IMAP4 Configuration
I recently started to use v2 that I bought overght 1-yr. ago. I have no idea how to configure it for IMAP4 protocol. All I want to do is download all messages from the server; and automatically delete them on the server after download. I got it to work in v1.x; but those settings doesn't work in v2. when I click on Get Mail, the connection box comes up, but doesn't retrieve mail. It times out after a while and quit. Can anyone help? Also, in the Properties Transport Receive Mail, when I click on change password, it doesn't do anything. And does Sychronize means a 2-way sychronize between the server and my PC? -- Thanks in advance Using The Bat! 2.12.00 Under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Morphing subject selective filter
Hello rich, On 24 March 2005 at 11:06:24 GMT -0500 (which was 17:06:24 where I live), rich gregory wrote and made these valuable points on the subject of Morphing subject selective filter: Hello Bat-Folk! Using TB! v2.12.00... Since the filter interface will not let me selectively delete based on text in the body of the message I need to filter on a morphing subject line... Is there a way to add a selective download filter that will check for a match on, say 15, out of 20 or so characters in the subject line? I am getting hundreds of these a day: wicked [EMAIL PROTECTED] to keep you going wicked drug)s to keep you going wicked dr*ugs to keep you going wicked dr]ugs to keep you going wicked dru$gs to keep you going wicked drug$s to keep you going wicked dr/ugs to keep you going Sometimes the word wicked is fudged, sometimes other parts of the subject, but the phraseology is the same always. Thx RG Why don't you use a good spamfilter to get rid off these messages? In that case you only have to use a simple filter to move all these message to your Junk Mail folder. -- Best regards, Dick ___ There are three ways to get things done: do it yourself, hire someone to do it, or tell your kids not to do it. Using The Bat! v3.0.9.9 Return (pre-beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP4 Configuration
Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED], On 24/03/2005 06:35 AM -0500, you wrote: I recently started to use v2 that I bought overght 1-yr. ago. I have no idea how to configure it for IMAP4 protocol. All I want to do is download all messages from the server; and automatically delete them on the server after download. Why would you wish to do that with IMAP4. That's what POP3 is for, and furthermore, I'm not sure that IMAP only accounts exist. Usually they're manageable using only POP3 or both IMAP and POP3. Since v2, TB! does IMAP the way it should be done in that the messages are truly managed on the server and kept there. If you wish to do what you want, then you'd need to create filters to delete the messages as they're found on the server and move them to local folders on your system. The local folders would be either common folders, or folders within a POP account. The folders you create in an IMAP account are actually folders created on the server. -- -=[ Allie ]=- pgpPXgBlnWV57.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Morphing subject selective filter
Hello rich gregory everyone else, on 24-Mrz-2005 at 17:06 you (rich gregory) wrote: Sometimes the word wicked is fudged, sometimes other parts of the subject, but the phraseology is the same always. Get K9 from http://www.keir.net or any other Bayes filter based spam filter (K9 is very lean very good, running at 99.39% efficieny here at the moment). One week of training and the majority of spam will be recognized automagically. Promised. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The present, like a note in music, is nothing but as it appertains to what is past and what is to come. -- Walter Savage Landor Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro
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~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Tue, 25 Jan 2005,
@ @ at 17:15:39 -0800, when George Mitchell wrote:
Mica Mijatovic wrote:
MM I mean, I can't see what's wrong if you delete automatically *all*
MM SPAM right from the server, without doing anything else, including
MM the rummage over and over over downloaded garbage, in order to
MM possibly find a misinterpreted jewel. (-:
My take on spam filtering is that it is unacceptable for me to lose a
single legitimate message to an overeager filter. POPFile rarely
misclassifies a legitimate message as spam, but it does happen. I
gave BayesFilter about a week, and it didn't do a very good job at
all. No way would I trust it to make a decision to delete a message.
George, I wrote in this message you response here to, the next part:
I'll give to myself yet few days more, since I still cannot perceive a
flexibility in doing more instead less, and less effectively instead
more effectively. (:
It was on Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:50:57 +0100. So, I indeed gave myself time
to reconsider thing, and may now freely say, and with my heart full, and
my conscience 'clean', that a message which is not properly addressed to
you is *not* a legitimate message. So, your fear is unnecessary and
unjustifiable.
It, of course, doesn't mean that I have something *against* your ways
and methods, or simply habits. You may proceed with worrying
unnecessarily and in spending your precious time in the way you are
accustomed too. (-:
(All our habits are actually engraved in in our ne{ural|rvous} system,
and they need some tome to be re-written|modeled, whence we became aware
of a such need. It is somewhat unpleasant process sometimes, and
sometimes it even hurts (ouch!) a bit. When is the moment in our
precious life times when we'll *do* something or not, remains a
mystery for many.)
