.

I don't understand. Without a filter, how do I copy
the email address of each sender to a specific group
of an address book?

 Active - checked
 Manual only - not checked

BM Check Manual also.

Why?

 Actions
 ---
 Add addresses to Address Book
 Items: Sender (From)
 Add tp groups: taskvols (this is a folder in the Personal AB)

 Options
 ---
 Regex is checked

BM Why?

I had this from an earlier attempt when I was trying to
write a regex for the filter string.

 Execute on CTRL-SH-F12

 (Nothing else is checked)

BM Check This rule is executed only by pressing the hotkey

 I close this, go to the Inbox\04-01, click Folder 
 Re-filter. It says that it filtered N messages, but when I
 look at the AB, nothing has been added.

BM If you actually want to process all the mail in a folder, just use
BM ctrl-a to select all before your hotkey.  The normal use, however,
BM would be to press your hotkey on a message whose sender you want added
BM to your AB.


The whole point is to grab ALL the from addresses from ALL the messages
in a folder.

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Re: problem of background color in the sorted column of messages list !

2004-08-08 Thread Allie Martin
Wilwilwil, [W] wrote:

 I've seen on the computer of a friend of mine that his version of
 The Bat has a great feature : He has a background color set on the
 column used for sorting messages list. If he clicks on From to
 sort on sender, the background color of the column From become
 grey. And it's real for each column he wants to sort on. I ask him
 to know how he had set this. He said me nothing, It was by default.

This is true. There's no specific setting that I know of to adjust the
colour of the starting column. It would seem that it's another of the
systems colour schemes colours that is used or a derivative of it.

I just changed the window colour and the sorted columns colour was
changed to one that's just a little darker than the colour I chose for
the Window.

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VF's - just got it

2004-08-08 Thread DanG

Finally figured out what these things are good for. Searched TBUDL for
mymacros  (yeah  I'm  having  difficulty  using the new %SmartQuotes
also) and the result list offered me the option of porting the list to
a VF and create an automatic filter for it.
So, I now have a VF on that topic (and a couple others now).
Great idea!

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MyMacros - getting it

2004-08-08 Thread DanG

So,  since  I  read  everyone  else's  stuff  on  the  new  MyMacros,
particularly re %SmartQuotes, I figured this out.
When I reply to a message, if there is something in the quoted section
that is extraneous, I copy it, got to the plugins configure window for
MyMacros,   paste  those  lines  in either hello word or goodbye words
and, poof, they don't show up in the quoted text anymore.
e.g., I use Nod (which I recommend highly), which puts that comforting blurb at the 
bottom of any
message that comes in:
__ NOD32 1.834 (20040804) Information __

This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.
http://www.nod32.com 
So, I put it in Goodbye words and it doesn't get quoted anymore.
Thank you, Andrew!

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Re: selective quoting

2004-08-08 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello DZ-Jay,

On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 12:14:10 -0400 GMT (08/08/2004, 23:14 +0700 GMT),
DZ-Jay wrote:

DJ 3. I hit the *standard* reply or forward buttons, *not* a
DJ special hot-key, or other function, but the regular buttons.

I see. The mouse approach, didn't think about that. You are right,
the toolbars are not configurable in that way in TB. Rumours have it
that this is being worked upon, but don't hold your breath.

DJ I hope this clears it up a bit. :)

It did.

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Re: Help With Filter

2004-08-08 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Sun 8-Aug-04 11:30am -0400, Pete Holsberg wrote:
 Saturday, August 7, 2004, 11:15:51 PM, you wrote:
 On Sat 7-Aug-04 6:02pm -0400, Pete Holsberg wrote:

 I'm having trouble with a filter. Perhaps someone can spot
 my error.

 I've not tested your filter with refilter.  I used it with your
 hotkey.  It appears to work fine with the minor modifications I
 mention below.

 To test the filter, did you select a folder before hitting the
 hot key combo? Did you select any messages?

Yes, I selected the message(s) I wanted to harvest and hit the
hotkey.

 Rule
 

 Source: Inbox\04-01
 Move messages to folder: Inbox\04-01A

 Using the hotkey, leave these at their defaults.

 How does the filter know which folder to filter?

It only filters selected messages.  If you actually need to filter an
entire folder, click on any message followed by Ctrl-a (select all)
before pressing the hotkey.

 Filtering strings:
 StringsFrom:
 Location   Sender
 Presence   Yes

 There's no need, with hotkeys, to add a filter for your harvesting
 action.

 I don't understand. Without a filter, how do I copy
 the email address of each sender to a specific group
 of an address book?

You do need a filter.  You don't need re-filter.  The hotkey activates
your filter.

 Active - checked
 Manual only - not checked

 Check Manual also.

 Why?

To use your hotkey.

 I close this, go to the Inbox\04-01, click Folder 
 Re-filter. It says that it filtered N messages, but when I
 look at the AB, nothing has been added.

