Re: Duplicate Message Search
Hi On Monday 6 December 2004 at 5:47:18 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: AMG Curious as to how TB! does its duplicate message AMG search. IIRC on Message-ID A then it isn't working fully, or there are some other criteria in play. [...] A (also explains why the sent folder never found any dupes, no A Message ID). Messages in my sent folders all have message id. This message has message id mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and I am still creating it. AFAIK dupes are identified both message-ID and Date header. Yes, that is the reason why dupes in the Sent folder are not detected. If I copy a message from Sent Mail to another folder and then move the copy to Sent Mail, selecting Remove Duplicates leads to the detection and removal of one copy. A Using TB! 3.0.1.33 OK, even though I use a v3, my wisdom usaully really applies to v1 and v2, so take my posting with a bit of grain. It happened two or three times on this list that what I said what not true for v3 any more, but I don't recall any change with regards to dupes. According to TB! v3 help file:- Duplicates are detected by the following combination of message attributes: Message ID, Sender and date of creation. -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail POP settings
Hi On Sunday 5 December 2004 at 3:17:11 PM, Tony Boom wrote: M Each time I send or receive, I get a dialog box about the M server not supplying a root certificate and I have to press M OK to continue. Sorry my old Son but I can't help you with that. I've never had that happen so I wouldn't know how to fix it. This is what the account log says. 06/12/2004, 10:22:07: FETCH - Certificate S/N: 3E9C89, algorithm: RSA (2048 bits), issued from 16 Sep 2004 to 16 Sep 2005, for 1 host(s): pop.gmail.com. 06/12/2004, 10:22:07: FETCH - Owner: US, California, Mountain View, Google Inc, pop.gmail.com. 06/12/2004, 10:22:07: FETCH - Issuer: ZA, Western Cape, Cape Town, Thawte Consulting cc, Certification Services Division, Thawte Server CA, [EMAIL PROTECTED] !06/12/2004, 10:22:07: FETCH - TLS handshake failure. Invalid server certificate (The issuer of this certificate chain was not found). (Then it sends or receives the messages, if I click OK.) I just followed the instructions on site and left them as they was. That probably means you have a certificate for Thawte Server CA in your address book. I have lots of entries in mine but for each one, the certificate tab is empty. :-( I know there used to be certificates there but restoring the address books from a backup does not bring them back. -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail POP settings
Hi On Sunday 5 December 2004 at 12:36:55 PM, Nav wrote: I still can't get TheBat! to work with G-Mail. The authentication suceeds, but after that connection hangs forever. [...] Could there be some bug in TheBat! See https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3979 -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail POP settings
Hi On Monday 6 December 2004 at 11:23:23 AM, MFPA wrote: That probably means you have a certificate for Thawte Server CA in your address book. I have lots of entries in mine but for each one, the certificate tab is empty. :-( I know there used to be certificates there but restoring the address books from a backup does not bring them back. Downloaded the required certificate from https://www.verisign.com/support/thawte-roots.zip and all now works fine. -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Trusted Root CA address book - most entries have no certificates
Hi I have 104 entries in my Trusted Root CA address book but only 14 of them have certificates. Is this normal? -- Best regards, MFPA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Duplicate Message Search
MFPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: According to TB! v3 help file:- Duplicates are detected by the following combination of message attributes: Message ID, Sender and date of creation. Further investigation would lead to the following change: Duplicates are detected by the following combination of message attributes: Message ID, Sender and date of creation as *listed* in the bat!. For a sample message, the headers are identical, the message ID, date, and sender.. however there is a two hour discrepancy in TB's interface. Message Headers (both read): Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 13:33:37 -0400 in TB Interface: displays as 25 Aug 2004, 2:33 PM in the local message displays as 25 Aug 2004, 12:33 PM in the imported message 2 hours went somewhere, and I don't see where in the message something like that could be set, EDT on both Yahoo and Here on the PC, but there is nowhere on the PC where such a thing would be set differently. Just sent myself a test message to test the time stamp. Seems fine. Once second, just had an idea... However, after exporting the those two and reimporting them into another folder (as a joke) the creation dates match. Remove Duplicates worked. Go figure. And no, haven't reset my PC clock recently and these were all donwloaded over the weekend. Maybe something to look into, and a way to work around it. Not a bad day's work. Thanks everybody! Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Duplicate Message Search
After testing on a large volume of mail... That work around isn't perfect, and does still misses some of the dupes that now have everything the same. Oh, well. -- Andrew Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: File Location, Permission, Spell Checker, etc.