Your fellow Batty colleague. (-:
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Mica
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Re: Morphing subject selective filter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 24 Mar 2005, @ @ at 11:06:24 -0500, when rich gregory wrote: Hello Bat-Folk! Hello Bat-Individual! Using TB! v2.12.00... Glad to meet you, a User of a noble taste and refinement, me too. Since the filter interface will not let me selectively delete based on text in the body of the message I need to filter on a morphing subject line... Is there a way to add a selective download filter that will check for a match on, say 15, out of 20 or so characters in the subject line? I am getting hundreds of these a day: wicked [EMAIL PROTECTED] to keep you going wicked drug)s to keep you going wicked dr*ugs to keep you going wicked dr]ugs to keep you going wicked dru$gs to keep you going wicked drug$s to keep you going wicked dr/ugs to keep you going Sometimes the word wicked is fudged, sometimes other parts of the subject, but the phraseology is the same always. There is no irresolvable problem. Always there is some way which leads to somewhere. If there's none, we make it. Watch now please... You would just to add this common s to keep you going part to Signal strings and to check radio button Entire header. Under Advanced tab the Action is Kill and Detection method is Any string match. Being that the subject string is in the header, manipulable by SD filters, it will catch the beasts and will destroy them all, right in the front of your digital doors. BUT, please pay attention to few things here... 1. If ``sometimes the word wicked is fudged, sometimes other parts of the subject'' then this common part will not be just that common, and this shift of mine will not work. 2. That was the reason (these mutable fudges, which are practically uncatchable by any regex-es) for me to change entire style/approach, and to start filtering against the *way of addressing me* (which saved me of an *enormous* amount of SPAM). If you are interested in such sort of strategy, you might find possibly useful to examine the thread Again,why only TB built-in filters are enough to fight all sorts of SPAM, starting with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. 3. If you follow the road No. 2, you would have to remodel a wee bit your mailing routines and these of (some of) your correspondents. 4. That's it. - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://bardo.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 204 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux, and with Bochs 2.1.1 with a small DLX Linux; and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector via Wine... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFCQwDZ9q62QPd3XuIRAgTJAJ9Vg6oGY263B/gxkvrRRiLpSOT4UACgl6kP Mck+jye2p4Pw/CRaXEfhL3U= =KRTa -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Morphing subject selective filter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 24 Mar 2005, @ @ at 11:06:24 -0500, when rich gregory wrote: Random tagline: If women didnt exist; all the money in the world would have no meaning. - Aristotle Onassis (1906-1975) Opps! I forgot to comment this one... we(e) apologize. 5. Yep. The universal attractiveness. (-: - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://bardo.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 204 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux, and with Bochs 2.1.1 with a small DLX Linux; and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector via Wine... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFCQwbu9q62QPd3XuIRAnN3AJ9TbYLpAKVFkfHiA6+pqmX4Kc5C7wCghoKo /ATUh6W1n/ubXYEwGBb1Two= =/PNb -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Message priority -- possible problem!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello TBUDL, Please tell me if anyone on this list ever gets my messages marked as of high priority? I all of them get, and send, marked as of normal priority, but some members see them in their mailers otherwise. I would perhaps have some ideas of why it could be so, but anyway would like to know if someone else have ever had such experiences with my messages. Please tell also what mailer you use. Thanks. (-: - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://bardo.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 204 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector via Wine... ~~~ For PM please use my full address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFCQxVQ9q62QPd3XuIRAmHuAJ44i0ybVL1NGq8uhth5Pnm2vQvlwwCfUyz0 ovJECPSDXbheVdcG41I+Sog= =7+33 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message priority -- possible problem!
Hallo Mica, On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:30:25 +0100GMT (24-3-2005, 20:30 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MM X-Priority: 3,141592653589793 (Laid Back) MM Please tell me if anyone on this list ever gets my messages marked as of MM high priority? Well, apparently you're playing with your headers. A priority of pi is not what TB uses. It is higher than three, so some clients might legitimately think it has a higher priority. I'm seeing it as normal priority though. As your mailer you're claiming: MM User-Agent: Bianfu! (v2.12.00) So I guess you're manipulating something with X-Ray or the like. -- Groetjes, Roelof Nobody notices when things go right, I'm always noticed. The Bat! 3.0.9.9 Return (pre-beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpGz6fdRrGTb.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message priority -- possible problem!
Hello Mica, From: Mica Mijatovic Organization: The Flying Mammal X-Priority: 3,141592653589793 (Laid Back) Nice! :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.9.9 Return (pre-beta) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message priority -- possible problem!
At 20:30 [GMT+0100] on Thursday March 24 (actual time - 3:30am on Friday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: Mica Please tell me if anyone on this list ever gets my messages marked as of Mica high priority? I all of them get, and send, marked as of normal Mica priority, but some members see them in their mailers otherwise. I would This is strange - your emails to the list I always see as 'High Priority (ie triggers my High Priority filter, which is predicated by the condition Priority is 'high'), but your email direct to me earlier this evening showed as normal priority. Both had the header: X-Priority: 3,141592653589793 (Laid Back) Mica perhaps have some ideas of why it could be so, but anyway would like to Mica know if someone else have ever had such experiences with my messages. Mica Please tell also what mailer you use. Thanks. (-: The Bat! :-) v3.0.2.10 -- cheers, mic Laughing at our mistakes can lengthen our own life. Laughing at someone else's can shorten it. Cullen Hightower Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message priority -- possible problem!