 If you actually want to process all the mail in a folder, just use
 ctrl-a to select all before your hotkey.  The normal use, however,
 would be to press your hotkey on a message whose sender you want added
 to your AB.

 The whole point is to grab ALL the from addresses from ALL the messages
 in a folder.

Hmm, by your inclusion of a hotkey, I assumed you normal use was to
select the messages and hit the hotkey - that's how I use a similar
filter.  It's a simple matter to select all messages in a folder then
press the hotkey it the rare (in my case) need to do so.  This
approach involves to message movement and no rule is required.

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Re: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??

2004-08-08 Thread Zonnet

ON Saturday, August 7, 2004, 10:01:01 PM, you wrote:
PH Cool! Where do I put this? It doesn't seem to fit the point-and-click
PH filter creation in TB.

PH Thanks.

Pete,
Copy the filter with CTRL-C from BeginFilter to EndFilter
Go to sorting office and select read messages.
Press CTRL-V and prest a new filter appears named Auto.

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Re: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??

2004-08-08 Thread Zonnet

ON Saturday, August 7, 2004, 10:27:58 AM, you wrote:

BM I had to insert the Sender: header field manually (as X-Sender!) and
BM I had to save the message into the Outbox to get the Bat! to let me 
BM put my address into the Sender: field.

Well Bill,
You have proven it to be technically possible to do this but I do not see
the value of multiple addresses in the From: field.

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Messages lacking In-Reply-To: header and not threading (Was: Re: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??)

2004-08-08 Thread Allie Martin
Zonnet, [Z] wrote:

 You have proven it to be technically possible to do this but I do
 not see the value of multiple addresses in the From: field.

I've noted that your messages are not threading. Upon checking, they
seem to lack the In-Reply-To: header which should contain the id of
the message that you're replying to.

I wonder where that header is disappearing to?

Are you using TB!? If so, then something is deleting that header.

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Re: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??

2004-08-08 Thread Jan Rifkinson
On Friday, August 06, 2004 it appears that Pete Holsberg
wrote the following in regards to Harvest Sender Email Addresses??:

JR   I may not understand what you want either but have you looked @
JR   filters | actions | Add address(es) to Address Book

PH I have a folder full of email messages.

PH I would like to -- automagically, extract from each message the email address of
PH the sender and append it to a text file in a specified directory.

Hi Pete. I assume all msgs have been read.

  Open Sorting office Filters
  Click on 'Read' Messages
  Click 'New' give your filter a name
  At strings add @ w/o quotes so it selects any sender
  Under Actions Tab select Add address to Address Book
  Select 'Sender (from)' it's the default I think
  Add to Groups create a dummy group to add these names to
  Under Options Tab
  Select Execute action set of this rule by pressing the Hot Key
  add your hot key(s) of choice
  Click Close
  Select all messages in folder
  Run filter via short cut keys
  Export to address list (plain text)
  Name it  Ssve it to your desktop or wherever

  That should do it for you. If not, maybe someone else will have
  a better idea.

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Re[2]: Help With Filter

2004-08-08 Thread Pete Holsberg
Sunday, August 8, 2004, 1:57:25 PM, you wrote:

 There's no need, with hotkeys, to add a filter for your harvesting
 action.

 I don't understand. Without a filter, how do I copy
 the email address of each sender to a specific group
 of an address book?

BM You do need a filter.  You don't need re-filter.  The hotkey activates
BM your filter.

So why did you say that I don't need to add a filter

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Re: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??

2004-08-08 Thread Jan Rifkinson
On Saturday, August 07, 2004 it appears that Pete Holsberg 
wrote the following in regards to Harvest Sender Email Addresses??:

PH Addressbook group did not get any additions.

PH Seems like it should work but nothing happens.

PH ???

Here's a copy of my filter which worked. except for one little
thing: the msgs in the folder were moved/deleted somewhere... I'm
not sure yet *but* the addresses were harvested.

Rule= Active
Manual only = true

Options Tab
Execute action
check selected msgs against rule
this rule is executed by pressing hotkey




BeginFilter
Name: test
Active: 1
Source: \\SNET \Inbox
Target: \\SNET \Inbox
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: 00@
Actions: faAddAddress,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoHKCheckMsg,faoHotKeyOnly
AddGroups: test
DelGroups: 
ForwardTemplate: 
ConfirmTemplate: 
ReplyTemplate: 
FwdAddr: 
RedirectAddr: 
NewAddr: 
NewTemplate: 
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Re: Help With Filter

2004-08-08 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Sun 8-Aug-04 1:56pm -0400, Pete Holsberg wrote:

 Sunday, August 8, 2004, 1:57:25 PM, you wrote:

 There's no need, with hotkeys, to add a filter for your harvesting
 action.