Wed, 1 Dec 2004 18:22:08 -0500 (6:22 PM EST here) Chris wrote:
Dan Grunberg @ 2004-Dec-1 10:30:19 AM File Location, Permission,
Spell Checker, etc. mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
If the DEFAULT location for The Bat!'s files became
CSIDL_APPDATA\Rit Labs\The Bat!\ or some variant thereof, these
problems would be solved. Axillary files, like BayseIt files and
the custom dictionary would need to be moved there also.
For those of us who want to have control over where our data files
are stored, those options would still remain.
Is this procedure correct?
1. Spelling. Keep each email account's home directory in a user
controlled folder structure.
TheBat! + Account + Files directories
Home Directory {Browse]
etc.
Yes. Currently, those changes require modifying the registry.
However, I think that the custom dictionary should be stored in the
user's mail directory, not in The Bat!'s program directory. Each
user has his or hew own custom dictionary. I may want
antidifferentiation to be considered correct, while another user may
not.
(If not, how do you redirect TheBat! to the TheBats applications
data?)
The default should be that the user's mail goes into
CSIDL_APPDATA\Rit Labs\The Bat!\. Normally this would be
C:\Documents and Settings\%USERNAME%\Application Data\Rit Labs\The
Bat!, but a network administrator could change it to
\\server.company.com\Roaming Data\%USERNAME%\Application Data\Rit
Labs\The Bat!.
I am my system's administrator. I've used Regedit before.
1. What keys have to be changed? Changed from what to what?
2. Would the registry changes work if I were using XP Home?
3. Would there be any side effects to look out for?
Using: The Bat! v2.12.00, BayesIt! 0.5.9,
MyMacros 1.11, gMacrosPlugin 0.80
Windows XP v5.1 - Build 2600 - Service Pack 2
--
Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA
homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/
Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Thousands of .MSG files?
This is probably easy to fix, but I've not been able to locate a setting for it anywhere... Sometime before I upgraded to tb3.01 (but while I was trying out beta versions of tb2.xx) I started getting large numbers of .MSG files in my 'attachments' folder. (A) Can I safely delete these without losing the bodies of messages I want to save? (B) If not, how do I tell The Bat! to keep the bodies with the messages instead of on disk? (C) If so, then how do I tell The Bat! to stop crapping on my disk drive? If no one's noticed, explorer isn't very fast when there are 20,000+ files in a folder... (and before you ask, yes, I get far, far too much SPAM). -- Steven P Valliere [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thousands of .MSG files?
Steven P Valliere [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If no one's noticed, explorer isn't very fast when there are 20,000+ files in a folder... (and before you ask, yes, I get far, far too much SPAM). I'll let others answer the rest, but do you not have checked Delete Attached Messages when a Message is Deleted from the Trash folder In Options Files Directories? This way, when you delete your spam, the attachments, if any, go as well? Been my experience that by having the attachments stored externally that I can find/search them better and that the bat reacts very quickly since the mailbase is smaller. In any case, in the same location you will find the dropdown list that parses out the attachments (Keep Attachment Files option). Also a setting to bind attachments for sent mail. (I messed up an earlier install when I was first starting out, as near as I can tell, TB still knows that the e-mail is supposed to have an attachment, but all the sizes are 0 bytes. Let others confirm this or maybe even a better solution, just my anectodal observations). -- Hope this helps, Andrew Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Attachments in body or special directory?
Can anyone summarise the advantages and disadvantages of storing attachments in message bodies or in special folder? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 with POPFile 0.22.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Very slow opening attachments and opening directory to 'save to..'
TB seems v slow at the moment in opening attachments and in opening the browse window for saving attachments. I have a local network so I can understand that causing a slight delay finding network drives etc but it can take up to three minutes to display the browse directory, and now it is being very slow opening some (Word for one) attachments. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 with POPFile 0.22.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments in body or special directory?
Dear Marten, @6-Dec-2004, 20:46 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [MG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: MG Can anyone summarise the advantages and disadvantages of MG storing attachments in message bodies or in special folder? In the message body, folder / entire message integrity is far easier to maintain. Extracting attachments to a special folder means easier access to the files without having to load TB but less integration - messages can sometimes become detached from their attachments. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpQqYtbMpW98.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