At 20:50 [GMT+0100] on Thursday March 24 (actual time - 3:50am on Friday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: MM X-Priority: 3,141592653589793 (Laid Back) MM Please tell me if anyone on this list ever gets my messages marked as of MM high priority? Roelof Well, apparently you're playing with your headers. A priority of pi is Roelof not what TB uses. It is higher than three, so some clients might Roelof legitimately think it has a higher priority. Roelof I'm seeing it as normal priority though. I wonder if it has to do with localisation? ie, down here in OZ, 3,141592653589793 is a vastly bigger number than 3.141592653589793 No real idea, I'm just guessing. -- cheers, mic Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. George Halas (1895 - 1983) Pro football coach Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message priority -- possible problem!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 24 Mar 2005, @ @ at 20:50:38 +0100, when Roelof Otten wrote: Well, apparently you're playing with your headers. A priority of pi is not what TB uses. TB uses, seems to me, lots of that. At least v3.0.2.10 has some very specific response to the pi, absolutely fitting irrational mode. To this irrational number it reacts inconsistently, or it's a consistence we still have no discovered. It sometimes my header X-Priority: 3,141592653589793 (Laid Back) interprets as normal and sometimes as high priority. There, now cope with this! I find it *very* interesting. And might be once I'll try to experiment more, but now I retire this header, since it makes confusion around, as I have learned today, and annoys/upsets people (I didn't know that! Sorry!). It is higher than three, so some clients might legitimately think it has a higher priority. Well, it's not very legitimately, though. Since order of priorities is like follows: X-Priority: 2 (High) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Priority: 4 (Low) So it should have to tend to the *lower* priority than normal, which was actually my intention. I'm seeing it as normal priority though. Thanks, Roelof! As your mailer you're claiming: MM User-Agent: Bianfu! (v2.12.00) It's The Bat! in Chinese. (-: So I guess you're manipulating something with X-Ray or the like. I tend to manipulate with everything which is manipulatable, in most complicated and magic (confusing?) ways, since my hands and my nervous system are construed this way and I can't help me. (-: They need activity. In this very moment though they are all in glue and grease since I am chasing a hole in my tire. User-Agent is done by TB, and X-Priority by X-ray (the later one disabled, until I estimate the damage). Let's be careful btw, Mercury is retrograde few days now. And if someone is prone to tell me it's a bs, think again. (-: Good time for finish unfinished and for correcting mistakes/omissions. -- There, a free advice. (-: - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://bardo.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 204 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector via Wine... ~~~ For PM please use my full address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFCQ0dy9q62QPd3XuIRAtg9AJwKNMS/S3vIlnsxZkSwy8ED7Nr/3gCghT0u ISbW3Tt7ikUUcjUMGzkLpG0= =h/VD -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to set orders for displaying messages for each account?
In v1.x, I couldn't set a default order for listing messages in various accounts. Now, in v2, I can do that. But the problem now is when I change the display/listing order in one folder (under folder properties), it changes the default order and applies to ALL accounts/folders. Basically, the default order is ascending order by Creation Date of the messages; and I want some folders to be in reverse order. So, my question is how to set a different order of display for some folders WITHOUT changing the default order for ALL accounts? And is it possible to change the order for all folders in a particular account? Or do I have to do it for each folder in the account? -- Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 2.12.00 Under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP4 Configuration
Thursday, March 24, 2005, Allie Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED], On 24/03/2005 06:35 AM -0500, you wrote: I recently started to use v2 that I bought overght 1-yr. ago. I have no idea how to configure it for IMAP4 protocol. All I want to do is download all messages from the server; and automatically delete them on the server after download. Why would you wish to do that with IMAP4. That's what POP3 is for, and furthermore, I'm not sure that IMAP only accounts exist. Usually they're manageable using only POP3 or both IMAP and POP3. IMAP4 is the only protocol for the free accounts at that place. May be I should just ditch that account? Since v2, TB! does IMAP the way it should be done in that the messages are truly managed on the server and kept there. If you wish to do what you want, then you'd need to create filters to delete the messages as they're found on the server and move them to local folders on your system. 1. First I need to know how to move the messages from the server to my PC. How do I do that? 2. What is the filter for all messages -- *.* ?? And I guess I delete the messages under the Action tab? 3. Then how to set a filter for further filtering the incoming messages to other folders/accounts? Or is #2 and #3 are just one filter? The local folders would be either common folders, or folders within a POP account. The folders you create in an IMAP account are actually folders created on the server. The Bat created the default folders when the account was created. And I added a few. Must the folders in TheBat match exactly with the folders on the server? [I really don't want these other folders on the server -- even if they are all empty.] Separately, this IMAP4 account did not port over well when I switch over from v1.x to v2.x. So I had to delete the old and create a new account with IMAP4 protocol. And I copy over the messages.tbl and .tbi. However, v2 is not displaying all the messages. How can I get it to display messages in that account? -- Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 2.12.00 Under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