 I don't understand. Without a filter, how do I copy
 the email address of each sender to a specific group
 of an address book?

 You do need a filter.  You don't need re-filter.  The hotkey activates
 your filter.

 So why did you say that I don't need to add a filter

I was responding to the part you didn't quote which was:

 Filtering strings:
 StringsFrom:
 Location   Sender
 Presence   Yes

Clearly, so I thought, by adding a filter I meant to say adding a
**Filtering string**.  Sorry for the confusion.

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Re: selective quoting

2004-08-08 Thread DZ-Jay
Some time around 08/08/2004 15:01:43, I think I heard rich gregory say:
 hy an option?  Let's look at it this way...

 Is there ever any time that you might 1) highlight part of a message
 then 2) hit either forward or reply and NOT want to include anything
 other than what you've highlighted?

I agree, but that's just me... and probably you and a few others.  Since TB! prides 
itself in being the best of breeds to many, and offering some outstanding advanced 
customizations, I imagined that it would be in the best interest of all to provide it 
as an option.

dZ.

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Re[2]: problem of background color in the sorted column of messages list !

2004-08-08 Thread WilWilWil
==Original message text===
From: Allie Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Wilwilwil on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sunday, August 8, 2004, 7:28:06 PM
Subject: problem of background color in the sorted column of messages list !
AM Wilwilwil, [W] wrote:

 I've seen on the computer of a friend of mine that his version of
 The Bat has a great feature : He has a background color set on the
 column used for sorting messages list. If he clicks on From to
 sort on sender, the background color of the column From become
 grey. And it's real for each column he wants to sort on. I ask him
 to know how he had set this. He said me nothing, It was by default.

AM This is true. There's no specific setting that I know of to adjust the
AM colour of the starting column. It would seem that it's another of the
AM systems colour schemes colours that is used or a derivative of it.

AM I just changed the window colour and the sorted columns colour was
AM changed to one that's just a little darker than the colour I chose for
AM the Window.


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I try all set of colors of windows, and nothing changes... :-(

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Re: Messages lacking In-Reply-To: header and not threading (Was: Re: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??)

2004-08-08 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Allie,

On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 13:31:18 -0500GMT (8-8-2004, 20:31 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

AM I've noted that your messages are not threading. Upon checking, they
AM seem to lack the In-Reply-To: header which should contain the id of
AM the message that you're replying to.

Gerard's messages do contain the references header, that should be
enough for threading. (It is over here.)

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Re: Messages lacking In-Reply-To: header and not threading (Was: Re: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??)

2004-08-08 Thread Kevin Amazon
Hi Roelof Otten

-
On Sun, 8 Aug 2004, at 23:49:11 [GMT +0200] (which was 2:49 PM where I
live) you wrote:

AM I've noted that your messages are not threading. Upon checking, they
AM seem to lack the In-Reply-To: header which should contain the id of
AM the message that you're replying to.

 Gerard's messages do contain the references header, that should be
 enough for threading. (It is over here.)

Strangely enough, I see the reference headers in Gerard's message but
not In-Reply-To header and his messages do not thread on my system
either.

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Re: Messages lacking In-Reply-To: header and not threading

2004-08-08 Thread Robin Anson
On Mon 9 August 2004, 4:31:18 +1000, Allie Martin wrote:
 I've noted that your messages are not threading. Upon checking, they
 seem to lack the In-Reply-To: header which should contain the id of
 the message that you're replying to.

That's interesting, Zonnet's messages thread properly on my system.
Although you are right about the missing In-Reply-To: header, the
References: header seems to be keeping the thread correctly set up.

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Re: Messages lacking In-Reply-To: header and not threading

2004-08-08 Thread Allie Martin
Robin Anson, [RA] wrote:

 That's interesting, Zonnet's messages thread properly on my system.
 Although you are right about the missing In-Reply-To: header, the
 References: header seems to be keeping the thread correctly set up.

Odd that for some there's successful threading using the only the
Reference: header information, while with others, the threading fails.
shrug

The other mystery is what is happening to the In-reply-to header that
TB! usually generates when a reply message is generated.

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Re: Messages lacking In-Reply-To: header and not threading

2004-08-08 Thread Kevin Amazon
Hi Allie Martin

-
On Sun, 8 Aug 2004, at 20:02:58 [GMT -0500] (which was 6:02 PM where I
live) you wrote:


 The other mystery is what is happening to the In-reply-to header that
 TB! usually generates when a reply message is generated.

Good question. I am noticing the same thing.

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Re: Messages lacking In-Reply-To: header and not threading

2004-08-08 Thread Plan9
Sunday, August 8, 2004, 9:02:58 PM, Allie wrote:

Allie The other mystery is what is happening to the In-reply-to header that
Allie TB! usually generates when a reply message is generated.

I notice that Gerard is using X-Ray.  Could it be eating the
In-Reply_to: header?

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