Re[2]: Closing the Bat after a timeout
Cory, Friday, March 25, 2005, 9:25:27 AM, you wrote: On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:01:32 +0100, Thorvald Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Google* came up with ... Thanks - could have done that myself, of course, but lazy as I am ... :-P (I've got a task scheduled at 12:00 Mo-Fr del /s /q c:\*.tmp d:\*.tmp m:\*.tmp which is -so far- quite effective, but I realize it might delete too much) Perhaps expecting the development team to provide a fix is asking too much?? -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Netsky Virus
Hello Group This may not be the best place to ask but I am banging my head against the wall... I seem to have picked up the Netsky virus ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), despite using the NVidia firewall. Each time I start TB! Norton a/v pops up and says it has found an infected file in my temp folder, NAV then deletes the file. I have scanned the PC (which was freshly built 20 days ago) with NAV, Spybot and Ad-Aware which find nothing. I have also down loaded and used both the F-Prot and Norton versions of the Netsky dis-infector. If it comes to it I will re-install XP, but I was trying to hold off until XP64 is released. Can anybody tell me the mechanics of TB! starting up that causes this file to be written to the temp folder - I am concerned that my MAPI has been hi-jacked. I did un-delete one version of the file from Norton and looked at it in a text editor, it seems to be classic Netsky, an email addressed to me with an attachment. This machine has not been run without the firewall and I don't click on unexpected attachments so I'm mystified as to how it got through at the moment. Any advice would be much appreciated. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Netsky Virus
Dear Jeff, @27-Mar-2005, 18:14 Jeff Gaines [JG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: ... snip JG Can anybody tell me the mechanics of TB! starting up that causes JG this file to be written to the temp folder - I am concerned that JG my MAPI has been hi-jacked. No such! This is simple. You have an incoming message that is infected. TB is checking mail on startup, downloading messages. Each is downloaded to temp before it is processed and imported. Mrs. Overbearing Nanny (NAV) is pouncing on the infected file before TB can handle it and NAV is removing it without any consideration. TB forlornly looks around for the file it was processing, sniffs a couple of times and collapses in a sobbing heap at the loss of the inbound data. Because Nanny has stopped TB from importing the message, it remains unprocessed and un-downloaded. And thus, the next time you run TB, the same dance is performed. Your choices are: 1) Use the message dispatcher in TB to remove the infected message from the server. 2) Retire nanny for a less overbearing and more effective product like AVG or Kaspersky or NOD. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.9.10 Return on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpzedipKbHeS.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Netsky Virus
Hello Jeff Gaines everyone else, on 27-Mrz-2005 at 19:14 you (Jeff Gaines) wrote: I have scanned the PC (which was freshly built 20 days ago) with NAV, Spybot and Ad-Aware which find nothing. I have also down loaded and used both the F-Prot and Norton versions of the Netsky dis-infector. I'd say that you do not have an infected computer. Its just that NAV deletes the temporary file before TheBat can put it into its message base. Thus, TheBat thinks something went wrong and does NOT delete the file from the server, and you end up downloading the same message over and over again (and each time TB tries to access the tempfile, NAV pops in and catches it). You should open the mail dispatcher (menu Account | Dispatch mail on server) and delete the offending message from the server. Since TB is not vulnerable to any virus (as long as you are aware that you should NOT click on a malicious attachment and actually run it, ahem *gg*), you can safely exclude TB's temporary directory (on an XP system, this would be somewhere in C:\Documents and Settings\user\Application Data\Temp, but I'm not sure...) from NAV's realtime scanner so you won't run into the same problem over and over again. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The product of mental labor-science always stands far below it's value, because the labor-time neccessary to reproduce it has no relation at all to the labor-time required for it's original production. -- Karl Marx Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
pi
Mic- Saturday, March 26, 2005, 3:21:35 PM, you wrote: MC Don't believe everything you hear... MC http://www.snopes.com/religion/pi.htm Embarassed that I didn't check with snopes first Yes, it was actually Indiana, not Kansas: http://www.ccsn.nevada.edu/math/pi/ http://db.uwaterloo.ca/~alopez-o/math-faq/node45.html -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Leave Messages on Server
Hello TBUDL, I have several accounts that I download in several places. They are POP accounts and I need to be able to read any given message on any of the machines at various times. To accomplish this I have set the option to leave messages on server on all the machines and have also checked Keep Messages on Server for 21 days on one of the machines. My theory here is that I would be able to download a given message on any of the machines for 21 days from the time I downloaded that message on the 21 day machine. After 21 days I had assumed the message would be deleted from the server. This appears not to be happening as I have messages dating back to January still on the server. Is my thinking wrong or is an error in The Bat execution? -- Best regards, Stuart mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.9.10 Return on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Leave Messages on Server
Hi Stuart, The original quoted text below was written on 27/03/2005 19:08 my local time; Is my thinking wrong or is an error in The Bat execution? Sorry to sound stupid, or stating the obvious, but what about IMAP? -- Chris Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Netsky Virus
Hello Group On Sunday, March 27, 2005, 6:36:26 PM, Alexander wrote: I'd say that you do not have an infected computer. Its just that NAV deletes the temporary file before TheBat can put it into its message base. Thus, TheBat thinks something went wrong and does NOT delete the file from the server, and you end up downloading the same message over and over again (and each time TB tries to access the tempfile, NAV pops in and catches it). You should open the mail dispatcher (menu Account | Dispatch mail on server) and delete the offending message from the server. Alexander/Marck Many thanks, as you said the message was sitting on the server so I went in via web mail and deleted it :-) I have a new hosting company for my email and its virus checking doesn't seem to be very effective yet :-( I do try and practice safe hex and I was a bit concerned that something had crept through. Thanks again. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Netsky Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Sun, 27 Mar 2005, @ @ at 18:27:17 +0100, when Marck D Pearlstone wrote: Mrs. Overbearing Nanny (NAV) is pouncing on the infected file before TB can handle it and NAV is removing it without any consideration. TB forlornly looks around for the file it was processing, sniffs a couple of times and collapses in a sobbing heap at the loss of the inbound data. Because Nanny has stopped TB from importing the message, it remains unprocessed and un-downloaded. And thus, the next time you run TB, the same dance is performed. Hee, heee... Marck, you could perhaps write this way a bit more often. It's like a slice of a script for a play (or an animated movie). Thanks for the fun, along with learning. (-: - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://bardo.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 207 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector via Wine... ~~~ For PM please use my full address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFCRwfR9q62QPd3XuIRAlQ6AJ9l55s7QJLYjlP9/l+RBXHBlyVQngCfQxe4 ga883uUDtfW77DEvlH/vTyM= =xIHh -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How to set orders for displaying messages for each account?
Saturday, March 26, 2005, MFPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi On Friday 25 March 2005 at 1:17:51 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But the problem now is when I change the display/listing order in one folder (under folder properties), it changes the default order and applies to ALL accounts/folders. Have you a Global View Mode set? (see View menu in main TB! window) I have a black dot next to Generic ViewMode -- Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 2.12.00 Under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How to set orders for displaying messages for each account?
Friday, March 25, 2005, Alexander S. Kunz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED] everyone else, on 25-Mrz-2005 at 02:17 you ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: So, my question is how to set a different order of display for some folders WITHOUT changing the default order for ALL accounts? And is it possible to change the order for all folders in a particular account? Or do I have to do it for each folder in the account? Check into the Viewmodes feature of TB. You can set up a number of viewmodes for the different sort options and then apply that viewmode to the folders where you need it. I finally find the Viewmode feature under Right-Clicking the Column Heading of the Message List. I get into Manage ViewMode, create a new viewmode to sort by Subject. And then click of Used By and check two folders. When I go to those 2 folders, the display order does not change -- it is still sorted by Date (Generic View Mode). And when I look under the Folder properties of those 2 folders, it shows that it is set to the new view mode (by Subject). So, what am I doing wrong? I am new to v2. Please be verbose in your response. -- Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 2.12.00 Under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Leave Messages on Server
Hello Chris, Sunday, March 27, 2005, 12:22:19 PM, you wrote: Is my thinking wrong or is an error in The Bat execution? CW Sorry to sound stupid, or stating the obvious, but what about IMAP? I'd love to but my ISP only allows IMAP for business users. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: How to set orders for displaying messages for each account?
Hello z5worg, Sunday, March 27, 2005, 8:50:57 PM, you wrote: zzc I get into Manage ViewMode, create a new viewmode to sort by Subject. zzc And then click of Used By and check two folders. When I go to those 2 zzc folders, the display order does not change -- it is still sorted by Date zzc (Generic View Mode). And when I look under the Folder properties of zzc those 2 folders, it shows that it is set to the new view mode (by zzc Subject). So, what am I doing wrong? zzc I am new to v2. Please be verbose in your response. Make sure that View/Global Viewmode is set to (No Viewmode). I really wish they would do away with this thing as this causes more trouble than it is worth. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: IMAP4 Configuration
Friday, March 25, 2005, Allie Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED], On 24/3/2005 8:34 PM -0500, you wrote: .. 1. First I need to know how to move the messages from the server to my PC. How do I do that? Make a local folder, i.e., a common folder or a folder in a TB! POP account. Select all the messages in the IMAP account, then drag and drop them to the local folders. IMAP4 a/c has the Inbox, Outbox, etc. Does those count? Anyway, How do I see the messages on the server so that I can select them and drag drop??? When I click on Get new mail (or Connect to Server), I get the Connection Center; but no activity, no messsages, no downloading. Then it time out. [I logged onto its webmail; and there are a few messages there.] In Manage IMAP Folders, for the Inbox, I have a check mark in Subscribe; and do not synchronize. I still don't know how to get to see the messages on the server. Sometimes this doesn't go smoothly and exporting the IMAP messages to file and then importing them to the local folders makes the better option. 2. What is the filter for all messages -- *.* ?? And I guess I delete the messages under the Action tab? You could create a filter that matches 'e' in the headers. This will catch all messages. Have the message moved to the local folder and then deleted. 3. Then how to set a filter for further filtering the incoming messages to other folders/accounts? Or is #2 and #3 are just one filter? You need a separate filter for each destination account and folder in which case, you'd need to be more selective with your string matching. The Bat created the default folders when the account was created. And I added a few. Must the folders in TheBat match exactly with the folders on the server? [I really don't want these other folders on the server -- even if they are all empty.] Once you create a folder in TB! for your IMAP account, you've created one on the server. Right click the IMAP account and select 'Manage IMAP folders', or just hit Alt-F7. There you'll see all folders on the server. If you create a folder in TB!, you've created the same folder on the server and autosubscribed to it. Separately, this IMAP4 account did not port over well when I switch over from v1.x to v2.x. So I had to delete the old and create a new account with IMAP4 protocol. And I copy over the messages.tbl and .tbi. However, v2 is not displaying all the messages. How can I get it to display messages in that account? I'm not sure about that. Try the 'Manage IMAP folders' to see what's on the server and subscribe to all the folders that are there. -- Thanks in advance Using The Bat! 2.12.00 Under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: How to set orders for displaying messages for each account?
Sunday, March 27, 2005, Stuart Cuddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello z5worg, Sunday, March 27, 2005, 8:50:57 PM, you wrote: zzc I get into Manage ViewMode, create a new viewmode to sort by Subject. zzc And then click of Used By and check two folders. When I go to those 2 zzc folders, the display order does not change -- it is still sorted by Date zzc (Generic View Mode). And when I look under the Folder properties of zzc those 2 folders, it shows that it is set to the new view mode (by zzc Subject). So, what am I doing wrong? zzc I am new to v2. Please be verbose in your response. Make sure that View/Global Viewmode is set to (No Viewmode). That does it. Thanks. I really wish they would do away with this thing as this causes more trouble than it is worth. -- Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 2.12.00 Under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
